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Mankins on Super Bowl XLII: “That was four years ago. Next question.”

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For any members of the media working on a story comparing the Patriots-Giants matchup at Super Bowl XLVI with the Patriots-Giants matchup at Super Bowl XLII, you can skip right over Patriots guard Logan Mankins.

Mankins was asked at a press conference today to talk about the way the Giants’ defensive line pressured the Patriots in Super Bowl XLII, and he declined to talk about it.

“That was four years ago. Next question,” Mankins said.

Mankins is blunt, but he has a point. The teams are largely different now than they were four years ago. The Giants’ leading pass rusher, Jason Pierre-Paul, was a freshman at College of the Canyons when the 2007 Giants were making their run to the Super Bowl. The way the Patriots’ offensive line matched up with the Giants’ defensive line four years ago isn’t particularly relevant to how they’re going to match up this year.

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  1. steelbydesign says: Jan 27, 2012 2:54 PM

    You’re right, it’s not relevant, and none of the fans really care to hear about it… We all know what happened and remember it well.

    But that won’t stop the media from gushing about it up until kickoff.

  2. deepthreat says: Jan 27, 2012 2:55 PM

    Try matching up the OFFENSE. Brady won’t be a sitting duck waiting for Randy Moss to finish his 60 yard route. (Although not having Dan “Turnstile” Koppen at center will also help…)

  3. ls100 says: Jan 27, 2012 2:55 PM

    I think someone is still a little salty about that perfect season… Giants by 3, 31-28

  4. fcoprado says: Jan 27, 2012 2:58 PM

    That loss still hurts them,they feel the pressure to win,Poor Patriots,I dont pity them…they cheated my Rams in

  5. jrfrom508 says: Jan 27, 2012 2:58 PM

    Patriots will dominate this time around. Next question.

  6. homelanddefense says: Jan 27, 2012 2:59 PM

    I hope they move on, the line was awful in that game.

  7. nyyjetsknicks says: Jan 27, 2012 2:59 PM

    U mad bro?

  8. jakek2 says: Jan 27, 2012 3:02 PM

    How can you say it’s not relevant? All of NY’s pass rushers are the same except Strahan/JPP. If NE blocks these SAME pass rushers the way they did in 07′, this game will be over by halftime. Next journalist.

  9. fcoprado says: Jan 27, 2012 3:03 PM

    I hope they lose,To me they will always be cheaters.

  10. Patskrieg dot com says: Jan 27, 2012 3:06 PM

    Totally incomparable. Nick Kaczur does way more oxycontin now than he did in 2007.

  11. askbri says: Jan 27, 2012 3:07 PM

    He couldn’t hold back the pass rush then. Won’t be able to do it now. Understandble that he’s a little upset.

    Won’t want to talk about this one when it’s over, either.

    The past is a predictor of the future.

  12. willardj says: Jan 27, 2012 3:09 PM

    Sounds like he’s still pissed about it. There’s nothing wrong with seeing this Superbowl as a revenge game. That just adds more motivation if anything.

  13. bigdan7885 says: Jan 27, 2012 3:09 PM

    Taking the Rosenhaus approach I see…

  14. patsfiend says: Jan 27, 2012 3:16 PM

    And we get our first peek at the Belichick communications strategy regarding SB 42 that we’ll hear from every single Patriot from now until the game, just like we’ll hear “I have no idea, ask the trainers” whenever there is a Gronk injury question.

  15. rarson says: Jan 27, 2012 3:17 PM

    Seems like the press are the only people who don’t seem to understand that nobody cares about what happened 4 years ago.

    Football teams change from week to week, so it’s pretty absurd to compare anything after 4 years.

  16. Henry says: Jan 27, 2012 3:18 PM

    “All of NY’s pass rushers are the same except Strahan/JPP”
    ————————————

    Ok. so 2 out of the 4 defensive lineman are gone yet it’s the same rushers?
    Sure, ok dude.
    We’ll talk after the Giants lose, ok?

  17. 6ball says: Jan 27, 2012 3:19 PM

    .

    @jakek2

    Even if is the same exact personnel, they are not going to be the same players as 4 years ago.

    New players on the Patriots O-line include Sebastian Vollmer, Dan Connelly, and Brian Waters along with Gronkowski and Hernandez at tight end.

    Both teams are different from their 2007 versions.

    .

