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	<title>Comments on: Ravens settle Reed-Flacco story with fake fight</title>
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		<title>By: ampatsisahypocrite</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/01/19/ravens-settle-reed-flacco-story-with-fake-fight/#comment-1528739</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ampatsisahypocrite]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jan 2012 01:17:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[ppdoc13 says:
Jan 19, 2012 7:02 PM
@steelergold – Most Raven fans don’ think Joe is an elite QB. But he was good enough to beat your teams a$$ twice this year. And if not for Q and Housh dropping passes that hit them in the hands he would have beaten you in the playoffs last year.
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Please -- the Steelers totally taking over the second half of that game was what won it. And don&#039;t forget the absolutely BOGUS fluke TD the Ravens ran back in the first half, off that &quot;fumble&quot; caused by all the Steelers standing around thinking the whistle had blown. I&#039;d say that undeserved charity TD more than made up for a couple of dropsies... funny you don&#039;t mention that one though. 

I wonder how fast the Ravens fans will trot out the Cameron excuse for Flacco if he flops as he usually does in a playoff game?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ppdoc13 says:<br />
Jan 19, 2012 7:02 PM<br />
@steelergold – Most Raven fans don’ think Joe is an elite QB. But he was good enough to beat your teams a$$ twice this year. And if not for Q and Housh dropping passes that hit them in the hands he would have beaten you in the playoffs last year.<br />
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<p>Please &#8212; the Steelers totally taking over the second half of that game was what won it. And don&#8217;t forget the absolutely BOGUS fluke TD the Ravens ran back in the first half, off that &#8220;fumble&#8221; caused by all the Steelers standing around thinking the whistle had blown. I&#8217;d say that undeserved charity TD more than made up for a couple of dropsies&#8230; funny you don&#8217;t mention that one though. </p>
<p>I wonder how fast the Ravens fans will trot out the Cameron excuse for Flacco if he flops as he usually does in a playoff game?</p>
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		<title>By: golonger</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[golonger]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jan 2012 18:45:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Even though I am one of the biggest critics of Flacco,I would save judgment until he is out from under Cam Cameron. First of all, what parent would name their son Cameron Cameron???...kinda shows a lot right there...Secondly, the excuse used to always be,we dont have any receivers...now, we have some of the best receivers in the league and STILL,no offense. Why? Cam Cameron is worthless....no feel for the game.

If the Ravens lose on Sunday, CC will be out on the street come Monday. I can promise you that. At this point,even if the Ravens win the SB,I think he is gone....

Get rid of the idiot!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Even though I am one of the biggest critics of Flacco,I would save judgment until he is out from under Cam Cameron. First of all, what parent would name their son Cameron Cameron???&#8230;kinda shows a lot right there&#8230;Secondly, the excuse used to always be,we dont have any receivers&#8230;now, we have some of the best receivers in the league and STILL,no offense. Why? Cam Cameron is worthless&#8230;.no feel for the game.</p>
<p>If the Ravens lose on Sunday, CC will be out on the street come Monday. I can promise you that. At this point,even if the Ravens win the SB,I think he is gone&#8230;.</p>
<p>Get rid of the idiot!</p>
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		<title>By: guitarkevin</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[guitarkevin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jan 2012 15:27:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You don&#039;t get to the playoffs 4 years running without being a good QB. If that was the case the Ravens would have made the playoffs every year between 2001 and 2007.
Despite a great defense year in and year out the Ravens did not get sonsistent until Joe started.
Now we need to release the handcuffs and the only way to do that is to get rid of Cam.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You don&#8217;t get to the playoffs 4 years running without being a good QB. If that was the case the Ravens would have made the playoffs every year between 2001 and 2007.<br />
Despite a great defense year in and year out the Ravens did not get sonsistent until Joe started.<br />
Now we need to release the handcuffs and the only way to do that is to get rid of Cam.</p>
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		<title>By: Always On Slightly Off</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Always On Slightly Off]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jan 2012 13:54:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Patriots fans are just frakin delusional if they think the Ravens are going to just roll over and do nothing in this game. But then again, Patriots fans have always deluded themselves into thinking that Brady and Belichick are gods. They can have a bad day just like anyone else and are due for one now.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Patriots fans are just frakin delusional if they think the Ravens are going to just roll over and do nothing in this game. But then again, Patriots fans have always deluded themselves into thinking that Brady and Belichick are gods. They can have a bad day just like anyone else and are due for one now.</p>
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		<title>By: kungfoomoe</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[kungfoomoe]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jan 2012 13:41:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[baltimore fan here. let me share some things

