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McDaniels may run scout team offense to help Patriots’ D prepare

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The Patriots’ decision to bring former Broncos head coach Josh McDaniels back onto their coaching staff immediately — rather than wait until the postseason is over — could pay major dividends this week.

As the man who drafted Tim Tebow and coached him during his rookie year, McDaniels knows Tebow well. And it’s an added bonus for the Patriots that the day they officially brought him back to their coaching staff was the day that Tebow and Co. punched a ticket to New England for the second round of the playoffs.

How hands-on will McDaniels get in helping the Patriots prepare for Tebow? Ed Werder reported on SportsCenter that McDaniels may run the scout team in New England this week to help the Patriots’ defense prepare for the Broncos.

The 35-year-old McDaniels, who played quarterback in high school and receiver in college at John Carroll University, isn’t Tebow’s physical equal by any stretch of the imagination, so it’s not like he can get under center and do all the things that Tebow does in the Broncos’ offense to help the Patriots’ defense get ready. According to ESPN’s Mike Reiss, Julian Edelman played the scout-team quarterback when the Patriots prepared for the Broncos’ option package during the regular season, and Ryan Mallett played scout-team quarterback for passing situations. McDaniels can’t do the things physically that those guys can do, so Edelman and Mallett will likely have some scout-team responsibilities this week.

And the presence of McDaniels does not provide the same advantage that the Buccaneers exploited when coach Jon Gruden led them to a Super Bowl XXXVII win over his former team, the Raiders. In preparing for that game, Gruden ran the scout team offense and gave the Raiders’ defense a great look at what the Raiders would do. But the Raiders were still running Gruden’s old offensive system at the time. Broncos head coach John Fox and offensive coordinator Mike McCoy run a completely different offense than McDaniels ran in Denver last season.

Still, McDaniels may have some insight into Tebow’s tendencies. NFL teams preparing for playoff games will always seek even the slightest edge over their opponents, and the edge McDaniels can give the Patriots may be more than slight.

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54 Responses to “McDaniels may run scout team offense to help Patriots’ D prepare”
  1. coolgato13 says: Jan 9, 2012 1:50 PM

    McDaniels helping the Pats in the playoffs is so wrong on so many levels. You can`t trade for a player to help you in the playoffs!!!!!

  2. benh999 says: Jan 9, 2012 1:51 PM

    Come on. McDaniels’ familiarity with Tebow is irrelevant. The Patriots played the Broncos already and have tons of film to watch. Any secret achilles heel of Tebow’s has likely been corrected in the past year since McDaniels left the team anyway.

  3. test2402 says: Jan 9, 2012 1:54 PM

    This guy misses Tim Tebow.

  4. cowhawkfan says: Jan 9, 2012 1:55 PM

    Not sure how much this really helps. All teams have advance scouts and watch film so they usually have a pretty good idea what another player can do. McD’s biggest contribution may just be the fact he drafted Tebow because he believed in him. He may just be able to say, Tebow is real, so don’t underestimate him” and get the Pats D to listen, unlike Pitt. If course, NE didn’t seem to have that problem in game 1. Watching what Denver did to Pitt doesn’t hurt either.

  5. claymatthewsisonsteroids says: Jan 9, 2012 1:56 PM

    He should stick to the scout team.

  6. ewjjrj says: Jan 9, 2012 1:56 PM

    And que the ignorant “cheaters” comments in 3…2..1..

  7. cowhawkfan says: Jan 9, 2012 1:57 PM

    I’m betting on a fairly close game. Broncos will perfo better on both sides of the ball this time around. Hard to go against Brady though. He’s the best not just for his physical talents, but he always sea prepared and gives the other team respect. As much as I’d like to hate on the guy, I can’t.

  8. hystoracle says: Jan 9, 2012 2:01 PM

    McDaniels wasn’t there when they completely changed the offense this season to make Tebow successful. How much help would he provide running the scout team? Sounds like a ESPN hype story.

  9. pacificamjr says: Jan 9, 2012 2:01 PM

    gotta respect the JCU blue streaks!
    Don Shula
    London Fletcher
    Josh McDaniels

    RESPECT the jesuits!

  10. robmac33 says: Jan 9, 2012 2:01 PM

    McDaniels’ impact on this game will be minumul. The press is making more of this than is necessary. Just more vile Pats hatred being trumped up.

  11. objectivenflfan says: Jan 9, 2012 2:03 PM

    The McDaniel’s Broncos and Fox Bronco’s are apples and oranges. Same players, different coaches. Yes, McDaniel’s and current Bronco OC Mike McCoy designed packages for Tebow, some used this year – but the offense evolved and I’m sure Denver will have plenty of new plays.

