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Brady and Belichick try to make a little history

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Tom Brady has played ten full seasons as the Patriots starting quarterback. This will be his sixth AFC title game.

If Brady can push his record in the conference championship game to 5-1, he will make a little history along with his coach Bill Belichick. ESPN’s Mike Reiss points out no other coach-quarterback combination has been to five Super Bowls together.

The Patriots know what a great opportunity they have. They don’t have to win in a dome, like they did against the Colts after the 2006 season.  They are relatively healthy. They don’t have to face an elite quarterback, which figured to be the worst possible scenario for a defense full of holes.

Sometimes Super Bowl runs come from timing. The Patriots put themselves in position each year, and things have just set up well for them this time around. They only had to beat a mediocre Broncos team in the divisional round. Matt Schaub’s injury sunk a balanced Texans team. Quarterbacks like Ben Roethlisberger, Drew Brees, and Aaron Rodgers are out.

That doesn’t make Sunday’s challenge against a very strong Ravens team any easier. Baltimore would be the best team New England has beaten all year. Their defense poses a lot of problems. Of course an AFC title game is going to be difficult.

For most Patriots, this isn’t about setting records. It’s about players like Brian Waters and Rob Gronkowski trying to get to the Super Bowl for the first time. Only eight Patriots on this team were even active for the undefeated 2007 regular season. Three remain from the 2001 team: Brady, Matt Light, and Kevin Faulk.

This is Brady and Belichick’s chance to win with almost entirely new group of Patriots. Pull it off, and the duo will have a chance in two weeks to really make some history.

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  1. 1captain1 says: Jan 22, 2012 10:22 AM

    If Brady makes the SB then he’ll join John Elway as playing in 5.

  2. skleech22 says: Jan 22, 2012 10:26 AM

    Rosenthal writing about his beloved Patriots!!! Now that’s a surprise!!!!!

  3. footballprophet says: Jan 22, 2012 10:26 AM

    I sure hope Tom doesn’t get broken in half like a cheap toothpick today

  4. pftcensorssuck says: Jan 22, 2012 10:26 AM

    I heard something interesting on the car radio this morning, about the Patriot’s loss to the Ravens in 2009.

    Tom Brady took the field that day with his targets being Randy Moss, Julian Edelman (filling in for Wes Welker), and Sam Aiken at WR, and a tight end named Chris Baker.

    Today he’s got Welker, Dion Branch, and two tight ends named Gronkowski and Hernandez.

    Only three starters on each side of the field remain from that ’09 team for the Pats.

  5. patriotsjim says: Jan 22, 2012 10:29 AM

    Here is one other fact that people have overlooked. Belicheck will be doing it with his 3rd offensive coordinator and what would be his 3rd defensive coordinator but he doesn’t even have one! Add to that he’s got a new GM and the about the only thing they have left from 01 is Kraft, Brady, Belicheck, Dante, Peppers, Fears, Brady, Light, and Faulk. Almost a complete turn-over in front office, coaching and players.

  6. deepthreat says: Jan 22, 2012 10:30 AM

    Tom Brady’s legacy was tarnished when Matt Cassell went 11-5 with the same team…

  7. TheWizard says: Jan 22, 2012 10:30 AM

    They looked like a determined group last week.

    This defense is playing their best at the right time.

  8. ampats says: Jan 22, 2012 10:41 AM

    I have been thinking the same thing especially with Rodgers & Brees out of the playoffs. I would rather have played a third string QB ( Houston is a better team with Shaub) than the Ravens but I think the Pats are on a roll and this year’s mantra about the patch has the Pats headed to Indy.

    Brady wins the game !

  9. hooks024 says: Jan 22, 2012 10:43 AM

    When mentioning quarterbacks that the pats porous defense doesn’t have to about, you seem to have forgotten that there’s one ELIte qb left, and he already knows how to out brady tom brady on the world’s biggest stage. Pick your poison in the giants receiving game. Their wide outs are the best group left.

  10. spellingcops says: Jan 22, 2012 10:45 AM

    So Tom Brady had reached the conference championship game 60% of his tenure in the NFL thus far. Is his injured year included in those ten? Either way, that is incredibly impressive. Cherish these times, chowds. You’re a spoiled bunch of football fans right now…

  11. CKL says: Jan 22, 2012 10:45 AM

    What does that mean “they don’t have to win in a dome?” Yes dome teams have a huge advantage at home because they are usually built for that (passing, fast, small) but the reason the Pats lost that game didn’t have that much to do with the dome and had more to do with that pretty solid defense picking the worst day to give out.

