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I’ve complained in the past about the current procedure for conducting replay reviews.  The time-consuming (but necessary) process becomes only more cumbersome when it’s done on the field, with the referee walking to the sidelines, donning the Dukakis headset, talking to the replay assistant, eventually getting under the hood of the on-field replay machine, watching the replay from various angles, emerging from under the hood, wasting more time talking to the replay assistant or other officials or one of the coaches, and then finally announcing the outcome and getting on with the game.

For that reason alone, the NFL should move the replay system upstairs, like it used to be when replay review first was used by pro football in the 1980s.

After Sunday’s division-round playoff between the Giants and the Packers, there’s another reason to take the decision upstairs.  Referee Bill Leavy made an obvious mistake when failing to conclude that Packers receiver Greg Jennings had lost possession of the ball before his knee or shin hit the ground.  Regardless of the reason for the wrong ruling, the on-field officials already have enough to deal with.  It’s better to staff the replay booth with the resources to make the decisions quickly and efficiently, without the goofy dog-and-pony show and in the kind of environment in which clear errors can’t be made.

Why not take it a step farther and find a way to involve the league office in each decision, like the NHL apparently does?

Regardless, the current system wastes too much time and, based on today’s example, isn’t working.  For a league that constantly strives to find ways to do things better, this would be a great place to make some improvements.

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  1. pudgalvin says: Jan 15, 2012 9:25 PM

    “like the NHL apparently does.”

    Why do you have to be such a hater of all things not football, Mike?

  2. fumblenuts says: Jan 15, 2012 9:26 PM

    “League needs to take replay review out of referee’s hands.”

    Then us fans can vote on the play in question on line at home!

  3. jaggedmark says: Jan 15, 2012 9:28 PM

    They need to take the ruling upstairs, and they need to take whoever made today’s ruling (to the unemployment line).

  4. jaggedmark says: Jan 15, 2012 9:29 PM

    “League needs to take replay review out of referee’s hands.”

    Then us fans can vote on the play in question on line at home!
    —————————————–
    Yeah, I’m sure there would be no bias by the fans.

  5. saintsfan1111 says: Jan 15, 2012 9:30 PM

    IMO, certain penalties need to be reviewed…that late hit on Rogers was ridiculous. His head was not touched…

  6. hus10188 says: Jan 15, 2012 9:30 PM

    I thought it was very fishy that Buck and Aikman other than the moment it was overturned never ever referred to that joke of a call at all throughout the rest of the game, as well as no further replays. That was blatant as hell and all they want to talk about is everything but the refs call, seemed like they were part of the conspiracy.

    Gotta say I was so infuriated with that call,

  7. bigks77 says: Jan 15, 2012 9:31 PM

    Agree

  8. bc01red says: Jan 15, 2012 9:33 PM

    Two horrible calls in the playoffs, could of cost a team a loss. Still need an explanation on that fumble.

  9. thetruth619 says: Jan 15, 2012 9:34 PM

    The concerning part is that we expect these officials to get calls on the field right in a split second when they seem to have a difficult time getting them right even with replay.

  10. capers8 says: Jan 15, 2012 9:35 PM

    Completely agree that the replay system needs to be moved upstairs. And that Greg Jennings call was absurd. http://www.thepowerwire.com

  11. rubberinnertube says: Jan 15, 2012 9:36 PM

    Joe Buck is a piece of garbage. I would be happy to never hear him broadcast another game…ever!

  12. hus10188 says: Jan 15, 2012 9:36 PM

    I thought it was very fishy that Buck and Aikman other than the moment it was overturned never ever referred to that joke of a call at all throughout the rest of the game, as well as no further replays. That was blatant as hell and all they want to talk about is everything but the refs call, seemed like they were part of the conspiracy.

    Gotta say I was so infuriated with that call, that even with Hakeem Nicks spectacular hail mary TD catch I didn’t even muster a celebration as I thought the refs were going to cook up a plan to prevent us winning in the 2nd half.

    And don’t get me started on that Osi helmet to helmet penalty……..

  13. sdisme says: Jan 15, 2012 9:37 PM

    They also need to get rid of all booth reviews and give Coaches 4 challenges.