    I still don’t know who wins this game – it’d be easy to say the Pats in a blowout, but wasn’t that supposed to happen to the Broncos yesterday?

    Sometimes one play can swing momentum for weeks at a time.

  12. rc33 says: Jan 9, 2012 2:05 PM

    It’s always irrelevant.
    I recall Jets fans going off the deep end when they picked up former Pats 3rd round pick Kevin O’Connell after he was waived a couple years ago.

    “…giving us insight into what Brady and the Patriots are doing.”
    Uh….OK.

    They even went so far as to have him, their 3rd string QB, go out for the coin flip against N.E. his first week in New York.
    Yeah, that’ll show ‘em!
    Rex is a simpleton.

  13. miamisaint3255 says: Jan 9, 2012 2:05 PM

    sure, he is going to put on pads and QB the scout team. I bet…

  14. crw37 says: Jan 9, 2012 2:06 PM

    1. This whole McDaniels thing started before the Patriots had any idea that they’d be playing Denver.

    2. The Cowboys did this a few years ago, and nobody had a problem.

    3. They didn’t “steal” him from St. Louis. They asked permission to speak with him, and when it became clear the Pats were interested, the Rams said they’d let him out of his contract.

    4. The NFL has confirmed that this isn’t against any rules and that the Patriots did nothing wrong.

    People are overreacting to this. Grow up.

  15. ampats says: Jan 9, 2012 2:06 PM

    McDaniels back to New England was a done deal before the playoff games began. This has nothing to do with playing Denver and what additional insight he will be able to provide. I must admit it is rather ironic that the two key players that won the game for Denver were drafted by McD in the 1st round LY who Bronco fans ran out of Denver.

    It was only three weeks ago the Broncos were torched by Brady and the Pats at Mile High or whatever corporate name they use now.

  16. sry4partyr0ckin says: Jan 9, 2012 2:08 PM

    And that will be the excuse if they win. “mcdaniels cheated and gave tebows plays away” muhahahahahaha

  17. skipbayless says: Jan 9, 2012 2:10 PM

    Now what if Tebow pulls out another victory this weekend?

  18. jmsincla says: Jan 9, 2012 2:11 PM

    If that’s the case I look for Denver to win. Everything this guy touches goes up in flames.

  19. mecheng04 says: Jan 9, 2012 2:12 PM

    Much ado about nothing…and I’m a Broncos fan. Tebow didn’t play (with the exception of some “Tebow package” plays) until after McD was fired and the offense is completely different.

  20. polegojim says: Jan 9, 2012 2:15 PM

    Wow – I’m seriously torn.

    Tom Brady is my ‘Michigan Man’ and the reason the Pats are my second team……. next to the Lions.

    ….. but to see Tebow and the Bronco’s BEAT a McDaniel’s coached… and esp a McDaniels PREP’d team would be VERY hard to pass up.

    Is there any way the Bronco’s could beat McDaniels but still have the Pats win the Super Bowl?

  21. theshakeweight says: Jan 9, 2012 2:17 PM

    Leave it to Belichek to work the system to his advantage, he is a genius…I’m guessing Goodell add a new rule to not allow this in the future.

  22. steellady says: Jan 9, 2012 2:18 PM

    Sure does make them ALL look like asses…they spent countless hours ,days n months rediculing one another in every news media at their disposal..now they hire him back? LMAO Yea ok nothing fishy there.

  23. trh33 says: Jan 9, 2012 2:20 PM

    Coolgato13
    The Pats didnt trade for McDaniel’s they signed him. Just like they can sign a free agent player. Saying that it is wrong on so many levels does not make any sense. At the time that they signed him they didnt even know Denver would be coming to NE.

    Now if only Houston can pull a Tebow on Baltimore this week..

    GO PATS!

  24. purpleisreallypinkyouknow says: Jan 9, 2012 2:20 PM

    objectivenflfan says:Jan 9, 2012 2:03 PM

    The McDaniel’s Broncos and Fox Bronco’s are apples and oranges. Same players, different coaches. Yes, McDaniel’s and current Bronco OC Mike McCoy designed packages for Tebow, some used this year – but the offense evolved and I’m sure Denver will have plenty of new plays.

    I still don’t know who wins this game – it’d be easy to say the Pats in a blowout, but wasn’t that supposed to happen to the Broncos yesterday?
    __________________________________

    If the Donkeys can topple that Pittsburgh defense, they surely can compete with that shady defense in Foxboro. Broncos have a pretty tough D themselves.

    I see a pretty good game this weekend….and wouldn’t be all that surprised to see a Broncos win.