  12. jnbnet says: Jan 22, 2012 10:48 AM

    skleech22 says:
    Jan 22, 2012 10:26 AM
    Rosenthal writing about his beloved Patriots!!! Now that’s a surprise!!!!!

    ================================
    Four teams left. They should only write about three of them?

  13. grpatriot says: Jan 22, 2012 10:49 AM

    Tom Brady’s legacy was tarnished when Matt Cassell went 11-5 with the same team…

    Could be the dumbest thing I’ve ever heard?
    No definately! How being hurt for a season and being 15-5 in the play offs……? Ridiculous to the extreme………

  14. Grulks says: Jan 22, 2012 10:50 AM

    1captain1 wrote:
    If Brady makes the SB then he’ll join John Elway as playing in 5.
    ================
    And yet Charles Haley will still be the only player with five rings. For now.

  15. scamnewton says: Jan 22, 2012 10:53 AM

    “Sometimes Super Bowl runs come from timing. ”

    And sometimes they come from filming the opposing teams practices and playcalls. Which is called cheating, but I wouldn’t expect the media to dare say the truth about St. Belicheat and Queen Brady.

  16. nfl1818 says: Jan 22, 2012 10:55 AM

    on the Dome, should have said dont have to play Indy or Peyton, especially away

  17. kokoskmr says: Jan 22, 2012 11:01 AM

    I wonder, did they eve bothered to print up some Baltimore Ravens AFC Champions t-shirts and hats? Since this game has already been decided, it seems like they should have saved some money on that.

  18. dawhorsefeathers says: Jan 22, 2012 11:01 AM

    @pftcensorssuck

    Here are some other names that weren’t there on 1/10/10:

    Anquan Boldin
    Torrey Smith

    The Ravens have also upgraded at TE, and their corners that day were Chris Carr, Frank Walker, and Corey Ivy.

    Let’s not pretend this team isn’t head and shoulders above that 9-7 Ravens team.

  19. terrellpryorstattooartist says: Jan 22, 2012 11:06 AM

    pftcensorssuck says:
    Jan 22, 2012 10:26 AM
    I heard something interesting on the car radio this morning, about the Patriot’s loss to the Ravens in 2009.

    Tom Brady took the field that day with his targets being Randy Moss, Julian Edelman (filling in for Wes Welker), and Sam Aiken at WR, and a tight end named Chris Baker.

    Today he’s got Welker, Dion Branch, and two tight ends named Gronkowski and Hernandez.

    Only three starters on each side of the field remain from that ’09 team for the Pats.

     ———————————————————————————-

    But when the ravens played the patriots in 2010 and lost in overtime by a field goal it basically the same exact offense they will face today and a way worse defense and the ravens offense wasnt as good that year as it is this year and they still held gronk to like 1 catch if I remember correctly so chew on that for a little bit. 09 playoff game doesn’t matter at all and that’s what every talk radio guy in Baltimore has been telling the fans calling in and talking about that game

  20. dynastypats says: Jan 22, 2012 11:08 AM

    Joe Flacco completed “4” passes in 2009. He will need over 20 today to even have a chance.

  21. Pat MyHog says: Jan 22, 2012 11:12 AM

    1) Eli is not elite. He’s clutch. He’s very good. He beat Brady in the superbowl but he’s not elite. There are only 3 elite qbs in the league right now: Rodgers Brees and Brady. Eli is 2nd tier along with Roethlisbergah. They can win a Super Bowl by they don’t strike fear like those other 3.

  22. edukator4 says: Jan 22, 2012 11:12 AM

    i hate the pats, but in the interest of good football give me sf’s defense against the pats in the superbowl

  23. mgfred says: Jan 22, 2012 11:13 AM

    With Spikes back in the lineup along with Mayo, there’s going to be some serious hitting today by the Pat’s D. Don’t overlook the defensive line either, these guys are gelling at the right time of the season. The Ravens will not be the only ones applying some pretty awesome hurt on the QB today!!!

  24. timtheenchanter1 says: Jan 22, 2012 11:16 AM

    jnbnet says: Jan 22, 2012 10:48 AM

    skleech22 says:
    Jan 22, 2012 10:26 AM
    Rosenthal writing about his beloved Patriots!!! Now that’s a surprise!!!!!

