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Why the Packers lost

Green Bay Packers quarterback Rodgers shakes hands with New York Giants Canty after the Packers were defeated during their NFL NFC Divisional playoff football game in Green Bay Reuters

As NFL fans, we should know by now to expect the unexpected. But it’s still a surprise when the team with the best record in the league led by the likely MVP loses its first playoff game.

There were warning signs for this 15-1 Packers squad, especially late in the year. But what happened Sunday?

Bad tackling 

This was an epidemic for the Packers defense, especially late in the year. Safety Charlie Peprah’s inability to wrap up led to the 66-yard score by Hakeem Nicks.  Green Bay’s failure to bring down Ahmad Bradshaw on the second to last play of the first half cost the Packers seven points.

The Giants were trying to go into halftime, and the Packers essentially didn’t let them by failing to tackle Bradshaw. The next play, Nicks’ Hail Mary catch put the Packers in a big halftime hole.  Speaking of which …

Shoddy secondary

The Packers didn’t have enough depth in the secondary all year. The Packers defense gave up 400 yards in seven of their last eight games.  That only works if the offense is playing at a high level and you win the turnover battle. Even Tramon Williams and Charles Woodson were beat too often. Eli Manning averaged 10 yards-per-attempt on the game. Aaron Rodgers averaged 5.7.  Manning found more receivers open under duress than Rodgers.

Unforced errors

FOX’s broadcast counted eight drops by the Packers. ESPN counted six, the highest for a team all year. The Packers had a lot of self-inflicted wounds Sunday. John Kuhn lost a fumble. Ryan Grant lost a fumble. Whether it was the layoff or not, the Packers looked like a rusty team.

Missed opportunities

The Packers had their chances for big plays and couldn’t hit them. Rodgers missed Greg Jennings wide open for a potential touchdown in the first quarter. When the Packers looked ready to uncork a long score in the third quarter, protection failed and Osi Umenyiora got a strip sack.

With the Packers down only seven early in the fourth quarter, Rodgers missed a wide open Jermichael Finley in Giants territory. The drive ended one play later.

This loss doesn’t fall on Rodgers, but those were plays he made during the season. He has been sharper.

The wrong matchup

The first Giants-Packers game didn’t look like a mismatch. It looked like two evenly matched teams going at it. On that day, Rodgers was simply the best player on the field. Clay Matthews and Jordy Nelson may have been the next best, but top-to-bottom it was a very evenly played game.

The Packers’ stars didn’t step up in the big moments Sunday. The Giants’ stars did.  It’s hard to argue with Aaron Rodgers: There the Giants were simply the better team.

The Packers know this is how the NFL goes. The team that sneaks into the playoffs is often better than the one that looked like the favorite all year.

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  1. macbull says: Jan 15, 2012 9:12 PM

    It’s simple…DEFENSE MATTERS TOO!

  2. gcsuk says: Jan 15, 2012 9:13 PM

    And where is the story “Examining why the Giants Won”? I think they did 1 or 2 things right, didn’t they? Or is this a “Packers beat themselves” kind of day?

  3. vikingsfan34 says: Jan 15, 2012 9:13 PM

    As Wayne would say “There is your Daggar!” Packer Backers

  4. maddenisfordorks says: Jan 15, 2012 9:13 PM

    The Giants, that’s why the Packers lost.

  5. petersonisthepurplejesus says: Jan 15, 2012 9:13 PM

    maybe they should’ve came to work instead of banging on their drums all day hahahahaha

  6. eigglesnosuperbowls says: Jan 15, 2012 9:14 PM

    I noticed the refs were not one of the reasons !

  7. thatobnoxiousguy says: Jan 15, 2012 9:15 PM

    Packers lost because :
    1. Eli was the better QB
    2. Giants defense is better.
    3. See #1 and #2

  8. thatobnoxiousguy says: Jan 15, 2012 9:16 PM

    The Packers defense has not been good all year. In January, defense wins. Plus Eli outplayed Aaron.

  9. goldrush36 says: Jan 15, 2012 9:16 PM

    It’s much easier to state plain and simple facts than examine the reasons.

    Fact 1: It’s January
    Fact 2: Giants are more complete
    Fact 3: Arena football doesn’t win it all in the NFL
    case closed

  10. longdrivesaint says: Jan 15, 2012 9:16 PM

    I’d like a big block of Blue cheese thank you.

  11. megapowerspt says: Jan 15, 2012 9:17 PM

    A 15-1 season and Rodgers picking up the NFL MVP. Not too bad for a defending Super Bowl champ. You can’t win it every year.

  12. dean112263 says: Jan 15, 2012 9:17 PM

    Congrats to the Giants. They were by far the better team and deserved to beat my Packers.
    Rodgers was off today. The Jennings and Finley overthrows were an example. That being said, some of A-Rod’s runs were the only reason this game wasn’t any worse than it was.
    Was it just me or did the Packers not realize that Giants were shredding their zone ALL day? Why stick with it if you’re getting burned. Packers pass rush was non-existent and the Giants rush was a huge force in the game.
    Horrible fundamentals on Packers. Horrible ball control (drops, fumbles). LOUSY tackling also.
    The Hail Mary in 1st half was the HEIGHT of inexcusable defense. (set up by the aforementioned tackling on Bradshaw’s run that set it up)

  13. KIR says: Jan 15, 2012 9:23 PM

    They lost because the Giant have the best front 4 and are playing the best defense in the league at the right time. And, the Packers are a one dimensional Pass game offense. The Packers need a great/good back. Last year Starks was a very good RB at the end of the season and in the playoffs which kept defenses honest.

    I will take a great defense and run game over a great offense any day.

  14. trbowman says: Jan 15, 2012 9:25 PM

    Certainly doesn’t affect the Packers “dynasty” in an adverse way, though. They’ll be one of the favorites to win it all again next year.

  15. elementaleffect says: Jan 15, 2012 9:26 PM

    How about an article about how the Giants won instead of why the Packers lost. Yea the packers had a bunch of drops but they also got every single call going their way to keep drives alive. How about you give the Giants (who no one even picked to make the playoffs) a little bit of well deserved credit.

  16. bbkld5 says: Jan 15, 2012 9:26 PM

    You didn’t mention the elephant in the room.

    All things being equal, a game can be won or lost on emotion, and the Packers took two hard emotional hits in their coaching staff during the two week break. Because the Packers are built to be a family team, there’s not telling if these events had a greater or lesser hit than a “normal” NFL team.

    At the very minimum, there had to have been some kind of impact to prep time, and perhaps a greater impact in terms of distractions.

    If the Packers had won, we would have been saluting this team for their strength and perseverance. We should still acknowledge and respect them for their efforts during this time.

  17. dondada10 says: Jan 15, 2012 9:26 PM

    The refs didn’t try hard enough.

  18. dggbfan says: Jan 15, 2012 9:26 PM

    I don’t really think this was much of a surprise. The Giants were my pick to win. The lost because they weren’t as good at the end of the season as they were at the beginning. Simple as that.

  19. dggbfan says: Jan 15, 2012 9:27 PM

    dondada10 says:Jan 15, 2012 9:26 PM

    The refs didn’t try hard enough.

    *** LOL! Amen!

  20. danielcp0303 says: Jan 15, 2012 9:28 PM

    I’d like to hear from Packers fans as to why the defense isn’t like it was last season. I only watched 3 games of theirs this season, so maybe they can give some better insight.

  21. jredshoes says: Jan 15, 2012 9:29 PM

    The. packers didn’t take complete advantage of the horrible officiating who due to Vegas lines the NFL uses to control the flow of games and point spreeeds

  22. jetsetfred says: Jan 15, 2012 9:29 PM

    Discount Double GOT CHECKED!

  23. ckacv111 says: Jan 15, 2012 9:29 PM

    Of course you’d write an article like this, Gregggggg.

    Here’s an answer: Less acting, more practicing.

  24. golonger says: Jan 15, 2012 9:29 PM

    Packers lost because their defense is pathetic….and their offense is over-rated!

  25. moerawn says: Jan 15, 2012 9:30 PM

    Giants? Boooo.Ravens? Booooo. Patriots? Yaaaawn. Niners maybe.

  26. goawayeverybody says: Jan 15, 2012 9:30 PM

    I was rooting for the Packers and was sad when they lost.

    But then I remembered how much trash talk the Packers’ fans did all year on this site. And then I felt much, much better.

  27. Patriot42 says: Jan 15, 2012 9:30 PM

    It was the lack of a pass rush……

  28. goawayeverybody says: Jan 15, 2012 9:31 PM

    15-2.

  29. whackman says: Jan 15, 2012 9:31 PM

    OMG, listen to the

  30. thinwhiteduke76 says: Jan 15, 2012 9:42 PM

    Defense wins Championships, Offense sells tickets.

  31. daysend564 says: Jan 15, 2012 9:43 PM

    How about this…

    Unless you play the Broncos, if you have no defense and no ability to run the ball you lose in the playoffs

  32. kappy32 says: Jan 15, 2012 9:45 PM

    Ridiculous. The Packers lost because they got dominated in every facet of the game from the first whistle to the last. No excuses whatsoever. The Giants made plays when the chance presented itself. We’re not talking about a FG win here; we’re talking about a 17 point drubbing that should have been worse had it not been for 2 horrible calls. The first one was the clear fumble by Jennings, ruled a fumble at first, overruled by a ref who was far away from the play, then somehow upheld despite conclusive evidence of a fumble; that drive ended in 7 points. The second was the terrible post-incompletion on 3rd & 10 roughing the passer call on Osi, who hit Rodgers in the side, before he was even done with his follow through; that resulted in 7 points. Take those gifts away & we are looking at a Patriots-Broncos like blow out. There was nothing the Packers could have done to win that game; the Giants were the better team.

    As for you 49ers fans who are thinking you guys will win next week, don’t get too excited. As the Packers found out today, this Giants team is NOT the same team you saw mid-season. This team is healthier than its been all year & they’re clicking on all cylinders. You aren’t playing the Saints defense on Sunday. Alex Smith looked dead for 3 1/2 quarters against a far inferior Saints defense. You’re also not playing a dome team; you’re playing a team that is used to the elements, elements far worse than winter in San Fran. You better know that every player on your team better come to play 60 minutes. If your offense takes off 2 1/2 quarters like they did yesterday, it’s going to get out of hand. Just like the Packers, the 49ers thrive off the turnover & flipping field possession; that’s not going to happen against the Giants. Destiny is on the Giants’ side… You can bring the ’72 Dolphins out & the Giants would win. Here’s a stat that you should be very afraid of… Since the merger in 1970, the Giants have played in 4 NFC Championship Games. Their record: 4-0. They just dominated the best team in football & they will not lose to a far inferior 49ers team. 2007-2008 repeated.

  33. footballace says: Jan 15, 2012 9:47 PM

    The Packers lost because the Giants were better today. How about that?

