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		<title>By: seldom1</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jan 2012 06:54:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This website is a disgrace. Shame!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This website is a disgrace. Shame!</p>
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		<title>By: tednancy</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[tednancy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jan 2012 03:34:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Randy Lerner broke off a local TV contract to televise Browns preseason  games simply because the news division refused to treat his rich sister any differently than anyone else who was guilty of negligence in a child&#039;s tragic death.

Grossi&#039;s biggest mistake it that he forgot that the Lerners are a bunch of twits who like to use their money to prove cheap points against their &quot;enemies.&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Randy Lerner broke off a local TV contract to televise Browns preseason  games simply because the news division refused to treat his rich sister any differently than anyone else who was guilty of negligence in a child&#8217;s tragic death.</p>
<p>Grossi&#8217;s biggest mistake it that he forgot that the Lerners are a bunch of twits who like to use their money to prove cheap points against their &#8220;enemies.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: rushbacker</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jan 2012 09:24:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[fumblenuts says:
Jan 26, 2012 4:50 PM
Take a good LONG look at that picture and think about the last decade….

I think he called it like he saw it. Sometimes in life the truth hurts, but at the same time sets you free.
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Absolutely.  He told the truth as he saw it, and it set him free of his responsibility to cover the Browns beat.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>fumblenuts says:<br />
Jan 26, 2012 4:50 PM<br />
Take a good LONG look at that picture and think about the last decade….</p>
<p>I think he called it like he saw it. Sometimes in life the truth hurts, but at the same time sets you free.<br />
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<p>Absolutely.  He told the truth as he saw it, and it set him free of his responsibility to cover the Browns beat.</p>
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		<title>By: CKL</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[CKL]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jan 2012 08:12:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[tashkalucy says:
Jan 26, 2012 6:51 PM

People that do business with him and work for him don’t feel that way at all.
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Not all people.

Didn&#039;t he 86 ch 19&#039;s coverage of Browns preseason games after their news program presented what he considered a bad slant on his sister&#039;s daughter dying  due to her own negligence?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>tashkalucy says:<br />
Jan 26, 2012 6:51 PM</p>
<p>People that do business with him and work for him don’t feel that way at all.<br />
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Not all people.</p>
<p>Didn&#8217;t he 86 ch 19&#8242;s coverage of Browns preseason games after their news program presented what he considered a bad slant on his sister&#8217;s daughter dying  due to her own negligence?</p>
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		<title>By: joyjoy69</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jan 2012 07:06:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Come on, let&#039;s be completely honest here!  The fact is that he was removed from the beat because he is no longer in a position to cover it.  Fair or not, he will never have access to the people that will give him the information he needs to do his job.  Whatever the cause of the mistake, it is what it is.  If a fighter pilot accidentally falls and pokes his eye out, he can&#039;t do the job anymore.  It has nothing to do with fair, it has to do with what it takes to do the job and whether he has that.  The fact this effect comes out of something he chose to do rather than a pure accident is no reason to feel MORE sorry for him.  His job is to get people in the Browns organization to talk with him and give him information that he can report.  He can&#039;t do that job anymore.  So the paper is going to pay someone else to do it.  End of story.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Come on, let&#8217;s be completely honest here!  The fact is that he was removed from the beat because he is no longer in a position to cover it.  Fair or not, he will never have access to the people that will give him the information he needs to do his job.  Whatever the cause of the mistake, it is what it is.  If a fighter pilot accidentally falls and pokes his eye out, he can&#8217;t do the job anymore.  It has nothing to do with fair, it has to do with what it takes to do the job and whether he has that.  The fact this effect comes out of something he chose to do rather than a pure accident is no reason to feel MORE sorry for him.  His job is to get people in the Browns organization to talk with him and give him information that he can report.  He can&#8217;t do that job anymore.  So the paper is going to pay someone else to do it.  End of story.</p>
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		<title>By: terryleather</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[terryleather]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jan 2012 04:29:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Randy didn&#039;t buy the Browns, his father Al did. Randy inherited them. Rather than sell the team to a cheapskate or idiot, he keeps it. And since he doesn&#039;t want to run the team like Jerry Jones, he brought in Mike Holmgren to do that. I could understand the insults if he was a jerk, but everything that I&#039;ve ever read about Randy makes him sound like a good guy. Grossi&#039;s comment was uncalled for, whether it was meant for one person or one million. His insult was public, his apology should have been too.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Randy didn&#8217;t buy the Browns, his father Al did. Randy inherited them. Rather than sell the team to a cheapskate or idiot, he keeps it. And since he doesn&#8217;t want to run the team like Jerry Jones, he brought in Mike Holmgren to do that. I could understand the insults if he was a jerk, but everything that I&#8217;ve ever read about Randy makes him sound like a good guy. Grossi&#8217;s comment was uncalled for, whether it was meant for one person or one million. His insult was public, his apology should have been too.</p>
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		<title>By: couldntthinkofaname</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jan 2012 03:45:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[hpac1337 says: Jan 26, 2012 4:45 PM