    ================================
    Four teams left. They should only write about three of them?

    —————————————

    As of right now, it looks to me like they’ve only written a game-day fluff piece about one of them.

  25. mornelithe says: Jan 22, 2012 11:17 AM

    @ ScamNewton:

    “Patriots video assistant Matt Estrella was stopped by an NFL security official while filming DURING the Pats’ win over the Jets. ”

    Notice the word during.. At no time did the Patriots film practices…Where do you people get your info? They used these videos AFTER the game to review and evaluate performance.
    Ex-Pats assistant and then Jets coach Eric Mangini, whose relationship with Belichick is strained, is alleged to have tipped off the NFL to the Pats’ taping. BTW He was part of it when he was there.
    If you read the NFL rule, it basically states that teams cant USE video DURING the game. They used this video after games. This was blown so much out of proportion that the league had to do something or look stupid.

    – Grabbed from another article

  26. portnoychunk says: Jan 22, 2012 11:18 AM

    scamnewton says: Jan 22, 2012 10:53 AM

    “Sometimes Super Bowl runs come from timing. ”

    And sometimes they come from filming the opposing teams practices and playcalls. Which is called cheating, but I wouldn’t expect the media to dare say the truth about St. Belicheat and Queen Brady.

    ^^^^^

    They never taped practices. If you’re going to blindly hate on something which was irrelevant, at least get the information right pea-brain.

  27. rayriceisnice says: Jan 22, 2012 11:18 AM

    Patriots have no chance, Boston Boos x 2

  28. rmc1995 says: Jan 22, 2012 11:19 AM

    Enough with the Roethlisberger is elite crap. Arians resigned because he put the offense on Roethlisberger and he proved he could move the ball from the 20 to the 20 and that’s about it. Flacco only has one TD fewer than Roethlisberger and 2 fewer ints. And Flacco wasn’t expected to carry the offense like Roethlisberger. The Ravens offense can be more dangerous than the Steelers so let’s not fool ourselves thinking the Steelers would be a better play then the Ravens because of Roethlisberger. Brady didn’t throw for 200 yards against the Steelers in the regular season playing in Pitt. It would be different in Foxboro. Joe has played well in Foxboro and that’s the angle you should look at.

  29. portnoychunk says: Jan 22, 2012 11:21 AM

    kokoskmr says: Jan 22, 2012 11:01 AM

    I wonder, did they eve bothered to print up some Baltimore Ravens AFC Champions t-shirts and hats? Since this game has already been decided, it seems like they should have saved some money on that.

    ^^^^

    I think you’ll find that many Pats fans outside the 13 year old internet tough guys greatly respect the Ravens and can certainly see the Ravens winning this game. Many analysts will pick the Ravens as well. As a Pats fan, I hope they win, but this is a very good Ravens team that nobody is taking lightly. Pats haven’t fared so well against top defensive units this year…could be a struggle.

  30. deepbacksidedig says: Jan 22, 2012 11:21 AM

    Good times for Pat fans. I am very thankful, remember many lean years.
    Through this run, even the off years, they were knocking at the door. Really unprecedented.

    Hope for clean games today,
    but ugly looms large.

  31. aljack88 says: Jan 22, 2012 11:22 AM

    scamnewton says:
    Jan 22, 2012 10:53 AM
    “Sometimes Super Bowl runs come from timing. ”

    And sometimes they come from filming the opposing teams practices and playcalls. Which is called cheating, but I wouldn’t expect the media to dare say the truth about St. Belicheat and Queen Brady.
    ————————————————————
    What, when and where were practices were filmed?

    Sometimes the masses are foolishly mislead by false accusations.

  32. 6ball says: Jan 22, 2012 11:24 AM

    .

    @scamnewton

    “taping practices and such ”

    You got any proof of illegality this year ? I thought not.

    So Sherman, why don’t you jump into your “way back ” machine and you can fix the Super Bowls to your liking. Otherwise, keep your moronic piehole closed.

    .

  33. mataug says: Jan 22, 2012 11:26 AM

    his one loss in AFC championship games was possibly one of the best playoff games that I will ever see in my life

  34. nite2al says: Jan 22, 2012 11:28 AM

    Combination, record? Okay, I get it, but it’s actually more impressive to do it with different QB/coach combinations, (and without spygate). Do not minimize the impact of spygate either. That was the whole reason they beat the Rams in the SB. Ask Marchall Faulk; they ran his patterns for him.