    Official in the booth know the rules too well and look for stupid rules. Without booth reviews we still may have never heard of the “Tuck Rule” or “Going to the Ground”

  14. nesuperfan says: Jan 15, 2012 9:37 PM

    But it is OK, the league will admit their mistakes on Tuesday, after the game is already in the books. (sarcasm)

  15. badtimeoutcaldwell says: Jan 15, 2012 9:38 PM

    I swear sometimes its so clear after 1 replay what the call should be… But therea like a 7 minute delay by the time the ref jogs over and does the dog and pony show… The system needs to change. Most replayscan and should be clearly decided within 30 seconds

  16. braven4evr says: Jan 15, 2012 9:39 PM

    They also should review ruffing the passer calls. The officials definitely screwed the Giants on that call against Tuck

  17. stairwayto7 says: Jan 15, 2012 9:45 PM

    Do not let the refs make the decision! Either have 3 reply officials upstairs who can buzz at any time to review it, they make the call and let the ref know. Or have people at the league office watch games and make the call. You can’t trust alot of these refs!

  18. buffalodiehard says: Jan 15, 2012 9:46 PM

    Or they could just get rid of Bill Leavy.

  19. stampnhawk says: Jan 15, 2012 9:52 PM

    NHL’s model is ideal where the league office is watching every game at all times, and is ready to make judgments on scoring plays, so when the ref starts talking to him, they know the call.

    In the NFL, in the time it takes the ref to waddle to the sideline to put on the headset and look at the screen, the next Mike Perreria’s (not him exactly, his ego wouldn’t fit in the replay room) of the NFL replay head office has seen 3 angles and can tell the ref what the call is, and still have time too to give him the ref an earful to tell the official that blew the call to smarten up.

  20. beeronthefridge says: Jan 15, 2012 9:56 PM

    There has to be a referee on the booth with the power to call and overrule penalties, fumbles etc. In other words the main referee.

    Referees should be required to post a one million bond before they can officiate. Missed/overruled penalties will result in an automatic $50,000 fine on the refs. When the bond money runs out – 20 goofs in a season – the referees are suspended without pay from the league for the remainder of the season and the next season.

    Two or more goofs in the playoffs should result in automatic banishment from the league and all pay confiscated by the league.

  21. Deb says: Jan 15, 2012 9:57 PM

    “The Dukakis headset” … hysterical! Wish you’d run a photo of that :)

    Yes!!! Goodell has let six seasons pass since SBXL without making any effort to improve officiating. His recent “reinterpretation” of the hitting rules has only made an already flawed system less functional–as evidenced by Leavy’s call tonight on Umenyiora.

    Officiating can be significantly improved, beginning with removing replay responsibility from field officials, as you’ve suggested. Please keep harping on this issue, Mike. Unless officiating can be trusted, all Goodell’s talk about the integrity of the game is just empty hot air.

  22. johnnyshore says: Jan 15, 2012 9:59 PM

    “Then us fans can vote on the play in question on line at home!”

    What a laughable statement. If that were the case, the Packers would win every call because of all their idiot lazy fans who spend hours online. Every judgement would go their way 1000-1. I mean, look at the pro bowl voting. It was completely skewed towards the packers because their rabid and blind fan base voted every Packer multiple times, even the ones who didn’t deserve it like B.J. Raji, who had 10 TACKLES all season. Raji is garbage, and his being on the squad is evidence of the prevalence of Green Bay fans being obnoxious, ignorant, and biased.

  23. ballsohard1130 says: Jan 15, 2012 10:10 PM

    I’d be all for someone up top looking at a replay and making correct calls, but as we saw from the Giants Packers game, even when you slow it down and give them a step by step replay, the refs can’t even get a fumble call right.

    So can we really trust anyone to make a “judgement call”

  24. darkstar77 says: Jan 15, 2012 10:16 PM

    NFL should use the College Football
    System. Those replays are finalized within a minute by the booth. College football should not be light years ahead of NFL when it comes to replays.

  25. szwhtsup123 says: Jan 15, 2012 10:17 PM

    Absolutely true – the current system is clearly not working as evidenced by the Saints/9′ers game and then again tonight in the Pack/Giants game. Since EVERYTHING is about MONEY these days maybe the league can get away from telling the refs who they want to be in the big games since it will SELL more EVERYTHING, and really let the teams play it out and see who wins fair and square. Forget the fans voting, give the decisions to a nuetral, credible source and take the marketing and MONEY out of everything for once! C’mon this is such a great game, STOP!

  26. rugdaniels says: Jan 15, 2012 10:17 PM

    GMen beat the Packers and the officals tonight. Not the first game terrible calls went against them either. That they beat Green Bay so soundly is a testament to how well the Giants really played tonight.

  27. mlemay896 says: Jan 15, 2012 10:19 PM

    Problem is the ref union is so strong or half of these ref’s would be collecting unemployment. Reason to take the calls out of the system and go to the booth where 3 people view and majority rules is:
    1. Takes bribes off the radar, and it did happen before in other sports…
    2. Keeps ref’s safe from some fan who just lost their houses from someone who has a betting problem from harming a ref for a bad call that cost a team the game
    3. It is long over due, the NHL makes the right call 99% of the time by going to the league office in Toronto which takes approximatly 30 seconds.