zorn was fired b/c he and cam weren&#039;t on the same page. flacco loved zorn, and zorn created a great buffer between flacco and cam. but cam thought zorn wasn&#039;t delivering the offense the way he wanted it delivered (west coast vs air coryell). and when it comes down to qb coach vs OC, OC is going to win so zorn was out and flacco was pissed. flacco and cam dont really get along (shocker)

this article is spot on about cam&#039;s play calling. honestly, i think cam would have been gone before the year started if it werent for the lockout. they weighed the pros and cons of firing cam and getting a new OC w/ no off season to implement a new gameplan and decided against it. simple as that

also, the article is spot on about the WRs. despite a couple of great grabs last game, they routinely drop balls that are right in their hands. the only sure handed guys on the team are pitta and rice. ill cut torrey some slack since he&#039;s a rook and his hands were a concern anyways, but dickson and even boldin need to step up and catch the ball

thats all]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>baltimore fan here. let me share some things</p>
<p>zorn was fired b/c he and cam weren&#8217;t on the same page. flacco loved zorn, and zorn created a great buffer between flacco and cam. but cam thought zorn wasn&#8217;t delivering the offense the way he wanted it delivered (west coast vs air coryell). and when it comes down to qb coach vs OC, OC is going to win so zorn was out and flacco was pissed. flacco and cam dont really get along (shocker)</p>
<p>this article is spot on about cam&#8217;s play calling. honestly, i think cam would have been gone before the year started if it werent for the lockout. they weighed the pros and cons of firing cam and getting a new OC w/ no off season to implement a new gameplan and decided against it. simple as that</p>
<p>also, the article is spot on about the WRs. despite a couple of great grabs last game, they routinely drop balls that are right in their hands. the only sure handed guys on the team are pitta and rice. ill cut torrey some slack since he&#8217;s a rook and his hands were a concern anyways, but dickson and even boldin need to step up and catch the ball</p>
<p>thats all</p>
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		<title>By: gingerkid2000</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[gingerkid2000]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jan 2012 13:36:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Fake Fight = Desperate Attempt To Blow Off Real Issues.

Like the FACT that Ed Reed does believe his QB and OL aren&#039;t doing a good job and need be better. If he didn&#039;t think it he never would have said it in the first place.