    @pftcensorssuck

    People seem to forget the Pats and Ravens played a regular season game in 2010 where the Pats won in OT. Flacco passed for almost 300 yards and 2 TDs. Gronk had only catch, Hernandez and Welker did okay. So, don’t think the Ravens don’t know these guys as a group. For the most part, the Pats’ receiving corps is irrelevant. It’s about the pressure upfront and getting to Brady. These receivers are just average guys on any another team.

  35. sschmiggles says: Jan 22, 2012 11:29 AM

    scamnewton says:

    Jan 22, 2012 10:53 AM

    And sometimes they come from filming the opposing teams practices and playcalls. Which is called cheating, but I wouldn’t expect the media to dare say the truth about St. Belicheat and Queen Bray.
    ————-

    Comments like this are pretty amusing, considering the media spent the entire 2007 season dwelling on Spygate. It’s all the haters have, sadly for them. They just can’t admit greatness when they see it.

    Meanwhile, the Broncos are a “model” franchise for only cheating the salary cap, and the Steelers are a “real” dynasty because no one was very familiar with roids in the 70s.

  36. bleed4philly says: Jan 22, 2012 11:30 AM

    Didn’t they get caught for cheating? Have they won a superbowl since then? In that case, I wish Andy Reid was a cheater.

  37. pavelfitzgerald says: Jan 22, 2012 11:31 AM

    Brady & Bellichek are great, bottom line. This only helps confirm that. The Ravens have a good, but aging/slow defence & Flacco has had all the chances in the world to step up but fails too. If the Ravens didn’t have Cam Cameron calling the most basic, unimaginitive offence I have ever seen they’d hae a chance, but unfortunately he does.

  38. 8man says: Jan 22, 2012 11:33 AM

    I agree with this. The Patriots aren’t the best team in the league or even their conference. I hate to say this, but when healthy, I think the Steelers are the best team.

    So I won’t be crowing or screaming they are the greatest if they win today or in two weeks, but the point is that they are a quality organization and as such put themselves into position to make the most of their opportunities.

    And like them or not, if they get it done, and since they’ve done it before, you have to say they were worthy.

  39. habsman says: Jan 22, 2012 11:38 AM

    Three beautiful, shiney, untainted Lombardi’s! So what are you going to do about it?

    How long and how often are you going to cry?

    We have three, and nobody is taking them back. Maybe number four on the way. Lots and lots of nervous haters out there.

  40. pftcensorssuck says: Jan 22, 2012 11:45 AM

    deepthreat says:
    Jan 22, 2012 10:30 AM
    Tom Brady’s legacy was tarnished when Matt Cassell went 11-5 with the same team…

    ———————————————————
    The same people who minimize Belichick’s accomplishment by saying that he’s never won without Brady, are the same people who say Brady is nothing but a product of “the system”……

    Which is it, haters?

  41. jpb12 says: Jan 22, 2012 11:48 AM

    Deion Branch is a carry over from 2003 / 2004 (SuperBowl MVP).

    Look for a breakout day from him/

    Ravens can’t cover everyone.

  42. kate773 says: Jan 22, 2012 11:54 AM

    kokoskmr says:
    Jan 22, 2012 11:01 AM
    I wonder, did they eve bothered to print up some Baltimore Ravens AFC Champions t-shirts and hats? Since this game has already been decided, it seems like they should have saved some money on that.
    ———————-

    Damn, really? Read the article again. He clearly said this would be a tough game against a very strong Ravens team and IF they were to win, would be the best team they’ve played all year. Geez, relax.

  43. seanmmartin says: Jan 22, 2012 11:57 AM

    For that moron saying Brady’s career is tarnished because Cassell went 11-5…

    Look at how many times Cassell was sacked that year. Then look at the average amount of times Brady is sacked per season.

    That’s a pretty good barometer of how much better Brady is versus Cassell, even in the same system.

  44. downslide33 says: Jan 22, 2012 11:57 AM

    Tom Brady’s legacy was tarnished when Matt Cassell went 11-5 with the same team…

    ——————————————————

    Cassel went 11-5, Brady was 18-1 the season before that. So Cassel wins 7 less games then Tom and somehow that “tarnishes” Brady???

    I love exposing the haters!!!

  45. asublimeday says: Jan 22, 2012 11:59 AM

    Did you actually list Ben roethlisberger as an elite QB?