    This may very well be the greatest pro football weekend in a decade when you look at the 4 matchups that are coming up.

  25. phreakin says: Jan 9, 2012 2:22 PM

    “And que the ignorant “cheaters” comments in 3…2..1..”

    Pro tip, if you are going to call someone ignorant then please know how to spell queue, not que. This isn’t Spain 101.

  26. habsman says: Jan 9, 2012 2:39 PM

    Just another example of the Patriots playing chess while the rest of the league plays checkers.

    Three shiney untainted Lombardi’s and a good shot at number four.

    What are you going to do about it?

  27. jtchernak says: Jan 9, 2012 2:39 PM

    The broncos paper wrote this was cheating by Bellicheck like morons and only added motivation for the patriots

  28. tedmurph says: Jan 9, 2012 2:40 PM

    I think this is bigger than most of you think. Remember when Gruden ran the scout team for TBay before the SB and demonstrated all Gannon’s tendencies with pump fakes, preferences etc. I think Gannon threw 4 picks and TBay smoked them. Coaches knowledge of players is huge. Parcells did it w/Jets too, after he left NE.

  29. bleedgreen11 says: Jan 9, 2012 2:43 PM

    does anyone know of any other football related sites? Ones where they have actual reporters posting the articles and not amateur bloggers who can’t be bothered taking 1 minute to proofread…

  30. bullcharger says: Jan 9, 2012 2:48 PM

    McDaniels is irrelevant from a Denver playbook standpoint. The whole offense was catered to Tebow after McDaniels left. He may be able to help with player tendencies, but mostly he’ll be helpful if the Patriots win as he game planned for BAL, GB, SF, NO and NYG this year and managed to beat NO.

  31. pacificnw7722 says: Jan 9, 2012 2:51 PM

    John “Crazy Like A” Fox will have a much more well crafted plan this time around. Bank on it!

  32. manureman says: Jan 9, 2012 2:51 PM

    Say, before we badmouth the whiz kid keep in mind he drafted that winning TD combo in Denver. Just say thank you and move on.

  33. bozosforall says: Jan 9, 2012 2:53 PM

    phreakin says:
    Jan 9, 2012 2:22 PM
    “And que the ignorant “cheaters” comments in 3…2..1..”

    Pro tip, if you are going to call someone ignorant then please know how to spell queue, not que. This isn’t Spain 101.

    __
    He can’t help it, phreakin…they raise them pretty ignorant up there in New England.

  34. beauregard says: Jan 9, 2012 3:09 PM

    Early reports out of New England show McDaniels has already traded the QB, RB and WR of the scout team for future low round draft picks…..

    Seriously though, first Kyle Orton comes back to haunt Denver and now the face McD. Who’s writing these story lines?

  35. bawston1 says: Jan 9, 2012 3:10 PM

    Stop crying this never happen before: Cowboys, in 2009, hired Paul Pasqualoni in playoffs after Pasqualoni was fired by Dolphins. Similar to McDaniels.

  36. 1historian says: Jan 9, 2012 3:16 PM

    Pats haters, and I know you’re out there in your pathetic profusion: The rich get richer because they are SMARTER.

  37. 1historian says: Jan 9, 2012 3:18 PM

    Tiny Tim’s season ends Saturday

  38. 1historian says: Jan 9, 2012 3:23 PM

    Bozos for all: Re. your 2:53 post.

    Here in New England we know how to spell and we know about context and correct pronunciation and good grammar and we are generous with our knowledge so this one is free: The CORRECT spelling is:

    CUE

    You’re welcome, and you are well-named.

  39. cliverush says: Jan 9, 2012 3:29 PM

    Hatred of others is proof of ignorance. Bozo, that males you King of the Idiots.

  40. randomguy9999 says: Jan 9, 2012 3:34 PM

    McDaniels or not, the Pats are gonna have Denver down on the ground kicking them….. just like last time….

  41. gisellichek says: Jan 9, 2012 3:38 PM

    Pats Roll… seriously… Does anyone really think Tim can beat the Pats in Foxboro… The likely scenario is a rout…

    Prediction: 45-17 Pats…

  42. northshorejag says: Jan 9, 2012 3:52 PM

    The Patriots are a Fraud

    They can’t win without cheating

    The entire BB coaching tree is a failure

    Haven’t won anything since they got caught cheating

    And now they find a another way to cheat

    Dont think BB isn’t on the phone Urban Meyer offering a kidney for anything he can use against Tebow

  43. pastabelly says: Jan 9, 2012 3:58 PM

    The McDaniels hire is for next year. He and Brady are very close and there was nobody left among the offensive coaches who could be the OC. As others have pointed out, the Patriots just played the Broncos three weeks ago and are probably more familiar with what they are trying to do than McDaniels is. This “edge” is overrated. With Billy O’Brien spending some time at PSU, having McDaniels fills some void and maybe give Brady someone to bounce ideas off of. But the McDaniels offense was Moss/Welker and this offense is so geared around the talents of Gronkowski/Hernandez. Branch is now back and the only constants are Brady and Welker. Having McDaniels in Foxboro now will pay off for the team more next year.