Randy Learner IS an irrelevant billionaire, and the Browns have been pathetic under his tenure as owner. And one of the reasons is that the puffball media in Cleveland never holds the organization’s feet to the fire for their inadequacies.

If anything, the Cleveland media should be more vocal and public with their feelings, instead of being lapdogs for the front office.

__________________________

Pathetic and irrelevant describes Browns fans, not Lerner.  You&#039;re the ones who keep running everybody who tries to build something out of town.  Then you whine and play the victims.

Been seeing this crap in person for over a decade here in Loser Land.  

It isn&#039;t Lerner&#039;s fault.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hpac1337 says: Jan 26, 2012 4:45 PM</p>
<p>Randy Learner IS an irrelevant billionaire, and the Browns have been pathetic under his tenure as owner. And one of the reasons is that the puffball media in Cleveland never holds the organization’s feet to the fire for their inadequacies.</p>
<p>If anything, the Cleveland media should be more vocal and public with their feelings, instead of being lapdogs for the front office.</p>
<p>__________________________</p>
<p>Pathetic and irrelevant describes Browns fans, not Lerner.  You&#8217;re the ones who keep running everybody who tries to build something out of town.  Then you whine and play the victims.</p>
<p>Been seeing this crap in person for over a decade here in Loser Land.  </p>
<p>It isn&#8217;t Lerner&#8217;s fault.</p>
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		<title>By: ernestbynershands</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jan 2012 03:18:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Grossi got canned for saying the same things I have posted here on numerous occassions.  
Randy Lerner is a pathetic irrelevant owner in the NFL.  
Lerner&#039;s passions are for art and English Football, not our football.  
Cleveland fans need to stop buying tickets, stop buying merchandise, stop spending money on the Browns.  He doesn&#039;t own the Browns because he is passionate about the team or the league.  He owns the franchise because the the stadium sells out and merchandise flies off the racks.  He keeps the payroll under cap, well under cap.  He doesn&#039;t care about victory margins nearly as much as profit margins.  
If Cleveland fans want change, they need to stop buying tickets, stop buying merchandise, stop spending money on the Browns. 
That will get Mr Lerner&#039;s attention.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Grossi got canned for saying the same things I have posted here on numerous occassions.<br />
Randy Lerner is a pathetic irrelevant owner in the NFL.<br />
Lerner&#8217;s passions are for art and English Football, not our football.<br />
Cleveland fans need to stop buying tickets, stop buying merchandise, stop spending money on the Browns.  He doesn&#8217;t own the Browns because he is passionate about the team or the league.  He owns the franchise because the the stadium sells out and merchandise flies off the racks.  He keeps the payroll under cap, well under cap.  He doesn&#8217;t care about victory margins nearly as much as profit margins.<br />
If Cleveland fans want change, they need to stop buying tickets, stop buying merchandise, stop spending money on the Browns.<br />
That will get Mr Lerner&#8217;s attention.</p>
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		<title>By: corvusrex96</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jan 2012 02:17:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[An opinion column would normally point to some fact as to why the writer believes the owner was ineffective , etc...

The tweet uncovered his personal bias toward Lerner by stating he was pathetic and irrelevant billionaire . It was a personal attack whether it was sent on purpose or not,  it was still out there.

