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NFL will consider closing the McDaniels Loophole

Bill Belichick, Josh McDaniels AP

Earlier this week, the league didn’t seem to be receptive to the possibility of closing what we’ve called the McDaniels Loophole.

Now, Chris Mortensen of ESPN reports that the NFL will consider whether to prevent coaches who finish a season with one team from joining a team that’s still playing in the postseason.  Nearly 70 percent of you think that the league should prevent this from happening.

So do we.  If player rosters become frozen in place when a team’s season ends, coaches who finish the season with one team shouldn’t be permitted to join a team that is still alive in the playoffs.

Regardless of whether former Rams offensive coordinator Josh McDaniels’ presence on the Patriots’ staff will make a difference for a team that has lost two straight home postseason games without him, the ability of a coach from a non-playoff team to climb aboard the bandwagon of a playoff squad seems unfair.

If you’re not among the 20,000-plus who have made your views on this one known, go ahead and do it now.

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41 Responses to “NFL will consider closing the McDaniels Loophole”
  1. vikescry1 says: Jan 14, 2012 12:16 PM

    actually they shouldn’t even allow coach’s to be interviewed until the season is over. imo all team’s should have to wait even if they fire there coach’s in mid season.

  2. popdawg99 says: Jan 14, 2012 12:16 PM

    Patriots are cheaters.

  3. iambadkid says: Jan 14, 2012 12:26 PM

    new england new england what am i going to do with this team they always win win win win win win win thats all they do why cant teams like tampa bay or atlanta do the samething like new england does sad :(

  4. caseyanthonymunoz says: Jan 14, 2012 12:26 PM

    No changing teams for coaches. But raping girls in bathrooms is apparently still pretty cool in Pittsburgh. Ya can’t outrun karma though, as displayed last week.

  5. red513 says: Jan 14, 2012 12:27 PM

    Team’s rosters are not frozen once the post-season starts. David Binn was signed by the Broncos yesterday because their long snapper did not make the trip to NE for the game. What does a team do if a coach is hurt (Steelers RB coach), has a family emergency (Packers Joe Philbin) or takes another job (O’Brien) during the playoffs? It would be crazy to tell a team they couldn’t add a coach after the playoffs start when there are so many situations that could come up where a team might need to add a coach. Like it or not, McDaniels was basically a free agent because the Rams released him from his contract, making him free like any player to sign with a team. I hate the Pats like many others do, but to deny a team the right to hire a coach who is available would be ridiculous, and to deny a coach without a job the right to get another job would be hard to defend also. That being said, I hope the Pats and McD get Tebowed today and this becomes a non-issue.

  6. mrnightshade says: Jan 14, 2012 12:28 PM

    interesting…how are they cheaters when no rule was broken?

    the cowboys did the same in 09′ before their playoff run with the hiring of a dolphin’s coach but there was no hoopla involved.

  7. blueglaze says: Jan 14, 2012 12:29 PM

    Does seem a little shady…

  8. lowleadman says: Jan 14, 2012 12:29 PM

    popdawg99 says:Jan 14, 2012 12:16 PM

    Patriots are cheaters.
    __________________________________
    And you sir, are a poop dog. It’s not cheating unless there is a law against it. The Pats are losing their o coordinator to Penn St and had the opportunity to get McDaniels who will take that position over in 2012. Why not grab the guy you want before someone else does?

    Their can’t be 98 other poop dogs who think like you. Must be a Steeler fan. Grow up. Like you have never cheated or done anything in life that was wrong. That may be true is your father keeps you locked up in the cellar.

  9. justsayin70 says: Jan 14, 2012 12:29 PM

    NOT closing this loophole for coaches is akin to allowing players who are in the last year of their contract become free agents at the end of their season … so a player in 2011 who didn’t make the playoffs and is a free agent for the 2012 season would be eligible to sign with a playoff team for the 2011 playoffs.

    Of course, that would never happen (and shouldn’t) but that’s equivalent to what happened with the McDaniels’ hiring.

    I argue that the league should have stepped in and addressed the hiring right away. It’s a shame it was permitted at all.

  10. harrisonhits2 says: Jan 14, 2012 12:29 PM

    My question is why is this suddenly a problem and “cheating” when the Pats do it but when the Fins released their defensive coordinator at the end of 2009 and he was immediately picked up by the Cowboys for their playoff run, nobody blinked an eye or said a word ?

    It’s called a double standard. Any one who did not complain when the Cowboys did this shows they are biased against the Pats by complaining now.

  11. fissels says: Jan 14, 2012 12:31 PM

    The Patriots should know that this is inherently wrong. I’m surprised they did it. Actually after thinking a bit, I’m not surprised.