  44. gmen1987 says: Jan 9, 2012 4:00 PM

    Patroits haters should be happy that Coach McDumbass is back on staff.

  45. xxpatsxx says: Jan 9, 2012 4:06 PM

    phreakin says:
    Jan 9, 2012 2:22 PM
    “And que the ignorant “cheaters” comments in 3…2..1..”

    Pro tip, if you are going to call someone ignorant then please know how to spell queue, not que. This isn’t Spain 101.

    =========

    The correct word is “Cue”.

    Perhaps you should take “England as a Second Language.”

  46. mataug says: Jan 9, 2012 4:14 PM

    In preparing for that game, Gruden ran the scout team offense and gave the Raiders’ defense a great look at what the Raiders would do.

    Rosenthal, I am willing to proof read your posts for free.

  47. nlucas550 says: Jan 9, 2012 4:27 PM

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    Check it out on the Daily Sports Grind!
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  48. lawyermalloy says: Jan 9, 2012 4:32 PM

    If he actually does run the scout team as it’s QB, one can only hope someone on the defense uses a helmet to helmet hit on him!

  49. enx31 says: Jan 9, 2012 4:38 PM

    “And que the ignorant “cheaters” comments in 3…2..1..”

    Pro tip, if you are going to call someone ignorant then please know how to spell queue, not que. This isn’t Spain 101.

    Pro at what, spelling? ahaha, you sure do know your QQ, give you that. ‘Stop Criiiyngh’

  50. jolink653 says: Jan 9, 2012 4:42 PM

    jmsincla says:
    Jan 9, 2012 2:11 PM
    If that’s the case I look for Denver to win. Everything this guy touches goes up in flames.

    _____________________________________

    Yea just like how the patriots torched the rest of the league and all the old offensive records in 2007 with jmac calling the offensive plays…everyone who says this isn’t a smart move is either ignorant or just in denial…this guy was a great coordinator with the patriots and maybe he did fail in denver but they never gave him a chance to develop tebow before they gave him the boot (look how his picks are turning out now) and let’s be honest the rams have one of the worst if not the worst offensive lines in the league so how can his offense be successful there? bradford was running for his life and he had no big time receivers to work with there outside of half a season of brandon lloyd who by no means is a superstar…just imagine what this offense will look like next season provided welker is signed and ochocinco finally gets a full offseason to work with tom brady along with another year of gronk and hernandez…they have the potential to be a better offense than they were in 2007

  51. pastabelly says: Jan 9, 2012 5:06 PM

    jolink653 says:
    …just imagine what this offense will look like next season provided welker is signed and ochocinco finally gets a full offseason to work with tom brady along with another year of gronk and hernandez…they have the potential to be a better offense than they were in 2007
    *******************************************

    I cannot imagine Ochocinco being on the Patriots next year under any circumstances.

  52. nineroutsider says: Jan 9, 2012 5:24 PM

    I agree with all of you that said this is wrong. It is flat out wrong. Like players, coaches shouldn’t be able to start with a team until all games are done at the very least, or they should have to file for some type of exemption that the league reviews.

    I don’t think this is an example of the Patriots “cheating”, but it is an example of a rule that the league needs to implement to prevent this from happening in the future. The Patriots didn’t hire McDaniels for the Bronco game, he is going to be the OC next year. So stop with that stuff, but I agree…the league needs to prevent this from happening in the future.

    It works out well for the Patriots though, although it’s not like McDaniels knows anything extra special about the Broncos O or Tebow…it is a completely different system.

  53. malcolmsbeard says: Jan 9, 2012 5:33 PM

    In preparing for that game, Gruden ran the scout team offense and gave the Raiders’ defense a great look at what the Raiders would do.

    at least that’s clear. Glad the Raiders defense had a great look at what the Raiders would do while the Bucs were owning them. R.I.P. Al Davis

  54. mikedrake00 says: Jan 10, 2012 9:40 AM

    @ewwjjri u know if u don’t mention it could go away. Your comment is just as lame as the cheaters comments. Unless u want people to comment on it so you can argue about it. Just don’t mention it.

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