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Ravens settle Reed-Flacco story with fake fight

Cam Cameron, Joe Flacco AP

Ed Reed and Joe Flacco put Reed’s critical words of the quarterback behind them on Thursday in the only way they knew how.

They staged a fake fight on the way out to practice, according to the Ravens’ website. Alrighty, then.

“I know Joe is a smart quarterback. He’s our quarterback, regardless of anything,” Reed said Thursday. “It’s about the Ravens and New England playing football. All that other stuff is to the side.”

Flacco is a big part of the equation Sunday, but he needs help. Greg Cosell of NFL Films noted via Ross Tucker Thursday that he’s never seen a group of receivers “so unable to beat man coverage.”

We can think of one group that is close: The 2010 Ravens.  Offensive coordinator Cam Cameron may not be helping matters. Cosell called their offense “incredibly predictable.”

“Watching their tape is like watching the 1960’s,”  Cosell said. “One wide receiver to each side, isolation routes. No bunch sets, rub routes.”

These words are worth keeping in mind the next time Flacco takes all the blame for a Ravens loss.

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  1. swashbucklin says: Jan 19, 2012 5:19 PM

    Amen on the Cam criticism, and here’s another fact for you guys:

    Flacco has started literally every game since being drafted, and has never had a season that ended short of the divisonal round of the playoffs.

  2. noquickreactionshere says: Jan 19, 2012 5:24 PM

    Wait a minute…. your saying football is a team game? The Ravens WR’s are not that good? Cam Cameron isn’t great? Shocker!

  3. papacrick says: Jan 19, 2012 5:24 PM

    Pretty harsh words but probably correct. However, I still believe Flacco is a slightly above average QB at best. He’s gonna have to play well above average this week to keep up with Brady and co

  4. steelergold says: Jan 19, 2012 5:25 PM

    Flacco is NOT an ELITE QB.

  5. 2sausage11 says: Jan 19, 2012 5:32 PM

    doesn’t Flacco look like Freddie Mercury

  6. cometkazie says: Jan 19, 2012 5:34 PM

    Would you rather have Flacco or Sanchez?

  7. jebsta16 says: Jan 19, 2012 5:40 PM

    As tall as he is you would think he would not have troubles seeing everything. He doesnt look to sure of hia arm strength or ability of the receivers ability to play on the ball. Got to take chances to win sometimes joe!

  8. bleedpurplenblack says: Jan 19, 2012 5:43 PM

    steelergold says:
    Jan 19, 2012 5:25 PM

    Flacco is NOT an ELITE QB…

    ….but he still beat our asses twice this season.

  9. nineroutsider says: Jan 19, 2012 5:47 PM

    After the Saints game, Cosell decided to stop picking on Alex and the 9ers and turned his sights on the Ravens. Better them than us I say!

    Flacco is going to out duel Brady and shut everyone up…

  10. heyzeus143 says: Jan 19, 2012 5:47 PM

    Slacco

  11. jessieboom says: Jan 19, 2012 5:50 PM

    He definitely wont be having any female distraction with that thing on his face.

  12. raiderroy says: Jan 19, 2012 5:51 PM

    Is that Dr. Zaius standing next to Flacco?

  13. cmich2006 says: Jan 19, 2012 5:55 PM

    Flacco sat down at the poker table and was dealt three aces…he has only had to be average to win with the talent around him. He has a 53% completion percentage in the playoffs, 6 td/7 int, and a 66 qb rating.

  14. ravens88 says: Jan 19, 2012 5:57 PM

    This is what Ravens fans have been saying all along and its why Cam needs to go.

  15. mikeeg says: Jan 19, 2012 6:01 PM

    The handlebar stash is back? Telling u, he would be great if he focused on practice as much as he changes his facial hair…

  16. Bubby Brister says: Jan 19, 2012 6:06 PM

    bleedpurplenblack says: Jan 19, 2012 5:43 PM

    steelergold says:
    Jan 19, 2012 5:25 PM

    Flacco is NOT an ELITE QB…

    ….but he still beat our asses twice this season.