  34. purpleisreallypinkyouknow says: Jan 15, 2012 9:48 PM

    trbowman says:Jan 15, 2012 9:25 PM

    Certainly doesn’t affect the Packers “dynasty” in an adverse way, though. They’ll be one of the favorites to win it all again next year.
    __________________________________

    Bite your tongue there. There’s a TON of issues for Thompson (and MM) to address.

    Defense as a whole…..pathetic. No pass rush…Collins possibly retired with injury…Woodson’s status on retiring? Peprah maybe out…that side of the ball is in shambles. #5 last year to #32 this year??? Inexcuseable.

    Running game…nonexistent. Grant is gone….becoming more clear by the day that Starks may not have it and certainly cannot block. They have little to nothing in the tank after that. O-line is beat up and/or aging rapidly.

    Coaching staff will need a whole new revamping after what looks like Moss, Capers, and maybe Philbin going down the road for new gigs. If they land top jobs, you can bet more staffers are out of Green Bay to follow them.

    Packers were never in it mentally…that resting your QB/starters thing will soon get the same rap as the prevent defense does late in the game. Giants showed up ready to go and they showed the Packers how to play on both sides of the ball.

    Good to see Driver get a TD, even if in garbage time…..may have been the last time you see him in uniform.

    Good luck to both teams next week, should be a dandy.

  35. nflovercollegefb says: Jan 15, 2012 9:48 PM

    Aaron Rodgers is the best QB on the planet with a 10 point lead but once his team falls behind he seems very ordinary.

  36. galbertkun says: Jan 15, 2012 9:49 PM

    Eli was playing very well today. That Giants-49ers game will be smashmouth

  37. harleypuppy says: Jan 15, 2012 9:49 PM

    For anyone willing to listen I am a Packer fan my entire life since 1965 I have suffered through some dismal times but unless you are a real PACKER fan then you will never have the connection we have to our team you are just fans we are owners and you can never have the feeling we do for all you Giant fans who are gloating now remember 2007 well unless you take the Lombardi trophy home it don’t mean squat this is not sour grapes but I think Tom Brady and company want another shot at you and after what they did to that Bronco defense I am glad we don’t have to face them.

  38. cubano76 says: Jan 15, 2012 9:51 PM

    Eli happened!

  39. szwhtsup123 says: Jan 15, 2012 9:53 PM

    Funny, a few of you mention poor tackling by the Packers and I thought it was the Giants that weren’t making open field solo tackles or wrapping people up. The Pack is a great team led by an great QB and a classy fan base. But any time you that many people CONVINCED your oppponent can’t win means the opponent is probably going to win. It was the Giants’ night and no one will give them a chance to win all the way to the Super Bowl, just it was in 2008 – and just the way we like it. SB Champs NY Giants 2012

  40. pack1980 says: Jan 15, 2012 9:54 PM

    Packers defense never was just horrible all year and you would have thought that they could be serviceable enough to beat a mediocre NY Giants team? That being said we lost for 3 reasons.

    1. Lack of pressure, terrible tackling, bad angles all over the place, just terrible defensive play.

    2. Going for it on 4th down early in the 4th Qtr., was the wrong play call. That took the last of the wind out of their sails and was the dagger in my opinion.

    3. 3 players that most likely won’t be on the team next season made terrible plays or just played terribly. Grant fumble in the 4th, Finley’s dropsies again & Crabtree drop that stalled a good drive. I think this game really proved Finley will be on his way out.

    Sign and trade Flynn for establishd players or picks, draft D-line/secondary help and go get a pass rusher to help Matthews out. We will be back next year!! Go Pack!

  41. mikeyman321 says: Jan 15, 2012 9:55 PM

    The NFC Pro Bowl Team is looking real good now with Brees and Rodgers on the team

  42. blu4l1fe says: Jan 15, 2012 9:55 PM

    There was a lot of trash talking this past week. I guess that is part of the game. But we can agree that the Giants came and backed up all the talking they did all week. The media and Packers fans can point to a lot of reasons and some excuses, as well, as to why Green Bay lost. And the haters can also now root for the 49ers for next week’s game since they are the next game for the Giants. Bottom line, like last week, the Giants came to play and won.

    LET’S GO GIANTS!!!!!

  43. whitecastleisafoodgroup says: Jan 15, 2012 9:57 PM

    Dom Capers will not being going to Oakland.

  44. jeff2380 says: Jan 15, 2012 9:58 PM

    Bbkld5. Really you guys lost because your offensive coordinators son died. Yeah I’m sure that’s what Rodgers was thinking about when he dropped back to pass. His son Was a drug addict who molested underage girls you get no sympathy from me. You lost cause the giants were the better team today. Man up and take defeat don’t make excuses. That the packers are a more family oriented team and we’re distraught and couldn’t focus cause a Person they never met Passed away

  45. 2difshoe says: Jan 15, 2012 10:00 PM

    Even with the Refs helping the Packnerds, reversing the fumble call that cost NY 7 pts., also the lame personal foul, hands to the face on Rodgers, 15 yards, 1st down which resulted in a TD. If you watched all the replays, you would have seen Manning was hit helmet to helmet on 2 occasions, in which nothing was called. Refs helping the Pack to 14 pts….and they still couldn’t win.

    It’s hard to beat an opponent who 1. is 15-1….2. Has Home Field advantage… 3. You have to beat the Officials too.

    Kudos to the Giants !

  46. buzmeg says: Jan 15, 2012 10:01 PM

    The Packers lost because everyone knows in the divisional round one home team usually lays an egg. It just so happened that the Packers had to play the last game of the round, and all the preceding home teams were victorious. It was inevitable that the Packers were ripe for a loss.

  47. joelvis72 says: Jan 15, 2012 10:08 PM

    I think the main reason they lost is because they didn’t score as many points as the Giants scored.

  48. rugdog100 says: Jan 15, 2012 10:11 PM

    The simple fact is that the Packers are not as great as their fans think they are. Their horrible defense bit them in the behind today.

  49. mad1449ers says: Jan 15, 2012 10:13 PM

    Defense still wins championships. Two of the three “super” offense teams that were supposed to be the anointed ones went down this week. Next week Pats will suffer the same fate, all offense and no defense=no ring.
    As far as the NFC game the team whose defense steps up will be headed to the super bowl. I could be biased, but I believe the #1 defense is headed back to the big game….

  50. th56 says: Jan 15, 2012 10:14 PM

    maybe they should have spent more time preparing than talking about their dynasty.

  51. nelspetersen says: Jan 15, 2012 10:14 PM

    The Packers clearly lost because they don’t have Tebow as their QB, he would have rallied the troops for a comeback and would’ve had the defense playing better. You can’t put a price on leadership.

  52. vikingprideforever says: Jan 15, 2012 10:15 PM

    reminds me of my ’98 vikings. all it took was one off night by the offense and your done. got to have some defense, maybe not the “steel curtain”, but at least some to win a championship

  53. goldrush36 says: Jan 15, 2012 10:16 PM

    I will also add the Saints defensive stats are also inflated because they had tons of blowouts where teams were throwing up garbage yards trying to come back.

  54. kappy32 says: Jan 15, 2012 10:18 PM

    Yesterday’s game between the 49ers & Saints showed 1 thing: Vernom Davis is the biggest threat the 49ers have. Here’s 3 names for you… Jason Witten, Tony Gonzalez & Jermichael Finley; what do they all have in common? They’re all better than Davis & they were all shut down by Michael Boley & the Giants. Good luck next week, 49ers.

  55. earthtopft says: Jan 15, 2012 10:19 PM

    Don’t blame Rodgers, his passer rating for the playoffs was only 12 points below Tebow’s.

  56. bronaldo says: Jan 15, 2012 10:21 PM

    harleypuppy says:
    Jan 15, 2012 9:49 PM
    For anyone willing to listen I am a Packer fan my entire life since 1965 I have suffered through some dismal times but unless you are a real PACKER fan then you will never have the connection we have to our team you are just fans we are owners and you can never have the feeling we do for all you Giant fans who are gloating now remember 2007 well unless you take the Lombardi trophy home it don’t mean squat this is not sour grapes but I think Tom Brady and company want another shot at you and after what they did to that Bronco defense I am glad we don’t have to face them.
    ——————————————-

    Hey Harley,

    As a Packer fan, you sound a little delusional. Don’t make us all out to be crazy homers, it’s a little unsettling. Thanks.

    The Packers were outplayed throughout the whole game. Never led, never were in control, not even close. Any time something got going, it was a turnover or drop killing the drive. Defense can’t tackle, makes the wrong reads, and just generally blows coverage.

    They are and will be a good team, so I can only hope to next year. There needs to be a lot of focus on upgrading the pass rush, and hopefully Nick Collins comes back.

    Good luck to the Giants.

  57. purp4lyfe says: Jan 15, 2012 10:21 PM

    BRB I had mexican for dinner and I’ve got to take a PACKERS!! LOL

  58. dkeyser says: Jan 15, 2012 10:21 PM

    The Giants won because they scored more points than the Packers… Pretty simple really..

  59. snaponrules says: Jan 15, 2012 10:22 PM

    They all say Eli is not elite.
    But in the big games he has beaten most of the “elite” qb’s
    I am no giants fan, but they got a pretty good qb.

  60. raiderapologist says: Jan 15, 2012 10:22 PM

    And the Raiders are going to hire a head coach from that assistant staff? Coughlin gets no respect. So far his name hasn’t been mentioned in the story or the comments. Give that red-assed old man his due. He is a good coach.

  61. banjojones says: Jan 15, 2012 10:25 PM

    You never know. That’s what makes the NFL great.

  62. getchapopcornready says: Jan 15, 2012 10:26 PM

    2 Things: why didn’t the replay judge do the Lambeau Leap after the Packers scored in the 1st half.

    Secondly: Is not the criteria for a Helmet to Helmet roughing the Passer penalty based on the premise that you actually have to have some kind of contact with the Quarterback’s helmet?

  63. judsonjr says: Jan 15, 2012 10:26 PM

    The Grant fumble was the killer. You have the ball at midfield with 7 min left, down 10 versus a Giants D that has spent a lot of time on the field. Even if you settle for FG with 5 minutes left, you are still very alive which is great considering all the mistakes made.

    The worst part of that play was that he was fighting for yards that were not there and were not needed, and he exposed the ball instead of getting both hands on it.

    It’s the type of play that takes you from having a chance to game over in a matter of seconds.

  64. rexismybff says: Jan 15, 2012 10:27 PM

    “This loss doesn’t fall on Rodgers, but those were plays he made during the season. He has been sharper.”

    ======================

    Of course the loss falls on him. Two turnovers, and his team loses by 17 at home while he is mis-firing all night. Face it – he’s no Brett Favre. Brett could deal with the cold and the wind. Aaron is like Drew Brees – uncomfortable in poor weather conditions.