How could anyone in the Browns organization deal with him anymore?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>An opinion column would normally point to some fact as to why the writer believes the owner was ineffective , etc&#8230;</p>
<p>The tweet uncovered his personal bias toward Lerner by stating he was pathetic and irrelevant billionaire . It was a personal attack whether it was sent on purpose or not,  it was still out there.</p>
<p>How could anyone in the Browns organization deal with him anymore?</p>
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		<title>By: Herb</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Herb]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jan 2012 01:33:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[How he hell does Jerry Sullivan still have a job? He says worse every single week!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How he hell does Jerry Sullivan still have a job? He says worse every single week!</p>
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		<title>By: pigbladder</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[pigbladder]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jan 2012 00:59:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Grossi accidentally put his message in the wrong box.&quot;

well, with that line of logic, he is lucky that he only was removed as browns beat writer. something like that could cost you your wife and family, your reputation, and a whole lot of alimony payments...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Grossi accidentally put his message in the wrong box.&#8221;</p>
<p>well, with that line of logic, he is lucky that he only was removed as browns beat writer. something like that could cost you your wife and family, your reputation, and a whole lot of alimony payments&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: coop16</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[coop16]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jan 2012 00:20:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think the criticism of Randy Lerner is largely misplaced.  Yes, the Browns have been terrible, but is it his fault?  There are egomaniac owners who try to run the whole show, usually with disastrous results.  Randy Lerner hasn&#039;t done that; he&#039;s stayed in the background, writing the checks and letting his football people make the football decisions.  Sounds like a pretty good owner to me.  His football people obviously haven&#039;t done the job, so maybe he hasn&#039;t made great hiring decisions, but you know, Vince Lombardi wasn&#039;t available; he had to settle for what he could get.  Randy Lerner grew up as a Browns fan and he&#039;s spent a lot of money trying to get the team on track.  I can think of a lot worse owners.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the criticism of Randy Lerner is largely misplaced.  Yes, the Browns have been terrible, but is it his fault?  There are egomaniac owners who try to run the whole show, usually with disastrous results.  Randy Lerner hasn&#8217;t done that; he&#8217;s stayed in the background, writing the checks and letting his football people make the football decisions.  Sounds like a pretty good owner to me.  His football people obviously haven&#8217;t done the job, so maybe he hasn&#8217;t made great hiring decisions, but you know, Vince Lombardi wasn&#8217;t available; he had to settle for what he could get.  Randy Lerner grew up as a Browns fan and he&#8217;s spent a lot of money trying to get the team on track.  I can think of a lot worse owners.</p>
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		<title>By: panchi2131</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[panchi2131]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jan 2012 00:02:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[no wonder terry pluto(another plain dealer sports reporter and probably the best) doesn&#039;t use twitter.

Now its only mary kate for twitter updates.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>no wonder terry pluto(another plain dealer sports reporter and probably the best) doesn&#8217;t use twitter.</p>
<p>Now its only mary kate for twitter updates.</p>
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		<title>By: tashkalucy</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[tashkalucy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jan 2012 23:51:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[What &quot;truth&quot; is it that Tony Grossi told about Randy Lerner/

That Mr. Lerner is an “irrelevant billionaire”?

People that do business with him and work for him don&#039;t feel that way at all.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What &#8220;truth&#8221; is it that Tony Grossi told about Randy Lerner/</p>
<p>That Mr. Lerner is an “irrelevant billionaire”?</p>
<p>People that do business with him and work for him don&#8217;t feel that way at all.</p>
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		<title>By: monkeesfan</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[monkeesfan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jan 2012 23:31:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Here&#039;s what&#039;s wrong here - Grossi is being punished for apparently telling the truth about Randy Lerner.   That the Browns have never gotten better since their 1999 rebirth outside of the 2002 playoff run and 2007&#039;s nice season should say something about Lerner&#039;s competence as an owner.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s what&#8217;s wrong here &#8211; Grossi is being punished for apparently telling the truth about Randy Lerner.   That the Browns have never gotten better since their 1999 rebirth outside of the 2002 playoff run and 2007&#8242;s nice season should say something about Lerner&#8217;s competence as an owner.</p>
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		<title>By: drbob117</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[drbob117]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jan 2012 23:22:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Plain Dealer=Browns house organ.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Plain Dealer=Browns house organ.</p>
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		<title>By: FU MAN JOE</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[FU MAN JOE]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jan 2012 23:08:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If you want to express your opinion, do it in an article and be prepared to back it up. You have no one to blame but yourself on this one.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you want to express your opinion, do it in an article and be prepared to back it up. You have no one to blame but yourself on this one.</p>
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		<title>By: slowclyde86</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[slowclyde86]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jan 2012 22:20:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Grossi was due for a change regardless of the tweet.   He had grown jaded and bitter, not that I necessarily blame him.  He was also mean-spirited towards fans in his weekly Hey Tony column, for which I do blame him.  