    —————————–

    DON’T FORGET TEBOW! LOLZ!

    It happens. Doesn’t change the fact that Joe completion % in the 60s and the Ravens are going to lose by 14+ on Sunday.

    At least maybe Joey can make something productive out of it and take notes watching Tom. Have fun!

  17. Bubby Brister says: Jan 19, 2012 6:07 PM

    Joe can’t get his*

  18. blackqbwhiterb says: Jan 19, 2012 6:07 PM

    If you Raven fans don’t like him, send Flacco 50 miles south to DC, Redskin fans would love to have him!!

  19. jamaltimore says: Jan 19, 2012 6:19 PM

    The Ravens offense long before cam was run by matt cavanaugh who’s now QB coach with the JETS (SURPRISE). The style is predictable and boring year after year after year. It’s bout time someone’s come to joe’s defense as far as receivers. I mean on the highlights from Sunday that NFL network is showing with Reeds voice in the background you can see that NONE of his receivers have seperation. Not to mention the drops including QUAN! It’s laughable the slack he gets but he and little ray will shut them all up on Sunday!

  20. vincentbojackson says: Jan 19, 2012 6:20 PM

    “The Raven’s offense is right out of the ’60’s”

    Just like Flacco’s ridiculous porn stash

  21. Patskrieg dot com says: Jan 19, 2012 6:29 PM

    Fake quarterback. Fake fight.

    Story checks out.

  22. nineroutsider says: Jan 19, 2012 6:36 PM

    Wyatt Earp and his immortals are going to take on Brady’s gang at the Fox Corral.

    Not great, but trying to come up with something for that handlebar stash…

  23. ahostiletakeover says: Jan 19, 2012 6:40 PM

    Cosell is absolutely right, and if the media wasn’t focused on spinning every little thing and they and their little sheep actually watched the games like Cosell, they’d know it. So keep on showing your ignorance. I’m a Ravens fan and I would love to see them win it all, but with Cam Cameron at the offenses helm, I have doubts it will ever happen with that clown.

  24. rarson says: Jan 19, 2012 6:43 PM

    Flacco seems to have taken a step backwards this year, as he’s been less consistent and less accurate, but I don’t think it’s coincidence that this happened after Zorn was fired as QB coach and replaced by Cam Cameron, who isn’t even a competent coordinator and doesn’t need or deserve the extra responsibility. To say that the Ravens offense is predictable is almost an understatement; I’m no football expert but I can guess the play at least 60% of the time.

    Cam’s game plan is ALWAYS the same. He always has a play or two that he uses only once a game. Then there are a couple that he attempts a couple times per game. Then there are the runs, which are almost always draw plays. He runs play action with Flacco even though Flacco sucks at it. When the team is losing badly, Cam does nothing but throw the ball. He never calls any slant routes and rarely has Flacco pass the ball up the middle. He doesn’t let Flacco audible. He doesn’t give the ball to Rice or Williams enough at all. He tries to run the ball up the middle a couple of times and if it doesn’t work immediately, he abandons the run. He loves to throw long bombs on second down that force us to throw again on third. It actually amazes me that Flacco is as good as he is and the team as successful as it has been with him at OC. It’s like watching someone play Madden.

    The stupidity of Harbaugh hiring him in the first place is only exceeded by his apparent unwillingness to force Cam to change things up. I like John, but if Cam isn’t replaced immediately after the end of this season, then he deserves to be fired, regardless of whether the Ravens win out or not. I’m tired of the offense looking like garbage.

    Complain about the individual players all you want, but their performance is suffering because Cam has no idea how to use their talent correctly.