Considering Flacco already has a fragile ego I doubt critical comments from a HOF player like Reed don&#039;t have some effect on him. Overcompensating with a staged fight won&#039;t cover up what most of us have known for a while.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fake Fight = Desperate Attempt To Blow Off Real Issues.</p>
<p>Like the FACT that Ed Reed does believe his QB and OL aren&#8217;t doing a good job and need be better. If he didn&#8217;t think it he never would have said it in the first place.</p>
<p>Considering Flacco already has a fragile ego I doubt critical comments from a HOF player like Reed don&#8217;t have some effect on him. Overcompensating with a staged fight won&#8217;t cover up what most of us have known for a while.</p>
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		<title>By: sudz28</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[sudz28]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jan 2012 11:42:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m a Steeler fan and I&#039;m always amazed by the criticism that Flacco seems to get year after year.  He&#039;s guided his team to the playoffs EVERY SINGLE YEAR since he started (including doing so as a rookie).  He hasn&#039;t missed a game yet in 4 years, despite taking some real wallops back there.  I may dislike the Ravens as our main rival, but every time I hear people bitching about Flacco I just shake my head.  Do Bmore fans remember Boller?  Elvis Grbac anyone?  Stoney Case?  The Ravens have never had it so good, yet a majority of their fans do nothing but criticize this kid.  I wouldn&#039;t trade Big Ben for him, but if Ben went down I&#039;d be more than happy for Flacco to be named starter.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m a Steeler fan and I&#8217;m always amazed by the criticism that Flacco seems to get year after year.  He&#8217;s guided his team to the playoffs EVERY SINGLE YEAR since he started (including doing so as a rookie).  He hasn&#8217;t missed a game yet in 4 years, despite taking some real wallops back there.  I may dislike the Ravens as our main rival, but every time I hear people bitching about Flacco I just shake my head.  Do Bmore fans remember Boller?  Elvis Grbac anyone?  Stoney Case?  The Ravens have never had it so good, yet a majority of their fans do nothing but criticize this kid.  I wouldn&#8217;t trade Big Ben for him, but if Ben went down I&#8217;d be more than happy for Flacco to be named starter.</p>
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		<title>By: critter69</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[critter69]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jan 2012 11:28:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[melikefootball wrote
&quot;Here is a team for the fifth time playing in the playoffs and not getting to a Super Bowl&quot;

First, the Ravens won the Super Bowl after the 2000 season (January 28, 2001, beating the New York Giants 34–7);

Second, not counting the year of the Super Bowl win, the Ravens have been to the playoffs seven times since:
after the 2001 season, after the 2003 season (AFC North Division champs), after the 2006 season (AFC North Division champs), after the 2008 season, after the 2009 season, after the 2010 season and after the 2011 season (AFC North Division champs).

If you mean playing in the playoffs with Flacco as QB?  This is Flacco&#039;s fourth season after being drafted.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>melikefootball wrote<br />
&#8220;Here is a team for the fifth time playing in the playoffs and not getting to a Super Bowl&#8221;</p>
<p>First, the Ravens won the Super Bowl after the 2000 season (January 28, 2001, beating the New York Giants 34–7);</p>
<p>Second, not counting the year of the Super Bowl win, the Ravens have been to the playoffs seven times since:<br />
after the 2001 season, after the 2003 season (AFC North Division champs), after the 2006 season (AFC North Division champs), after the 2008 season, after the 2009 season, after the 2010 season and after the 2011 season (AFC North Division champs).</p>
<p>If you mean playing in the playoffs with Flacco as QB?  This is Flacco&#8217;s fourth season after being drafted.</p>
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		<title>By: commonsensedude</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[commonsensedude]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jan 2012 10:51:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think it&#039;s cool that Reed and Flacco staged a fake fight. Flacco himself staged a fake QB performance last Sunday.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it&#8217;s cool that Reed and Flacco staged a fake fight. Flacco himself staged a fake QB performance last Sunday.</p>
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		<title>By: dlew2191</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[dlew2191]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jan 2012 09:19:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[“beauregard says:
Jan 19, 2012 8:05 PM
Did Belicheat hire a Raven ex-head coach the week before the game?&quot;