    This is crazy that the ref union is so strong that the league is scared to do the right thing.

  28. deconjonesbitchslap says: Jan 15, 2012 10:20 PM

    no the league just needs to stop its obvious favoritism towards the packers:

    here are the 3 terrible calls:

    *jennings fumble

    *the 3rd down spot of Bradshaw’s run. it was CLEARLY a first down. they spot it an entire yard short.

    *the personal foul for helmet to helmet. BS. he wasn’t even close to the helmet. that was as legal as you can do if you’re rushing the QB.

    those 3 were so blatant in their bias towards the packers. so sick of it. for years the packers have been the beneficiary of terrible calls.

  29. mtm1321 says: Jan 15, 2012 10:20 PM

    Something has to be done because the calls this past weekend after review were, well, just horrible.

  30. sch00ns says: Jan 15, 2012 10:25 PM

    The NHL has it right. They take all calls to Toronto and they always make the right decision in the war room. It much less time consuming and much more efficient. When the league is looking for ways to improve the game and not slow it down, this should be a no brainer.

  31. pongonfl says: Jan 15, 2012 10:30 PM

    Steelers-Seahawks superbowl,
    Saints-Vikings NFC Playoff
    And now Packers-Giants today.

    There is no way this is just a bad day for an official.
    Ignored turn overs, 5-6 roughing the passer calls ignored for late hits on manning. There where two where his hands where beside his body and the receiver already had the ball before he was hit, in the head, or with a helmet.
    A first down ignored, A field goal that clearly was not in. (they made sure to only show that replay once…)

    A silly late hit call on the Giants.

    This game should actually have been in the 45-6 range.

    Maybe the biggest upset in modern NFL history. Just because a team finally beat the refs when they were committed to handing the game to one team no matter what happened on the field. But the officials couldn’t catch the ball for the pack receivers..

  32. genericscreenname says: Jan 15, 2012 10:44 PM

    Roger Goodell needs to go, now!!!!!!!!!

  33. gmk17 says: Jan 15, 2012 10:55 PM

    The NFL is fooling itself if it thinks making refs full time employees…just watch a few baseball games to see how consistent their full time umpires are doing. I do like the idea of having a separate ref in the replay booth. It will help with making the game flow better and hopefully prevent what happened in the Giant/Packer game.

  34. richieab says: Jan 15, 2012 10:57 PM

    check Bill Leavy checking account…

  35. tobiasjodter says: Jan 15, 2012 10:59 PM

    I agree that something has to be done about the current replay system.

    Yesterday, Gronkowski’s touchdown was allowed to stand even though the replay clearly showed the ball moving at a 45 degree angle after the nose of the ball hit the ground. The ball then slide on the ground while Gronkowski did maintain control of it. But the ball clearly turned in his hands when it hit the ground by at least 45 degrees. The ground is not allowed to help you maintain control of the ball during a catch – I’ve seen plenty of catches overturned on less than that. But for some inexplicable reason it was not overturned.

    Then the fumble being ruled down by contact today. I just don’t see any possible excuse for missing that after getting to look at it on replay.

  36. oside760 says: Jan 15, 2012 11:07 PM

    the “league office” wanted the packers to win. it wouldnt have mattered if they were involved in that one.. GO GIANTS!!!!!!!!!!!!

  37. captaintriumph says: Jan 15, 2012 11:08 PM

    I’m convinced that the league and the refs play favorites.

  38. deadeye says: Jan 15, 2012 11:10 PM

    Doesn’t anyone consider the possibility that refs make bad calls on purpose? It’s interesting that the two worst calls from the GB/NYG game lead to Packer touchdowns. How many viewers would have stuck around if the game had turned into a 24 point lead for the Giants? It’s illogical to assume that all bad calls are just an honest mistake. NFL refs are subject to corruption just like every other profession in this country.

  39. 3yardsandacloud says: Jan 15, 2012 11:14 PM

    Mike, the NHL does it to the extent they review goals and whether the puck crossed the line, was kicked it or hit with a high stick.

    Review in the NFL is much broader than review in the NHL and it would simply take to long and be too burdensome for the NFL League office to review every play. That said, the idea should be to get the call right and I think that is why you are correct and you take the call upstairs. Stop coaches having challenges and review every questionable call upstairs and signal down if it should be reversed. There’s no reason for it to be strategy and costly to teams. In this league, every timeout and every play can make a big difference in the game.