  46. wozzmann1955 says: Jan 22, 2012 12:00 PM

    The record for Championship games played by a single Coach/QB combo is Bart Starr and Vince Lombardi,,they played in 6 and won 5

  47. patsfiend says: Jan 22, 2012 12:08 PM

    The Ravens fans point out some truths… we should be thinking about the 2010 game, with essentially the same teams, not the 2009 game. In 2010 the Pats barely won, in OT. The Ravens and Giants have shown they are two of the only teams that have the horses to win a game against the Pats where they rattle Brady, don’t turn it over, and win time of possession. Not to be a wet blanket on game day, but there is no way we should be taking the Ravens lightly, and I doubt many Pats fans are. Plus, we have Reed and Lewis and you know those guys are going to leave it on the field.

    Thank God Sunday is finally here. I only wish it was snowing in Foxboro. It’s time to seal your legacy, boys, and for this newest rendition of the Pats to make it to the Superbowl. LET’S GO PATS!!

  48. wozzmann1955 says: Jan 22, 2012 12:16 PM

    So are they saying that Championships dont count pre Super Bowl Era?

  49. godzilla111111 says: Jan 22, 2012 12:31 PM

    The Pats did not beat a team with a winning record.

    The Ravens won 7 games against playoff teams.

  50. tombradyfumbled says: Jan 22, 2012 12:35 PM

    Brady is good. But one of those AFC title games he should have never played in… Walt Coleman should be ashamed of himself. But as a Raider fan, who has seen countless mysterious penalties and bad calls year after year, I am convinced the NFL and officals are biased. Everything changes (coaches and players) but one thing remains the same, the number of penalties and bad calls against the Raiders compared to the rest of the league. If you disagree then so be it, but Brady’s first championship never should have happened. He lost the game on that snowy day in Foxboro when Charles Woodson forced the fumble that Greg Beikert recovered. Game was over. Patriots lost.

  51. bcgreg says: Jan 22, 2012 12:37 PM

    @ nite2al

    So let me get this straight. The Ravens “know these guys” because they played in 2010. I assume that they have also watched film on the Pats this year? I’m sure the Ravens know the routes Gronk and Welker will run. It’s stopping it that’s the issue. Every team in the NFL has film on every other team in the NFL. Do you think they guess from week to week when they’re preparing for their opponent?

    In 2001, the Patriots played the Rams at home and lost. How’d the film they had on St Louis help them there? So, when the SB rolls around, you think they had no film on what Marshall Faulk did in 99-01 in the same system? The Pats game plan was to put his ass on the ground before Warner could find him, which is what they did. They kicked Faulk’s ASS at the line so he couldn’t get into his patterns. Faulk is a whiny b**** about that game because he did nothing. The Pats put him on his ass and his coach didn’t run the ball, which is why the Rams lost. I think Faulk is more upset that he didn’t get the ball in the run game more than anything else, but he won’t throw his coach under the bus. Instead, he blames something that was proved to be false because he know the haters will agree with him to take the blame off his team’s actual performance. You still think the Pats taped the Rams’ practice? Do you live in a cave? The story was proven false. The reporter who wrote the story apologized to the team and retracted the story with an accompanying full page apology in the paper. Matt Walsh, the video guy at the time said it was never filmed the Rams walkthrough too. Get your head outta your butt and read up on the facts.

  52. drew05 says: Jan 22, 2012 12:40 PM

    Go Ravens…

    Can’t let Bill-a-cheat win another SB…I absolutely love the “Hasn’t won anything since Spygate” line…

    “I mis-interpreted the rules…” yeah, right Bill. They BURNED the evidence…so we’ll never know how much cheating they did…but, if they never win again…we’ll “know.”

    Bill-a-cheat breaks the “honor code” every week with his jazzed-up injury reports…

    By running up the score…

    Those of you set to reply “there is no “honor code” in the NFL!”…fine, then the ravens should send in a 3rd string special-teamer…have him take his time tearing apart Brady’s knee…or shoulder, since his shoulder has been “sprained/seperated” since like 1998…

    I don’t dislike Brady, and definetley don’t wish that upon him, just an example…

    Bill-a-cheat is a scumbag, a good to great coach most likely…but a scumbag no less.

    Eventually somebody is going to retaliate vs. teams that have lost sight of the “unwritten rules” in sports…Saints fans, hows that passing record? That was some BS…and I’d sit Brees for both games vs ATL next season.