  65. unclemoobaa1911 says: Jan 15, 2012 10:32 PM

    Because the Giants scored more points?

  66. toddm6d says: Jan 15, 2012 10:33 PM

    Matt Flynn would have won that game.

  67. pongonfl says: Jan 15, 2012 10:34 PM

    Officials could stop turn overs, they could ignore roughing the passer, they could take away Giant first downs, they could even pretend that field goals actually were successful when they were not.
    But they couldn’t catch the ball for the GB receivers.
    So GB lost.

  68. msclemons67 says: Jan 15, 2012 10:38 PM

    It’s a pity the Packers blew this game. We had a chance to have Pennsylvania and New York completely out of the playoffs, thereby removing the most obnoxious fans in the country from the internet.

    Ah well.

  69. unshavenjunk says: Jan 15, 2012 10:38 PM

    Why the packers lost. I think its because the giants scored more points

  70. blackbeardk says: Jan 15, 2012 10:44 PM

    The Packers lost because the Giants are the most schizo team in the league. They make Rex Grossman seem positively reliable.

    Today the Good Giants showed up. But next week the mediocre Giants that got by the Jets in week 16 might show up, or the Bad Giants that lost to the Redskins in week 15 might show up.

    I was cheering for the Giants, because I want the Raiders to hire a coach, but I am not ready to crown them champions just yet…

    I am cheering for the Harbrawl Super Bowl…

  71. waitstop says: Jan 15, 2012 10:46 PM

    All this talk of dropped passes for the team. I’m curious if there’s something about the way Rodgers throws or delivers the ball that makes a little harder for receivers. Seems more likely that it’s the individual thrower rather than multiple receivers, right?

  72. cowboylover says: Jan 15, 2012 10:47 PM

    I love my Cowboys, but congrats to the Giants tonight. They looked like champions.

  73. dino2997 says: Jan 15, 2012 10:49 PM

    The Packers lost because:

    1. They have no defense
    2. They have no running game
    3. They have no offensive line

    Rodgers had made up for those deficiencies all year long and he simply couldn’t in this game.

  74. shaggytoodle says: Jan 15, 2012 10:50 PM

    As a Packer fan thats flustered by the lost its not on anyone aspect of the game, coaching, offenese, defense, special teams and officiating goofy plays all around.

    I had a worse feeling about today vs. NYG than any playoff game last year. Hats off, hell of a game. NYG earned it, and everything that comes after.

  75. joecb91 says: Jan 15, 2012 10:57 PM

    Because their defense sucks at everything except forcing turnovers and they put so much pressure on Rodgers to be in God Mode every week that eventually everything was going to fall apart.

  76. murphyov says: Jan 15, 2012 10:58 PM

    The Giants wanted it more. On the Hail Mary the Packers corners were jogging, literally jogging behind Nicks and either Manningham or Cruz, I forget which, on the way to the endzone – Nicks basically just showed up and jumped for it almost untouched and undefended. I don’t understand why the Packer defenders failed to make getting to the endzone a priority since there was no time left. You can’t win the game, but you can lose it by not finishing out the half strong.

    Aaron Rodgers was overthrowing passes all game, he was rusty from not playing in a game for three weeks. Resting players late in the season, contrary to popular belief, hurts not helps. Sure, there’s injury risk, but no more so than in any other game. I haven’t done research, but, I’d be willing to bet that resting players and then losing in the playoffs happens more often than playing them and suffering a key injury. Players need to play to stay sharp. Today, Rodgers and the Packers, clearly were not sharp and well-prepared.

  77. earthtopft says: Jan 15, 2012 10:59 PM

    The Lambeau refs Discount Double Cheat move wasn’t quite enough.

  78. jr4real says: Jan 15, 2012 10:59 PM

    Go pack Go?
    Who dat?

    Yes, Arena League is over. Now two football teams get to play each other!!!

  79. briscocountyjr says: Jan 15, 2012 11:00 PM

    One of the refs was caught by security trying to shutoff the stadium and change the score when the power came back on.

    Apparently he had folded up GB stock in his pocket when security patted him down.

  80. asublimeday says: Jan 15, 2012 11:01 PM

    You forgot soft team.

  81. justwinbaby29 says: Jan 15, 2012 11:03 PM

    Eli Manning: All. He. Does. Is. Win.

  82. Spencer says: Jan 15, 2012 11:04 PM

    They should have rested Rodgers another week. Huge tactical mistake letting him play.

  83. stercuilus65 says: Jan 15, 2012 11:05 PM

    8 drops, 3 fumbles, hard for any team to overcome that. Pretty simple.

    Throw in the hail mary and total absence of a pass rush and I’m amazed it wasn’t even more of a blowout (the non fumble overturn helped them).

    Just an embarrassing shameful performance bt the Packers.

  84. roberts09 says: Jan 15, 2012 11:06 PM

    The NFL network told you all who was going to win before the games were played. The ad with Micheal Irvin talking about championship week started running on saturday before the first game. The ad showed pictures of the giants, 49ers, ravens and patriots. There were no signs of the packers, saints, broncos or texans. Last weeks ad featured the broncos, saints, giants, texans taliking about divisional round coverage. All the teams that were featured in the ad went on to win and the same was this week. The NFL sure did make alot of money on the packers this year. oh and vegas too. I hope your team’s number gets picked by the NFL this year to win the super bowl

  85. packerowner says: Jan 15, 2012 11:08 PM

    With the way the Giants were playing, the Packers had to play mistake-free football. Obviously, this was not the case. The Packers were beat as a team.

  86. jgo304 says: Jan 15, 2012 11:08 PM

    danielcp0303 says: Jan 15, 2012 9:28 PM

    I’d like to hear from Packers fans as to why the defense isn’t like it was last season. I only watched 3 games of theirs this season, so maybe they can give some better insight.

    Well my man here’s your 100% answer.

    No Cullen Jenkins yes he was worth every penny of 4.5 mill a year. Thompson screwed the pooch on this one. He allowed that nickle package to be sucessful because he could create push and pressure. Without CJ Raji Regressed. Neal and Wilson and Wynn are nobodys.

    No Nick Collin next to Ed Reed the best ball hawking safety in the league he also can wrap up and tackle. A huge void if Nick is done for good which I hope he is not. A great player and a great man.

    Typical Flakey Capers year, Capers was flat out awful this year in adjusting. Why play Nicks 10 yards off the LOS, why not allow Woodson, Williams, and Shield to play some press coverage with some safety help. Capers always does this he did it in Pitttsburgh, Caro, and now GB he just meltsdown.

  87. rwgatz says: Jan 15, 2012 11:08 PM

    harleypuppy says:
    Jan 15, 2012 9:49 PM
    For anyone willing to listen I am a Packer fan my entire life since 1965 I have suffered through some dismal times but unless you are a real PACKER fan then you will never have the connection we have to our team you are just fans we are owners and you can never have the feeling we do for all you Giant fans who are gloating now remember 2007 well unless you take the Lombardi trophy home it don’t mean squat this is not sour grapes but I think Tom Brady and company want another shot at you and after what they did to that Bronco defense I am glad we don’t have to face them.

    You are full of crap. Just because you bought a $250 piece of paper you think you own your team? It’s nothing more than a tax you moron. Since you are an owner why don’t you call up your employee’s and ask them why they didn’t show up to work today?

  88. kriswd40 says: Jan 15, 2012 11:10 PM

    Packers are a dome team without the dome. Am I the only one that sees that? Dome teams have trouble outside in the elements. Ironic that a team in Green Bay isn’t built to win late season in their own stadium.

  89. dscol715 says: Jan 15, 2012 11:13 PM

    Bad tackling, turnovers and drops all indicate a lack of focus that doesn’t make sense for a proven champion like the Packers. Not trying to take anything away from the Giants but it is hard to imagine the tragedy the Packers had to deal with this week didn’t play a role in the game today.

  90. kriswd40 says: Jan 15, 2012 11:15 PM

    All this talk of dropped passes for the team. I’m curious if there’s something about the way Rodgers throws or delivers the ball that makes a little harder for receivers. Seems more likely that it’s the individual thrower rather than multiple receivers, right?

    =============

    I’d guess it’s more on the Packer’s receivers having a tough time catching balls in cold weather than anything Rodgers is doing. Though I suppose the velocity he throws at could make a difference too.

  91. thejuddstir says: Jan 15, 2012 11:15 PM

    “harleypuppy says:Jan 15, 2012 9:49 PM

    For anyone willing to listen I am a Packer fan my entire life since 1965 I have suffered through some dismal times but unless you are a real PACKER fan then you will never have the connection we have to our team you are just fans we are owners”
    …………………………………………………….
    harley has either been drinking the kool aid or quite possibly a few too many Milwaukee’s Best, “we are owners” LMAO

  92. thejuddstir says: Jan 15, 2012 11:17 PM

    Let’s talk about Erin’s record when trailing in the 4th qtr……something close to 3-18, wonder how that compares to Brett Favre’s.

  93. tatum064 says: Jan 15, 2012 11:17 PM

    pongonfl says:
    Jan 15, 2012 10:34 PM
    Officials could stop turn overs, they could ignore roughing the passer, they could take away Giant first downs, they could even pretend that field goals actually were successful when they were not.
    But they couldn’t catch the ball for the GB receivers.
    ========================
    absolutely right.

  94. gbpackersfan12 says: Jan 15, 2012 11:20 PM

    While leaving the stadium a Giants fan says to me (I had my Rodgers Jersey on) ” Hey, Rodgers, Discount Double CHOKE!” While I was in no mood to respond at that time, I gotta give credit, that was a good zinger.

    Tough loss, this one will take a few weeks to get over… ugh.

  95. fcs34 says: Jan 15, 2012 11:21 PM

    Well that was one short dynasty. The Pack look alot like a slightly more talented Colts before Manning went out. Weak D, mediocre at best running game and if the QB is off just a bit they are done.

  96. goldrush36 says: Jan 15, 2012 11:25 PM

    Kappy32 you need to lay off the koolaid. 1. The Saints D was actually rated higher than the Giants and allowed 61 points less despite all the garbage yards put up against them during blowouts. 2. Finley is nowhere near Vernon Davis’ level even though he has a better QB throwing to him. 3. You lost to Alex Smith’s arm and our TE’s had 9 receptions 109 yds and a TD against you. Your arrogance is why everyone hates New York, it has nothing to do with jealousy. You will also not be around spouting off your mouth if the Giants lose. It’s funny you call a team that beat you, and went 3-1 with an overtime loss against the division you barely won while dropping 2 games to the team that finished last in it far inferior. See how foolish you sound yet? I’m sure PFT won’t post this anyway, but you are a clown

  97. skolvikings74 says: Jan 15, 2012 11:27 PM

    Hey, at least Miss Wisconsin won the Miss America pageant.