  40. vikesfansteve says: Jan 15, 2012 11:22 PM

    When it comes out in the next 10 yrs or so that the refs were involved in point fixing & throwing games just like the NBA, I wouldn’t be shocked at all.

    pongonfl says:
    Jan 15, 2012 10:30 PM
    Steelers-Seahawks superbowl,
    Saints-Vikings NFC Playoff
    And now Packers-Giants today.

    There is no way this is just a bad day for an official.
    Ignored turn overs, 5-6 roughing the passer calls ignored for late hits on manning. There where two where his hands where beside his body and the receiver already had the ball before he was hit, in the head, or with a helmet.
    A first down ignored, A field goal that clearly was not in. (they made sure to only show that replay once…)

    A silly late hit call on the Giants.

    This game should actually have been in the 45-6 range.

    Maybe the biggest upset in modern NFL history. Just because a team finally beat the refs when they were committed to handing the game to one team no matter what happened on the field. But the officials couldn’t catch the ball for the pack receivers..

  41. keeponhating says: Jan 15, 2012 11:30 PM

    I don’t know how everyone else feels but i like the idea of being able to see the face of the guy screwing my team over. The only thing that keeps these guys half way honest is they don’t want to be killed by some crazy fan. Can you imagine if nobody had to be held accountable?

  42. indyseriesnick says: Jan 15, 2012 11:38 PM

    Does anyone remember the Vikings saints NFC championship game a couple years back?
    Holy crap that was some bad/missed calls!!!

  43. banbillleveynow says: Jan 15, 2012 11:43 PM

    Let me preface this by stating I am in no way a Giants fan. Lets have a look at the “job” the officials have done this post season.

    First, The Saints in 2 games have Brees attempt 116 passing attempts without a single offensive holding call..really? gave the saints a 1st down that clearly was not in the game vs Detroit in the crucial turning point drive.Schartz should have challenged the spot, not that they would have changed it,but just to show just how blatant the NFL is in its directions to its refs as to the certain match-ups they’d like to see in the conferance championships and then the Superbowl.
    5 turnovers by the Aints vs a dominating 49rs defense and still the zebras almost won the day for the Brees and co. Kinda reminds you of the Seahawks vs the Steelers in the superbowl. The NFL didnt appreciate Mike Holmgrens post game comment ” I knew we were going to have against a tough team today, I didn’t think we’d be playing against the Refs aswell” Kudos to you Mike Holmgren! those words cost him 50,00 Iirc

    Still nothing was done. The “tuck rule” lol, How much did that cost Robert Kraft.
    Forward to today, which quite simply was a slap in the face to everyone that truely loves this game. Players in this game are held accountable by the league for their actions on the field of play…and the Refs?
    I don’t feel the need to breakdown the bad calls today but one thing was clear..the extent of how far Bill levy and his crew of crooks was willing to go to affect this game was frankly as much of an insult to the intelligence of any fan of this game as was “The Zoo Keeper” to movie goers.
    Bill Levy and his crew should be fined 50k a piece and 100k for Dear old Bill, (looks like a zombie) Suspended for the 1st 4 games of next season and banned from any post season work for 2 years min.
    Even Joe Buck and Troy Aikman who tow the “company line” more than any other commentators, and hence are given the highest profile games, coincedence? happenstance? Even went as far as to say, “That was a bad call” lol viva la revolucion. And then never mentioned it again… a phone call from Roger maybe? Integrity in the Game…please Resign now Roger,before you destroy this games fanbase anymore.
    To Bill Levey I can say only this, I hope you have children and grandchildren who looked up to you and then watched today’s game and who have even a basic grasp of the rules. and I hope at your next family reunion they confront you and tell you what a dishonerable man you are.

  44. dougydougdoug says: Jan 15, 2012 11:45 PM

    Before everyone gets much more conspiratorial, don’t forget that New York is the number one TV market in the country, by a sizable margin. The Packers might have a loyal following around the country, but I assure you even they can’t come together and equal the TV ratings for the greater NY region. So, the notion that the referees were “skewing” their calls towards the favor of a small market team, is without logic. In fact, what is the total population of all of Wisconsin? A little over five-million? NYC has that beat by almost three-million, on a slow day. And that’s just the city, not the state and surrounding regions.

    So, try again.

  45. swagger52 says: Jan 15, 2012 11:52 PM

    Why is it that the most egregious calls always favor certain teams? We discuss this as if it is arbitrary and just bad reffing. It is not. It always favors the Packers, the Steelers or the Patriots. The only way to beat those teams is to blow them out. Any close game, they are going to win with the help of the refs. I want to know why that is? Don’t tell me about replay rules, etc. The problem is not replay, the problem is that replay favors some teams and works against others. Today’s Giants game looked very much like the fix was on.