  12. tatum064 says: Jan 14, 2012 12:33 PM

    Does this dude spread poison wherever he goes, or what? Then again, he drafted Tebow, ruined Bradford…and has the league closing “the loophole” What I wouldn’t give to see that post-game handshake if the Broncos upset them.

  13. tatum064 says: Jan 14, 2012 12:35 PM

    lowleadman says:
    Jan 14, 2012 12:29 PM
    popdawg99 says:Jan 14, 2012 12:16 PM

    Patriots are cheaters.
    __________________________________
    And you sir, are a poop dog. It’s not cheating unless there is a law against it. The Pats are losing their o coordinator to Penn St and had the opportunity to get McDaniels who will take that position over in 2012. Why not grab the guy you want before someone else does?

    Their can’t be 98 other poop dogs who think like you. Must be a Steeler fan. Grow up. Like you have never cheated or done anything in life that was wrong. That may be true is your father keeps you locked up in the cellar.

    ===============

    If the Pats get Tebow’d today, YOU’LL BE LOCKED UP IN CELLAR.

  14. pawesl says: Jan 14, 2012 12:38 PM

    They should stop ALL coaching interviews/hires until after the Super Bowl. I’m a Pats fan and frankly I dont care. They didnt break the rules at the time, so what they do from here forward is none of my concern. Why should other teams get to purge and disrupt playoff teams with interviews but the playoff teams are left up the creek so to say.

    How many times has this happened in the past and suddenly its an issue because its the Pats?

  15. sschmiggles says: Jan 14, 2012 12:39 PM

    Mike wouldn’t have written a half dozen articles on this if it were any other team. It’s amazing how jealous some of you guys are of Belichick.

    If they’re not going to allow teams to sign coaches in the playoffs, then ban coaches from interviewing and taking new jobs with college teams. The Pats wouldn’t have bothered calling McDaniels this early if O’Brien hadn’t talked to Penn State.

  16. jrfrom508 says: Jan 14, 2012 12:41 PM

    In all seriousness though, the 70% of readers who think the NFL should change this rule are your classic Patriots Haters.

    It’s cool though. Hater’s gonna hate. Brady’s gonna slate.

    XLVI

  17. vikingdoode says: Jan 14, 2012 12:42 PM

    Go Broncos just for this….

  18. xxshookonexx says: Jan 14, 2012 12:44 PM

    They didn’t cheat….cheating would be something along the lines of tripping a special teams player as they are gunning down the field.

  19. scoob766 says: Jan 14, 2012 12:45 PM

    Even if he wasn’t hired you can always get information from other coaches you are linked to. The harbaugh brothers spoke before they played the steelers. If you don’t think this is happening already you’re fooling yourself, so who cares.

  20. Soulman45 says: Jan 14, 2012 12:46 PM

    They ca use the phone to do the same thing picture phone while they are working out to see the alinement they can get it done rule change or not.

  21. domehead says: Jan 14, 2012 12:47 PM

    While I’m not a fan of the “EvilEmpire” lowleadman@ is right…It’s not against the rules. And the Pat’s were surely going to sign McDaniel anyway.
    On the other hand, is it really suprising that it’s the Pat’s again. A new league rule to close a “fairness” loophole that they exploited.

  22. gergie1957 says: Jan 14, 2012 12:47 PM

    I’m pretty sure the Pats have been taping the Broncos workouts this past week anyway, they’ll get what they need for that.

  23. rbirving says: Jan 14, 2012 12:55 PM

    None of the player movement rules apply to coaches, why start now? He’s not stepping on the field, so it shouldn’t matter.

    If they hired a coach off the opposing teams payroll I could understand stopping it. Why would they have to wait, while some other team could snap up that coach while you were winning in the playoffs.

    I’m not sure if there’s a collective bargaining agreement between the league and the coaches, but maybe their should be.

  24. senky3 says: Jan 14, 2012 1:25 PM

    i don’t really see a problem with this other than the excuse that obrian took a penn state job so we had to. obrian is still the oc so how is that a reason

  25. fpurcell says: Jan 14, 2012 1:33 PM

    Close the loophole … but to what effect? Couldn’t BB have simply phoned Josh McD to pick his brain? Let’s say the loophole was closed already; what’s to prohibit BB from inviting Josh McD to attend practice as an ‘observer’. A few years back, in the lead up to a Jets-Patriots game, Rex Ryan chirped about having lengthy game-planing discussions with his brother Rob (a former Patriot coach). What is going to be accomplished by delaying in-season (or in-post-season) hiring of coaches beyond delaying their hiring? I say nothing.

  26. obiwanbonogi says: Jan 14, 2012 1:49 PM

    Give it up. Its not a “loophole” as the rules clearly allow it.

    Maybe change the rules to disallow it it for your piece of mind but it wont have an impact.

