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Bucs will consider four former NFL coaches

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Jon Gruden founded the Fired Football Coaches Association in Tampa.  The group’s first convention could be held there soon.

Chris Mortensen of ESPN reports that the Bucs have their eyes on multiple former NFL coaches, including former Browns, Chiefs, Redskins and Chargers coach Marty Schottenheimer, former Broncos, Bills, and Cowboys coach Wade Phillips, and former Vikings coach Brad Childress.

On Saturday, Peter King flagged another former NFL coach on the Bucs’ list:  former Packers and Texas A&M coach Mike Sherman.  (He’s on Mort’s list, too.)

Mort reports that Bengals defensive coordinator Mike Zimmer also is a candidate, even though he’s never been an NFL head coach.

For the Bucs, who tried three years ago to find the next big thing by promoting an assistant, it makes sense to consider hiring a guy who has coached an NFL team in the past.  But how many coaches who have been fired once (or more) are ever highly successful in a future NFL gig?  As pointed out last week on PFT Live, only five previously-fired NFL coaches have won Super Bowls:  Weeb Ewbank, Mike Shanahan, Bill Belichick, Tony Dungy, and Tom Coughlin.

For the Bucs, however, the immediate challenge isn’t to win another Super Bowl.  It’s to get the franchise back on track, and to cover some of those empty red seats with rear ends.

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  1. joetoronto says: Jan 8, 2012 12:06 PM

    They’ll consider the 4 and then hire the cheapest.

  2. tjacks7 says: Jan 8, 2012 12:06 PM

    If they hire Brad Childress, they will wish they never fired Morris. He will set that franchise back a decade.

  3. yelix says: Jan 8, 2012 12:06 PM

    Marty may be 68, but he would find a way to win some games with that team. Wouldn’t get far in the playoffs, but he’d lead them in the right direction before retiring. He’s never been unsuccessful in that regard. His Redskins probably would’ve made the playoffs if Snyder hadn’t canned him after a year.

  4. garyman1 says: Jan 8, 2012 12:08 PM

    PLEASE hire Chilly…. just for the entertainment value.

  5. locutus says: Jan 8, 2012 12:08 PM

    Childress? Hahahahaha

    Good luck with that Bucs!

  6. firstand4ever says: Jan 8, 2012 12:09 PM

    It’s real cool to see that Marty Schottenhiemer and Wade Phillips are receiving consideration.

    If Tampa is going to go with the experienced route, Than a coach like Brian Billick should be considered.

    From a young assistant standpoint, If I were Tampa. I would target Rob Chudzinski from Carolina(see work with Newton) and Tom Clements from Green Bay. Carmichael from the Saints should also get an interview. In the case of Carmichael and Chudzinski, You’d be effecting your division rivals and gaining valuable intel on them.

  7. thatobnoxiousguy says: Jan 8, 2012 12:11 PM

    Marty Schottenheimer will turn that team around. The guy made Cleveland respectable(that alone should get him in the HOF) he built the terrible Chiefs into consistent winners and playoff contenders without a topflight QB, he built the Chargers into Super Bowl contenders, and was 8-8 with a Dan Snyder owned team!!!

    Tampa would be a perrienial contender within 3 years with Marty running things.

  8. boknowsvt says: Jan 8, 2012 12:12 PM

    If they hire Marty, it means they are content with making the playoffs but never actually winning a game. If they go with Phillips, it means they’re content with a doormat who can’t win period. If they go with Chilly, it means they’d be better off in the 1:00 Mon-Fri time slot on NBC with the other soap operas.

  9. buckeye1nation says: Jan 8, 2012 12:12 PM

    I absolutely HATE all the former coaches on that list, including Sherman and especially Phillips. Why not go after Brian Billick? this guy could make an immediate impact and energize the fan base and players. The guys on that list..not so much..

  10. brunnerjam says: Jan 8, 2012 12:12 PM

    I would like to see Marty back, he’s a quality NFL head coach.

  11. humptyfratz says: Jan 8, 2012 12:14 PM

    If I’m in the NFC South, the LAST person I want to see is Marty Schottenheimer. Sure, he gets a bad rap in the national media for his playoff record, but he will win division titles and generally make life hell for the Falcons, Panthers & Saints.

    But this is the Glazers…welcome to the NFC South, Brad Childress!

  12. soumiss says: Jan 8, 2012 12:14 PM

    I think that Mike Zimmer would be an outstanding choice for the Bucs. He is a very good coach who deserves a chance to be a Head Coach.

  13. Lev says: Jan 8, 2012 12:15 PM

    Stay away from Chudzinski!!