  98. Reggie's Bush says: Jan 15, 2012 11:27 PM

    Where are all the writers/”analysts” saying packers were winning the next 3 superbowls no problem?

  99. bluestar12 says: Jan 15, 2012 11:28 PM

    I’m a cowboys fan so naturally i hate the giants. I remember this summer when Eli gave an interview and said he was an elite qb, and I laughed like crazy. I’m laughing no more as Eli has improved his game, backed up his words, and has became an absoluetly elite qb. As much as I hate the giants props to them the better team won today.

  100. hushbrother says: Jan 15, 2012 11:29 PM

    Further proof that resting your starters late in the year is a bad move. Few football teams can turn it off for a few weeks and then just turn it back on, and these Packers aren’t one of those teams. As a team that just the previous year rode a season-ending hot streak to the Super Bowl, Mike McCarthy should have known that.

  101. manzoa says: Jan 15, 2012 11:31 PM

    Not a fan of the Packers or Saints…best part of these 2 losing is not having to listen to ESPN azz clowns like Van Pelt, Rusillo, and Colon Cowturd spew their sickening man love for the “great Drew Brees” and the “great Aaron Rodgers”…guess what trolls, these guys still have one ring…just like Trent Dillweed. The man in Foxboro is still number ONE…and still has 3 rings. BTW Aaron and Drew…enjoy the Pro Bowl…LMFAO.

  102. bluefan204 says: Jan 15, 2012 11:32 PM

    Bill Leavey simply didn’t do his job well enough. By God, he DID try, but fell short. Only 2 horrendously blown calls against the Giants, but he needed 3 to ensure a GB victory.

    Lets give him the gameball!

  103. MossMoon2Packers says: Jan 15, 2012 11:33 PM

    Due to their insufferable fans, I thoroughly enjoyed every minute of the merde-kicking administered to the Packers.

  104. burkartsj says: Jan 15, 2012 11:33 PM

    I’m a die hard Packer’s fan and of course I’ve followed them all year…Anyone who has actually watched the games will not be surprised by the outcome of this one. All year the Packers won by playing great offense and not turning the ball over. The defense was always bad but managed to get the key turnovers.

    Today the defense played it’s usual bad game but was not helped by several offensive turnovers. I’m disappointed but not surprised. The Packer’s defensive has been bad for AT LEAST FOUR YEARS and I hope this gets corrected soon:

    1. 2008 Season – Rodgers 1st year as starter. Rodgers puts up pretty good numbers, he takes too many sacks but otherwise pretty good. Why are the Packers 6-10 that year? The defense can’t get off the field.

    2. 2009 Season – The Packers make the playoffs with a statistically good defense, but if you actually watched the games you would know that the reality is that the defense feasted on rookie/bad quarterbacks while getting torched by good quarterbacks. In the playoffs the Packers lose to the Cardinals in a shootout. I’m sorry but when your offense scores over 40 points and the team STILL loses then your defense is garbage (see playoff game).

    3. 2010 Season – The Packers win the Super Bowl! All is well and the team is great, right? Well, I won’t argue with a Super Bowl win, but let’s be honest: the defense was the definition of a piece of garbage that “gelled” down the stretch and managed to get it done.

    4. 2011 Season – The Packers go 15-1 but lose their opening playoff game. Defensively this team has been going in reverse since 2008 but the offense has been good enough to compensate. That’s fine when the offense is clicking, but when it doesn’t…

    Frankly, I’m more surprised that the offense was able to cover for the defense’s shortcomings FIFTEEN TIMES THIS SEASON than that the offense was thrown off track this week.

    Ted Thompson, IT IS PAINFULLY OBVIOUS THAT WE NEED HELP ON DEFENSE.

  105. chrishousand says: Jan 15, 2012 11:35 PM

    I bet they can’t do it again.

  106. gamermwm says: Jan 15, 2012 11:35 PM

    Let me see if I can get in on the fun. I’ll try one…

    Discount………….Double…………..Choke?

  107. dougydougdoug says: Jan 15, 2012 11:35 PM

    I think they lost because when the game ended, they had fewer points than the Giants. But I’m no expert.

  108. bluestar12 says: Jan 15, 2012 11:37 PM

    For the people saying the Packers are a dome team thats why they lost. Thats just not true teams are not built to be dome teams or outside teams.

  109. goldrush36 says: Jan 15, 2012 11:38 PM

    Next week will be a great game for the very few of you delusional folks like Kap. “you won’t be playing a far inferior saints defense” You have to remember you aren’t playing the #32 ranked packers either. You are facing the #4 overall 2nd in pts allowed by .1 point. It’s gonna be a hell of a fight but if you think there is no chance for us on either side of the ball you’ve been drinking too much. Eli still throws picks under pressure, he had all day to throw today. Not gonna happen that way next week. 17-14 49ers

  110. buckeye044 says: Jan 15, 2012 11:39 PM

    Not sure why my post was deleted. New ID is in order, I guess.

  111. dmcgrann says: Jan 15, 2012 11:41 PM

    harleypuppy says:

    …for all you Giant fans who are gloating now remember 2007 well unless you take the Lombardi trophy home it don’t mean squat…

    ___________________________________

    I don’t understand. The Giants won the Super Bowl that was held in early 2008 (XLII) after the 2007 regular season, beating the then undefeated Patriots. A game that indeed meant “squat”. By the way, I’m not a Giant fan, but the Packers didn’t do the job today.

    And remember, punctuation is your friend if you want to put your point across. Periods and commas are all that are expected; the use of the semicolon is reserved for the fans of the better teams in the NFL.

  112. thejuddstir says: Jan 15, 2012 11:42 PM

    The Packers became…….”grilled cheese”

  113. 1historian says: Jan 15, 2012 11:45 PM

    The Packers lost because N.Y. kicked their butts from the first whistle to the last. They were never in the game – mistake after mistake. In the championship games the better teams make less mistakes, and they win.

    “8 drops, 3 fumbles. Hard for any team to overcome that.”

    True.

    8 drops, 3 fumbles – GOOD teams don’t do that. You can say forever that the Pack would win 9 out of 10 times, or some such folderol, but the game was played today. The Giants were ready to go, the Packers weren’t. This game wasn’t even close and the Pack have no one to blame but themselves.

    I am a Packers fan.

  114. 49erssuck4luck says: Jan 15, 2012 11:56 PM

    @ kappy32 says:

    Oh please, please, please keep doubting us! SI the NOT THE SAME team you are referring to the same team that lost to the Redskins a couple of weeks ago?

    Yes, you beat the Packers and thanks for doing us the favor. The Niners are not the Packers their defense leaked like a siv.

    It’ll be a knock out, slug it out game but in the end our defense will make NY one demential and send you home with your season over.

  115. zaktmt says: Jan 15, 2012 11:59 PM

    I’m perfectly okay with this result partially because I am a Vikings fan. But also because it’s refreshing to see different teams in the Super Bowl instead of having the same teams show up every year or two. Not to undermine the integrity of the players by saying that but it keeps things fresh in my mind.

  116. findmyedge says: Jan 16, 2012 12:00 AM

    No excuses. Man up and take the loss. Giants played a better game. End of story.9

  117. findmyedge says: Jan 16, 2012 12:01 AM

    No excuses. Man up and take the loss. Giants played a better game. End of story.

  118. mnfaninaz says: Jan 16, 2012 12:13 AM

    Congrats to the packers for an amazing two year run… They’re still the class of the NFC north bit that gap is closing…

    I have a ton of respect for the organization post Favre.

    Nothing to be ashamed of, he’ll of a run!

    Sincerely,
    A diehard Viking fan

  119. jnl8400 says: Jan 16, 2012 12:16 AM

    By the comments left on here I see 1 thing: The Packers fans are more humble , then say Philly and Pittsburgh’s.. Great game G men, San fran’s D however, is much better than Green Bays!

  120. cardinalscouldbeworse6666 says: Jan 16, 2012 12:18 AM

    E. Manning-Smith> Rodgers-Brees. At least this weekend. And that’s what makes the playoffs so special, and what separates football from all the lesser sports.

  121. thankheavenfornumberseven says: Jan 16, 2012 12:21 AM

    This game was a lot like when the Vikings had a lot of turnovers and lost to the Saints two years ago. Of course, the Vikings were 12-4 and lost to the 13-3 Saints, who went on to win the Super Bowl, not 15-1 losing to a mediocre 9-7 team. And the Vikings were on the road, not at home. And the Vikings took care of business by blowing out Dallas in their first playoff game, so at least they got to the conference championship. And the Vikings lost in OT instead of getting blown out. I guess it wasn’t like that one at all.

  122. truthserum4u says: Jan 16, 2012 12:22 AM

    mad1449ers says:Jan 15, 2012 10:13 PM

    I could be biased, but I believe the #1 defense is headed back to the big game….
    =====================

    But the Steelers have already been eliminated.

  123. 5212losers says: Jan 16, 2012 12:23 AM

    It was beautiful. All year, the Packer rubes have been spewing about their dynasty. They got their helmets handed to them, even with the refs helping.

    It should all be quiet in Packerland for awhile now.

    Fail.

  124. jerrykill4pres says: Jan 16, 2012 12:27 AM

    I’m waiting for the packers “owners” to come on here and say they were instructed by their owners to lose. Because GB has so many Lombardi’s, and now they want other teams to have an opportunity to catch up in that category before they decide to “turn it on” and win another one. Because they can do that, ya know…

    Personally, i think the coaching staff, TT, and the players should each write an apology letter to each and every one of their “owners” and say how much harder they will try next year. Especially since they all bought so much more stock in their beloved team! GB was glad they could get the stock out to it’s owners in time for this loss, so each and every owner had that piece of Dung paper there so they could wipe their tears with it after this loss.

  125. truthserum4u says: Jan 16, 2012 12:35 AM

    vikingprideforever says:Jan 15, 2012 10:15 PM

    reminds me of my ’98 vikings. all it took was one off night by the offense and your done. got to have some defense, maybe not the “steel curtain”, but at least some to win a championship

    —————————————

    But the Vikings lost in the NFC Championship game, by three, in overtime, with numerous injuries before and during the game with no extra help from the refs. While GB lost their first playoff game, by 17, in regulation, about as healthy as any other team at this point of the season, while the refs were handing them gifts. As far as the disappointment after a great season I would agree.

  126. discosucs2005 says: Jan 16, 2012 12:43 AM

    I have nothing against the Giants or any of their fans except Kappy. I hope every other giants fans knows how stupid Kappy is. As soon as you siting things like “destiny” you lose all credibility.

    The Giants are a fantastic team. If the 49ers lose to them, I’ll be rooting for them in the Super Bowl.

    But Kappy’s post give Giant fans a bad name.

  127. discosucs2005 says: Jan 16, 2012 12:45 AM

    @burkartsj

    Do you think it’s a talent issue? Or do you think Capers is responsible? Or both?

