Comments on: Takeaways from the first Giants-49ers game, take two

By: thesageofthestreet

thesageofthestreet — Mon, 23 Jan 2012 11:28:54 +0000

Us Giant fans tried to tell ya. Our D was different and we were on a magical ride, but hey all props to the Niners. They made us earn everything we got and they knocked the snot out of Eli.

Hey phelbin you wrote…”The Niners offense will do enough to allow the defense and special teams to win it. I say 24-17 Niners.”

LMAO well you were right the Niner Special Teams did win it…for the Giants…LOL

I feel bad for Kyle Williams its a shame that a classic game like that has to be decided by a kid making 2 mistakes, what shame.

In any case great game and congrats to the Niners and their fans they put up a good fight, acted in a classy manner and have a bright future

By: corytrellis

corytrellis — Sun, 22 Jan 2012 04:22:04 +0000

I trolled the NOLA sites b4 Niners/Saints; know your competition even if its fanbase. The most universal ignorant theme (not meant as slander, ignorance only from not living breathing Niners much as I expect I’m Giant ignorant) was disrespect for defense. “Stats all gained by playing weak opps” claimed the Saints faithful (including NY). When Dante put his Dodge-Ram-Skull-TD-Robbing hit down on drive-one I suspect a lot of that bravado evaporated. I see similar oversight here but not as blatant. I think this is going to be a phoenom and close game. Giants 2007 resurrect and Niners 1981 Redux. The kind of game you might only think you could conjure with AI and computer assist. Whatever the outcome I can’t bring myself to advance-boast–this is gonna be some Red&Blue football and a privilege to watch.

By: franknunley57

franknunley57 — Sat, 21 Jan 2012 02:22:35 +0000

@jake:

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Using the word retarded while engaging in some silly trash talking over a GAME of football is equally classless. I swear, if a tsunami hit the jersey shore, tv ratings would drop 95% in the state of nj overnight.

By: rabidbillsfan

rabidbillsfan — Sat, 21 Jan 2012 01:13:59 +0000

Nobody should really be talking about numbers. Stats are the most misleading, ecspecially in the playoffs. Brees may have unloaded for 400+ yards, but they still lost. They also had Zero (0) running game, much like the Packers and Patriots (even though they won). Also, 2 broken tackles and Sporles made up for almost half those yards, something the Giants won’t get from their backs, and something Harbaugh has probably worked on this week. Also, still don’t know where, or how, these people played football, or live. I will play ball in negative 50 over rainey conditions any day. You can always warm up, and once your moving, you don’t feel it. Once your wet, your wet. So to compare Eli’s cold game heroics to a game in rain is apples to oranges.

By: franknunley57

franknunley57 — Fri, 20 Jan 2012 22:27:22 +0000

is drew brees playing this week?

By: thesageofthestreet

thesageofthestreet — Fri, 20 Jan 2012 22:10:08 +0000

Speaking of Crap lets talk about the niners pass defense

Drew Brees 40-62-462 yds & 4 tds…wow what a great pass defense…lol

By: thesageofthestreet

thesageofthestreet — Fri, 20 Jan 2012 22:02:48 +0000

ninerdynasty…

comparing the niners to bowel movements? Yep I think that about sums it up for me…I think its a good comparison. Niners+ Bowel Movements…Yes Indeed.

BTW I love how people take the time to respond to something and then say I don’t care what he thinks…YEAH OOOOOKKKKKAAAYYYYY!!!!!

By: franknunley57

franknunley57 — Fri, 20 Jan 2012 21:56:17 +0000

Jake: the 9ers beat seattle twice & the redskins once. the giants lost twice to the redskins & once to seattle….sooo how does that compute? Jake, what exit??

By: ninerdynasty

ninerdynasty — Fri, 20 Jan 2012 21:34:01 +0000

@thesageofthestreet – Didnt prisco pick the packers to beat the giants last week? I care to what prisco thinks the way i care about my bowel movement

By: ninerdynasty

ninerdynasty — Fri, 20 Jan 2012 21:23:57 +0000

@thesageofthestreet – What prisco doesnt say is that the niners were outgain in yardash in just about 80% of the games and they still won. I call that being efficient. WHO FRIGGING CARES ABOUT YARDS!! like alex smith said last week:

they can have all the yards they want, we just want the W

By: thesageofthestreet

thesageofthestreet — Fri, 20 Jan 2012 21:13:47 +0000

jvbottomline,

Your analysis is good in this sense. If the niners win that is how they will win. I just think it goes more like this.

Its 0-0 at the end of the first qtr then the Giants get a Fg then niners get a td and its 7-3. Giants score right before the half and its 10-7.