  25. NgataChance says: Jan 19, 2012 6:49 PM

    As much as I would like to turn the page on Joey if only for his unfortunate choices in facial hair, this is spot on. No one will know what Flacco is capable of until he is out from under Cam Cameron. The Ravens made an unusually huge mistake when they jettisoned Jim Zorn and kept Cameron. Cameron’s resume is Brees before he became the quarterback he is, Philip Rivers before he became the quarterback he is, a 1-15 Dolphins team and Joe Flacco who has, thus far, been a demonstration in mediocrity. I believe in Joey, I have seen what he is capable of when his talent has been able to break through Cameron’s suffocating playcalling (see: the real point of what Ed Reed said). But, Joey isn’t gonna “be the man” until Cam is gone. And that is just what is gonna happen if the Ravens don’t win this weekend.

  26. 2sausage11 says: Jan 19, 2012 6:49 PM

    “I know Joe is a smart quarterback. He’s our quarterback, regardless of anything,” Reed

    Meaning he STINKS and there is nothing we can do. The last three words tell it all. He stands by what he said

  27. dasboat says: Jan 19, 2012 6:54 PM

    Greg Cosell must never have watched the Bucs’ receivers try to beat man coverage…

  28. rushmatic says: Jan 19, 2012 6:56 PM

    nineroutsider says:
    After the Saints game, Cosell decided to stop picking on Alex and the 9ers and turned his sights on the Ravens. Better them than us I say!

    Flacco is going to out duel Brady and shut everyone up…

    __________________

    You’d better hope so. Their defense is better than yours and their offense is similar. If the Pats handle them, it’s probably good night.

    Of course, the Giants might be looking better than any team left right now (my Pats included). We’ll see if you’ve abandoned this site in a few weeks time.

  29. dajmipiwo says: Jan 19, 2012 6:56 PM

    He was doing fine until they fired his QB coach so Cameron could control-freak the entire offense, which, under him, is truly offensive. He has no creativity, no ability to adjust, and Flacco is taking the bulk of the heat from it. Give him a decent OC and get him a QB coach–like Brady and every other QB in the league has–and then see how he does. He did great under Jim Zorn, so of course they fired Zorn and kept Cam. Not all the Ravens’ offensive woes can be laid at Flacco’s feet.

  30. ppdoc13 says: Jan 19, 2012 7:02 PM

    @steelergold – Most Raven fans don’ think Joe is an elite QB. But he was good enough to beat your teams a$$ twice this year. And if not for Q and Housh dropping passes that hit them in the hands he would have beaten you in the playoffs last year.

    Problem is that the young man gets all the blame and none of the credit. When the Ravens win, it was all about the defense. when the Ravens lose everyone tries to pin it on the “O” even if the defense stunk it up.

    Flacco has the best starting record of any QB in his first 4 years of a career in NFL HISTORY. Get that steelergold? NFL HISTORY. Sorry, I just find it very hard to believe that it was all despite him rather than because of him.

    Anyway, to Steelergold and all the steeler fans who have the need to comment on a Ravens post, enjoy the game on Sunday. We sure will. Win or lose the Ravens are in the AFC Championship, just 60 minutes away from the Superbowl and yins is thinking about how Kevin Colbert and your head coach can re-tool the team so that it doesn’t land in 3rd place behind the Ravens and the Bengals. The only sure thing and even that isn’t sure is that the Clowns will end up last. So take heart Steelergold, you don’t have to worry about finishing in 4th place next year.

  31. djaehne says: Jan 19, 2012 7:12 PM

    Flacco has started literally every game since being drafted, and has never had a season that ended short of the divisonal round of the playoffs.

    Yeah and a fifth round third string qb came within a touchdown of taking you out. Pride
    baby. Better to be lucky than good, right.

  32. palinforpresidentofnorthkorea says: Jan 19, 2012 7:17 PM

    steelergold says: Jan 19, 2012 5:25 PM

    Flacco is NOT an ELITE QB.
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    Must be devastating that your team got Molly-whomped twice this season including a 90 yard drive to win at the end…..

