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Arians doesn’t know why Steelers let him go, says Ben is unhappy

Ben Roethlisberger, Bruce Arians AP

Former Steelers offensive coordinator Bruce Arians has confirmed that the “retirement” the team announced last week was actually a departure forced by the team. And he says Ben Roethlisberger is not pleased.

Arians says Steelers owner Art Rooney II didn’t offer him a contract for the 2012 season and wouldn’t tell him why.

I can’t answer that question,” Arians told the York Daily Record. “Only the people there can. That’s the business. I know the job we did as a staff. I don’t have any regrets.”

Arians and Roethlisberger have always had a strong coach-player relationship, and they’re friends and neighbors. Arians said Roethlisberger is upset that someone new will be coming in to run the offense.

“He’s not happy, but that’s part of the business,” Arians said. “He is happy for me. He lives around the corner and we’ll still see each other a lot. The phone is always there when he needs me.”

But Arians says he has no hard feelings, and he’ll have warm memories of head coach Mike Tomlin, who reportedly wanted Arians to stay but was overruled by Rooney.

“My door is always open to him. I respect him a ton,” Arians said. “I enjoyed our relationship and learned a lot. It was great watching him grow and working with him.”

Arians just wishes he could have worked with Tomlin a little longer.

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82 Responses to “Arians doesn’t know why Steelers let him go, says Ben is unhappy”
  1. cryptker says: Jan 24, 2012 8:54 AM

    Ben is not pleased,So sad to hear that….You know
    what Ben get over it!

  2. 6250claimer says: Jan 24, 2012 8:55 AM

    Arians won’t be out of work long. Look for him to join Ken Whisenhunt on the Cardinals staff by next week. MARK IT!

  3. nflofficeadmin says: Jan 24, 2012 8:56 AM

    LOLZ. ridiculous. what circus they are running over there..

  4. justafanofitall says: Jan 24, 2012 8:57 AM

    Could lack of offense be the answer? With Ben at the helm and a good RB and receivers….where were the points. Then again maybe you were put under the bus for Ben’s lack of true elite QB talent.

  5. steelerdynasty2010 says: Jan 24, 2012 8:57 AM

    well at least someone is unhappy about it

  6. eddddddd says: Jan 24, 2012 8:57 AM

    I dunno, I think he is a scapegoat for a crappy offensive line.

  7. buckeye044 says: Jan 24, 2012 9:01 AM

    Maybe he should change his name to Big Baby Ben.
    And then he should look at his awful QB play in the red zone.

  8. riverhorsey says: Jan 24, 2012 9:01 AM

    Sounds a little to much like a buddy buddy relationship.

  9. shotgunformation5wide says: Jan 24, 2012 9:01 AM

    I wouldn’t have let him go, but I would have demoted him to QB’s or back to WR’s coach. Just because a person doesn’t make a good Head Coach doesn’t mean he wouldn’t be a good OC/DC.

    Also, in Arians defense, Ben missed several reads during the course of the season. One that sticks out was in the San Fran game. He missed Antonio Brown going underneath, across the middle (wide open) .. instead he forced the ball to Wallace, resulting in a Red Zone turnover. Anyway …. thanks for the memories Bruce.

  10. FinFan68 says: Jan 24, 2012 9:01 AM

    Arians says Steelers owner Art Rooney II didn’t offer him a contract for the 2012 season and wouldn’t tell him why.
    ———————
    I really doubt this is true. It’s more likely he just doesn’t like or doesn’t want to disclose the reason that was given.

  11. fat4jc says: Jan 24, 2012 9:02 AM

    not the brightest person is he?

    The Steelers gave him a chance to walk away “retired”, instead he confirms he was fired.

  12. redguy12588 says: Jan 24, 2012 9:03 AM

    How do you not know why you were let go? This team hasn’t scored points in years.

  13. nflfollower says: Jan 24, 2012 9:03 AM

    They didn’t have the physical ground game they have had in the past it seems. From the outside looking in, not a steelers fan, it seems to me that was more a reflection of current offensive personnel as opposed to the OC…

  14. steelbydesign says: Jan 24, 2012 9:04 AM

    “didn’t offer him a contract for the 2012 season and wouldn’t tell him why.”