Let&#039;s see...the last ex-Ravens head coach was Brian Billick.  He sure knows something about Flacco, since he coached him for a grand total of ZERO DAYS.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“beauregard says:<br />
Jan 19, 2012 8:05 PM<br />
Did Belicheat hire a Raven ex-head coach the week before the game?&#8221;</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s see&#8230;the last ex-Ravens head coach was Brian Billick.  He sure knows something about Flacco, since he coached him for a grand total of ZERO DAYS.</p>
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		<title>By: silverbackdk</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[silverbackdk]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jan 2012 07:06:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Boldin was a pro bowler with the Cards and had much worse qb&#039;s most of the time than Flacco. Has he lost a step or does the scheme really suck that bad?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Boldin was a pro bowler with the Cards and had much worse qb&#8217;s most of the time than Flacco. Has he lost a step or does the scheme really suck that bad?</p>
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		<title>By: thetooloftools</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[thetooloftools]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jan 2012 06:35:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ravens and 49ers in the Super Bowl. 
The Brawl For It All !]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ravens and 49ers in the Super Bowl.<br />
The Brawl For It All !</p>
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		<title>By: bmoreballbuster</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[bmoreballbuster]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jan 2012 06:01:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If there&#039;s one thing you can take to heart, it&#039;s that JOE doesn&#039;t waver. In fact NOTHING deters his focus when it comes to football intelligence.  Knock him all you want, BUT he gets the job done at hand.  &quot;FOUR 4 FOUR&#039;&#039; is not a catchy slogan, it&#039;s JOE&#039;S mark in NFL HISTORY!  Suck it up chumps.  He&#039;s a winner and the BLACK &amp; PURPLE are damn proud to have him.  PS- and for all you geniuses, it&#039;s a FU-MANCH stache not a handlbar.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If there&#8217;s one thing you can take to heart, it&#8217;s that JOE doesn&#8217;t waver. In fact NOTHING deters his focus when it comes to football intelligence.  Knock him all you want, BUT he gets the job done at hand.  &#8220;FOUR 4 FOUR&#8221; is not a catchy slogan, it&#8217;s JOE&#8217;S mark in NFL HISTORY!  Suck it up chumps.  He&#8217;s a winner and the BLACK &amp; PURPLE are damn proud to have him.  PS- and for all you geniuses, it&#8217;s a FU-MANCH stache not a handlbar.</p>
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		<title>By: bingobrown12</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[bingobrown12]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jan 2012 05:34:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I hope that Ravens D is in shape,they are going to
get about 30min of no huddle O.If the Ravens can&#039;t
disrupt it their goose is cooked.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hope that Ravens D is in shape,they are going to<br />
get about 30min of no huddle O.If the Ravens can&#8217;t<br />
disrupt it their goose is cooked.</p>
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		<title>By: ampatsisahypocrite</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ampatsisahypocrite]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jan 2012 05:19:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[ppdoc says:
Flacco has the best starting record of any QB in his first 4 years of a career in NFL HISTORY. Get that steelergold? NFL HISTORY. Sorry, I just find it very hard to believe that it was all despite him rather than because of him.
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Flacco also has one of the WORST playoff QB ratings of all time. If you don&#039;t believe me, do a &#039;net search yourself. 

Yes, it&#039;s so crazy to nail Flacco because the Ravens could be up 17-3 Sunday, while Flacco&#039;s gone 4 for 12. For 80 yards at the time! He&#039;s SUCH an important part of the team, isn&#039;t he? They couldn&#039;t do it without him.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ppdoc says:<br />
Flacco has the best starting record of any QB in his first 4 years of a career in NFL HISTORY. Get that steelergold? NFL HISTORY. Sorry, I just find it very hard to believe that it was all despite him rather than because of him.<br />
&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;-</p>
<p>Flacco also has one of the WORST playoff QB ratings of all time. If you don&#8217;t believe me, do a &#8216;net search yourself. </p>
<p>Yes, it&#8217;s so crazy to nail Flacco because the Ravens could be up 17-3 Sunday, while Flacco&#8217;s gone 4 for 12. For 80 yards at the time! He&#8217;s SUCH an important part of the team, isn&#8217;t he? They couldn&#8217;t do it without him.</p>
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		<title>By: ampatsisahypocrite</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ampatsisahypocrite]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jan 2012 05:16:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hey, if Flacco were my QB I&#039;d be fighting mad, too.

You sure it was staged?