  46. nomoreseasontix says: Jan 15, 2012 11:54 PM

    That was a ridiculous call.
    Sometimes it’s hard not to think that the fix is in place…

  47. cardinalscouldbeworse6666 says: Jan 15, 2012 11:57 PM

    My grandfather, a great, proud man, was recently denied employment as a door-greeter by a major retail chain (I’m sure you guys can figure out the name of the chain for yourselves) due to cataract-related blindness. * Yet Bill Leavy, another blind man, is not only gainfully employed by the NFL, but is in a position to directly alter the outcome of games.

    Hats off to the G-men. They were totally jobbed and still managed to win handily. A hell of an achievement.

    *Not true at all.

  48. xandercrews71 says: Jan 16, 2012 12:16 AM

    The problem with the old replay system (when the booth reviewed the plays) was that the replay officials seemed to get more calls wrong and/or were afraid to overrule the officials on the field. I think the current system is better, though I do like the idea of the NFL office monitoring games and perhaps being in contact directly with the referee for quality control. Hopefully Bill Leavy’s crew gets a low grade and won’t be working anymore in the playoffs. The non-fumble call was bad enough, but the roughing call on Rodgers was terrible. The defender’s helmet just barely grazed Rodgers due to the momentum of the hit (I didn’t even notice until it was replayed a few times). I understand player safety is important, but just flag the really egregious hits, OK? It’s almost impossible to play defense anymore in Roger Goodell’s NFL.

  49. pitolove124 says: Jan 16, 2012 12:25 AM

    Bill Leavy blew both calls. He was definitely under some type of influence because Osi never touched Rodgers.

  50. thefantasyman1 says: Jan 16, 2012 12:33 AM

    Wow, you couldn’t me more on point with that. First off the fact that he blew that call was terrible. That call could have determined the outcome of the game. Secondly, if you have the booth do replays on every scoring play & inside 2 minutes then why not just have ALL replays looked at in the booth? It’s utterly ridiculous. The referee is good for on the field calls. If we are going to implement a replay booth then have them do exactly that and be in charge of ALL replays. Anyone who’s anybody saw that play and new Greg Jennings had the ball stripped before he was down. My 10 year old couldn’t believe it honestly. It’s apparent that the replay official should be up in the booth out of the elements watching each play on a TV screen. We learned this a while ago but tonight we remembered why.

  51. farvite says: Jan 16, 2012 12:41 AM

    EPIC FAIL letting Bill Leavy continue to ref games.

  52. prior0knowledge says: Jan 16, 2012 1:04 AM

    so take the final decision out of the head referee’s hand? NO NO NO.

    Moving the decision from one place to another will not prevent the kind of error that happened on Sunday’s game. All it would do is give the decision to someone else and he might make an error. Human error is part of the game. No matter what you do, you can’t stop it. Moving decisions from one human to a different human will not help prevent it.

  53. cowhawkfan says: Jan 16, 2012 1:11 AM

    Yeah, we all believe the NFL intentionally affects the outcome of games so lets ask the NFL office to make replay decisions? Makes perfect sense to me!!! Lets ask the fox to guard the henhouse while we’re at it!!!

  54. justwinbaby29 says: Jan 16, 2012 1:17 AM

    Too many tinfoil hat people posting.

    Do you honestly think the NFL would risk MILLIONS of dollars and their credibility to “fix” the game for the Packers?

    I’m not naive (I’m a Raiders fan – the league no doubt had it out for Al Davis) and sure there could be a rogue official but cmon there’s no grand conspiracy to favor teams.

    The bigger issue is the officials are just plain old and incompetent. They need younger and full time officials.

  55. supermariojosh says: Jan 16, 2012 1:36 AM

    pongonfl says:

    A field goal that clearly was not in. (they made sure to only show that replay once…)
    ——————————-
    Look we all know Jennings fumbled and it was a bad roughing the passer call, but this may be the most assinine thing I’ve read on this site all year.

  56. thesportgenius says: Jan 16, 2012 1:56 AM

    For starters how about full time professional refs, not insurance salesman moonlighting as NFL officials. Or how many professions feature geezers instead of men in their prime? Seriously the officiating has the appearance of impropriety when a team is not flagged once in an entire game (Saints) when you could probably throw a flag on every play. Challenges should be for any thing that smells fishy. Just look at the tape and see if you got the call right. That roughing call against Osi was ridiculous to anyone seeing the replay.