    C’mon Bruce, really? Because you have a top 5 QB, a top 5 receiving corps, and not an elite but a very solid group of running backs and you finished 21st in scoring offense. I know the OL is bad but you adjust…

    If you know there’s issues with pass protection, you don’t call bombs that take a long time to develop. As soon as Ben lost his mobility, Bruce’s offense died.

    Let’s not act like it’s some huge mystery why the Rooney’s didn’t want him back… oh and I don’t care if Ben is mad.

  15. sportsfuhnatic says: Jan 24, 2012 9:05 AM

    Whoa! Calm it down on the bromance.

  16. ralphtherealravenfan says: Jan 24, 2012 9:06 AM

    The Steelers can hang 30 on you real quick with Ben and those receivers. I never understood the angst about Arians amongst Steelers fans. Yall won a Super Bowl with him. Cam Cameron on the other hand…

  17. chmba says: Jan 24, 2012 9:06 AM

    Maybe AR II thinks he is Jerry Jones and would like similar results….or Bill Polian/Caldwell and can weaken the team by disrupting the qb-coach relationship…

  18. killerstiller says: Jan 24, 2012 9:06 AM

    Please, God, don’t let Cam Cameron on the property!

  19. painkiller20 says: Jan 24, 2012 9:09 AM

    He better not leave his door open if he has a wife and daughter. Big Ben is only around the corner……

  20. karla36 says: Jan 24, 2012 9:10 AM

    Uh oh. “Ben is unhappy.” Hope he doesn’t take it out on some unsuspecting young lady!

  21. footballfan says: Jan 24, 2012 9:11 AM

    I hope Ben realizes that he doesn’t get to make personnel decisions. I remember way back when Cowher let Kordell Stewart interview a future O-Coordinator and that was a total bust. Not like Kordell wasn’t a bust himself…

  22. kazra182 says: Jan 24, 2012 9:12 AM

    Good Riddance.

    -Most of Steelers Nation.

  23. ottograham says: Jan 24, 2012 9:12 AM

    this is an unfortunate thing especially in the time of Coach Wilsons injuries he sustained a few weeks back. I did enjoy watching the offense that Arians would put together, but I will say I have never seen a group of players offensively with so much skill and sucha lack of communication. For some reason they rarely seem to be on the same page. We need someone to place some continuity in our scheme.

  24. eyeamlegend says: Jan 24, 2012 9:12 AM

    Head coach and QB like the guy. Offense has been consistent Super Bowl contender constantly adding new contenders. Unless Ben just sucks at reading defenses, the O-Line pass protection doesn’t really fall on the O-Coordinator…ummm *scratches head* This a tough one.

  25. pekkle007 says: Jan 24, 2012 9:13 AM

    Dear Lovie, can we pls hire this guy as our passing game coordinator?

  26. wldkat says: Jan 24, 2012 9:13 AM

    I’ll tell you why they let Arians go. You can’t have a 100 million dollar QB being banged up every year come playoff time. 1) run the ball more 2) ben has to get rid of the ball quicker.

  27. randygnyc says: Jan 24, 2012 9:18 AM

    Ben will be using this as an excuse to rape, again, in 3-2-1.

  28. napoleonblownapart6887 says: Jan 24, 2012 9:21 AM

    The reason he was let go is three fold:
    1) Production: given the talent at the skill positions this offense should have been able to do some incredible things. People will say the O-Line stopped them from being able to do more, but that brings me to point #2…
    2) Lack of adjustments: routinely during games Arians would not make adjustments at half-time to his game plan when the other team’s defense showed them something they weren’t expecting. The same was the case when he refused to mold his offense when Steelers O-Linemen started dropping like flys.
    3) Situational Play-calling: of the three I think this where Arians gets a bit of a bad wrap. A lot of times I think the execution left something to be desired in the redzone and on 3rd down, but there were also a number of times when fans were left scratching their heads on some of the play-calls. Pitches and other plays that risk losing yards on the edge of field goal range, long developing routes on plays when defenses were going to be bringing heat.