    Signed,
    Carolina Panthers fan base (yes, there is one)
    :)

  14. waldoampere says: Jan 8, 2012 12:18 PM

    They’re kidding right?

  15. maltdawg says: Jan 8, 2012 12:20 PM

    Huh?? Its one thing to bring in a bunch of retreads but you can’t be serious….Brad Childress and Wade Phillips?? As a life-long Buccaneer fan this is extremely disheartening!! Both those guys caved under pressure and lost their respective locker rooms….Thanks for ruining my Sunday…..
    Whats next “Booby” Myles at running back next year!!!

  16. hillbillyheavenbbq says: Jan 8, 2012 12:21 PM

    Oh good god….

    I am a life-long Bucs fan and I don’t think this can get any more ridiculous. Chilly? Wade?

    Given that group, it’s Marty all the way

  17. bunjy96 says: Jan 8, 2012 12:22 PM

    Why are teams that are looking for new HC shying away from Billick?

  18. thingamajig says: Jan 8, 2012 12:23 PM

    How many chances does Wade Phillips get before the NFL realizes he’s a great DC but a lousy HC?

  19. brenenostler says: Jan 8, 2012 12:23 PM

    I would hate for Brad Childress to be my head coach. They should pick Marty Schottenheimer.

  20. anactualnflowner says: Jan 8, 2012 12:24 PM

    Interviewing 4 coaches who have proven they can’t get it done in the NFL…. Sounds like they are trying to change the culture of losing around there. Either that or jumping on the fast track to LA…

  21. wtfru2 says: Jan 8, 2012 12:25 PM

    joetoronto

    If they want cheap, they can take Chilly. He could work for free cause he’s still sucking 6 million from the Wilfs next year…..

  22. hoopjack says: Jan 8, 2012 12:26 PM

    I think Marty Schottenhiemer would be great in Tampa.
    You can’t argue with 2 losing seasons in 20 years, 13 playoff appearances, and 8 division titles.

    Only knock is his post season record 5-13, but if he would of found a way to win just one Super Bowl, He would be considered one of the greatest coaches ever.
    I still think he is.

  23. ccrink says: Jan 8, 2012 12:30 PM

    Foundation is set with young under performing D-line, potential franchise qb, an enigma at RB. Hire Mike Zimmer now. Will produce a top 10 d in 1 year. Hire top notch O coordinator, and the Bucs will be relevant again. He might even convince Mike Alstott to return as rb coach.

  24. snccoach says: Jan 8, 2012 12:30 PM

    This is ridiculous. The Glazers have the ability and money to make a home run hire, and these are the candidates? I like Schottenheimer but his age is a concern. Phillips has proved he’s a great coordinator but not head coach material at two franchises, Sherman is average and considering Childress is laughable.

    My first option would be to make a serious run at Dungy to become Head Coach/Executive VP of Football Ops. Secondary options could be Zimmer (Bengals), Moss (Packers),Toub (Bears), Grimm (Cardinals) or Brian Schottenheimer with dad Marty on staff.

  25. letsgosharks says: Jan 8, 2012 12:34 PM

    Wade Phillips?Seriously?Hasnt the league learned anything yet?Might as well speak with the bolts about getting permission to interview Norv while you’re at it.

  26. marcuswelby70 says: Jan 8, 2012 12:39 PM

    firstand4ever says:
    Jan 8, 2012 12:09 PM
    It’s real cool to see that Marty Schottenhiemer and Wade Phillips are receiving consideration.

    If Tampa is going to go with the experienced route, Than a coach like Brian Billick should be considered.

    From a young assistant standpoint, If I were Tampa. I would target Rob Chudzinski from Carolina(see work with Newton) and Tom Clements from Green Bay. Carmichael from the Saints should also get an interview. In the case of Carmichael and Chudzinski, You’d be effecting your division rivals and gaining valuable intel on them.
    ——————————————

    The Bucs are thinking young and cheap…Billick is neither, just ask him he’ll tell you.

  27. thingamajig says: Jan 8, 2012 12:41 PM

    If the Bucs are looking for the bottom of the barrel I think they might be getting mighty close.

  28. tampajoey says: Jan 8, 2012 12:50 PM

    None of these guys are going to put Bucs fans in stadium seats.

  29. tombradyspoop says: Jan 8, 2012 12:52 PM

    Mike Zimmer would be a great fit for the Bucs!

  30. buckeye1nation says: Jan 8, 2012 1:00 PM

    @snccoach..Are you kidding me with DUNGY? What has he proven? I’m guessing you think Gruden won with Dungy’s players right? If that is the case what did Tony do? I don’t get this fascination with him as a coach.

