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Broncos lament loss of Dennis Allen to Raiders

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More than 20 years ago, the Raiders pilfered from the Broncos an assistant coach named Mike Shanahan.  Oakland’s most recent raid on Denver has yielded the team’s new head coach, former Broncos defensive coordinator Dennis Allen.

Though the Shanahan situation worked out well in the end for the Broncos, what with Shanahan later returning to become the head coach and leading Denver to its only Super Bowl wins, current members of the team acknowledge that Oakland’s gain will be their loss.

“He knew how to get us ready,” cornerback Champ Bailey told NFL Network, via the San Francisco Chronicle.  “I give him a lot of credit for the success we had this year. . . .  He’s one of the most intense coaches I’ve had.

“I know what type of team he’s going to have.  Very intense, hard-nosed, tough.  That’s the way he is.  That’s what I expect his team to be.”

Linebacker Von Miller agreed.  “They’re getting a guy that’s going to come in right away, and he’s going to get it done,” Miller told NFL Network. “That’s what he did for us.  He came in, he laid out a plan for us, he told us, ‘This is how we’re going to do it, and this will work,’ and that’s what happened. We improved our defense an incredible amount. . . .  I think he’ll do the same thing with the Oakland Raiders.”

Raiders fans asking “Dennis Who?” should keep that in mind.  Instead of latching on to an established name (i.e., someone who has been fired from an NFL head-coaching job), the Raiders are trying to find the next big-name coach before he becomes the next big-name coach.

Hopefully, that’ll happen for the Raiders before Allen is fired and later becomes the Broncos’ head coach and leads the team to back-to-back Super Bowl victories.

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33 Responses to “Broncos lament loss of Dennis Allen to Raiders”
  1. joetoronto says: Jan 25, 2012 7:22 AM

    Gotta laugh at Donkey fans talking trash about the hire, when their own players have nothing but good things to say about the guy.

  2. deanvernonwormer says: Jan 25, 2012 7:23 AM

    They make anybody a head coach these days. Mangini, Rex Ryan, Hue Jackson, Norv Turner.

    Heck, I should have gone into coaching. It sure beats the Dept. of Sanitation.

  3. worldwidebleater says: Jan 25, 2012 7:25 AM

    Don’t do it Dennis! Oakland is a black hole of suckitude. You’ll never be the same.

  4. jasncondit says: Jan 25, 2012 7:34 AM

    The NFL already has its next big name coach. Jim Schwartz. He took a Lions team that hadn’t see the playoffs in over a decade to the playoffs in 3 years. And he did it without Suh for 2 games, without Fairley for most of the season, and with Stafford having a broken index finger most of the season. When LeShore plays next season, we could have a young version of Bradshaw.

  5. okldr8daz says: Jan 25, 2012 7:35 AM

    Good Luck Coach Allen!
    Bring Back Raider Nation To The Top!

  6. icewalker946 says: Jan 25, 2012 7:37 AM

    Al Davis will get upset with something he does and fire him with a week left in the season.

    Oh, wait…..

  7. schilhater says: Jan 25, 2012 7:42 AM

    “Hopefully, that’ll happen for the Raiders before Allen is fired and later becomes the Broncos’ head coach and leads the team to back-to-back Super Bowl victories”

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    What a stupid thing to say considering Shanahan is an awful head coach and EVERYBODY knows he doesn’t win anything without Elway. What has Shanahan done since Elway retired?? That’s what I thought. so there is really no reason to even mention that except to be an a-hole.

  8. bosoulja82 says: Jan 25, 2012 7:58 AM

    Im not going to lie, reading this article has helped me to have more confidence in this hire.

    Im a true Raider fan and I will support my Head Coach and my new GM. Things are changing in Oakland and thats what we have needed.

    Lets give this duo(Mckenzie,Allen) a shot fellow members of the Raiders nation

    “Just Win Baby”

  9. eaglebobby says: Jan 25, 2012 8:10 AM

    So McKenzie is hitching his wagon to a DC whose players said “got them ready”, but whose defense gave up 390 points? Instead of going with someone like Winston Moss, who was a coach on a SB champion? Or Morenwheig, who oversaw progress on some of the game’s good QBs (notice I didn’t say GREAT)?

  10. 8man says: Jan 25, 2012 8:14 AM

    We, in PatriotNation, have been lamenting the loss of coordinators for some time. Finally, it happened to someone else and we got through the year with our staff intact.

    Oh, wait……

  11. jackntorres says: Jan 25, 2012 8:17 AM

    The Saints lament the loss of Dennis Allen to the Broncos. That and Darren Sharper retiring.