    So yeah, that’s why you weren’t offered another contract.

  29. paulieorkid says: Jan 24, 2012 9:21 AM

    The key problem with the Steeler offense was a shoddy OL to start with — that was made worse by injury. Best OT Colon out for season before game 1. Best OL period Pouncey out during a key stretch of games the Steelers did not fare well in.

    The Pouncey injury was particularly troublesome, given that Pouncey could have been healthy for the post-season — except he was rushed out way too soon for a high ankle sprain … very predictably ruining his season.

    Ben was also hobbled — again, by being RUSHED out far too early for a high ankle sprain of his own … again, ruining Ben’s season, and the Steelers. Another self-predicted wound as predictable as a Swiss watch. Ben could have been healthy going into the playoffs. Again, not Arians’ fault.

    [I still don't know why we pushed Ben out onto the field - he could barely move, could not step into his throws creating wildly errant throws, and was a liability. We had the #1 defense in the league --- we should have leaned on it until Ben and Pouncey could fortify the offense in a meaningful way. Not hindsight --- was banging this drum at the inception of this foolishness.]

    Redman played well, but we also lost our leading rusher Mendenhall in the game we foolishly rushed Ben back. Would Mendy have blown his knee had we not Ben hobbling around with lunging handoffs that are beyond telegraphed.

    Again, not Arians’ fault – but he’s taking the fall for some misguided notion that we’re back in the 1970′s. Newsflash: the NFL legislated OUT the rules in place when the Steeler defense dominated the league, starting with the Mel Blount rule. The rules have only been more and more liberalized to the point where NFL passing records are falling like raindrops in a typhoon.

  30. Mr. Wright 212 says: Jan 24, 2012 9:21 AM

    Roethlisberger is not a Top 5 QB, can you STOP with that nonsense???

  31. bdb808757 says: Jan 24, 2012 9:24 AM

    Arians was let go because he was unable to do a few things while Ben was on one foot. Implementing Dennis Dixon into a wild-cat formation would have been an option; run more screen plays is another.

    Ben preferred Arians from day one. Arians came into the system and gave Ben all the freedom. However, sometimes you must implement a new perspective into the offense in order to progress, and as a Steelers fan, I was disappointed with the vanilla offense given the amount of weapons, and I also think the Ravens have a better understanding of who we are as an offense. I agree with the organization by turning the page.

  32. pghguyy says: Jan 24, 2012 9:29 AM

    He was told twice about the run game needing to be better. He didnt listen or couldnt do tge job. Thats y he was fired.

  33. steelers4life says: Jan 24, 2012 9:31 AM

    6250claimer says:
    Jan 24, 2012 8:55 AM
    Arians won’t be out of work long. Look for him to join Ken Whisenhunt on the Cardinals staff by next week. MARK IT!

    ————————————————-

    Oh wow! That will make the Cardinals a powerhouse.

  34. steelers4life says: Jan 24, 2012 9:33 AM

    Ben needs someone to provide direction. Arians was his Yes Man. I don’t believe teams will be beating down his door to come out of retirement.

  35. svcfilmguy says: Jan 24, 2012 9:34 AM

    As a Steelers fan, I believe that Roethlisberger should have some input into who is hired as the OC. Every starting QB in the league should be afforded that courtesy. It will effect him more than any other player, so at the very least there should be some assurance that the new QB will be on the same page with the coach and coordinator. Fair enough.

    But, it is not the front office’s job to cater to every whim of their starting QB. Arians wasn’t working out. I understand wanting to protect your friends, but this is business. It’s time for fresh blood. Deal with it, Ben. You’re a TOP 5 QB (didja hear that, Wright?), so make due with what you’re given.

  36. bigblaw says: Jan 24, 2012 9:36 AM

    3rd and 1 …after two running plays ….Let’s go 5 wide on our own 25 …they won’t know what’s coming …thanks Bruce

  37. paulieorkid says: Jan 24, 2012 9:36 AM

    Apparently, Art Rooney II thinks it’s 1974 again.

    It’s not.