  27. beefsbrother says: Jan 14, 2012 1:50 PM

    Not a lot of actual, you know, football talk as to what the impact of this move is. The Pats did something smart for the future and within the rules, and the haters are having a real thumbsuck over it.

  28. wte1 says: Jan 14, 2012 1:52 PM

    When someone conducting a poll is also offering their opinion the results are useless!

  29. bunjy96 says: Jan 14, 2012 1:52 PM

    It’s only a loophole if you think it is.

    I agree with the posters that said freeze all coaches from interview till after the SB. The teams that are in the playoffs get screwed every year.

    Apparently all players are not in the same boat, true FA can sign at anytime. Denver just did it.

    If you can’t hire a HC after the year starts (and I think that is correct-it has to be an interim from the present staff) , then you shouldn’t be able to hire anyone until a fixed date (SB), so that all are on the same playing field.

    If memory serves me right, the Patriots are only the second team in recent memory, to do this-Dallas was the other.

    Those that are looking at only the present situation are failing to look at the whole bigger picture.

    This is a typical panic reaction by the league. If it was any team other than the Pats, no one would have said boo, and didn’t in the past or the rule would have been changed then.

  30. bunjy96 says: Jan 14, 2012 1:59 PM

    Apparently all players are not in the same boat, true FA can sign at anytime. Denver just did it.

    The Ravens now did it also.

    Now if the Pats do it, all hell will break loose.

    And I am not a Pats fan.

  31. shenanigans24 says: Jan 14, 2012 2:01 PM

    Player rosters do not become frozen in place once the season ends.

  32. souldogdave says: Jan 14, 2012 2:53 PM

    If they let him go, which they did, he is free to do what he wants.

  33. daesch says: Jan 14, 2012 2:55 PM

    The league can consider all it wants. I can’t seem them touching this with a ten-foot pole. Consider:

    So far as I know, coaches don’t have a collective bargaining agreement. (If they do, the CBA covers this situation and would have to be negotiated).

    If there’s NOT a CBA, then ordinary labor law AND antitrust law applies. No way in hell is the league going to create “unclean hands” for itself when it comes time to deal with the players union again.

    The one way out of this I can imagine is a league wide policy / rule that states that coaching contracts must run through the end of the league year. If you want to fire a coach before then, league policy would be that you make an arrangement with the fired coach to allow his contract to run til then. Or something like that.

  34. obnoxio2 says: Jan 14, 2012 3:07 PM

    This has only become a problem because it was the Patriots and Bill Belichick who did it. It has been done before. Maybe no teams should be able to interview anyone until after the SuperBowl for coaching vacancies.

  35. minnyfan4life says: Jan 14, 2012 3:17 PM

    worst part is when the pats beat the broncos people will say its because McDaniels had inside information and not because the pats are the better team, and at home.

  36. commandercornpone says: Jan 14, 2012 3:35 PM

    if mcdaniels was that good, he would still have his old job. one of them, anyway.

  37. ytsejamer1 says: Jan 14, 2012 3:58 PM

    Say it with me now…in your best Arnold voice.

    “IT’S NOT A LOOPHOLE!!!”

    If you had asked the Broncos three weeks ago if they’d be happy to be rid of Josh McDaniels, they’d say “of course…we’re glad he’s gone, he sucked!” If you asked them this week, all of a sudden the answer becomes “Wait…that’s UNFAIR!”

    Not just Denver fans, but anyone complaining about this coaching hire by the Pats being unfair, are just whining. Your team could have just as easily asked the Rams for permission to talk with McD and offered him a job. No one did…except the Pats…and possibly KC. So, please, enough…stop the nonsense.

  38. stillworker says: Jan 14, 2012 4:12 PM

    Re: ‘caseyanthonymunoz’

    Geez………I hope you’re not as dumb-looking as you sound.

  39. Herb says: Jan 14, 2012 4:25 PM

    Chalk another one up to a rule change being forced because of the machinations of Belicheat. It can join the “Tom Brady Rule,” the “Ty Law Rule,” the no-two-time-outs-to-ice-the-kicker rule, the “Bill Belichick Rule”… You can say “It’s not illegal” all you want, but the fact that the league has to keep changing the rules to keep up with what the Patriots keep doing shows that what they’re doing isn’t “right.”

  40. nesuperfan says: Jan 14, 2012 6:27 PM

    red513, other than wanting the Pats to lose (but you are entirely entitled to that), your post was brilliantly thought out.

  41. finfan713 says: Jan 14, 2012 10:00 PM

    What loophole? This is ridiculous it’s even being talked about. Why should a player be allowed to be signed immediately to another squad after being cut, but not a coach after being fired? Players are signed by opposing teams all the time to learn formations and audibles, but coaches should have to wait? I’m a dolphin fan and hate the patriots, but please, all the “haters” are being babies about this.

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