  128. hawkitnow says: Jan 16, 2012 12:54 AM

    discount double check

  129. The Prophet says: Jan 16, 2012 1:03 AM

    Simple this Packers team wasn’t part 2 of a dynasty. This Packers team wasn’t the culmination of Ted Thompson’s genius. This Packers team wasn’t assembling the greatest season with the greatest QB of all time.

    This game just proved that this Packers SB champ was the same as every other SB winner this past decade like the 00′ Ravens, ’07 Giants and ’05 Steelers, just a fluke wild card team that strung together wins in January to win the SB, then looked “dominant” the next season but couldn’t handle the pressure of having expectations and choked! This Packers squad is nothing special at all, despite the referee help and media hype.

  130. stonedwhitetrash says: Jan 16, 2012 1:07 AM

    The Refs should have done more to help GB like putting on GB uniforms

  131. ilovefoolsball says: Jan 16, 2012 1:25 AM

    With every ounce of carbon in my body I hope the Giants win next week.

    On one hand I always like to pull for newcomer teams that haven’t been relevant in years like the niners but the fans have really made it hard.

    So go G-men.

  132. PowerMad says: Jan 16, 2012 1:26 AM

    I hate to see an NFC North team lose, it’s clearly the best division in the league.

    The reason the Pack lost was because they the lost the turnover game. In the NFL, that’s the great equalizer.

    The Packers also played one of the easist schedules in the NFL this year. So, when they had some actual competion, they folded.

    Don’t worry, green and gold, you’ll make up for it next year!!!

  133. randygnyc says: Jan 16, 2012 1:26 AM

    Sterculius, you were surprised it wasn’t a bigger blowout? It was. The real score should have been 44-3. Between the non fumble and the ridiculous roughing the passer, those point come of the GB Scoreboard and more go up for the giants. Can’t blame the refs for trying (unless your goal is fairness)

  134. justafootballfan1 says: Jan 16, 2012 1:29 AM

    Hate the Giants, Hate the Jets infact I don’t like your city. Bunch of idiots living like rats and the sport franchises have the least classiest fan base. I am not a Packers fan or 49 ers but can’t wait to have someone shut you guys up soon cause honestly you guys are bunch of annoying
    pieces of you know what.

    Now that I have said it, go football!

  135. Mr. Wright 212 says: Jan 16, 2012 1:30 AM

    Lotta torn ACLs, high ankle sprains and pulled groins with Packer bandwagoners jumping off and pulling for SF this week.

  136. stanklepoot says: Jan 16, 2012 1:33 AM

    rexismybff says: Jan 15, 2012 10:27 PM

    “This loss doesn’t fall on Rodgers, but those were plays he made during the season. He has been sharper.”

    ======================

    Of course the loss falls on him. Two turnovers, and his team loses by 17 at home while he is mis-firing all night. Face it – he’s no Brett Favre. Brett could deal with the cold and the wind. Aaron is like Drew Brees – uncomfortable in poor weather conditions.
    ___________________________________
    The funniest thing is, so many Packer fans still want to blame Favre for that loss in 2007 (despite the fact that Favre was forced to take some chances because all of the RBs combined for a total of 32 yards that game), but they’ll fall all over themselves now to explain to you why this loss isn’t Rodgers’ fault. Funny, as soon as one of their “greatest ever” players puts on another uniform they don’t simply downgrade those players going forward, they downgrade their past that they had previously talked up as well. Don’t get me wrong, I’m not questioning Rodgers’ elite status, nor do I think the Packers organization made the wrong move going forward with Rodgers. He was clearly the better option long term. I just really hate to see fans turn on their stars just because they chose to play for another team rather than retire when their team chose to move on without them. It’s indicative of a sense of entitlement that is simply beyond all rational bounds. For us fans this is a game. For the players it’s their career. They owe us nothing but their best effort on the field.

    By the way: Congratulations to the Giants for beating both the Packers and the refs.
    Final score:
    Giants 37
    Refs 14
    Packers 6

  137. stanklepoot says: Jan 16, 2012 1:46 AM

    harleypuppy says: Jan 15, 2012 9:49 PM

    For anyone willing to listen I am a Packer fan my entire life since 1965 I have suffered through some dismal times but unless you are a real PACKER fan then you will never have the connection we have to our team you are just fans we are owners and you can never have the feeling we do for all you Giant fans who are gloating now remember 2007 well unless you take the Lombardi trophy home it don’t mean squat this is not sour grapes but I think Tom Brady and company want another shot at you and after what they did to that Bronco defense I am glad we don’t have to face them.
    __________________________
    Oh give it a rest. You’re not owners. The stock is a joke. When was the last time the “owners” made a major franchise decision? There’s a board that runs the franchise, and when they decide to retire or move on, they pick their own successors. The Packers organization runs the franchise. The only thing the “owners” get is a meeting that does nothing but carry on the illusion that the stock has any real meaning.

  138. dawkattack says: Jan 16, 2012 1:50 AM

    So Your Now Consiered Elite When You Beat A Terrible D’s. I Guess Orton Is To Since He Beat The Packs D To

  139. stanklepoot says: Jan 16, 2012 1:58 AM

    mad1449ers says: Jan 15, 2012 10:13 PM

    Defense still wins championships. Two of the three “super” offense teams that were supposed to be the anointed ones went down this week. Next week Pats will suffer the same fate, all offense and no defense=no ring.
    As far as the NFC game the team whose defense steps up will be headed to the super bowl. I could be biased, but I believe the #1 defense is headed back to the big game….
    ______________________________
    Not necessarily. When people talk about how a team’s offense or defense is rated, take it with a grain of salt and do some digging. Why? Those rankings are based solely on yards gained or given up. As for the Pats, they may have given up more yards than nearly any team (forget if they were 31st or 32nd), but when it comes to scoring, Pats were middle of the road at 15th. Personally, I’d rank defenses based on how many points they gave up, since yards given up doesn’t appear on the scoreboard. At the end of the day, neither offense nor defense wins championships. The best overall team performance does. If your offense is superb, you’re defense can have some issues. If your defense is superb, your offense can have some issues. At the end of the game, the winner will be the team whose aggregate performance on offense, defense, and special teams was better.

  140. truthserum4u says: Jan 16, 2012 2:10 AM

    Some how, some way, Packer fans will figure it just has to be Favre’s fault.

  141. tnmke says: Jan 16, 2012 2:31 AM

    The Packers DID beat themselves. They didn’t look or perform like themselves, and the Giants didn’t do anything to make that happen. The Giants just played better and made fewer mistakes.

    The Giants were the better team because the Packers played so poorly.

    Giants fans should just learn to accept a gift and worry about next week, instead of complaining that people are analyzing the game accurately.

    Yes, I am bitter and pissed off. You would be too.

  142. txnative61 says: Jan 16, 2012 2:47 AM

    This game demonstrates how difficult it is to motivate and prepare and coordinate a professional team to consistently play at a high level and peak at the right time. Coughlin has done it before, and is at it again. Harbaugh has brought the Niners to an amazing level. Next week’s game should be great! Don’t see a clear favorite. Yesterday I thought the Niners should want the Giants in Candlestick, today I think they should have been more careful what they wished for.

  143. east96st says: Jan 16, 2012 3:01 AM

    “You can bring the ’72 Dolphins out & the Giants would win.”

    I would hope so since most of those guys are in their mid-60s. Hell, I might even be able to make a play or two since I’m a “spry” 48. From one Giants fan to another, calm down, enjoy the win, and go easy on your posts.

  144. hawks49 says: Jan 16, 2012 3:47 AM

    @kappy

    Ridiculous. The Packers lost because they got dominated in every facet of the game from the first whistle to the last. No excuses whatsoever. The Giants made plays when the chance presented itself. We’re not talking about a FG win here; we’re talking about a 17 point drubbing that should have been worse had it not been for 2 horrible calls. The first one was the clear fumble by Jennings, ruled a fumble at first, overruled by a ref who was far away from the play, then somehow upheld despite conclusive evidence of a fumble; that drive ended in 7 points. The second was the terrible post-incompletion on 3rd & 10 roughing the passer call on Osi, who hit Rodgers in the side, before he was even done with his follow through; that resulted in 7 points. Take those gifts away & we are looking at a Patriots-Broncos like blow out. There was nothing the Packers could have done to win that game; the Giants were the better team.

    As for you 49ers fans who are thinking you guys will win next week, don’t get too excited. As the Packers found out today, this Giants team is NOT the same team you saw mid-season. This team is healthier than its been all year & they’re clicking on all cylinders. You aren’t playing the Saints defense on Sunday. Alex Smith looked dead for 3 1/2 quarters against a far inferior Saints defense. You’re also not playing a dome team; you’re playing a team that is used to the elements, elements far worse than winter in San Fran. You better know that every player on your team better come to play 60 minutes. If your offense takes off 2 1/2 quarters like they did yesterday, it’s going to get out of hand. Just like the Packers, the 49ers thrive off the turnover & flipping field possession; that’s not going to happen against the Giants. Destiny is on the Giants’ side… You can bring the ’72 Dolphins out & the Giants would win. Here’s a stat that you should be very afraid of… Since the merger in 1970, the Giants have played in 4 NFC Championship Games. Their record: 4-0. They just dominated the best team in football & they will not lose to a far inferior 49ers team. 2007-2008 repeated.
    —————–
    Well apparently you haven’t watched any of the 49ers games this season. The Niners take no one lightly… it is also laughable that you think we don’t have a great chance of winning the turnover battle like we have been doing all year. Your Giants turned it over to us when we played last time… the only one you got was Ginn letting a ball bounce off his face when he was wide open. Don’t go punching your ticket to the SB quite yet, you guys are hot and I’m a big fan of how you team is built but we just took out the hottest team in the league in epic fashion. We are still the most complete team left in the tournament. Should be a good game but I’m definitely giving the edge to the Niners.

    You might be 4-0 in NFC championship match ups but I believe the Niners are 5-0 in Super Bowls.

  145. maximus929 says: Jan 16, 2012 4:39 AM

    The Packers lost because Charles Woodson sucks. Always has. Always will. He’s a traitor.

  146. jonathanfesler says: Jan 16, 2012 4:59 AM

    As a life long packers fan I’m not surprised by the outcome at all! Eli is a big game QB! With great running backs and wide receivers, Defense when healthy have great pass rushers and put on the preassure! repeating is very hard in this league! Congratulations to the Giants and good luck next week!!!

  147. my84cj7 says: Jan 16, 2012 5:20 AM

    At least there was no video of Dom sleeping this year. Just a well documented Pathetic performance.

  148. nickynick04 says: Jan 16, 2012 5:39 AM

    As a Packer fan for 50 years I can honestly say this…….for whatever reason we played like crap….stank up the place, and got beat by a hungry team….the defense was horrible…..that needs to be addressed we got beat,,,no excuses…..The Giants were better….