    Even the Steelers of 1978 made very obvious changes to their offense to adapt to the NFL’s liberalization of the passing game. And their ability to adapt and lean on Bradshaw, Swann and Stallworth were key reasons they pulled in two more Lombardis.

    But Art Rooney II reportedly wants us to “go back to our ‘blue collar’ roots.”

    Huh???

    Ohhhhhh man.

    It’s just so amazing when misguided people (especially those in some form of power) think the solution to a problem is so obvious …. completely obvious to the folly in their absurdly over-simplified “analysis.”

    Moving forward, if Tom Clements is available, give him a reeeeal good look – though he might be off the table given (real soon) now that Philbin signed down in Miami.

  38. napgamer says: Jan 24, 2012 9:38 AM

    I can give you several reasons BA.

    1. Wide receiver screens that never work.
    2. Using Mendenhall instead of redman. Mendenhall can hit a home run now and then but redman usually can ground out 3 to 4 yards a carry. Give me a steady running game instead of a back that dances too much and loses ground most of the time.
    3. The lack of short quick passing game when needed.
    4. No ability to get in in the endzone when in the red zone.

    Ben maybe mad but with a consistent running game he will be alot more effective.

  39. cardmagnet says: Jan 24, 2012 9:47 AM

    Ben’s mad because Arians let him be the big bad gunslinger, and he couldn’t cut it.

  40. muckman207 says: Jan 24, 2012 9:53 AM

    Ben is Flabbergasted!

  41. fittytuckin says: Jan 24, 2012 10:07 AM

    The reality is that “To Catch a Roethlisberger” really is not an elite quarterback. If he is contained in the the pocket it really shows how below average he is as a pocket passer. The only thing that makes him a top 10 qb is his ability to extend plays. Without that he is essentially Byron Leftwich.

  42. Henry says: Jan 24, 2012 10:08 AM

    Yet another organization in turmoil!
    Good luck next year fellas!

  43. GG Eden says: Jan 24, 2012 10:11 AM

    What we’re seeing is the belated implosion of the Steelers.

  44. dachozen1 says: Jan 24, 2012 10:15 AM

    I was unhappy the Steelers kept the same OC when Ben’s maturity flatlined after his 3rd year. I was unhappy when Ben’s favorite play was getting hit by a defender, shaking him off, rolling left then right, jumping over a lineman on the grown and throwing a dart across the body for a 1st down. It was great the 1st 3 yrs but it’s time for him to get in the film room and cut that crap out about how his style is different. That’s code word for lazy because he can throw quickly when he wants. Look at game he played against the Patriots this yr.

  45. realitypolice says: Jan 24, 2012 10:15 AM

    fat4jc says:
    Jan 24, 2012 9:02 AM
    not the brightest person is he?

    The Steelers gave him a chance to walk away “retired”, instead he confirms he was fired.

    So he lets the fake retirement story stand, and then when he takes another job people like you blast him for lying about retiring.

  46. citizenstrange says: Jan 24, 2012 10:16 AM

    10 days to prepare for the 49ers and getting only three points.

  47. tashkalucy says: Jan 24, 2012 10:16 AM

    A quality O-Line can make an OC far smarter.

    Was time for the Steeler machine to regenerate. next up – Dick LeBeau.

    Old guys get injured easier and stay injured longer.

    The way to build an NFL team is from the lines, to the remainder of the defense, and then the skill positions. The Steelers have to skill positions in place, but none of the others are young and strong anymore.

    This is the beginning of the Steeler rebuild. Perhaps they can do it on the fly. But they’ll no longer have the luxury to let the young guys play back-up for a year or two as they are slowly brought along into the NFL.

    Steelers take a step back. Question is – for how long?

  48. svcfilmguy says: Jan 24, 2012 10:28 AM

    fittytuckin says:
    Jan 24, 2012 10:07 AM
    The reality is that “To Catch a Roethlisberger” really is not an elite quarterback. If he is contained in the the pocket it really shows how below average he is as a pocket passer. The only thing that makes him a top 10 qb is his ability to extend plays. Without that he is essentially Byron Leftwich.