  57. discosucs2005 says: Jan 16, 2012 2:37 AM

    @keeponhating

    I don’t think any ref is too concerned with our opinions.

    A better way to hold them accountable would be to keep track of human error. I don’t mean on the field plays. Those are often happening extremely quickly, and it’d be unfair to ask officials to get every single call right.

    But on this call, when it had already been ruled a fumble by one ref, and the other overruled him, and then looked at it on replay, and still got the call wrong, he should be held accountable.

    To some it might sound a little harsh, but this is the NFL. If players perform poorly, they lose their jobs because it’s an incredible privilege to play football for living; I think the same goes for the refs.

  58. offthelows says: Jan 16, 2012 6:03 AM

    officials running to the replay monitors does seem like a waste of time, but it’s hard not to notice how often it results in the broadcast going to commercial, so that value makes it more tempting to leave in place. Also, there would be a sort of big brother aspect of football with unseen and unheard from replay booth officials having an impact on the game that may turn people off and make the crew on the field feel a bit neutered

  59. dirtdawg55 says: Jan 16, 2012 6:30 AM

    And how will handing the process to another human take human error out of the process?

    The drive to eliminate human error and micro manage the result so that every game is “perfect” is doing more to ruin the sport than the mistakes themselves are. Human error is part of the game, and as the Giants clearly showed, can be more than overcome (Seahwaks fans please take note).

    It figures a lawyer would be advocating for changes. They see “wrongs” at every turn and in everybody, except for themselves.

    You want to improve the system? Fire Bill Leavy. Horrible track record. Problem solved.

  60. irightandyouwrong says: Jan 16, 2012 6:31 AM

    Totally agree with the article and comments for fixing the system. The Saints also constantly have the calls go their way

  61. patsman85 says: Jan 16, 2012 6:36 AM

    The title simply needs to be changed: “League needs to take incompetent officials off the field”.

  62. b00rad says: Jan 16, 2012 6:56 AM

    College football has replay down pat

  63. pravin68 says: Jan 16, 2012 7:14 AM

    Sure the NHL has less calls to worry about in replay. BUt the NFL has a much bigger budget. THey can afford to have a replay official with authority at every game who will only refer to the NFL Central office for advice on tricky replays which is one or two a game and it can be used judiciously in games that are still competitive and matter in the standings.

    Will it be perfect. No. But it will be consistent when hyou have a central NFL Office overseeing the entire replay system. THey have enough money to hire a committee of 10 experts.

  64. bbk1000 says: Jan 16, 2012 7:19 AM

    I can’t believe the ref who blew the Superbowl is the same guy who tried to give the game yesterday to the Pack…even if they were full time I don’t theink the league would punish them anyway.

    Bill Leavy stinks….

  65. imopen7 says: Jan 16, 2012 7:25 AM

    Worst call ever. I read that James Harrison will be fined for that “late” hit on discount-double choke.

  66. dickroy says: Jan 16, 2012 7:32 AM

    Right on Mike! I was thinking the same thing while watching this game. Look how quick these reveiws are handled in college football.

  67. tommytd says: Jan 16, 2012 7:42 AM

    Why does it seem like, in the No Fun League, the bigger the game, the crappier the officiating. Playoff officials are supposed to be the top of the class???? No way.

  68. tommytd says: Jan 16, 2012 7:44 AM

    Even the refs couldn’t hand this one to the Packers! No Lambeau leaping anytime soon! They’re toast.

  69. kmitch218 says: Jan 16, 2012 7:47 AM

    Entire NFL video replay system needs to be scrapped in favor of the way college does replay. Get rid of the stupid red flags too.

    Kick-offs also need to be returned to the old distance and adopt the college rule for pass interference. There should never be a 50+ yard penalty.

    And Bill Leavy should be banned from post-season games if not fired altogether.

  70. bobbyhoying says: Jan 16, 2012 8:05 AM

    Randomly polygraph referees. Ask them if they are attempting to influence the outcome or point spread. Immediately fire those who don’t pass. Initiate a criminal investigation against them. Also fire those who make obviously stupid calls, on a repeated basis.

  71. n0hopeleft says: Jan 16, 2012 8:25 AM

    what about the spot on the DJ Ware 3rd down?

    THE GAME WAS OVER AT THAT POINT WITH THE RIGHT CALL!!!!!

    The NFL is flirting with losing a lot of fans over season-ending calls. I don’t spend thousands on season tix, merchandise, and all the other BS to watch my team almost get fraudulently beaten in the final tournament.

  72. istallion says: Jan 16, 2012 8:27 AM

    Dear Roger, please take the review out of officials hands and do it upstairs with 3 guys in a booth. Also, please fine bad refs and then fire them. Bill Leavy now.