The pity is that what he expressed is, indeed, accurate.  If he had written a well-supported piece arguing that position with a more professional tone he would have been fine.  That&#039;s an article begging to be written, actually.  But that would have taken effort.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Grossi was due for a change regardless of the tweet.   He had grown jaded and bitter, not that I necessarily blame him.  He was also mean-spirited towards fans in his weekly Hey Tony column, for which I do blame him.  </p>
<p>The pity is that what he expressed is, indeed, accurate.  If he had written a well-supported piece arguing that position with a more professional tone he would have been fine.  That&#8217;s an article begging to be written, actually.  But that would have taken effort.</p>
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		<title>By: hikohadon</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[hikohadon]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jan 2012 22:14:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Randy Learner IS an irrelevant billionaire, and the Browns have been pathetic under his tenure as owner. And one of the reasons is that the puffball media in Cleveland never holds the organization’s feet to the fire for their inadequacies. 

If anything, the Cleveland media should be more vocal and public with their feelings, instead of being lapdogs for the front office.
______________

Yep.  That&#039;s the problem.  If the Cleveland puffball media just resorted to personal insults, then the Browns would finally try to win.

Makes perfect sense.  Can&#039;t believe I didn&#039;t think of it earlier.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Randy Learner IS an irrelevant billionaire, and the Browns have been pathetic under his tenure as owner. And one of the reasons is that the puffball media in Cleveland never holds the organization’s feet to the fire for their inadequacies. </p>
<p>If anything, the Cleveland media should be more vocal and public with their feelings, instead of being lapdogs for the front office.<br />
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<p>Yep.  That&#8217;s the problem.  If the Cleveland puffball media just resorted to personal insults, then the Browns would finally try to win.</p>
<p>Makes perfect sense.  Can&#8217;t believe I didn&#8217;t think of it earlier.</p>
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		<title>By: dcpowergator</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jan 2012 22:02:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[no wonder the author is so vehemently defending tony grossi... they both hate the browns and they both love trying to make something irrelevant into something bigger.  

grossi would be perfect on this site, he is biased and he is a great cutter and paster.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>no wonder the author is so vehemently defending tony grossi&#8230; they both hate the browns and they both love trying to make something irrelevant into something bigger.  </p>
<p>grossi would be perfect on this site, he is biased and he is a great cutter and paster.</p>
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		<title>By: fumblenuts</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[fumblenuts]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jan 2012 21:50:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Take a good LONG look at that picture and think about the last decade....

I think he called it like he saw it.   Sometimes in life the truth hurts, but at the same time sets you free.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Take a good LONG look at that picture and think about the last decade&#8230;.</p>
<p>I think he called it like he saw it.   Sometimes in life the truth hurts, but at the same time sets you free.</p>
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		<title>By: hpac1337</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jan 2012 21:45:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Randy Learner IS an irrelevant billionaire, and the Browns have been pathetic under his tenure as owner.  And one of the reasons is that the puffball media in Cleveland never holds the organization&#039;s feet to the fire for their inadequacies.  

If anything, the Cleveland media should be more vocal and public with their feelings, instead of being lapdogs for the front office.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Randy Learner IS an irrelevant billionaire, and the Browns have been pathetic under his tenure as owner.  And one of the reasons is that the puffball media in Cleveland never holds the organization&#8217;s feet to the fire for their inadequacies.  </p>
<p>If anything, the Cleveland media should be more vocal and public with their feelings, instead of being lapdogs for the front office.</p>
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		<title>By: arrowmint</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jan 2012 21:40:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I completely disagree with the PFT take here. Let me preface by saying I am not in Ohio, not a Browns fan, don&#039;t read the paper, don&#039;t have any vested interest.

What the reporter said was absolutely unprofessional. Reporters, even sports reporters, covering a beat, have to be objective. The content of the tweet was clearly not objective, it revealed utter contempt for one of the key people on his beat.

You also have to question this Grossi fellow&#039;s professionalism and ability to use the basic tools of the trade, for him to make such a horrible gaffe that he is publicly insulting one of the very people he is supposed to be objectively covering.

The managing editor on the podcast was correct: there are certain professional standards required and a certain level of objectivity is required. He is also correct saying the tweet was just a flat out, unprofessional insult, not an opinion.

Imagine if a White House pool reporter, for say NBC, who is just supposed to cover what happened on the beat, tweeted that &quot;the President is a despicable and irrelevant front-man for Goldman Sachs.&quot; Whether that&#039;s true or not is irrelevant - he would be destroying the perceived objectivity of NBC. NBC would have to remove him from covering the White House.