    *Yawn*

  49. bigtganks says: Jan 24, 2012 10:53 AM

    I don’t know why Arians doesn’t know why. It’s pretty clear…

  50. peytonwantsaflag says: Jan 24, 2012 10:53 AM

    Oh I can tell Brucey exactly why – It’s because his “Buddy” only a year away from a scandal that embarrassed the owner, damaged the franchise and nearly cost him his job decides he has the power to tell said owner who he can and can’t hire.

    That’s why.

  51. pftcensorssuck says: Jan 24, 2012 10:55 AM

    The Steelers were completely irrelevent this year ……

    do you really NEED any other reason?

    We’ve got the Colts in total disarray, the Yets and Dolphins as well, and now some tremors in Pittsburgh

    It’s a GREAT time to be a Patriot’s fan!!!!!!

  52. originalsteelcurtain says: Jan 24, 2012 10:57 AM

    Guess we won’t see you at Ben’s HOF induction, fittytucker!!!
    —————————————————-

    Brucie not sure why he was fired?

    Arians under-achieved big-time relative to the talent he had. 22nd in the league in scoring with a Pro Bowl QB, 2 Pro Bowl WR’s , a Pro-Bowl Center, rock-solid TE and running backs is a big failure.

    Bye Brucie, the best you can hope for is inclusion into the Hall of Mediocrity. Only your SB appearances are keeping you from the Hall of Suckitude.

    It will be really hard for the Steelers to hire someone worse than Bruce Arians.

  53. tikibarbersthesaurus says: Jan 24, 2012 11:00 AM

    In other news, Roethisberger has downgraded himself to Doubtful for Week 1 of next season with two broken femurs, a fractured skull, malaria, and terminal pancreatic cancer, but is still expected to play so we can all gush over how tough he is.

  54. karla36 says: Jan 24, 2012 11:05 AM

    @tikibarbersthesaurus–Now that’s funny, except for the cancer part. But I get it and thanks for making me laugh out loud!!

  55. superpittfan says: Jan 24, 2012 11:06 AM

    Here’re my complaints with BA’s work as offensive coordinator:

    I think Arians is decent as an OC, but not great. He’s got good creativity coming up with new pass schemes and packages, but he’s got some flaws that irritate me.

    For one, he is quite predictable. He loves the wide receiver screen even though I’ve not seen one gain more than 12 yards this whole year. Defenses have seen it so much that one was intercepted (Ravens), others should have been, and the Denver one should have been a lost lateral.

    He needs to drill into Ben’s head that it’s OK to throw the ball away more often when no one is open. He got hurt on a play in which he had 8+ seconds to throw.

    He goes with an open backfield way too many times, leaving Ben open to being sacked, or at least hit and hurt. The offensive line is porous to begin with, so not having a back to pick up blitzers is very risky to the QB’s health.

    He doesn’t take advantage of known plays to defuse a strong pass rush like draw plays, regular screen passes (not WR screens), swing passes to backs, or shovel passes. I don’t understand why not. Mendenhall catches very well.

    He rarely seems to stick with successful running schemes. Sometimes they find some effective runs, but instead of sticking with them till the defense adjusts to stop them (or fails to), he leaves them to work in some passes. This reduces the value of the play action pass. He also does this with passes to Heath Miller that are very effective early in the game, but then disappear from the offense for no apparent reason.

  56. goddamnthatsfunny says: Jan 24, 2012 11:07 AM

    how many women will Roethlisberger rape this off season? Allegedly of course, just like MJ and OJ if you cant convict him he is innocent but of course we all know the truth ;)

  57. bolgheri says: Jan 24, 2012 11:14 AM

    napoleonblownapart6887 says:
    Jan 24, 2012 9:21 AM
    The reason he was let go is three fold:
    1) Production: given the talent at the skill positions this offense should have been able to do some incredible things. People will say the O-Line stopped them from being able to do more, but that brings me to point #2…
    2) Lack of adjustments: routinely during games Arians would not make adjustments at half-time to his game plan when the other team’s defense showed them something they weren’t expecting. The same was the case when he refused to mold his offense when Steelers O-Linemen started dropping like flys.
    3) Situational Play-calling: of the three I think this where Arians gets a bit of a bad wrap. A lot of times I think the execution left something to be desired in the redzone and on 3rd down, but there were also a number of times when fans were left scratching their heads on some of the play-calls. Pitches and other plays that risk losing yards on the edge of field goal range, long developing routes on plays when defenses were going to be bringing heat.