  12. johnnyjagfan says: Jan 25, 2012 8:29 AM

    This team’s problem was rushing defense. Maybe he’ll bring them around. Looking forward to seeing who is OC and see what direction they take at QB.

  13. 44mpo says: Jan 25, 2012 8:42 AM

    It is encouraging to hear the comments from the Broncos defensive players concerning Alln, especially him being a hard nosed coach. It is something urgently needed in The Nation. I had mixed feelings about letting Jackson go, and then to see the long list of candidates to replace him. But I think it may be a good thing. I said all season long, it wasn’t all the Tebow miracles that helped Denver, it was a great defense that really kept them in those games. If Allen was responsible for that, we could be on to something big here.
    The first thing though will be to bathe him to get that donco stench removed!
    GO NATION!!

  14. 1captain1 says: Jan 25, 2012 9:00 AM

    Here’s the stat comparrison that the biased PFT won’t show.

    Points allowed
    Dennis Allen Defense gave up 390 (9th worst)
    Bresnahan gave up 433 points (4th worst)

    Sacks
    Dennis the Menace: 41 sacks
    Moe of the 3 Stooges: 39 sacks
    (All the hype is over 3 sacks!?!?)

    Ints
    Dennis: 9 (just 1 of 5 teams to have single digits)
    Chuck: 18

    Forced Fumbles
    Dennis: 11
    Chuck: 7

    Yards per game given up
    Denver:…total: 357.8
    Oakland:…total 387.6

    Stats compiled from NFL.com in 8 minutes

  15. rdrs68 says: Jan 25, 2012 9:00 AM

    Note to donkey fans: Dennis did not dis your team by going to a hated rival-he took advantage of a rare opportunity to be an NFL HC. And for those who haven’t been paying attention: Al is dead and gone this ain’t your grandfathers Raiders anymore and the HC job will not be anywhere near the same as under the old boss.

  16. ready4doomboom says: Jan 25, 2012 9:04 AM

    As a Bronco fan of course we will talk trash on this hire! Are you shocked we wont? And if so.. you’re dumb!

    1) He went to the Raiders. ( Umm our rival )
    Makes it even more bitter, but thats a good thing.
    2) He is a great coach and good motivator.
    3) We didn’t even get a real off-season with him
    4) That makes 7 DC’s in 7 yrs for Denver

    I really liked Dennis Allen. But on the other hand Denver’s D still ranked in the 20’s!

  17. ryjodetroit says: Jan 25, 2012 9:08 AM

    I remember all the glowing remarks by former players when the Lions hired Rod Marinelli too.

  18. rollerino1 says: Jan 25, 2012 9:28 AM

    No loyalty whatsoever in the NFL. Teams don’t even give HC’s a chance to become great coaches before they send them packing. And he goes to a division rival, no less.

  19. raiderapologist says: Jan 25, 2012 9:30 AM

    eaglebobby says: Jan 25, 2012 8:10 AM

    So McKenzie is hitching his wagon to a DC whose players said “got them ready”, but whose defense gave up 390 points? Instead of going with someone like Winston Moss, who was a coach on a SB champion?

    Before the season Denver was expected to be a 2-4 win team in need of a rebuild. It shouldn’t be surprising that they gave up a ton of points. And the word on Moss is he isn’t ready. McKenzie would know more about his potential than any of us.

  20. raiderlyfe510 says: Jan 25, 2012 9:40 AM

    It’s a “wait and see” approach for me.

    I’m more for the Offensive minded/QB developing Head Coach. But Allen’s a Raider now so he has my full support.

  21. getthegleam says: Jan 25, 2012 9:52 AM

    Stats compiled from NFL.com in 8 minutes

    Hey champ since your a pro at NFL.com, how about you telling us what each teams stats were before last year. While Allen’s defense was only slightly better than our’s last year, according to your information, he took that defense from almost dead last to a winner. We however went from a top 10 defense in 2010 to trash this year. Allen has won everywhere he’s been. How about looking at the positives.

  22. tdk24 says: Jan 25, 2012 9:57 AM

    “1captain1 says:
    Jan 25, 2012 9:00 AM
    Here’s the stat comparrison that the biased PFT won’t show.

    Points allowed
    Dennis Allen Defense gave up 390 (9th worst)
    Bresnahan gave up 433 points (4th worst)

    Sacks
    Dennis the Menace: 41 sacks
    Moe of the 3 Stooges: 39 sacks
    (All the hype is over 3 sacks!?!?)