  149. bears5683 says: Jan 16, 2012 6:36 AM

    The tragic loss of the OC’s son did have an effect on the Packers preparation and mentality. Similar to when Tony Dungy’s son passed away in 2005. The Colts who were clearly the best team throughout the season were never the same. That being said the Giants played a great game and still may have won a closer game.

  150. raiderredleg says: Jan 16, 2012 6:48 AM

    I know Reggie McKenzie comes from the Green Bay “family”, but today it was the Giants coordinators that got their players to play what I would call “Raider Football”.

    Not sure why you would pick Capers/Moss to be the Raiders next head coach after today’s performance.

    Gilbride’s offense fits the Raiders to a “T” (Al Davis has interviewed him before) and I think Mike Nolan would be a better D Coord in the long run than Winston Moss or Darren Perry (Not sure Capers will be a HC candidate much less a DC after this game).

    Heck I would even bring in Perry Fewell in for a HC interview after seeing the Giants play defense down the stretch!

  151. iluvwikileaks says: Jan 16, 2012 7:00 AM

    The dynasty that never was:)

    After getting beat by the Packers in the Super Bowl last year, all I heard was talk about how much better the Packers are as an organization than the Pittsburgh Steelers. Since, I’ve been expecting the Pack to repeat. But, hoping for some kind of defeat that would erase that smirk from Aaron Rodgers face. It happened! And, I love it!

    The Packers will NEVER catch the Steelers in Super Bowl wins! Ha!

    Thank you Eli and Giants. You completely destroyed the overrated, one hit wonder Green Bay Packers!

  152. justafanofitall says: Jan 16, 2012 7:08 AM

    Lets see….2nd time Giants beat Packers in two years at home during the playoffs. Guess they have our number.

    Seems like two games that came down to the same conclusion. We have no defense. Couldn’t stop Giants receivers (NFC Championship Harris couldn’t stop Plexico and today no one could stop Nicks and his friends).

    One thing I’m not reading….Brett threw INT in OT to lose NFC game and he was put under the bus. Aaron fumbles/INT/overthrows open guys and everyone else is put under the bus…..go figure. Aaron got frustrated when they got behind by 17 and never recovered. Not the QB Brett was yet….we’ll see. At lease Brett would have made it exciting to watch. With all the talent GB has on offense and we couldn’t score….even with the refs helping.

  153. imopen7 says: Jan 16, 2012 7:30 AM

    3 simple reasons:
    1. The Giants had more points when time expired.
    2. Those two blondes on the packers defense cant tackle(when did godell allow woman in the league?)
    3. and it hasnt gotten old yet….DISCOUNT DOUBLE CHOKE!

  154. Chuck Wood says: Jan 16, 2012 7:33 AM

    Ok… so yesterdays game was a GIANT bag of suck. I’m hung over today and disgusted by how my team played last night. What makes matters even worse- I get to work this morning and all the Packer HATERS just want to rub it in. I am trying to remain gracious in defeat. So my Packer Pride took a bad hit- WHY DOES THAT HAVE TO EXCITE PEOPLE?!? I live in the U.P. of Michigan where there are three types of football fans: Packer fans, Lion fans- and Packer haters. When the Lions lose- I don’t rub it in. They have always sucked in my lifetime- and so I think the typical Lions fan is a fairly miserable one. It seems they are let down every year after getting their hopes up. The Packers have won 2 championships in my lifetime- which I am very thankful for. But it seems like maybe being a hater brings more joy to a soul than I could have ever imagined. One guy is playing taps on his phone- and he’s not even a football fan!! A Dolphins fan had to come up and snicker at me, a Pats fan too… just waiting for Detroit fans. I’m gonna hate from now on. No matter who loses- every sport… if your team loses- I’m making fun of you just to get under your skin.

  155. locutus says: Jan 16, 2012 7:39 AM

    Don’t forget, the refs didn’t do a good enough job giving it to the Packers. They thought 14 points should suffice. Who knew?

  156. crazycane says: Jan 16, 2012 7:47 AM

    Of the NFC Championship game match up possibilities we got the worse scenario.

  157. bigbluefan1 says: Jan 16, 2012 7:58 AM

    Wow did anyone see Opie as that is what most of you call my QB run a clinic at Green Bay

    If Eli wins two more this season he will surpass his big brother.

    Eli is our QB and Tom is our Coach
    For the other 31 Teams DEAL WITH IT

    Yes we only won 9 in season but all we needed to win was 9 to make it to the dance.
    As I always say all you have to do is get to the playoff 15-1 meaning less the G-Men have taken down the biggest winners in the reg season

  158. wtfru2 says: Jan 16, 2012 8:22 AM

    Why the Packers lost……

    Sure wasn’t because of the refs!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  159. purplepride4ever says: Jan 16, 2012 8:24 AM

    Bottom line is the Packers choked and beat themselves with turnovers and dropped passes. Now the Packers have plenty of time to do State Farm discount double check commercials…..I mean double choke commercials!

    Go Vikings!!!!!

  160. charlutes says: Jan 16, 2012 8:25 AM

    Let me understand, you write an article titled why the packers lost, and u don’t even mention 3 lost fumbles and a pick….pretty sure that was the biggest factor of the game.

  161. bspurloc says: Jan 16, 2012 8:36 AM

    .
    FYI
    Giants should have beat them in the regular season meeting……

  162. thrstr says: Jan 16, 2012 8:38 AM

    silly Giants fans, just be glad you don’t have to play the Redskins again, -2011 sweep! nice job taking out the paaaackers though.

  163. fwippel says: Jan 16, 2012 8:38 AM

    The Packers lost for several reasons, but in summary, they couldn’t over come four turnovers, a poor defense, and several dropped passes.

    The result of this game shouldn’t have surprised anyone. Eli Manning may still have a baby face, but the kid is as rock solid in the clutch as any QB in the league. The Packers aren’t going to win a Super Bowl with this defense; they need to get better.

    Truth is, it was a couple of very bad calls by the refs that kept the final score from being 40-13 or 44-13. The Giants dominated this game.

    I get the feeling that next week’s matchup at Candlestick is going to end up being an instant classic.

  164. snoilog says: Jan 16, 2012 8:52 AM

    Maybe because the Ref’s didn’t try hard enough

    GO G-MEN

    GO LIONS!!!

  165. iluvbears says: Jan 16, 2012 8:59 AM

    Regarding why the Packers lost this game, alaHomer Simpson-

    “They just plain sucked! I’ve seen teams suck before, but they were the suckiest bunch of sucks that ever sucked.”

    And thanks to Nelson Muntz for letting me share my feelings about this EPIC PACKER LOSS – “HA! HA!”

  166. The Prophet says: Jan 16, 2012 9:11 AM

    The Packers DID beat themselves. They didn’t look or perform like themselves, and the Giants didn’t do anything to make that happen. The Giants just played better and made fewer mistakes.

    The Giants were the better team because the Packers played so poorly.
    ——————————————–
    There’s a word in sports for that, its called “choking”

  167. lioncrazy says: Jan 16, 2012 9:17 AM

    I don’t know if the long time away from playing hurt Rodgers but, I do know the G-Men D kept him moving around a lot which, is a better reason for the inconsistant passing. Add the fumbles and Giant clutch plays and that is the result you get, a Whoopin!

  168. vikingdoode says: Jan 16, 2012 9:23 AM

    Because refs couldn’t be so obvious by handing the game to them

  169. myeaglescantwin says: Jan 16, 2012 9:24 AM

    easy Giants,, remember, you just limped into the playoffs. No ones handing you the trophy yet. You’ll have to beat a team with a defense first.

    Now i would usually hate on she-ELI,, but that guy went out there and won that game for his team. Nice win NY

  170. joetoronto says: Jan 16, 2012 9:26 AM

    Remember the look Brett Favre had on his face when the game was on the line and the Pack needed to score?

    I didn’t see that look on Rodgers face yesterday. Hell, I’ve NEVER seen it on Rodgers.

  171. Little Earthquake says: Jan 16, 2012 9:40 AM

    It was a great job by the Giants, and a poor showing by the Packers. Family came first this week in Green Bay.

    A lot of sore “winners” around here – mostly fans of teams other than the G-Men it seems. You know, fans of teams that have never won squat!

    Good luck, Giants…should be a great game in SF this weekend. Would way rather lose to you guys than Chicago, Minn, Detroit, or Dallas.

  172. hystoracle says: Jan 16, 2012 9:48 AM

    The penalty against the Giants near the end of the game wasn’t for helmet-to-helmet. It was for a blow to the head. Either way it was a bad call. He was hit in the mid section and flew head first into the other defender who was just standing there after being blocked. Horrid call led to Packers TD. momentarily giving them life.

    When the air turns cold it is harder to catch the ball. Ball gets harder and slicker. Especially after the sun goes down. The “greatest show on turf” played indoors. Both high flying offenses got bounced this weekend.

    Giants played hard and ran the ball. Scored more points and were better team on Sunday. Over reliance on the passing game finally caught up to the packers.

  173. snoop24 says: Jan 16, 2012 10:19 AM

    Easy equation. No running game + No defense means loss in the playoffs. They will not be able win without those things.

  174. goddamnthatsfunny says: Jan 16, 2012 10:19 AM

    So glad the Packers got beat! The Chiefs ruined their perfect season and the Giants ruined their playoffs…now their fans can buy more bogus stock!

  175. jerrykill4pres says: Jan 16, 2012 10:24 AM

    “Go, Pack, Go!”… Well they did… The “Packers Employees” went and took a big old dump in Lambeau field yesterday… Maybe the “owners” need to change their chant from the stands.

    What’s funny is.. Yesterday the “owners” were booing the team off the field at halftime.. How can an “owner” sit there and boo their employees off the field at halftime? Why didn’t each and everyone one of them grab their worthless piece of paper they call “stock” and then run down to the locker room and give their employeess a lil pep talk or start firing them!?!? They are “owners” ya know…

    Alot of delusional Packer fans out there. If you bought stock for nostalgic reasons, (like i did), well, understandable.. But to sit and say stuff like “we”, “family”, “we are owners”, and things like that, just make you sound like you will be the next one in an institution.

    Good thing this “company” isn’t publically traded on the CBOT, or NYSE…. Could you imagine how that stock would have tanked today? HA HA

  176. starderup says: Jan 16, 2012 10:47 AM

    Dear Green Bay,
    Now you know how we felt last year.
    Sincerely,
    Atlanta

  177. starderup says: Jan 16, 2012 10:49 AM

    I didn’t see any mention of the fumble that was as plain as day, yet the guy under the hood didn’t see it.
    Amazing. And they wonder why there are jokes about their eyesight. It is one thing to miss it in real time, and a whole nother story when you can watch it over and over in slow motion.
    Boggles the mind.