  33. melikefootball says: Jan 19, 2012 7:23 PM

    Here is a team for the fifth time playing in the playoffs and not getting to a Super Bowl and they are faking fights. I doubt BeL-I -Cheat will be faking anything come Sunday.

  34. steelergold says: Jan 19, 2012 7:34 PM

    Seems I’m not alone in doubting Flacco’s ELITE status. LMAO !

    I am so sorry that I got all the Raven Fans panties to wad up.

    Bazinga !

  35. opbilly says: Jan 19, 2012 7:39 PM

    to all you steeler trolls who just want to take shots at flacco for any little thing(even though he beat you twice this year), the fu manchu was done for a local charity. he has stated that he doesnt like it but he made a promise and is sticking to it because of the charity and the money it continues to raise. thats a class act. apparently something most of you trolls wouldnt know anything about

  36. njhitman says: Jan 19, 2012 7:41 PM

    2sausage11 says:Jan 19, 2012 5:32 PM

    doesn’t Flacco look like Freddie Mercury
    —————————————–
    There pics of Flacco and the guy from the village people floating around LOL He looks so much like him its funny as hell

  37. psuravens19 says: Jan 19, 2012 7:50 PM

    Ravens settle Reed-Flacco story with fake fight

    _____________________________

    There never should have been a Reed-Flacco Story…. the Media took a very small portion of the interview and made a story.

  38. beauregard says: Jan 19, 2012 7:56 PM

    steelergold says: Jan 19, 2012 5:25 PM

    Flacco is NOT an ELITE QB.
    ———————————–
    Since when does it take an ELITE QB to beat the Steelers?

    Regards, Tim Tebow

  39. discosucs2005 says: Jan 19, 2012 7:58 PM

    @rarson

    Great assessment. I think if the other Harbuagh is proof of anything, it’s that the right coaches can bring out the best in players.

  40. terrellpryorstattooartist says: Jan 19, 2012 8:02 PM

    The logic behind firing zorn was that If the offense struggled and we lost some games because of it then it would all be on cam and we could fire him but since were in the afc championship game it didn’t really work out that way but I would love to see cam get fired even if we win the superbowl which I also hope we do and they can bring in hue Jackson back to be the oc. Hue was the qb coach before zorn and I think he really helped Joe out alot.

  41. beauregard says: Jan 19, 2012 8:05 PM

    Did Belicheat hire a Raven ex-head coach the week before the game? It’s an excellent way to steal the silent signal counts and tendencies.

  42. steelerfan999 says: Jan 19, 2012 8:21 PM

    ED REED SHOULD WORRY ABOUT HIS DEFENSE AFTER GIVING UP 132 YARDS RUSHING TO ARIAN FOSTER?

  43. fringetastic says: Jan 19, 2012 8:33 PM

    Greg Cosell of NFL Films noted via Ross Tucker Thursday that he’s never seen a group of receivers “so unable to beat man coverage.”

    ———————————

    As a Redskins fan, I’m going to take that as a backhanded compliment.

  44. backindasaddle says: Jan 19, 2012 8:37 PM

    Did Flacco & Reed kiss on the lips afterwards for the media cameras too?

  45. crawdaddy1212 says: Jan 19, 2012 8:50 PM

    Doesn’t this story bring to mind the classic Chicken vs. Egg question?

    Does Cam Cameron hold Flacco back or is Flacco limiting the plays Cam Cameron can call? He obviously has the arm strength, but the consensus to this point surrounding Flacco has been that he doesn’t go through his progressions quickly enough to become anything more than a somewhat decent QB.

    Perhaps throwing jump balls down the sidelines and check-downs to Ray Rice is in fact what gives Flacco the best chance to succeed. After all, I would imagine that Cam knows his QB better than any of his critics or apologists do.