And note to ppdoc -- stop it with this delusion you have that if the Ravens hold on to a pass or two, they win the playoff game last year. The ONLY reason the Ravens even scored was off a fluke charity runback TD where all the Steelers stood around because they thought they&#039;d heard a whistle. They shouldn&#039;t have even been in a position to maybe win. The Ravens lost to the Steelers because the Steelers own them in playoff games. It&#039;s that simple.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, if Flacco were my QB I&#8217;d be fighting mad, too.</p>
<p>You sure it was staged?</p>
<p>And note to ppdoc &#8212; stop it with this delusion you have that if the Ravens hold on to a pass or two, they win the playoff game last year. The ONLY reason the Ravens even scored was off a fluke charity runback TD where all the Steelers stood around because they thought they&#8217;d heard a whistle. They shouldn&#8217;t have even been in a position to maybe win. The Ravens lost to the Steelers because the Steelers own them in playoff games. It&#8217;s that simple.</p>
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		<title>By: brewdogg</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[brewdogg]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jan 2012 05:12:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[crawdaddy1212 says:
Jan 19, 2012 8:50 PM
Doesn’t this story bring to mind the classic Chicken vs. Egg question?

Does Cam Cameron hold Flacco back or is Flacco limiting the plays Cam Cameron can call? He obviously has the arm strength, but the consensus to this point surrounding Flacco has been that he doesn’t go through his progressions quickly enough to become anything more than a somewhat decent QB.

Perhaps throwing jump balls down the sidelines and check-downs to Ray Rice is in fact what gives Flacco the best chance to succeed. After all, I would imagine that Cam knows his QB better than any of his critics or apologists do.
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A very good argument.  I think what tips the scales for most is his history with other QBs.  How did Brees and Rivers do after Cameron as opposed to before?  I didn&#039;t pay enough attention to the Chargers to know for sure, nor do I pay enough attention to the Ravens to warrant any kind of opinion from me.  But if Flacco were just a mediocre QB with trouble reading defenses, I would think that the Ravens would have brought in some stiffer competition than Tyrod Taylor....]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>crawdaddy1212 says:<br />
Jan 19, 2012 8:50 PM<br />
Doesn’t this story bring to mind the classic Chicken vs. Egg question?</p>
<p>Does Cam Cameron hold Flacco back or is Flacco limiting the plays Cam Cameron can call? He obviously has the arm strength, but the consensus to this point surrounding Flacco has been that he doesn’t go through his progressions quickly enough to become anything more than a somewhat decent QB.</p>
<p>Perhaps throwing jump balls down the sidelines and check-downs to Ray Rice is in fact what gives Flacco the best chance to succeed. After all, I would imagine that Cam knows his QB better than any of his critics or apologists do.<br />
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<p>A very good argument.  I think what tips the scales for most is his history with other QBs.  How did Brees and Rivers do after Cameron as opposed to before?  I didn&#8217;t pay enough attention to the Chargers to know for sure, nor do I pay enough attention to the Ravens to warrant any kind of opinion from me.  But if Flacco were just a mediocre QB with trouble reading defenses, I would think that the Ravens would have brought in some stiffer competition than Tyrod Taylor&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: johntonioholmes</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jan 2012 04:29:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Cam Cameron--Offensive Coordinator of the San Diego Chargers from 2002-2006.

The Chargers had great offenses those years.

I wonder why the Ravens have been so inconsistent since Cameron cam in 2008...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cam Cameron&#8211;Offensive Coordinator of the San Diego Chargers from 2002-2006.</p>
<p>The Chargers had great offenses those years.</p>
<p>I wonder why the Ravens have been so inconsistent since Cameron cam in 2008&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: johntonioholmes</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jan 2012 04:21:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Cleveland&#039;s receivers are worse and their offense is more predictable.

Part of Flacco&#039;s problem is that his receivers aren&#039;t spectacular and the play-calling can be questionable.

The other part of Flacco&#039;s problem is that he&#039;s Joe Flacco.

He&#039;s not as bad as people say, but he&#039;ll never be better than good.

Still, they won 12 games with him.  He just has to be good enough for the Ravens to win.  

The Ravens were good enough to beat the Pats a few years ago and Flacco completed one pass and was intercepted a few times, or something like that.