This is not a First Amendment issue, anyone who says that is sincerely confused about the Constitution. This is solely about professional conduct a journalistic code of ethics. If Grossi had said this in an opinion column and backed up his statement with facts, that&#039;d be fine. But there is a longstanding tradition in journalism to separate the editorial pages from the beat reporters. One provides opinion, the other facts.

It&#039;s interesting and not noted in this story that PFT itself, as a football blog, frequently and in fact constantly weaves opinion and editorializes on the news even as it reposts. But the vast majority of stories PFT is linking to are of the straight reporting kind, from the beat writers.

So PFT certainly blurs that line all the time and it&#039;s not surprising it is itself confused over the difference between reporting and editorializing. Or more likely they do know the difference, but also know that they receive more traffic precisely by blurring those lines.

But in a traditional newsroom environment like the Plain Dealer, the two are different beasts.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I completely disagree with the PFT take here. Let me preface by saying I am not in Ohio, not a Browns fan, don&#8217;t read the paper, don&#8217;t have any vested interest.</p>
<p>What the reporter said was absolutely unprofessional. Reporters, even sports reporters, covering a beat, have to be objective. The content of the tweet was clearly not objective, it revealed utter contempt for one of the key people on his beat.</p>
<p>You also have to question this Grossi fellow&#8217;s professionalism and ability to use the basic tools of the trade, for him to make such a horrible gaffe that he is publicly insulting one of the very people he is supposed to be objectively covering.</p>
<p>The managing editor on the podcast was correct: there are certain professional standards required and a certain level of objectivity is required. He is also correct saying the tweet was just a flat out, unprofessional insult, not an opinion.</p>
<p>Imagine if a White House pool reporter, for say NBC, who is just supposed to cover what happened on the beat, tweeted that &#8220;the President is a despicable and irrelevant front-man for Goldman Sachs.&#8221; Whether that&#8217;s true or not is irrelevant &#8211; he would be destroying the perceived objectivity of NBC. NBC would have to remove him from covering the White House.</p>
<p>This is not a First Amendment issue, anyone who says that is sincerely confused about the Constitution. This is solely about professional conduct a journalistic code of ethics. If Grossi had said this in an opinion column and backed up his statement with facts, that&#8217;d be fine. But there is a longstanding tradition in journalism to separate the editorial pages from the beat reporters. One provides opinion, the other facts.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s interesting and not noted in this story that PFT itself, as a football blog, frequently and in fact constantly weaves opinion and editorializes on the news even as it reposts. But the vast majority of stories PFT is linking to are of the straight reporting kind, from the beat writers.</p>
<p>So PFT certainly blurs that line all the time and it&#8217;s not surprising it is itself confused over the difference between reporting and editorializing. Or more likely they do know the difference, but also know that they receive more traffic precisely by blurring those lines.</p>
<p>But in a traditional newsroom environment like the Plain Dealer, the two are different beasts.</p>
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		<title>By: willyalistentothis</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jan 2012 21:30:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If his job for the paper is to cover the Browns, and the Browns will not give him access, what value does he have to the paper?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If his job for the paper is to cover the Browns, and the Browns will not give him access, what value does he have to the paper?</p>
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		<title>By: cliverush</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jan 2012 21:24:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You screw up, you lose. Just like everywhere else, except Washington DC.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You screw up, you lose. Just like everywhere else, except Washington DC.</p>
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		<title>By: captainspaulding22</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jan 2012 21:23:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@mjbulls45:

No one is saying Grossi was wrong; we&#039;re just saying it was incredibly dumb if he wanted to continue working as the Browns beat writer and that the PD had no choice but to remove him from his post.  Whether or not he wanted to continue working as the Browns beat writer is certainly debatable, however, given his history of lazy, uninspired, unprofessional coverage of the team.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@mjbulls45:</p>
<p>No one is saying Grossi was wrong; we&#8217;re just saying it was incredibly dumb if he wanted to continue working as the Browns beat writer and that the PD had no choice but to remove him from his post.  Whether or not he wanted to continue working as the Browns beat writer is certainly debatable, however, given his history of lazy, uninspired, unprofessional coverage of the team.</p>
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		<title>By: haroldoftherocks</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jan 2012 21:23:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;I’m continuing to write about this because it’s the kind of mistake that could happen to anyone,&quot;

Since I don&#039;t have a Facebook or a Twitter account, it&#039;s not going to happen to me!  Stay away from Facebook, Twitter, and most other social media and you don&#039;t have this problem.