  18. zn0rseman says: Jan 27, 2012 3:22 PM

    If the 2007 Patriots were to play the 2007 Giants 20 times, that years Patriots would have won 19 of those contests. Let’s face it, there isn’t anyone here who can seriously say that the Giants didn’t get extremely lucky in that Super Bowl. From David Tyree’s miracle helmet catch, to the Giants being allowed to mug Randy Moss deep down field on every other play, to the Giants ridiculous opening drive (consuming 10 minutes with 4 3rd and long conversions, the stars aligned perfectly for the Giants on a day where they absolutely had to.

    Is that game in any way relevant now? No.

  19. charlutes says: Jan 27, 2012 3:24 PM

    Is this the only angle anyone can think of? I get it, the teams are different. Write something in depth for once. Find out something new about Eli’s preparation or something, just stop taking non stories and regurgitating them here. PFT crew, you’ve already compared these teams to 2007 4 times, do some digging for crying out loud…lazy.

  20. jdandcoke says: Jan 27, 2012 3:25 PM

    in checking out all of these pats/giants threads the last few days, one thing is abundantly clear by looking at the thumbs up/down: the majority of PFT posters are mostly pats fans or giants haters.

  21. blu4l1fe says: Jan 27, 2012 3:25 PM

    Although there may be a few players from both teams from the last time they met in the Super Bowl, I agree, what happened then should be irrelevant unless it has somewhat affected those same players mental state. But with that being said, I tend to disagree with the whole “one team” will dominate the other theory. Both teams, NE and NYG, definitely have moved their play to the next level, specifically in the playoffs. But both teams, granted they faced different teams with varying offensive and defensive strengths, also did not dominate their opponents in the playoffs.

    I think this will be a closer matchup, unless one team decides not to show up, which is highly unlikely. It should be a good game!

    GO BIG BLUE!!!

  22. skinsrock says: Jan 27, 2012 3:26 PM

    I keep seeing delusional Pats fans all over PFT… I hate both teams… so as an outsider… How does anyone feel this game is gonna be close? The Gints have a much better front 7 & depth… They are going to confuse Brady & his favorite target is going to be limpy around, if he plays at all… On the other side… who is gonna stay with Hakeem Nicks & Victor Cruz ?

  23. dexterismyhero says: Jan 27, 2012 3:27 PM

    Is Gisele coming to Indy? Will Tom be wearing his Uggs next week? Inquiring minds……

  24. habsman says: Jan 27, 2012 3:28 PM

    Maybe he was just aFraid to answer the question.

    After all, New York thinks Tom Fraidy and his teamates are scared, right? So sit back and relax Giant fans. Nothing to worry about here. The Pats are scared of the Giants!

  25. michael228 says: Jan 27, 2012 3:28 PM

    fcoprado says:
    Jan 27, 2012 2:58 PM
    That loss still hurts them,they feel the pressure to win,Poor Patriots,I dont pity them…they cheated my Rams in
    ————————————————–
    Dude, are you completely re-tarded? not only was that story completely proven to be flat out false, Brian what-ever-his -name-was admitted he lied and made the story up. But hey, whatever helps you sleep at night.

  26. deepbacksidedig says: Jan 27, 2012 3:29 PM

    The past is a predictor of the future.

    yeah. From 04 to now:
    Brady 100-28
    Elisha 74-54

    But random can happen.

    Brady played the last one on a bad ankle,
    different LB’s, generally stronger D. Mr gap tooth, unavailable.
    Chase Blackburn, MLB, New York unsigned and unwanted at midseason to track Pats’ twin tight ends

    Giants D:
    OPP PASSING YDS 29th 255.1
    OPP RUSHING YDS 19th 121.3

    David Diehl, LT, New York
    Pro Football Focus: personally responsible for 47 sacks, hits or pressures on Manning in nine weeks.

    Eli is hot?
    Eli off a game completed 50%,
    Brady on his worst day, 61%.

    Pats give up one sack in AFCCG, vs 3rd best rush
    Giants give up 7 (and 20 QB hits) vs 7th best

    3 games Giants DL have accumulated 9 sacks
    2 games, Pats have 8

    Giants D 6-7 players 230lbs or under,
    Pats 5 300+ lb lineman, 500lbs of TE.

    Giants best be ready for a fistfight.
    pats O-line is stronger than it has been in years,
    Pats, under-rated run game.
    They have not used it, but if the Gmen drop 7,
    BJGE, Ridley, Hernandez could run a lot.

  27. patsfanforevah says: Jan 27, 2012 3:30 PM

    jakek2 says:
    Jan 27, 2012 3:02 PM
    How can you say it’s not relevant? All of NY’s pass rushers are the same except Strahan/JPP. If NE blocks these SAME pass rushers the way they did in 07′, this game will be over by halftime. Next journalist.