After zero sacks thru the first 21/2 Qtrs the Giants Sack Smith he fmbls Giants have a short drive and its 17-7. Niners come back get a FG & its 17-10.

Then in the 4th the giants turn it over but hold the niners to a fg & its 17- 13 then the Giants Pass rush really revs up & they get to Smith he throws an into & the Giants get a TD & its 24-13. Giants go to the SB & the niners have something to build on…a great season that came up short.

By: franknunley57

franknunley57 — Fri, 20 Jan 2012 21:10:42 +0000

Yo jake, this is just a friggen football game bro. I’m from NYC.

By: rogerbrad

rogerbrad — Fri, 20 Jan 2012 20:51:22 +0000

Go 9ER’S………from a Texans fan…

By: jvibottomline

jvibottomline — Fri, 20 Jan 2012 20:50:08 +0000

People who think the 49ers pass defense is bad hasn’t been watching games this year. Let me tell you how this will go, Giants will get the ball first, go 3 and out, punt, Niners start at midfield, keep pounding the zone with Andy Lee and Defense until the offense punches it in, defense will continue to keep Giants out of the red zone, Lee will continue to turn the field position, Niners will lead like 16-9 at half. Manning will throw a pick in his own end giving Niners easy touchdown, Niners will tack on another field goal, Giants will get a scrap late and the Niners will win the game like they have ALL YEAR LONG 26-19 or 26-22.

By: thesageofthestreet

thesageofthestreet — Fri, 20 Jan 2012 20:14:07 +0000

I didn’t realize that but now the you have pointed it out yes he did throw as many TD’s in the 4th QTR as Smith threw all yr ELI 15 4th QTR TD’s Smith 17 TD’s total…

I guess I am not a sabermathematician either…LOL

By: jakek2

jakek2 — Fri, 20 Jan 2012 19:52:49 +0000

thesageofthestreet -

I’m no sabermathematician, but are you telling me that Eli had nearly the same amount of TD passes in the 4th Q this year than Smith had ALL SEASON???

By the way….Dr. Doofensmiirtz. Brilliant!

By: thesageofthestreet

thesageofthestreet — Fri, 20 Jan 2012 19:51:22 +0000

One more thing from Prisco…

To sum it up, it was a tossup game but the better team didn’t win that day. We’ll see how things change this week. I think one thing that changes will be the pass rush for both teams. They’re too good up front for that not to happen.

Couldn’t have said it better myself

By: thesageofthestreet

thesageofthestreet — Fri, 20 Jan 2012 19:49:22 +0000

From Pete Prisco at NFL.COM…

What can you learn from a first game in the same season as we ready for a playoff rematch?

That’s what I tried to figure out in studying the Giants-49ers game from Week 10, a game won 27-20 by San Francisco. That was two months ago, but it’s still relevant as we ready for the NFC Championship Game.

The past is sometimes a hint of the future. After watching that tape, I thought the Giants were the better team — and might be even better than that now. The Giants outgained the 49ers 395-305 yards and had 21 first downs to 16.
New York fell behind 27-13 in the fourth quarter, but had a chance to tie the game late before some bad play calling blew that opportunity. The Giants had a second-and-2 at the 49ers’ 10 with 1:24 left. But they tried to hit a touchdown to Mario Manningham in the end zone, going for the score, and the pass was incomplete. They probably should have settled for a first down before trying to score.

If the Giants play the way they did that day, they will win this week.

Its what us Giants fans have been trying to tell ya….

By: jakek2

jakek2 — Fri, 20 Jan 2012 19:48:03 +0000

5f6a says:
Jan 20, 2012 2:27 PM
Giants fans are sub-human filth. They should be exterminated.
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Classy.

By: thesageofthestreet

thesageofthestreet — Fri, 20 Jan 2012 19:36:57 +0000

Phelbin,

Anybody who knows anything about football knows passer qb means nothing. If it does quick in 10 words or less explain to me why it matters.

Meanwhile saying that Alex Smith is equal to Eli is ridiculous. If you think that then you are about the only one.

But hey for the fun of it lets look at numbers
Td Passes
Eli threw 29- tds
Smith threw 17-advantage Eli. by alot!!!

BTW Eli also set the record for most 4th qtr TD with 15-passes in a season and had 3 wiped out cause of penalties.