  178. packerbadger says: Jan 16, 2012 10:57 AM

    Only thing worse than a poor loser is a poor winner. Yes, we have lots of those here today. I’ll be here rubbing it in to the giants fans next week after 49ers give giants a good beat down.

  179. blasterpastor says: Jan 16, 2012 11:05 AM

    Of COURSE the Packers lost! I picked them (and so did every sportswriter alive)! Out of four games, I picked three losers. Stay tuned… Next week, I’m picking the Giants and the Patriots!

  180. fresno500 says: Jan 16, 2012 11:48 AM

    Not enough ref-power?

  181. naturalwonders says: Jan 16, 2012 11:52 AM

    So much for the “new NFL”; you know, the one sportswriters have been prattling about, about how it’s all about the “high-flying offenses” these days, and you can get by with a mediocre defense. Tell that to the Packers and Saints!

  182. mightymightylafootball says: Jan 16, 2012 12:02 PM

    harleypuppy says:
    Jan 15, 2012 9:49 PM
    For anyone willing to listen I am a Packer fan my entire life since 1965 I have suffered through some dismal times but unless you are a real PACKER fan then you will never have the connection we have to our team you are just fans we are owners and you can never have the feeling we do for all you Giant fans who are gloating now remember 2007 well unless you take the Lombardi trophy home it don’t mean squat this is not sour grapes but I think Tom Brady and company want another shot at you and after what they did to that Bronco defense I am glad we don’t have to face them.

    *~*~*~*~*~*~*

    Good gravey, sir.

    By your own description, you’re at least 46 years old (and probably older than that). You wrote a 116 word, run-on single sentence all jammed into one paragraph.

    Well, it may or may not be sour grapes, but it’s a train wreck nonetheless…

  183. threedeep1998 says: Jan 16, 2012 12:08 PM

    No more annoying Wayne Larivee highlight calls.

    “Rodgers hands off to Grant up the middle and OH MY GOD! A two yard gain! Dagger!”

    pathetic tight end, dom capers can’t draw up a defensive plan to save his life, and refs can’t bail you out all the time. Packer fans (trolls, not the legit fans) will be silent from here for a long long time. Thank god.

  184. just4given says: Jan 16, 2012 12:25 PM

    “danielcp0303 says:
    Jan 15, 2012 9:28 PM
    I’d like to hear from Packers fans as to why the defense isn’t like it was last season. I only watched 3 games of theirs this season, so maybe they can give some better insight.”

    In my opinion, there are a couple of issues that plagued this defense this season. It starts right up front. While Cullen Jenkins may not be a Pro Bowler, the remnants of the d-line struggled to put pressure on the qb. Matthews was double-teamed at will – and at times they’d add a back to that mix to chip him.

    With no legitimate pass rush, the secondary was exposed. Woodson was a year older. I think it may be time to find a high profile corner and move Woodson to safety. The loss of Collins was also a blow to the secondary.

  185. just4given says: Jan 16, 2012 12:37 PM

    I said after the NFC Championship Game against the Giants and it warrants repeating. We have a troll roaming the sidelines that is absolutely clueless when it comes to game management. Had it not been for the blocked field goal after the mindless first half onside kick, the weight of the coaching advantage would have tilted even heavier in favor of the Giants. Going for a first down on 4th and 5 was insane, given the fact that the defensive woes were more pronounced on a short field all day long. Your defense had given you two straight three-and-outs. Force the Giants to drive the length of the field rather than putting your defnse’s back to the wall.

  186. whyalwaysthehate says: Jan 16, 2012 1:06 PM

    Rodgers missed on 20 passes and ran for 65 yards. That’s what happens when a team runs into a good defense.

    Maybe everyone underrated the Chiefs defense at the end of the year.

  187. iamwhodat says: Jan 16, 2012 1:13 PM

    I know this season isn’t over yet, but man you will have two hungry and pissed of teams next season (Saints a nd Packers). Good luck to the remaining teams in the playoffs, 2012 is shaping up to be the year of the pissed of team.

  188. 1nittanyjimbo says: Jan 16, 2012 1:42 PM

    I’m not that familiar with contracts but often wonder if play would be different (I’ve seen enough bad plays, bad play calling, and bad execution over the past two weeks), if the player(s) or the coach(es) responsible, were fined by the team. I don’t know who would make the determination but you got to remember these guys play for money.

    I you see a running back who gets to the line of scrimmage and stops dead or runs right into the back of his 300 pound, 7 foot tall blocker, that guy should loose some money! Or the blocker who lets “his man” go blowing right by and gets his QB creamed. Or the WR who gets hit right in the chest with the ball and drops it. The K who lines up wrong (I’ve seen this twice in two weeks resulting in two missed FGs.

    Or from the coaching side, we’re not going to put pressure on the QB, we’re going to control the line with our 3 or 4 man rush, put seven or 8 men in zones (which generally means that 4 guys aren’t doing anything) and then wonder why the heck they completed an 80 yarder to tie it up or go ahead. There are plenty more, just look.

  189. koenig61 says: Jan 16, 2012 2:46 PM

    WOW that was a terrific article breaking down every facet of the Packers loss. Why isnt this done for every team? Where was the breakdown of why the Steelers lost to Denver? The part about Roethlisberger being injured, pouncey being out, losing Max Starks during the game, not having Ryan Clark, Hampton and Kiesel going down in the first half?

    Or lets have an article about the reason how the Texans lost. 3rd string starting QB, Mario Williams being out, Hell lets break down every game.

    This Breakdown of the Packers loss was a bit overblown. Bottom line Packers didnt play very well, and more importantly the Giants did play well.

    Same for the Broncos, despite all of the Steeler players out, the Broncos played better. Despite having a 3rd string QB the Texans had their chances.

    PFT you went overboard to appease the Packer fanbase.

  190. tony53220 says: Jan 16, 2012 3:39 PM

    Why the Packers lost? I’ll tell you why the bums lost. They lost because only, HMMM…….. lets say about 5 players came to play yesterday cause they love the game as i do and the rest of the players came just because they have to so they can get paid. I am 31 and have been a loyal Packer fan since 5yrs old when my uncle introduced me to the game of football. Since that day i loved my home team which is the GreenBay Packers. I don’t just not love my team anymore, but the Nfl has made me lose love for the game and my team.AND A 26yr loyal fan is not a bandwagon jumper when they have finally had enough after 26yrs.Why i hate the Nfl and my team & why the Packers lost? Loving the game of football i played immediately when i could. In High School i had all the fundamentals and all the knowledge to make a great player. But what did the game turn into at that time? A game in which i did not matter even with all my knowledge and all my athleticism because what mattered is what kind of historical background you could bring to the team or what your parents gave to the school. And those are the kids that played cause they got the attention for those reasons and those are the people in the Nfl right now who play just to get a check, not because they love the game. Thats why the packers lost. I played in Milwaukee Wi in High School for the Milwaukee Tech Trojans. We had a player named Michael Bennett. The teachers would fix his grades, he’d skip school all day and sit outside and smoke weed and where does he end up, in the Nfl just because his uncle is former Packer player Tony Bennett and because they can use him to get the school attention cause of that and he could run fast. And where is he now, well lets just say i made a joke a couple weeks ago because i saw a guy on the sidelines during the packers vs Raiders game hiding his face in a hooded sweatshirt that looked just like him, not hurt but on the sidelines cause he sucks and again this is what they let into the Nfl now. Not players that love the game. Those players were left behind in High School with all their talent because their parents didn’t have enough money to give the school or didn’t have a historical background. And if you did make it without those reasons then it was either cause you were lucky to get noticed one day when the coach wasn’t catering to a guy who’s parents just donated the school 5grand,or because the coach was being racist and only watching you cause you were african american and they’d figure you’d be better at sports.Not my opinion, but it was the opinions of my coaches.But again thats why the Packers lost. Cause my generation of players are playing and they care about nothing but money and can care a less for the game. Lets hope to see the Ravens win so we can actually see a man that loves the game in Ray Lewis, on the field with his whole family being a real man yet still crying in happiness due to all the work he’s put in over his life not just in the nfl but since a child, and watch him hold that trophy with pride. A trophy named after a coach who would of walked off the field at halftime due to the packers patheticness yesterday and stopped coaching till a new generation of players came in. Damn players will play on the browns if they offered them enough money and be happy just to be making money not caring their team never wins anything.

  191. tony53220 says: Jan 16, 2012 4:07 PM

    I was at this game yesterday and the other reason we lost is the pathetic fans. All these fans are now are a bunch of little rich punks who inheritated their tickets from their dad or grandfather and they go just to try and show off cause they know how hard it is to get a ticket. As i tried saying before. All game all you hear is a guy screaming across you sayin, “Hey were going to Curly’s at halftime we do it every week you know cause we have season tickets”. Seriously dude was all that needed. Im trying to watch a game and have season tickets to, Do you really got to try showing off. Oh and dont let me forget the bar bum women who the guys just slept with the night before and you see them at the game and even on tv making our state look like trash. The stadium volume was about like 10bd i swear to god. And seriously the only time these bums would cheer is when we got to the 20 and were gonna maybe score or when the giants were gonna score and we needed the defense to stop them. No cheering your team up the field giving em confidence to score and it’s been like this for the past like 7yrs. Im telling you this is a new packers generation and they are going to lose all the mystique they ever had.Makes me sad cause as a 26yr loyal fan im done

  192. 97tahoe says: Jan 16, 2012 4:22 PM

    Why the Packers lost; I know why…..

    Because when the game ended, the Giant’s had scored more points then the Packer’s.

  193. jhtobias says: Jan 16, 2012 10:31 PM

    Whyy us lion fan on this post or any post that has to do with real football .. You play in a dome , you have a match up this week for the arena bowl title against the saints on sunday.. Lions fan paid the refs off on the joe webb play.

  194. lookatthefarside says: Jan 16, 2012 10:41 PM

    Packers stock= Rough toilet paper

  195. tluke25 says: Jan 16, 2012 11:43 PM

    Why the Packers lost?

    Um, because they spent too much time filming “Discount Double Check” commercials.

  196. tluke25 says: Jan 16, 2012 11:49 PM

    Eli Manning: All. He. Does. Is. Win.
    —————-

    I like that. He said he was elite at the beginning of the season and people laughed at him. The poise, decision making, and throws I seen Sunday had me saying “Wow”.

  197. packerbacker12 says: Jan 17, 2012 12:07 AM

    The dynasty that never was:)

    “After getting beat by the Packers in the Super Bowl last year, all I heard was talk about how much better the Packers are as an organization than the Pittsburgh Steelers. Since, I’ve been expecting the Pack to repeat. But, hoping for some kind of defeat that would erase that smirk from Aaron Rodgers face. It happened! And, I love it!

    The Packers will NEVER catch the Steelers in Super Bowl wins! Ha!