  31. milkmandanimal says: Jan 8, 2012 1:01 PM

    Childress? Childress?

    NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO.

    There are not enough digital “O’s” available on the entire internet for me to state how much of a NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO this is.

  32. bmue42 says: Jan 8, 2012 1:03 PM

    i cant believe their considering any of those guys, all seem so horrible

  33. lancevine says: Jan 8, 2012 1:07 PM

    You guys missed one second chance coach that won a Super Bowl…I think his name was something like, um, uh…DON SHULA

  34. mattolikesthevikes says: Jan 8, 2012 1:15 PM

    I wonder if Childress would bring his “kick ass offense” to Tampa. What a joke!!!! That thing was pedestrian at best until Favre showed him how it’s done.

  35. backindasaddle says: Jan 8, 2012 1:16 PM

    Marty Schottenheimer: The game has passed him by. Marty….just retire.

    Wade Phillips: You’re a defensive coordinator. You do well at that. You are not a head coach. The total collapse of your Dallas Cowboys was a direct reflection that you had lost the team. You are not a head coach and you should remain a defensive coordinator.

    Brad Childress: Loser.

  36. hscorpio says: Jan 8, 2012 1:21 PM

    Why no love for Brian Billick among the ex-HC crowd? I’d take him over those other guys any day. Especially Chilly. He’s horrible.

  37. snccoach says: Jan 8, 2012 1:25 PM

    @buckeye1nation, no i’m not kidding. He’s a Tampa resident now and he truly loves that community. Don’t think the Glazer’s aren’t contemplating it either. They need stability back in the franchise and butts back in Raymond James. What has he proven? He’s a proven winner with two franchises and has won a SB as well. Or was that Jim Mora’s team?

    Truth be told I liked Gruden as a coach more than Dungy, but I despised him as a person. He’s shady and that was his downfall. Gruden did win with his players, HOWEVER, you can make the case that Bill Callahan won with Gruden’s. Either way Gruden was a Super Bowl caliber winning coach.

  38. rohlo says: Jan 8, 2012 1:26 PM

    schottenheimer is what this team needs right now..he knows how to turn teams around,he turned the chiefs around, and the chargers!!! he gets them to a point where they are playoff caliber but cant get over the hump.but if he then retires the team will be set for a new coach to come in and succeed.. his motto is i like to leaves things better when i leave than they were when i arrived which is a good thing.

  39. brooks07 says: Jan 8, 2012 1:26 PM

    As a Bucs fan, I love the Marty idea and could go along with the Zimmer option, but can’t see why Childress would merit a look from any organization as HC. He was awful in Minnesota and lost the players early on.

    Let’s go Martyball!

  40. ruggyup says: Jan 8, 2012 1:29 PM

    More ideas in these comments than the Glazers have had during their entire ownership era. Even the bad ideas are better than Glazers none. Not to worry they will find the ideal guy, cheap with significant correctional facility experience.

  41. bleed4philly says: Jan 8, 2012 1:31 PM

    I like Marty, his post season hasn’t been good but he was being asked to beat Brady and manning in their primes just to get to the superbowl. He deserves another shot.

  42. Xenu D. Alien says: Jan 8, 2012 1:33 PM

    Wade Phillips? He’s a 3-4 guy and the Bucs just spent 2 1st round and 2 2nd round picks on 4-3 defensive lineman. He’s too soft, anyway.

    Martyball is pretty much what got Dungy fired, what’s the point?

    Chilly is worthless.

    Sherman or Zimmer at least don’t sound terrible.

  43. bensstinkyfingers says: Jan 8, 2012 1:42 PM

    Hey I want Chilly in Cleveland as our O.C. he has the same agent as Holmgren, Heckert, Shurmur, so considering the pattern of nepotism here, then this will probably happen.

  44. satanicxhellxcreature says: Jan 8, 2012 1:46 PM

    @wtfru2

    If they hire Childress, the Wilfs no longer have to pay any more of his contract.

    To the Glazers, there is no need to interview Childress. Being mentally handicapped is not a minority, and because of this it doesn’t help fufill your Rooney rule requirements.

  45. pbm984 says: Jan 8, 2012 1:56 PM

    Do you think the Bucs intentionally set out to put together the least exciting pool of HC candidates in the history of football, or was that just sheer happenstance?

    Seriously though, the Bucs are making it known that they want to boost attendance and stop making their annual trek across the pond. Why in the hell wouldn’t they try to make a splash with this hire, whether it be a well regarded retred (see- Jeff Fisher, Bill Cowher or Dick Jauron) or an exciting up and comer. I don’t get the Glazers

  46. wherezwaldo says: Jan 8, 2012 1:58 PM

    all this talk about Billick, what about Steve Mariucci?