Pass Yds
Eli-4933 4th in the League
Smith-3144 which was 19TH IN THE LEAGUE!!! Behind immortals such as Grossman Hasselback Sanchez & Dalton

advantage Eli by alot

Comp %-
Eli-61. But Eli threw 144 more passes
Smith 61.3
Advantage Eli

Yds per attempt-Which most experts will tell you is one of the most important QB stats cause it tells if he is a true QB not just some dink & dunker
ELI-8.4 5th in the league
Smith- 7.117th behind even Kevin Kolb who stinks Eli by alot!!
Into’s ;

Eli-17
Smith 5 I will give ya that though its only so low cause the niners don’t trust Smith to throw it alot.

Your guys won 1 category & thats only cause his team doesn’t trust him. Bottom line Alex Smith stinks always has always will. He is Trent Dilfer dude…. a mediocre QB hiding behind a run game & Good D. This week he will be exposed for the fraud he is & sometime next yr Colin Dr. Doofensmiirtz or Kapernink or whatever is name is will be your starter.

By: anthonykornheiser

anthonykornheiser — Fri, 20 Jan 2012 19:34:55 +0000

Alex Smith is a different QB this year. This season he completed 61% of his passes for 17 TDs and only 5 interceptions. His passer rating was 90.7.

Eli manning completed 61% of his passes for 29 TDs and 16 interceptions. His passer rating was 92.9.

I know we’re supposed to believe that Alex Smith is a bust, and Eli is the better QB because his last name is Manning. But the numbers (this season) put them in the same category.

The Niners offense will
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Youre a complete mental patient. How many yards did each finish with? eli fell just short of 5000 yards. He had zero run game and a dinged up o line…..the fact you are comparing the two is a complete joke. You chose stats of your liking w/o the big picture. To be honest the niners would be a playoff team w/o smith this yr and the giants without manning win maybe 3 games tops

By: zekemob

zekemob — Fri, 20 Jan 2012 19:32:21 +0000

“Not to burst your bubble, but not really. Matthews has been AWOL all year.” –

Yeah 6 sacks, 3 int, 3 forced fumbles and a TD. Terrible numbers! Why is this guy still allowed to play in the NFL.

By: jakek2

jakek2 — Fri, 20 Jan 2012 19:30:17 +0000

phelbin – You left out one teensy, tiny detail in your Smith/Manning comparison. Eli threw for nearly TWO THOUSAND MORE YARDS!!!!

By: zekemob

zekemob — Fri, 20 Jan 2012 19:29:39 +0000

LMAO at people who keep talking about rain as a factor for the Giants. Eli won his last NFC championship in minus 20 degree weather.

The forecast for SF is 55 and showers LOLOLOLOL!!! WR’s can’t make cuts in the rain? So the DB’s who have to react to the cuts are going to be able to make split-second reactionary cuts better than a receiver who has practiced them 1,000 times??

Has anyone here ever played football in the rain? How about -20 degree temperatures? Have you ever tried to catch a frozen football? I’ll take a summer monsoon over freezing cold.

By: 5f6a

5f6a — Fri, 20 Jan 2012 19:27:39 +0000

Giants fans are sub-human filth. They should be exterminated.

By: jakek2

jakek2 — Fri, 20 Jan 2012 19:26:20 +0000

franknunley57 says:
Jan 20, 2012 1:57 PM
the saints were a road favorite in that game! they were suppose to blow the 9ers out. the saints dropped 49 pts on the giants and beat the giants this year.
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Wow you’re as bright as bearrider and cali9er. We beat Dallas twice and they beat you. According to your retarded logic we’re gonna beat you twice as bad on Sunday. See, I can play your dumb game just as well.

I swear. If California breaks off and falls into the ocean, this country’s overall academic score will improve 20% overnight.

By: Nevis

Nevis — Fri, 20 Jan 2012 19:16:17 +0000

nynewsblob says:
Jan 20, 2012 11:31 AM
McKenzie put Clay Matthews on lockdown last week. That’s gotta be worth something

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Not to burst your bubble, but not really. Matthews has been AWOL all year.

By: zekemob

zekemob — Fri, 20 Jan 2012 19:14:28 +0000

I hope we don’t get the same refs we did the last time the Giants played the 49ers in the playoffs. We don’t want any meaningless apologies from the NFL after the game.

By: drcap

drcap — Fri, 20 Jan 2012 19:14:21 +0000

Games like this… Two good teams, sloppy conditions… It comes down to emotional intensity. One of these teams will come out of the locker room ready to play. Whichever team that is will dominate. Either team is capable, but my bet is that Harbaugh is more likely to have his team ready than Coughlin. YMMV

By: frankyvito

frankyvito — Fri, 20 Jan 2012 19:13:41 +0000

Don’t forget also that Gore played that game hurt & once Kendall Hunter got the lion share of the carries the running game took off. Gore will be 100% (or something like it) this time