    Thank you Eli and Giants. You completely destroyed the overrated, one hit wonder Green Bay Packers!”

    It was even better watching the Steelers get knocked out by Tim Tebow.

  198. grannyvi4 says: Jan 17, 2012 1:10 AM

    to tnmke: “The Giants were the better team because the Packers played so poorly.”

    Um, no. The Giants were the better team because….they were the better team.

  199. teamnorsecore says: Jan 17, 2012 2:05 AM

    tony53220 says:
    Jan 16, 2012 4:07 PM
    I was at this game yesterday and the other reason we lost is the pathetic fans. All these fans are now are a bunch of little rich punks who inheritated their tickets from their dad or grandfather and they go just to try and show off cause they know how hard it is to get a ticket. As i tried saying before. All game all you hear is a guy screaming across you sayin, “Hey were going to Curly’s at halftime we do it every week you know cause we have season tickets”. Seriously dude was all that needed. Im trying to watch a game and have season tickets to, Do you really got to try showing off. Oh and dont let me forget the bar bum women who the guys just slept with the night before and you see them at the game and even on tv making our state look like trash. The stadium volume was about like 10bd i swear to god. And seriously the only time these bums would cheer is when we got to the 20 and were gonna maybe score or when the giants were gonna score and we needed the defense to stop them. No cheering your team up the field giving em confidence to score and it’s been like this for the past like 7yrs. Im telling you this is a new packers generation and they are going to lose all the mystique they ever had.Makes me sad cause as a 26yr loyal fan im done
    ……
    Tony…..I have been a Vikings fan my entire life…..through all the ups and downs…..BIG downs!! I had never taken in a game at Lambeau until this year. A friend of mine is a big Pack fan and he scored some tickets for the Vikes-Pack game this year and asked me to go. I was stoked!!! I couldn’t wait to put on my AP jersey and proudly cheer for my Vikes at Lambeau. I arrived at one of the parking lots to tailgate, expecting to talk football with Pack fans……talk history of our teams rivalry and talk a little trash of course. I WAS ABSOLUTELY SHOCKED that no one said ANYTHING to me. All there was was a bunch of 20-30 year old kids running around with rap music playing, dancing around getting drunk and smoking weed. My friend and I walked all over to almost all the lots and it was all the same…..it was like none of these punks were there for the game besides all their Rodgers and Matthews jerseys. No one would even smack talk to me……there wasn’t much for me to cheer for with the Vikes that game, but I stood and screamed and cheered for the Vikes throughout the game and no one even cared…..and I heard exactly what you talked about several times…..”Hey lets go to BDubs after the game”….Hey, are you guys partying at Jims later”…its like the game was just an afterthought!! I was shocked…..I was expecting a much more football fan environment, but it was like the Pack fans didn’t even care what was going on out on the field or that they were kicking the snot out of a huge division rival!! I hate watching games at the Humpydump…..bad football stadium…..but dare I say……at least a guy can get some football smack talk or football conversation in general going there!!! It was a weird experience at Lambeau for me, definitely not what I expected. Packer fans who hate Viking fans…….go ahead and tear apart my comment because I am sure you can’t stand it but it is the truth and what I experienced!!

  200. scott1schotts says: Jan 17, 2012 3:03 AM

    Every Recent good playoff team has had a dominate play maker safty. Ravens, Steelers, Cardinals, Giants, Colts, Saints and last year Packers. (INT-TD-Superbowl)
    With 3 time all pro secondary signal caller and defensive leader Nick Collins on IR as of week 2 this season saw the Packer secondary fall to 32nd. Rookie Burnett first full year off IR and Back Up Peperah togeather did not have the big play safty skills or experience of Collins. Without a quick rush tackle to close the pocket by the loss of Jenkins from last year, Matthews was double teamed. The hole in the Packer defense was exploited. If Collins is forced to retire, Woodson may be moved to fill Safety hole and Ted Thompson will shop for another cover corner and draft for the pass rush to win in the playoffs and McCarthy, Rogers and Packers will get second ring.

  201. bealeman says: Jan 17, 2012 6:15 AM

    #1. The Giants made the Pack punt once so ease up on all this ‘dominating’ defense talk. Add to that tons of 3rd down drops and overthrows. Our guys were open often people; they simply didn’t make the plays.

    #2. Three Giant TDs were setup by the Packers!

    #3. The Packers won the time of possession battle; should’ve been a much closer game.

    #3. The Giants PLAYED BETTER than the Packers; that’s why the Packers lost.

    #4. Time to take a break and see how many new starters on Defense we can round up for next year!

  202. justafanofitall says: Jan 17, 2012 9:58 AM

    Just some stats:

    Aaron is 3-18 when losing in the 4th quarter. As stated by one observer….you never see that look on Aarons face when behind like you did on Bretts.

    Aaron is 4-2 in postseason after 4 season as starter. Brett 9-4 after first six season….will Aaron catch up. He still has big shoes to fill.

    Why we lost…..had nothing to do with 6 dropped passes (giants had their own). We didn’t have that killer instinct, poor defense all year and a QB that never had the guys convinced they could win in whatever situation like Brett always did.

    Say what you want about BRett (and leave out the personnal stuff…they all have baggage)…Aaron has a ways to go to be the total package like QB’s like Brett, Brady, Young, Montana etc. But with all the talent around him why isn’t he?

  203. captaintriumph says: Jan 17, 2012 11:37 AM

    Pack lost because they played bad. Real bad. The score would have been even worse had the Jennings fumble been called and the non-late hit on Rogers not been called. Say what you want about Favre, or the Vikings for that matter…but when they had their best teams they never got blown out.

  204. piedpiper15 says: Jan 17, 2012 11:41 AM

    Sunday’s game was probably the worst game I have watched the Packers play all year Tony ! …However during their history making run this year it always troubled me that no more emphasis was placed on correcting the defense in ability to stop most of their opponents. I commented several times to my son that if I were the secondary coach for the packers the secondary group would have been running their butts off every week until they learned how to tackle an offensive player by making the hit , then wrapping them up , …that the basic fundamentals of playing defense. Dom Capers elected to have his secondary go for the strip instead of what he should have demanded from them , wrapping the ball carrier , tight end or whoever had the ball , …..UP !!!!
    I grew up during the Lombardi era and I could hear his words echoing all during this game , …” Grab , grab , grab !!! ” I guarantee had he been coaching the Packers on Sunday he would not have tolerated this lackluster performance from his defense ! ….Hey and (3) fumbles that really should have been (4) and (8) dropped passes didn’t help either ! Give credit where credit is due , …The Giants were ready to play , totally out-played the Packers on Sunday and deserve to be advancing to play the Niners in the NFC Championship game this Sunday !

  205. snowpea84 says: Jan 17, 2012 4:59 PM

    THeres alot of talk about Eli outplaying Rodgers on here. Eli played well, but when its clear that the Packers receivers were playing poorly, how can that be put on rodgers. He found open guys, he ran for third down conversions. He did alot of things right that arent going to show up because of drops, etc.

  206. tatum064 says: Jan 18, 2012 7:55 AM

    maximus929 says:
    Jan 16, 2012 4:39 AM
    The Packers lost because Charles Woodson sucks. Always has. Always will. He’s a traitor.
    ===========

    NFL Defensive Player of the Year.
    Heisman Trophy Winner
    Super Bowl Champion
    First ballot HOF

    It’s not his fault, if the Raiders didnt sign him, and I’m a Raider fan, and Ron Wolf was a Raider – they knew talent when they saw it.

  207. yesimfromwisconsin says: Jan 22, 2012 8:58 AM

    The Packers lost in large part because they didn’t think that defeat was a realistic possibility. Most of us Cheeseheads were guilty of the same arrogance. You can analyze the individual performances and the various intangibles all you want in search of reasons/excuses. Have fun. The Giants are a very good football team. They played a good game. They won. Congratulations to Tom Coughlin and his players.
    And to all you Packer fans who are blogging/commenting that “so and so” sucks and that “so and so” ought to be fired, please go and find another team to root for. Yes, the Packers do have some needs to be addressed. But your weasley whining in the aftermath of a big loss is just sour grapes. Very bush league.

  208. daknight93 says: Jan 22, 2012 5:44 PM

    They lost because of bad defense and lack of running game…Giants were just better team that day

  209. toolkien says: May 11, 2012 3:30 PM

    Why the Packers lost? 4 turnovers. It began and ended there.

    In the last 20 years, in the playoffs, 71 times (out of 440 opponents – 11 games x 2 opponents x 20 years) did a team have 4 or more turnovers. Only THREE times did the team with 4 or more turnovers WIN the game, and one time BOTH teams had 4 turnovers so one had to win and the other lose. So out of the 69 times a team had 4+ turnovers, only TWICE did the team win the game. Both times it was Tennessee – in 1999 and 2002.

    So if you turn the ball over 4 times, don’t expect to win the game regardless of what else you do. Everything else is a reason way the Packers didn’t lose by a smaller margin.

    During 2011 these are some salient points about the Packers –

    ALL REGULAR SEASON GAMES -

    411 – defensive yards per game
    0.9 – average giveaways by Packers
    12.6 – average margin of victory
    15-1 – regular season record

    ALL REGULAR SEASON GAMES AGAINST PLAYOFF CALIBER TEAMS –

    423 – defensive yards per game
    1.0 – average giveaways by Packers
    10.7 – average margin of victory
    6-0 – regular season record against playoff teams

    IN THE PLAYOFF AGAINST GIANTS

    420 – defensive yards per game
    4.0 – giveaways by Packers
    -17.0 – margin of loss
    0-1 – 2011 post season record

    The dropped passes leading to punts and turn over on downs didn’t help, but the game was effectively lost when the Packers kept turning the ball over, taking it out of the hands of the prolific offense and handing it to the other team. The D gave up a lot of yards, but they also took the ball away alot. But that only works when the O does its job. The only difference that mattered was going from an average of 1 turnover a game against playoff teams to 4, especially given the first part of this comment. Historically, you just aren’t going to win with that many turnovers.

  210. toolkien says: May 11, 2012 3:37 PM

    The Packers took the ball away a lot in the regular season, I meant to say. The Packers live on the turnover margin and have done pretty well with it. It stood them in good stead in 2010. In 2009 and 2011, they turned the ball over a lot in the playoffs and lost in the first game both times. In 2010, a +6 turnover margin going 4-0, in 2009 and 2011, a -5 turnover margin going 0-2. Nine of the last 12 Super Bowl winners won the playoff turnover margin, the other 3 of 12 were won by the team who were #2 in turnover margin. If you give the ball away a ton somewhere in the playoffs, that will wash you out and nothing much else is going to matter. Maybe every once in a long while a strange circumstance will go against the statistics, but it will merely be the exception to prove the rule. The Packers have been the best team in the league in regular season turnover margin. They just didn’t sustain that potency come the playoffs and it bit them in the behind.

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