    So yeah, that’s why you weren’t offered another contract.
    ————————————————–

    1. Agreed, 2. Agreed ….
    3. hmmm. If everyone watching the game can predict what is likely to be the next play called, who’s to blame for the lack of creativity or predictability of the offensive play calling ? I believe this is /was the biggest issue with the offense the last 3 years…(in addition to addressing the starting talent on the O-line)
    It is possible from the currently available talent for the Steelers to be in the top 5 scoring teams in the league.

  58. pdmjr says: Jan 24, 2012 11:24 AM

    Arians said that Ben is “not happy”

    That’s different than unhappy

    Just a way to get us to read this.

    Give Ben a healthy line and Arians would be getting offers to call plays everywhere

  59. rmm1984 says: Jan 24, 2012 11:25 AM

    All the talent you could ask for to work with on offense and not in the top 20 in scoring. That’s why Arians is gone.

  60. yogikenobi says: Jan 24, 2012 11:29 AM

    The only play the Steelers can execute is the WR screen. Everything else is a broken play! Big run? Was a cutback. Big pass? Was Ben running for his life and winging it. How many teams get illegal formations every game?

  61. gnutella0 says: Jan 24, 2012 11:29 AM

    A quote for fittytucker:

    “One of the big myths about Roethlisberger – and again, this comes from watching every play – is that all his big plays come from outside the pocket. That is very far from the truth. That’s a myth. The large, large majority of his plays come from within the pocket. It’s just that we see on SportsCenter nine thousand times all those plays when he’s outside the pocket, so the perception is that’s what he does. But for the most part, the large majority of what he does comes from throws within the pocket area.”

    -Greg Cosell, NFL Films analyst

  62. goawayeverybody says: Jan 24, 2012 11:43 AM

    Um….. so the Steelers defense gave up 29 points to TEBOW and like 10,000 yards and it’s the OFFENSIVE COORDINATOR who gets the boot? Are you kidding me?

    And Big Ben was Bigtime awful in that game. Geez.

    But I’m happy the Steelers’ organization is so clueless because I hate the Steelers and I look forward to them going 8-8 next season.

  63. dontstabmeray says: Jan 24, 2012 11:46 AM

    For all you who are saying he was a scapegoat for the offensive line……he wasn’t…..what he was boils down to the fact that he knew our O-line stunk big time, yet didn’t call plays to try and compensate for it. When your O-line is that bad you need to call more 3 step drops and slant passes. If you watched our offense this year Arians was ALWAYS trying to go deep or trying for 20+ yard plays. He just couldn’t adjust.

  64. nannymcsack says: Jan 24, 2012 11:52 AM

    may have something to do with being 22nd in the league in scoring.

  65. olcap says: Jan 24, 2012 11:52 AM

    Arians sounds needy, and makes himself look like a child that just didn’t get his way. Totally classless for him to whine about this.

    I’m sure that everyone understands the whining though; it’s because he knows he’ll never get another gig at being an OC, let alone, a head coaching gig. I think most teams are aware enough to pass on this guy.

  66. bdb808757 says: Jan 24, 2012 11:57 AM

    6250claimer says:
    Jan 24, 2012 8:55 AM
    Arians won’t be out of work long. Look for him to join Ken Whisenhunt on the Cardinals staff by next week. MARK IT!
    ——————-

    Bruce was not the Coordinator during the time Ken W. and Russ G.’s tenure in Pittsburgh.

  67. realfootballfan says: Jan 24, 2012 12:01 PM

    This is Ron Erherdt part II.

    They want to get back to their long held franchise philosophical identity to smash mouthed football at the expense of an aerial attack that’s been working.

    However, people say only the “dysfunctional” franchises pick the coordinators and direction of their teams (Raiders under Al Davis, Dolphins, etc), but I guess it happens in Pittsburgh too except it’s not convenient to bring them up since they have success.