  47. kingpel says: Jan 8, 2012 2:34 PM

    Ok, as someone who has been standing on the rooftop calling for Raheem Morris’ head I look at this list of coaching candidates and am not excited.

    Except for Marty Schottenheimer. This man is a class act and if he has the desire to get this franchise back on track, I believe he is the man for the job. I think with Brian as the OC, this will give the Bucs a good opportunity to develop some consistency. Their a young team so I imagine they may be a couple years away, but this hire will get them back on track.

    Plus I really want Marty to stick it to AJ Smith and the Chargers. They screwed him.

  48. texanfan62 says: Jan 8, 2012 2:39 PM

    If the Bucs hire Wade Phillips, which I doubt they will(they should hire Either Mike Sherman or Mike Zimmer) the Texans should hire Mike Nolan for Defensive Coordinator.He runs a 3-4 Scheme.

  49. ronswansonsdinner says: Jan 8, 2012 2:42 PM

    I’d be furious if the Bucs hired Childress or Phillips. Would be lukewarm on Sherman and Zimmer.

    If the Bucs were ran properly, they would hire Marty and have him bring in his son as OC and then when Marty retires, Brian can take over. #Schottytakeover.

  50. kingpel says: Jan 8, 2012 2:56 PM

    @ ronswansonsdinner:

    I agree with you. Marty retires and Brian takes the reigns. Maybe the Schottenheimers can be the new McKays for football fans in the Bay area.

    Hell, I bet Marty would even help Dominik develop as a general manager. He could help stabilize this organization from top to bottom.

  51. rajbais says: Jan 8, 2012 3:19 PM

    Plus, Zimmer wouldn’t rub the Tampa people the right way!!!

    Why??? Because 80% of that area consists of everyone above age 75!!!

  52. sungateman says: Jan 8, 2012 3:22 PM

    I truly have tried not to buy into the cheapness of the Glazer’s, but I am going to have to change my mind. For them not to have Brian Billick named in the list has to be because of $$. He’s the best former NFL coach available, and is heads above any of the others!!!

  53. deadmanwalking47 says: Jan 8, 2012 3:43 PM

    they ought to give zimmer a shot at it.

  54. wink1010 says: Jan 8, 2012 3:56 PM

    Love him or hate him; there is no one better than Brian Billick to get a so-called organization organized. Seriously, he has a corporate style that remains unmatched at the NFL level. Ravens would not have made it to the Super Bowl w/o his organizational skills.

    Still, it was time for the Ravens to move forward w/o him. If anyone has learned to be an even better HC during his down-time it is Brian Billick. As a fan of the NFL, I would love to see him get another opportunity to see what he can do. I am willing to bet that he would make an impressive encore…

    Steve

  55. mystereo says: Jan 8, 2012 3:59 PM

    Marty Schottenheimer. The rest are career coordinators.

  56. justrunit11 says: Jan 8, 2012 4:06 PM

    With the number.5 overall pick brad childress selects russell wilson university of wisconsin

  57. mrthirtytwo says: Jan 8, 2012 4:25 PM

    Marty Schottenheimer is currently a coaching the UFL for the Virginia Destroyers.

    The UFL had a shortened season this year due to going all in on an NFL lockout.

    Will be interesting to see if he is really available.

  58. kbraden24 says: Jan 8, 2012 4:42 PM

    Why really change this up…the NFL is all about passing and the spread offense, so CHIP KELLY from Oregon, draft RG III, trade Josh for a second rounder, and load up on offensive skill position players. I know….too much much money to spend for Joel & Brian. Sell Wayne Rooney!!!

  59. eegwaybeegway says: Jan 8, 2012 4:48 PM

    If both sides can come to an arrangement, bringing in Chili would be a fantastic move by the Bucs. He had a modicum of success in Minnesota and so let the Vikings loss be the Bucs gain. Get it done.

  60. MichaelEdits says: Jan 8, 2012 4:53 PM

    Childress? Seriously?

    So for the Rooney Rule, will they interview Art Shell, Ray Rhodes, or Dennis Green? Or beg Dungy to come back?

  61. grannyvi4 says: Jan 9, 2012 2:01 AM

    Childress? CHILDRESS????? I can’t believe he’s being seriously considered by anyone after the havoc he caused here in Minny. Horrible HC, just horrible.

    Bucs fans, you have my sympathy.

  62. theytukrjobs says: Jan 9, 2012 11:20 PM

    I thought Childress was terrible until he left and the Vikings got way worse. He’d be cheap and you know what you are getting with him. As long as you cover his weaknesses he isn’t as bad as what they’ve had.

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