  73. dickroy says: Jan 16, 2012 8:33 AM

    Dear Roger, please take the review out of officials hands and do it upstairs with 3 guys in a booth. Also, please fine bad refs and then fire them. Bill Leavy now.
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    Then Roger, please resign!!

  74. bspurloc says: Jan 16, 2012 8:35 AM

    .
    Why is NO ONE mentioning Danny Ware 100% had the first down???
    Go watch the NFL.COM reviews Deon Sanders clearly says that was a first down……
    During the game they said NOTHING about it, didnt review it….
    this game was severely packers only talk….
    the FIX was on and failed

  75. cshearing says: Jan 16, 2012 8:55 AM

    This is one of the rare things that the NHL does better than the NFL. Talk to them and model your system after it, NFL, and these situations will happen less.

    As an aside, the Umenyiora roughing the passer was not as bad as the other calls. Umenyiora’s helmet does make contact with Rodgers’ helmet, and that is technically a penalty. It probably should not be, but it is. I have seen worse roughing the passer calls.

    All of the other controversial calls were obvious mistakes that showed how bad the officiating was.

  76. beedubyatoo says: Jan 16, 2012 9:19 AM

    hus10188 says:
    Jan 15, 2012 9:36 PM
    I thought it was very fishy that Buck and Aikman other than the moment it was overturned never ever referred to that joke of a call at all throughout the rest of the game, as well as no further replays. That was blatant as hell and all they want to talk about is everything but the refs call, seemed like they were part of the conspiracy.

    Gotta say I was so infuriated with that call, that even with Hakeem Nicks spectacular hail mary TD catch I didn’t even muster a celebration as I thought the refs were going to cook up a plan to prevent us winning in the 2nd half.

    And don’t get me started on that Osi helmet to helmet penalty……..
    ———————–
    Whoa, Giants’ fans. Neither call had an affect on the outcome of the game.

    In the 1st quarter there was an obvious helmet to helmet hit by a Giants’ db on Finley that wasn’t called, that could have given the Packers a first down. That wouldn’t have changed the outcome either. Giants just played better on Sunday.

  77. cidman2001 says: Jan 16, 2012 9:28 AM

    I’ve been watching the NFL for over 35 years now. I’ve gotten pretty damn good at making the refs calls as I’m watching the game on TV. Occasionally, I have to wait for a replay if I’m unsure. I’ll bet I make the right call 99.9% of the time before the ref turns on his mike and announces the decision. If a 45 year old stoner like myself can call the infractions from my couch with incredible accuracy, why does it take alleged professionals 5 minutes and they still get it wrong? I mean really, how hard is it to fix this problem. Give the head ref on the field an earpiece and let the booth overturn ANY bad call on the field with a simple shout to the head ref to stop the game and fix the call? That replay ref could even be out in the broadcast truck watching 10 angles at once! The current system completely sucks….and it’s not like the league doesn’t have the resources to fix it. Maybe they figure that the current system gives them more marketing value as we’re all talking about the game well after Sunday. There’s no such thing as bad publicity….but there is a such thing as pissed off fans who might just decide to tune out on Sundays!

  78. rubicon202 says: Jan 16, 2012 9:55 AM

    It gets worse every week! Ref’d have always stunk but all new highs this year. It didn’t matter but when Jennings funmbled and the ref overturned it saying it wasn’t? I mean it’s their job to make the right calls; every now again a blooper ok…but dam most of the time C’mon man…

  79. deepbacksidedig says: Jan 16, 2012 9:56 AM

    What is the argument against this?
    NFL wants control on the field?

    A serious issue is every play has an infraction, so how much time is committed to gabbing about every plaY?

    Getting it right is important, but standing around waiting for this tedious process has got to go.

    Maybe a simple red/green/yellow light gadget to get the booth info to the field.
    Green, AOK.
    Red reverses,
    Yellow, we need to talk.

    iPhone could have a simple app for that.
    Another sponsor too.

  80. Derty Ernie says: Jan 16, 2012 9:58 AM

    First I think Joe Buck is an idiot. Not just yesterday but throughout the season I’ve questioned at times if he is watching the same game I am?
    Point, he was saying, the ‘Packers have three dropped balls’ when in fact Finley had four all by himself.

    Also he has a tendency to harp on the air about a possible miscue by a ref and then all of a sudden its being reviewed. That tells me that someone in the review booth is listening to the game and gets a cue from him to take another look or stop the action.

    When a call doesn’t go his way he subtle suggest that there is an unfairness going on and the one team is getting screwed by the bad calls as if its a plan or something?