  68. cliverush says: Jan 24, 2012 12:17 PM

    The Steelers track record speaks for itself. Doubting what they do now is a reach for critics. The Rooneys run a first class operation.

  69. 92and94and51and56 says: Jan 24, 2012 12:31 PM

    Napgamer.

    You nailed it.

  70. rexismybff says: Jan 24, 2012 12:38 PM

    The owner told him year after year to develop a fullback and improve the running game. And instead, the running game performed worse each year, and there was a greater and greater reliance on a crappy pass-blocking o-line and a battered and bruised qb.

    That’s why he is gone. Along with the idiot pass call in last year’s Super Bowl that resulted in a pick 6 that were the game winning points for GB. But I would bet that Whizenhut would make room for him.

  71. fittytuckin says: Jan 24, 2012 12:59 PM

    A quote for gnutella0:

    “Just cause you pour syrup on s***, don’t make it pancakes”

  72. vincentbojackson says: Jan 24, 2012 1:11 PM

    The league is results oriented. Arians didn’t get the offensive results he should have with all of the quality players he had to work with.

  73. mattmillen4president says: Jan 24, 2012 1:12 PM

    I have been absolutely terrible at jobs in my past, and wasn’t shocked even once when I got fired.

  74. steeelfann says: Jan 24, 2012 1:17 PM

    Not sure if I can make you completely understand Bruce, but here is your red zone offense inside the 10.

    Split 4-5 guys wide, fade Ben back to look around.

    That is it, in a nutshell.

    Similar to the kids playing in a field.

  75. Deb says: Jan 24, 2012 1:38 PM

    @paulieorkid …

    Have to disagree with you this time. Why did the Steelers push Ben out onto the field when he shouldn’t have been there? According to Tomlin, it’s because “he wanted to play and I wanted to support him.” And his poor decisionmaking in that instance ended our season. I love Tomlin, but when this team blindly caters to Roethlisberger’s whims, things go terribly, terribly wrong.

    No, it’s not 1974. No, we can’t rely on defense alone. Yes, we have to adapt to the modern passing game just like everyone else. But balance still wins ballgames. Arians was capable of calling a great game. However, he wasn’t capable of adjusting when things went wrong. He was stubborn–just like his protege. Ben isn’t 24 anymore. He can’t keep taking the abuse and wriggling his way out of it. He’s got to focus more on STUDY and PREP and making the right reads.

    Having a healthy offensive line is critical. You’re right–Arians isn’t to blame for that. We significantly overpaid for Colon, who hasn’t played a game in two years, and I’m starting to worry about Pouncey’s durability. Kemo’s so undisciplined, he should just carry his own flags. I hope he’s finally out the door. Kugler’s done a great job of making something from nothing, but it’s time Colbert gave him some help.

    Clements isn’t available–the Pack just promoted him. But Arians and Ben were too symbiotic. Rooney made the right move.

  76. bunkmcnulty says: Jan 24, 2012 1:48 PM

    Sometimes, there comes a time when you need to make a change. Tough to blame the offensive struggles solely on Arians when for two years your Oline has been hurt, depleted or both. Laughable the comment about adjusting to an injured/depleted line. First, your QB’s style is to hold the ball and take hits. How do you get Ben to stop doing that? Second, if your line gets so depleted with limited talent there are only so many schemes to adjust to.

    The toughest losses you suffered this year were defensive failures. Not so sure Mendenhall would be my RB of the future either. You have a good organization and with a healthy Ben you will always be in the hunt. But not sure removing Arians solves your issues.

  77. ampatsisahypocrite says: Jan 24, 2012 1:48 PM

    The reality is that if you can’t recognize what a true franchise QB Roethlisberger is, you’re a moron.

    In related news, the Baltimore Ravens will never go to the Super Bowl with non-franchise QB Joe Flacco.

  78. t1mmy10 says: Jan 24, 2012 1:57 PM

    Maybe it had to do with the steelers only averaging 20 pts/gm (21st in the league). It’s their worst offensive production in 8 years, yet they still managed to send 4 players to the pro bowl on offense…so I doubt talent was an issue.