    Ints
    Dennis: 9 (just 1 of 5 teams to have single digits)
    Chuck: 18

    Forced Fumbles
    Dennis: 11
    Chuck: 7

    Yards per game given up
    Denver:…total: 357.8
    Oakland:…total 387.6

    Stats compiled from NFL.com in 8 minutes”

    You fail to mention that the Raiders have a pro offense. That automatically improves the Defenses numbers. This hire puts pressure on the Defense and that’s exactly what we need.

  23. godofwine330 says: Jan 25, 2012 10:09 AM

    The Raiders have had 8 head coaches now this century. EIGHT! That is just unbelievable. I wish this guy the best of luck, but it is extremely difficult to succeed in that organization as a head coach.

  24. milehigh85 says: Jan 25, 2012 10:28 AM

    As a Bronco fan I gotta say “congratulations Coach Allan… But I hope Denver kicks your a** twice a year for many many years to come!”

  25. raiders757 says: Jan 25, 2012 10:29 AM

    godofwine330 says: Jan 25, 2012 10:09 AM

    The Raiders have had 8 head coaches now this century. EIGHT! That is just unbelievable. I wish this guy the best of luck, but it is extremely difficult to succeed in that organization as a head coach.

    ————————–

    I don’t disagree with you at all, but your forgetting that there’s no Al Davis anymore, and the entire organization is changing before our eyes. It’s no longer going to be difficult for a coach to succeed in Oakland anymore, as there will be no more looking over ones shoulder to see if they’ve pisses Big Al off.

  26. denardsbig10inchdong says: Jan 25, 2012 10:33 AM

    people who are comparing defensive stats from the raiders defense this year to the bronco’s are forgetting one huge factor…the bronco’s offense (no offense) would sputter and punt the ball for the first 3 quarters of the game (more or less), therefor giving opposing offenses A TON more opportunities to gain yardage. this is where the bronco’s def would come up huge with a turnover in the red zone/a pick 6/a fumble recovery etc etc and then therefor lead to “tebow magic”, and get the W. the raiders offense (decent this year) would put together some good drives, and then allow opposing teams to run down the field on them all the same. comparing apples to oranges here…stats are stats but denver’s def looked a lot better then oaklands (given the fact they were on the field a lot more due to their 3/4th’s inept Qb-play. this is coming from a raiders fan.

  27. tashkalucy says: Jan 25, 2012 10:38 AM

    “Oh, wait……”

    has replaced

    “grow a pair”

    as the Inernet posting board cliche.

  28. radrntn says: Jan 25, 2012 11:30 AM

    reality is time will tell all, until then its all talk, good or bad.

    Bottom line I really wonder if reggie had “one of his guys”

  29. crise40g says: Jan 25, 2012 12:35 PM

    TBH, he wasn’t my first choice but what do I know, I just put the wet stuff on the red stuff for a living, not an NFL GM.

    I’m coming around on Coach Allen. His ex-players have nothing good to say about him. He sounds like a disciplinarian, which the Raiders really really need. And he’s a defensive minded coach. An area that needs ton’s of help. That Raiders D couldn’t stop nobody last season putting too much pressure on the offense.

    People should realize that this isn’t gonna be the same old Raiders. Al is gone. Like somebody posted previously, this isn’t your grandfather’s Oakland Raiders.

    Win, lose, or tie…Raiders til I die!

  30. torturedraiderfan says: Jan 25, 2012 1:43 PM

    I like this hire. The Raiders need help on defense and someone who can instill some discipline. Maybe the record-setting penalties will finally stop. Sounds like Allen is the type of coach that can fix these problems. Comparing stats of the Raider and Bronco defense is pointless. The problem with the Raider defense last year was the lack of discipline, stupid penalties (not in your stat comparisons) and the lack of game-time adjustments to the opposing offense, especially late in games. I put all that on the Raider coaches. I’m glad we made the change. Still, it would have been nice to see Cowher on the Raider sideline. He just seems like he fits the Raiders.

  31. wetpaperbag3 says: Jan 25, 2012 2:28 PM

    worldwidebleater says: Jan 25, 2012 7:25 AM

    Don’t do it Dennis! Oakland is a black hole of suckitude. You’ll never be the same.
    —————————————
    …And the Broncos have done what exactly in the last 6 years?

  32. vegasbronco says: Jan 25, 2012 6:42 PM

    EFX made a HUGE error by not offering Dennis the title of DC/Asst HC.
    IMO Dennis would take over HC in 2013. John Fox is NOT the future. He and Tebow may survive 2012 but not 2013.
    Broncos need to get there offense into the current century. Kreese and Brian need to step forward.

  33. bulldogslc says: Jan 25, 2012 9:42 PM

    His defense made Tebow

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