But they still got the win, which means that Flacco&#039;s average play means nothing.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cleveland&#8217;s receivers are worse and their offense is more predictable.</p>
<p>Part of Flacco&#8217;s problem is that his receivers aren&#8217;t spectacular and the play-calling can be questionable.</p>
<p>The other part of Flacco&#8217;s problem is that he&#8217;s Joe Flacco.</p>
<p>He&#8217;s not as bad as people say, but he&#8217;ll never be better than good.</p>
<p>Still, they won 12 games with him.  He just has to be good enough for the Ravens to win.  </p>
<p>The Ravens were good enough to beat the Pats a few years ago and Flacco completed one pass and was intercepted a few times, or something like that.</p>
<p>But they still got the win, which means that Flacco&#8217;s average play means nothing.</p>
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		<title>By: bleed4philly</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jan 2012 02:38:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Flacco&#039;s last game as a Raven.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Flacco&#8217;s last game as a Raven.</p>
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		<title>By: harrisonhits2</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jan 2012 02:26:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;beauregard says:
Jan 19, 2012 8:05 PM
Did Belicheat hire a Raven ex-head coach the week before the game? It’s an excellent way to steal the silent signal counts and tendencies.&quot;

LOL do you have the slightest clue about what you&#039;re talking about ?

Nothing was stolen and none of the whiners crying about Josh being picked up by the Pats after St Louis gave him permission to do so in order to avoid paying his contract said a single word in 2009 when the Fins released their DC at the end of the season and the Cowboys immediately picked him up for their playoff run.  Its called a double standard and invalidates your complaint.

Secondly, how would Josh know any more about signal counts and tendencies from a totally different offense and defense from his own that Fox runs than what Belichick can get from the all 22 film ?  He can&#039;t.

Thirdly, if you had actually paid attention the Pats moved to get Josh McD back the moment O&#039;Brien was confirmed as the Ped State coach.  They picked him up so they&#039;d have an OC next year that Belichick wouldn&#039;t have to break in.  If you really think it needed what tiny input McD had last weekend to beat the Donks you really have very little knowledge of football.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;beauregard says:<br />
Jan 19, 2012 8:05 PM<br />
Did Belicheat hire a Raven ex-head coach the week before the game? It’s an excellent way to steal the silent signal counts and tendencies.&#8221;</p>
<p>LOL do you have the slightest clue about what you&#8217;re talking about ?</p>
<p>Nothing was stolen and none of the whiners crying about Josh being picked up by the Pats after St Louis gave him permission to do so in order to avoid paying his contract said a single word in 2009 when the Fins released their DC at the end of the season and the Cowboys immediately picked him up for their playoff run.  Its called a double standard and invalidates your complaint.</p>
<p>Secondly, how would Josh know any more about signal counts and tendencies from a totally different offense and defense from his own that Fox runs than what Belichick can get from the all 22 film ?  He can&#8217;t.</p>
<p>Thirdly, if you had actually paid attention the Pats moved to get Josh McD back the moment O&#8217;Brien was confirmed as the Ped State coach.  They picked him up so they&#8217;d have an OC next year that Belichick wouldn&#8217;t have to break in.  If you really think it needed what tiny input McD had last weekend to beat the Donks you really have very little knowledge of football.</p>
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		<title>By: freemantowilliams</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jan 2012 02:26:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Cosell called their offense “incredibly predictable.”