    Sports, and America in general, need to get back to the point where respecting your opponent is common-place, honor amongst men and all that. Not just “eye on the prize”…

  53. harrisonhits2 says: Jan 22, 2012 12:41 PM

    I wonder how many of you Pats haters are Donks fans ? After all they only won their 2 SBs through salary cap cheating. Why aren’t the haters also calling for Elway and the Broncos to be watched closely now because Elway was part of the whole salary cap cheat ?

    Or Fins fans. Since your team tampered to get the coach you had for the undefeated season, that taints your record for that doesn’t it ?

    Or Jets fans. Almost every year in recent memory the Jets have been involved in tampering scandals that were never quite proved. But obviously the Jets cheat, no question about that. Not to mention their fans who by the thousands used to abuse women in one of the end zones until they were outed on youtube.

    I can keep going and bring up dirt on almost every team out there. If you’re going to criticize a team for something if you don’t criticize other teams for the same or similar behavior they have been caught in you are showing a double standard. And that double standard invalidates everything you have to say.

  54. jbcommonsense says: Jan 22, 2012 12:48 PM

    The related article asking if Belichick is the greatest coach, the answer is no. But Brady is definitely way up there in the ranks of all-time QBs. The key factors in such an evaluation are overall stats, clutch leadership in come-from-behind situations, and playoff/super bowl performance.

  55. todd49401 says: Jan 22, 2012 1:14 PM

    They already did make history- Spygate and tainted championships, inflated stats with unsportsmanlike running up the score, and the QB wearing women’s boots.

  56. nesuperfan says: Jan 22, 2012 1:33 PM

    8man says:Jan 22, 2012 11:33 AM

    I agree with this. The Patriots aren’t the best team in the league or even their conference. I hate to say this, but when healthy, I think the Steelers are the best team.
    __________________________________

    The Steelers are what their record says they are, and they are home watching today, so NO, they are not the best team in the conference.

    What injuries did the Pats have when we played Pittsburgh? It goes both ways. They were better on that day, but now they are done.

    We will see later today, and possibly in two weeks, but the Patriots seem to be peaking at the right time, and that is all that matters when discussing, who is best. If you win the Super Bowl, you are the best. They don’t award little consolation trophies to those teams, that beat the SB winner earlier in the year.

  57. flash1283 says: Jan 22, 2012 1:36 PM

    deepthreat says:
    Jan 22, 2012 10:30 AM
    Tom Brady’s legacy was tarnished when Matt Cassell went 11-5 with the same team…
    ——

    It’s a dumbass comment because he would be saying the same thing about Montana, Young stepped in and won a SB with pretty much the same thing.

    It’s just another stupid comment from a hater!

  58. nite2al says: Jan 22, 2012 1:37 PM

    @ bcgreg

    So defensive…you sound like you have more to hide than the cheating Pats. Spygate – whatever, Belicheat wasn’t fined $500,000 for nothing. And no, I do not live in cave, and the tapes were destroyed, so we are all in the dark about that issue, Goodell made sure of that.

    About the Ravens knowing these guys…I was referring to another post where the posted acted as if the Ravens never faced Welker and the 2 TEs.

  59. drnoahthebear says: Jan 22, 2012 1:53 PM

    @tombradyfumbled whether you like it or not the rule was called according to the NFL rulebook. Is it a stupid rule? Yes. Do a lot of bogus penalties get called on the Raiders? Yes. Are they the only team it happens to? No. Quit complaining that your team didn’t win. I’m a Titans fan but I don’t complain when my team doesn’t win. Get over it.

  60. TheWizard says: Jan 22, 2012 2:17 PM

    And sometimes they come from filming the opposing teams practices

    And sometimes people just can’t man up and give credit where it is due.

    Not to mention cling to the past.

  61. TheWizard says: Jan 22, 2012 2:22 PM

    get back to the point where respecting your opponent is common-place

    Respect yourself by playing some defense, not by insisting another team stop scoring on you.

  62. starrtodowler says: Jan 22, 2012 2:48 PM

    What wozzmann1955 said. It’s a shame that so many people seem to forget that the Super Bowl is a relatively new way to measure the world championship. The “NFL Championship” was recognized as the world championship LONG before the AFL even existed. I don’t think this diminishes what Brady and Belichick may accomplish… it’s still a rare and special achievement. But it already HAS been done. And if B & B do it this year… THEN they have a chance to make history together. And they may well do it.

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