    My issue is the refs know they have replay so they are tentative in their calls. The other game the ref was standing right on the goal line and the player clearly stepped on the line and instead of calling it a touchback he called it down at the one.
    The referee stepped in and called for a review and it was obviously a touchback so why couldn’t the other ref, who was right on top of it not get it right.

  81. wtfru2 says: Jan 16, 2012 10:00 AM

    The true score was Giants 37, Packers 6 and refs 14. The refs tried for 21 but the Packer receivers dropped the ball…..

  82. seatown12 says: Jan 16, 2012 10:01 AM

    As a Seahawks fan I obviously hate Bill Leavy over SB XL. Even tho he apologized to the fans and organization, I still hate him, you just can’t take things like that back. The guys is blind and loves game changing phantom penalties. He should never be allowed on an NFL field again.

  83. roberts09 says: Jan 16, 2012 10:06 AM

    I think every play should be reviewed like it is in college football, upstairs and out of the refs hands. I believe it was the refs job to keep the game close as long as he could so nobody would take their eyes off the tv. A perfect example was the personal foul penalty for the hit on rodgers, it was no where near a penalty. But it keep the packers moving down field to score and give all the nations greenbay fans hope and also keep them watching the game. Yes i believe the fix was on also. Football just seems to be a made for TV sitcom anymore.

  84. zn0rseman says: Jan 16, 2012 10:36 AM

    I hate the Packers, and I know people won’t want to hear this, but…

    The fumble could have gone either way. Yes, to non-players, Jennings arm was being pulled away from his body before he was down, but he still had control of the ball with that hand until it looked like his hip hit the ground, so I can see why people think it was a bad call, and why the refs called it like they did.

    Second, Giants fans are the last people who should be complaining about refs because without a slew of REALLY bad/missed calls during the regular season, the Giants are watching the playoffs at home.

  85. sageyoung says: Jan 16, 2012 11:08 AM

    Mike:
    I totally agree with this post, but don’t they already do it that way on all the scoring plays? I don’t see the Ref going under the hood- he just announces that the play is under review and it seems to be resolved fairly quickly.
    Why don’t you just suggest they use that system for every review?

  86. threedeep1998 says: Jan 16, 2012 11:58 AM

    Even with every call going for Green Bay (per usual) they still couldn’t win. Visanthe Shiancoe’s TD against GB in 2010 stands and GB is not even in the playoffs.

  87. rjhiam says: Jan 16, 2012 1:55 PM

    Lambeau Mystink.

  88. koenig61 says: Jan 16, 2012 2:35 PM

    i know this wont be a popular post, but to say Leavy is a bad official isnt 100% accurate. Think about it the only reason you know who he is, is because hes the head referee, and therefore he is the one with the microphone making all of the calls to the audience. He isnt making all of those holding calls or pass interference calls.

    If the ref who made the holding call, pass interference, and H2H calls had to tell the home audience, then you would realize and be able to put a face to the refs who make the bad calls.

    Im not saying the calls in the Pack game were correct, they werent they were awful, but as the old adage goes dont shoot the messenger. Leavy isnt the one making all of the calls. All of these refs suck. The reason is because they dont have an idea on what to call.

    I believe during the off season ALL refs should have to sit down as a group, and review every single game. And on every single penalty they should have to write down what they would have called, then afterward total up the results, and see just how many ruled one way and how many the other way. In that way they would see as a whole where they stand. They would have a baseline on where to begin. From there they can come to an agreement on these calls such as H2H.

    Ever notice when Mike Piererra comes on TV even he is wrong 50% of the time on what the ref on field is going to call? Its because none of them have ever sat down and watched enough film and graded each other. Each ref calls it his OWN WAY.

  89. melikefootball says: Jan 16, 2012 2:45 PM

    The league needs to get off their high horse and take a lot of things away from the refs. Watching the playoffs there has been a lot of no calls that is quite confussing. There has been a lot of shake your head what the heck are the refs looking at calls. God-del fines players by calls by refs and yet he continues to put a poor managament of the game crews on the field. For a big business where wins are so important, to let the refs make calls that can and has cost teams games either to win or to lose. To many rules that are to much interpatation by the refs.

  90. drew05 says: Jan 16, 2012 3:06 PM

    The league needs full-time referee’s…end of story.

    The new, full-time referees will be held accountable for mistakes, like the rest of the workforce in America…that non-fumble call would be a “fireable offense.”

    If not for the call at the end of the Arizona game…the G-men are at home watching…bad calls effect nearly every game, and somebody should be held accountable.

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