  46. icyhuckh20 says: Jan 19, 2012 8:56 PM

    thank god some one on the outside notice that Cam offense is vanilla and has no value ,that’s why the dolphins was 1& 15 .CAM HAS TO GO

  47. bleedgreen says: Jan 19, 2012 9:05 PM

    Flacco was in the same league as Matt Ryan until, for some reason unbeknownst to anyone but the Raven’s organization, they got rid of Zorn. Even AFTER Burt went to bat for him. How do you go against your QB’s wishes on something like that?

  48. freemantowilliams says: Jan 19, 2012 9:26 PM

    Cosell called their offense “incredibly predictable.”

    I wonder if this guy watched my bucs play at all this year. Don’t really see how people can complain about a team that made it to the afc championship game.

  49. harrisonhits2 says: Jan 19, 2012 9:26 PM

    “beauregard says:
    Jan 19, 2012 8:05 PM
    Did Belicheat hire a Raven ex-head coach the week before the game? It’s an excellent way to steal the silent signal counts and tendencies.”

    LOL do you have the slightest clue about what you’re talking about ?

    Nothing was stolen and none of the whiners crying about Josh being picked up by the Pats after St Louis gave him permission to do so in order to avoid paying his contract said a single word in 2009 when the Fins released their DC at the end of the season and the Cowboys immediately picked him up for their playoff run. Its called a double standard and invalidates your complaint.

    Secondly, how would Josh know any more about signal counts and tendencies from a totally different offense and defense from his own that Fox runs than what Belichick can get from the all 22 film ? He can’t.

    Thirdly, if you had actually paid attention the Pats moved to get Josh McD back the moment O’Brien was confirmed as the Ped State coach. They picked him up so they’d have an OC next year that Belichick wouldn’t have to break in. If you really think it needed what tiny input McD had last weekend to beat the Donks you really have very little knowledge of football.

  50. bleed4philly says: Jan 19, 2012 9:38 PM

    Flacco’s last game as a Raven.

  51. johntonioholmes says: Jan 19, 2012 11:21 PM

    Cleveland’s receivers are worse and their offense is more predictable.

    Part of Flacco’s problem is that his receivers aren’t spectacular and the play-calling can be questionable.

    The other part of Flacco’s problem is that he’s Joe Flacco.

    He’s not as bad as people say, but he’ll never be better than good.

    Still, they won 12 games with him. He just has to be good enough for the Ravens to win.

    The Ravens were good enough to beat the Pats a few years ago and Flacco completed one pass and was intercepted a few times, or something like that.

    But they still got the win, which means that Flacco’s average play means nothing.

  52. johntonioholmes says: Jan 19, 2012 11:29 PM

    Cam Cameron–Offensive Coordinator of the San Diego Chargers from 2002-2006.

    The Chargers had great offenses those years.

    I wonder why the Ravens have been so inconsistent since Cameron cam in 2008…

  53. brewdogg says: Jan 20, 2012 12:12 AM

    crawdaddy1212 says:
    Jan 19, 2012 8:50 PM
    Doesn’t this story bring to mind the classic Chicken vs. Egg question?

    Does Cam Cameron hold Flacco back or is Flacco limiting the plays Cam Cameron can call? He obviously has the arm strength, but the consensus to this point surrounding Flacco has been that he doesn’t go through his progressions quickly enough to become anything more than a somewhat decent QB.

    Perhaps throwing jump balls down the sidelines and check-downs to Ray Rice is in fact what gives Flacco the best chance to succeed. After all, I would imagine that Cam knows his QB better than any of his critics or apologists do.
    —————————————

    A very good argument. I think what tips the scales for most is his history with other QBs. How did Brees and Rivers do after Cameron as opposed to before? I didn’t pay enough attention to the Chargers to know for sure, nor do I pay enough attention to the Ravens to warrant any kind of opinion from me. But if Flacco were just a mediocre QB with trouble reading defenses, I would think that the Ravens would have brought in some stiffer competition than Tyrod Taylor….

  54. ampatsisahypocrite says: Jan 20, 2012 12:16 AM

    Hey, if Flacco were my QB I’d be fighting mad, too.