I genuinely don&#039;t understand the fascination with Twitter.  I think it&#039;s one of the worst forms of &quot;communication&#039; ever developed.  You couldn&#039;t pay me to get a Twitter or Facebook account.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I’m continuing to write about this because it’s the kind of mistake that could happen to anyone,&#8221;</p>
<p>Since I don&#8217;t have a Facebook or a Twitter account, it&#8217;s not going to happen to me!  Stay away from Facebook, Twitter, and most other social media and you don&#8217;t have this problem.</p>
<p>I genuinely don&#8217;t understand the fascination with Twitter.  I think it&#8217;s one of the worst forms of &#8220;communication&#8217; ever developed.  You couldn&#8217;t pay me to get a Twitter or Facebook account.</p>
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		<title>By: sabeybaby</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[sabeybaby]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jan 2012 21:17:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Wasn&#039;t Grossi the same hack who got all righteous about the Phil Savage email?  I seem to remember him calling for Savage to be fired.  What goes around...comes around Grossi.  CPD made a big mistake by not firing this clown.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wasn&#8217;t Grossi the same hack who got all righteous about the Phil Savage email?  I seem to remember him calling for Savage to be fired.  What goes around&#8230;comes around Grossi.  CPD made a big mistake by not firing this clown.</p>
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		<title>By: jimbobobjr</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jan 2012 21:07:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The picture is very symbolic of the Browns franchise. He&#039;s throwing his hands up in utter disgust/defeat, tossing away the helmets.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The picture is very symbolic of the Browns franchise. He&#8217;s throwing his hands up in utter disgust/defeat, tossing away the helmets.</p>
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		<title>By: jackblackshairyback</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jan 2012 21:06:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[nflmademetweet says:Jan 26, 2012 3:14 PM 

don’t care if intentional or not, once it happens, it happens. once that sentiment is out, his credibility is tainted. plain dealer doesn’t need to explain their actions. it’s reasonable to expect that to be the necessary action, regardless of whether it’s an accident. 

it’s the same thing as email. double-check the recipients before clicking send. otherwise, your disparaging remark about an exec, to that exec, could lead to your termination. nothing new here.



Yep. Ask Phil Savage about that.

Once someone can prove the Browns pressured the PD, then I&#039;ll listen. Otherwise it&#039;s just speculation. The Browns dont need to comment. If they do, then they give the appearance that they can in fact decide who covers them or not. This isnt the first time Grossi has been removed from the position of beat reporter for the Browns, he has a track record of losing objectivity. That Twitter account was set up for him by the PD, he represented them. He&#039;s the idiot who made it public. 

Last week, Lerner gave an on-air interview to Mike Trivosonno, not Grossi. Grossi was of the opinion that when the owner of the team he covers speaks publicly, especially one who does so as rarely as lerner, it isnt his job to cover it. Or, he was miffed that HE didnt get the interview.

This isnt rocket science folks. Grossi&#039;s replies to Tweet questions were snarky, sarcastic, and sometimes downright rude. Grossi&#039;s lack of professionalism has been on display quite a few times.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>nflmademetweet says:Jan 26, 2012 3:14 PM </p>
<p>don’t care if intentional or not, once it happens, it happens. once that sentiment is out, his credibility is tainted. plain dealer doesn’t need to explain their actions. it’s reasonable to expect that to be the necessary action, regardless of whether it’s an accident. </p>
<p>it’s the same thing as email. double-check the recipients before clicking send. otherwise, your disparaging remark about an exec, to that exec, could lead to your termination. nothing new here.</p>
<p>Yep. Ask Phil Savage about that.</p>
<p>Once someone can prove the Browns pressured the PD, then I&#8217;ll listen. Otherwise it&#8217;s just speculation. The Browns dont need to comment. If they do, then they give the appearance that they can in fact decide who covers them or not. This isnt the first time Grossi has been removed from the position of beat reporter for the Browns, he has a track record of losing objectivity. That Twitter account was set up for him by the PD, he represented them. He&#8217;s the idiot who made it public. </p>
<p>Last week, Lerner gave an on-air interview to Mike Trivosonno, not Grossi. Grossi was of the opinion that when the owner of the team he covers speaks publicly, especially one who does so as rarely as lerner, it isnt his job to cover it. Or, he was miffed that HE didnt get the interview.</p>
<p>This isnt rocket science folks. Grossi&#8217;s replies to Tweet questions were snarky, sarcastic, and sometimes downright rude. Grossi&#8217;s lack of professionalism has been on display quite a few times.</p>
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