I wonder if this guy watched my bucs play at all this year. Don&#039;t really see how people can complain about a team that made it to the afc championship game.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cosell called their offense “incredibly predictable.”</p>
<p>I wonder if this guy watched my bucs play at all this year. Don&#8217;t really see how people can complain about a team that made it to the afc championship game.</p>
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		<title>By: bleedgreen</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jan 2012 02:05:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Flacco was in the same league as Matt Ryan until, for some reason unbeknownst to anyone but the Raven&#039;s organization, they got rid of Zorn. Even AFTER Burt went to bat for him. How do you go against your QB&#039;s wishes on something like that?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Flacco was in the same league as Matt Ryan until, for some reason unbeknownst to anyone but the Raven&#8217;s organization, they got rid of Zorn. Even AFTER Burt went to bat for him. How do you go against your QB&#8217;s wishes on something like that?</p>
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		<title>By: icyhuckh20</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jan 2012 01:56:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[thank god some one on the outside notice that Cam offense is vanilla and has no value ,that&#039;s why the dolphins was 1&amp; 15 .CAM HAS TO GO]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thank god some one on the outside notice that Cam offense is vanilla and has no value ,that&#8217;s why the dolphins was 1&amp; 15 .CAM HAS TO GO</p>
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		<title>By: crawdaddy1212</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jan 2012 01:50:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Doesn&#039;t this story bring to mind the classic Chicken vs. Egg question?

Does Cam Cameron hold Flacco back or is Flacco limiting the plays Cam Cameron can call? He obviously has the arm strength, but the consensus to this point surrounding Flacco has been that he doesn&#039;t go through his progressions quickly enough to become anything more than a somewhat decent QB. 

Perhaps throwing jump balls down the sidelines and check-downs to Ray Rice is in fact what gives Flacco the best chance to succeed.  After all, I would imagine that Cam knows his QB better than any of his critics or apologists do.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Doesn&#8217;t this story bring to mind the classic Chicken vs. Egg question?</p>
<p>Does Cam Cameron hold Flacco back or is Flacco limiting the plays Cam Cameron can call? He obviously has the arm strength, but the consensus to this point surrounding Flacco has been that he doesn&#8217;t go through his progressions quickly enough to become anything more than a somewhat decent QB. </p>
<p>Perhaps throwing jump balls down the sidelines and check-downs to Ray Rice is in fact what gives Flacco the best chance to succeed.  After all, I would imagine that Cam knows his QB better than any of his critics or apologists do.</p>
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		<title>By: backindasaddle</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jan 2012 01:37:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Did Flacco &amp; Reed kiss on the lips afterwards for the media cameras too?]]></description>
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		<title>By: fringetastic</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jan 2012 01:33:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Greg Cosell of NFL Films noted via Ross Tucker Thursday that he’s never seen a group of receivers “so unable to beat man coverage.”

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As a Redskins fan, I&#039;m going to take that as a backhanded compliment.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Greg Cosell of NFL Films noted via Ross Tucker Thursday that he’s never seen a group of receivers “so unable to beat man coverage.”</p>
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<p>As a Redskins fan, I&#8217;m going to take that as a backhanded compliment.</p>
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		<title>By: steelerfan999</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jan 2012 01:21:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[ED REED SHOULD WORRY ABOUT HIS DEFENSE AFTER GIVING UP 132 YARDS RUSHING TO ARIAN FOSTER?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ED REED SHOULD WORRY ABOUT HIS DEFENSE AFTER GIVING UP 132 YARDS RUSHING TO ARIAN FOSTER?</p>
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		<title>By: beauregard</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jan 2012 01:05:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Did Belicheat hire a Raven ex-head coach the week before the game? It&#039;s an excellent way to steal the silent signal counts and tendencies.]]></description>
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		<title>By: terrellpryorstattooartist</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jan 2012 01:02:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The logic behind firing zorn was that If the offense struggled and we lost some games because of it then it would all be on cam and we could fire him but since were in the afc championship game it didn&#039;t really work out that way but I would love to see cam get fired even if we win the superbowl which I also hope we do and they can bring in hue Jackson back to be the oc. Hue was the qb coach before zorn and I think he really helped Joe out alot.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The logic behind firing zorn was that If the offense struggled and we lost some games because of it then it would all be on cam and we could fire him but since were in the afc championship game it didn&#8217;t really work out that way but I would love to see cam get fired even if we win the superbowl which I also hope we do and they can bring in hue Jackson back to be the oc. Hue was the qb coach before zorn and I think he really helped Joe out alot.</p>
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