    You sure it was staged?

    And note to ppdoc — stop it with this delusion you have that if the Ravens hold on to a pass or two, they win the playoff game last year. The ONLY reason the Ravens even scored was off a fluke charity runback TD where all the Steelers stood around because they thought they’d heard a whistle. They shouldn’t have even been in a position to maybe win. The Ravens lost to the Steelers because the Steelers own them in playoff games. It’s that simple.

  55. ampatsisahypocrite says: Jan 20, 2012 12:19 AM

    ppdoc says:
    Flacco has the best starting record of any QB in his first 4 years of a career in NFL HISTORY. Get that steelergold? NFL HISTORY. Sorry, I just find it very hard to believe that it was all despite him rather than because of him.
    —————————————-

    Flacco also has one of the WORST playoff QB ratings of all time. If you don’t believe me, do a ‘net search yourself.

    Yes, it’s so crazy to nail Flacco because the Ravens could be up 17-3 Sunday, while Flacco’s gone 4 for 12. For 80 yards at the time! He’s SUCH an important part of the team, isn’t he? They couldn’t do it without him.

  56. bingobrown12 says: Jan 20, 2012 12:34 AM

    I hope that Ravens D is in shape,they are going to
    get about 30min of no huddle O.If the Ravens can’t
    disrupt it their goose is cooked.

  57. bmoreballbuster says: Jan 20, 2012 1:01 AM

    If there’s one thing you can take to heart, it’s that JOE doesn’t waver. In fact NOTHING deters his focus when it comes to football intelligence. Knock him all you want, BUT he gets the job done at hand. “FOUR 4 FOUR” is not a catchy slogan, it’s JOE’S mark in NFL HISTORY! Suck it up chumps. He’s a winner and the BLACK & PURPLE are damn proud to have him. PS- and for all you geniuses, it’s a FU-MANCH stache not a handlbar.

  58. thetooloftools says: Jan 20, 2012 1:35 AM

    Ravens and 49ers in the Super Bowl.
    The Brawl For It All !

  59. silverbackdk says: Jan 20, 2012 2:06 AM

    Boldin was a pro bowler with the Cards and had much worse qb’s most of the time than Flacco. Has he lost a step or does the scheme really suck that bad?

  60. dlew2191 says: Jan 20, 2012 4:19 AM

    “beauregard says:
    Jan 19, 2012 8:05 PM
    Did Belicheat hire a Raven ex-head coach the week before the game?”

    Let’s see…the last ex-Ravens head coach was Brian Billick. He sure knows something about Flacco, since he coached him for a grand total of ZERO DAYS.

  61. commonsensedude says: Jan 20, 2012 5:51 AM

    I think it’s cool that Reed and Flacco staged a fake fight. Flacco himself staged a fake QB performance last Sunday.

  62. critter69 says: Jan 20, 2012 6:28 AM

    melikefootball wrote
    “Here is a team for the fifth time playing in the playoffs and not getting to a Super Bowl”

    First, the Ravens won the Super Bowl after the 2000 season (January 28, 2001, beating the New York Giants 34–7);

    Second, not counting the year of the Super Bowl win, the Ravens have been to the playoffs seven times since:
    after the 2001 season, after the 2003 season (AFC North Division champs), after the 2006 season (AFC North Division champs), after the 2008 season, after the 2009 season, after the 2010 season and after the 2011 season (AFC North Division champs).

    If you mean playing in the playoffs with Flacco as QB? This is Flacco’s fourth season after being drafted.

  63. sudz28 says: Jan 20, 2012 6:42 AM

    I’m a Steeler fan and I’m always amazed by the criticism that Flacco seems to get year after year. He’s guided his team to the playoffs EVERY SINGLE YEAR since he started (including doing so as a rookie). He hasn’t missed a game yet in 4 years, despite taking some real wallops back there. I may dislike the Ravens as our main rival, but every time I hear people bitching about Flacco I just shake my head. Do Bmore fans remember Boller? Elvis Grbac anyone? Stoney Case? The Ravens have never had it so good, yet a majority of their fans do nothing but criticize this kid. I wouldn’t trade Big Ben for him, but if Ben went down I’d be more than happy for Flacco to be named starter.