  79. celebrator1 says: Jan 24, 2012 2:10 PM

    From the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette, September 09′:
    Mike Tomlin spent time between the Super Bowl and training camp studying offenses in the NFL and found one he would like the Steelers to emulate: the New England Patriots.

    “I think the great teams are capable of winning in many forms or fashion and playing to their strengths on a week-to-week basis based on a matchup,” Tomlin said yesterday. “I thought a great deal about that, frankly, this offseason.

    “You study a team like New England, and they walk into a stadium offensively, and week to week they can be whatever they choose to be. They can beat you in three wides, four wides, three tight ends, and it makes them very difficult to prepare for and ultimately beat.”

    Who wouldn’t want to have an offense like that? The last time the Patriots went through a season with Tom Brady at quarterback (2007), they scored 589 points, an average of 36.8 per game when they went 18-0 right up until the New York Giants upset them in Super Bowl XLII.

    Brady threw 50 touchdown passes and for 4,806 yards, and the Patriots scored 17 more touchdowns rushing with 1,849 yards on the ground that season.

    The Steelers’ offense has a long way to go to reach those proportions, but it does not mean Tomlin and coordinator Bruce Arians cannot aspire to it.

    “We’ve got a desire to win a bunch of games,” Tomlin said. “We’ve got a bunch of guys capable of making plays. We’ve got three and four wideouts that we’re comfortable with, two and three tight ends that we’re comfortable with, two or three backs that we’re comfortable with. We want to create that same persona.”

    The Steelers have not accomplished that goal on offense after two games. They rank in the middle of the pack in the NFL (16th) in total yards and 29th in total points (27).

    They also have not struck the kind of balance Tomlin would like to see them achieve. They average 262 yards passing per game and just 70.5 rushing. They have attempted 84 passes (six resulting in sacks) and 45 runs, three of them scrambles by quarterback Ben Roethlisberger.

  80. Deb says: Jan 24, 2012 2:17 PM

    @ampatsisahypocrite …

    That’s just it. Roethlisberger is a true franchise QB, and he needs a fresh perspective at OC to help him move up to the next level instead of someone who’s just going to make him comfortable where he is. The guy has extraordinary natural talent, but he doesn’t push himself enough.

  81. mantra2 says: Jan 25, 2012 12:25 AM

    Why are the pundits in Pittsburgh distraught beyond repair if the Steelers ever have a defense out of the top 5 let alone the top 10 and yet here we are again? We have a middling or worse offense especially when it comes to scoring, 21st in the league. Why is the Pittsburgh media so enamored with Arians when he has never produced a top NFL offense since he has been here? Should we not expect excellence from our offense as our defense ages and the league pushes hard for offenses to score points especially in the passing game?
    We have top tier talent at the skill positions and all we need is a shored up offensive line and a coach who actually knows how to use it. Look at Clements of Green Bay. His starting QB Rogers goes down and the backup scores more points and touchdowns than Ben Roethlisberger did all year.
    Ben needs tough love not a coddling fishing buddy. We need a change of philosophy where we not only expect a number one defense but a number one offense not one just good enough to get by in the hopes the defense can hold down the other guy.

  82. quittsburghstoolers says: Jan 25, 2012 3:28 PM

    cliverush says:Jan 24, 2012 12:17 PM

    The Steelers track record speaks for itself. The Rooneys run a first class operation.

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    Ask Terry Bradshaw how “classy” the team was his final season there.

    Too bad you can’t ask Mike Webster about how classy they were. He did so much for them while he was playing yet they did nothing to help him when he was sick and living in his vehicle. And the main reason he was ill is because of the many head injuries he suffered during his time with the team.

    Ask all those co-eds how classy they think the Steelers organization is. The team’s QB did what he did and the team doesn’t get rid of him because they are more interested in winning football games than doing what’s right.

    Seems to be a trend here. Let’s not do the right thing, let’s do whatever it takes to win ballgames and to hell with anyone who might get hurt in the bargain.

    That’s “classy”? Gimme a break…

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