  64. gingerkid2000 says: Jan 20, 2012 8:36 AM

    Fake Fight = Desperate Attempt To Blow Off Real Issues.

    Like the FACT that Ed Reed does believe his QB and OL aren’t doing a good job and need be better. If he didn’t think it he never would have said it in the first place.

    Considering Flacco already has a fragile ego I doubt critical comments from a HOF player like Reed don’t have some effect on him. Overcompensating with a staged fight won’t cover up what most of us have known for a while.

  65. kungfoomoe says: Jan 20, 2012 8:41 AM

    baltimore fan here. let me share some things

    zorn was fired b/c he and cam weren’t on the same page. flacco loved zorn, and zorn created a great buffer between flacco and cam. but cam thought zorn wasn’t delivering the offense the way he wanted it delivered (west coast vs air coryell). and when it comes down to qb coach vs OC, OC is going to win so zorn was out and flacco was pissed. flacco and cam dont really get along (shocker)

    this article is spot on about cam’s play calling. honestly, i think cam would have been gone before the year started if it werent for the lockout. they weighed the pros and cons of firing cam and getting a new OC w/ no off season to implement a new gameplan and decided against it. simple as that

    also, the article is spot on about the WRs. despite a couple of great grabs last game, they routinely drop balls that are right in their hands. the only sure handed guys on the team are pitta and rice. ill cut torrey some slack since he’s a rook and his hands were a concern anyways, but dickson and even boldin need to step up and catch the ball

    thats all

  66. Always On Slightly Off says: Jan 20, 2012 8:54 AM

    Patriots fans are just frakin delusional if they think the Ravens are going to just roll over and do nothing in this game. But then again, Patriots fans have always deluded themselves into thinking that Brady and Belichick are gods. They can have a bad day just like anyone else and are due for one now.

  67. guitarkevin says: Jan 20, 2012 10:27 AM

    You don’t get to the playoffs 4 years running without being a good QB. If that was the case the Ravens would have made the playoffs every year between 2001 and 2007.
    Despite a great defense year in and year out the Ravens did not get sonsistent until Joe started.
    Now we need to release the handcuffs and the only way to do that is to get rid of Cam.

  68. golonger says: Jan 20, 2012 1:45 PM

    Even though I am one of the biggest critics of Flacco,I would save judgment until he is out from under Cam Cameron. First of all, what parent would name their son Cameron Cameron???…kinda shows a lot right there…Secondly, the excuse used to always be,we dont have any receivers…now, we have some of the best receivers in the league and STILL,no offense. Why? Cam Cameron is worthless….no feel for the game.

    If the Ravens lose on Sunday, CC will be out on the street come Monday. I can promise you that. At this point,even if the Ravens win the SB,I think he is gone….

    Get rid of the idiot!

  69. ampatsisahypocrite says: Jan 20, 2012 8:17 PM

    ppdoc13 says:
    Jan 19, 2012 7:02 PM
    @steelergold – Most Raven fans don’ think Joe is an elite QB. But he was good enough to beat your teams a$$ twice this year. And if not for Q and Housh dropping passes that hit them in the hands he would have beaten you in the playoffs last year.
    —————————————

    Please — the Steelers totally taking over the second half of that game was what won it. And don’t forget the absolutely BOGUS fluke TD the Ravens ran back in the first half, off that “fumble” caused by all the Steelers standing around thinking the whistle had blown. I’d say that undeserved charity TD more than made up for a couple of dropsies… funny you don’t mention that one though.

    I wonder how fast the Ravens fans will trot out the Cameron excuse for Flacco if he flops as he usually does in a playoff game?

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