    —————————————-
    how did that same line do against the 49ers? Pretty sure the Ravens were kept at bay (at least from what I could tell from my seat).

    BTW… that line is OLD and you forgot Canty. Pretty sure he was a Cowboy at the time… just a guess though

  28. izzop says: Jan 27, 2012 3:33 PM

    @jakek2
    nobody mentions the injuries to the Patriots offensive line during the last super bowl. The Giants pass rush was held in check until that occurred. So, no I don’t think it’s the same. The Patriots have more depth this time around (although the RT position is highly questionable)

  29. cliverush says: Jan 27, 2012 3:34 PM

    The media should try doing what the players on both teams are doing, focus on the upcoming game. They always take the easy way to writing now. Pathetic journalism. Both teams have numerous players who had nothing to do with that game, These players have had a fantastic year and are preparing for the game of their life. Meanwhile the 1/2 wits in the sports media want to take a stroll down memory lane. Give up your credentials to someone who lives in 2012 and go home, put the CD on the tv, unzip your pants and…you know.

  30. smellslikekuka says: Jan 27, 2012 3:43 PM

    “If NE blocks these SAME pass rushers the way they did in 07′, this game will be over by halftime. Next journalist.”

    If I’m not mistaken, the game will be 7 – 3 New England at half time if everything goes the same. Good comment though

  31. bfree2k says: Jan 27, 2012 3:44 PM

    Big Co-sign on jakek2. Not only is the line the same except at 1 position (JPP for Strahan), but Pierre-Paul might be better at this point in his career than Strahan was at that point in his and Strahan was still plenty good. Next question!

  32. sschmiggles says: Jan 27, 2012 3:45 PM

    jakek2 says:
    Jan 27, 2012 3:02 PM
    How can you say it’s not relevant? All of NY’s pass rushers are the same except Strahan/JPP.
    ________________________

    lol. “all of NY’s pass rushers are the same… except for half of them.”

    might want to remember that NE’s OL is a little different this time, too. koppen, neal, and kaczur, aren’t playing in this one. they’ve all been upgraded.

  33. cannonballdookie says: Jan 27, 2012 3:50 PM

    U mad bro? He sounds very upset…

  34. thejuddstir says: Jan 27, 2012 3:51 PM

    No prediction on who wins……..yet, but I think the Pats were hoping the 49′ers would be their opponent. Giants offense can match Pats point for point and the Giants defense is much better than the Pats defense……I’m thinking Giants will pull it off. I actually picked the Giants in an office pool we had with 3 weeks left in regualar season. They were starting to play good and were getting injured players back.

  35. skinsfantom says: Jan 27, 2012 4:15 PM

    neutral skins fan here. you pat fans whine a lot, holy cow. should be a great game though, but i see the giants running away with. save the skins blow comments because i already know that.

  36. goawayeverybody says: Jan 27, 2012 4:17 PM

    Tough game to predict. The Giants defense has played very well the past few weeks and the Patriots defense is nowhere near as effective as it was four years ago. Eli Manning is better than he was four years ago but you could argue the same about Tom Brady.

    In any case, this Super Bowl will make history. No bottom three defense (Patriots) has ever won the Super Bowl. Also, no team that finished the regular season dead last in rushing yards (Giants) has ever won the Super Bowl.

  37. deepbacksidedig says: Jan 27, 2012 4:21 PM

    Giants defense is much better than the Pats defense
    **********
    really?

    Pats
    Pass Def. 293.9 (31st)
    Rush Def. 117.1 (17th)

    Giants
    Pass Def. 255.1 (29th)
    Rush Def. 121.2 (19th)

    Pats gave up 342, scored 513
    Giants gave up 400 scored 394

  38. TheWizard says: Jan 27, 2012 4:25 PM

    The team that lost twice to the Redskins…..going to dominate the Pats…….wonderful……….

  39. upyoursnfu says: Jan 27, 2012 4:27 PM

    “We should have won that game, but we didn’t have a copy of their practice.” says Mankins.

  40. nejerseygirl says: Jan 27, 2012 4:35 PM

    jdandcoke says:
    Jan 27, 2012 3:25 PM
    in checking out all of these pats/giants threads the last few days, one thing is abundantly clear by looking at the thumbs up/down: the majority of PFT posters are mostly pats fans or giants haters.
    _________

    And your point is?

  41. wikidpissah says: Jan 27, 2012 4:42 PM

    nyyjetsknicks says: Jan 27, 2012 2:59 PM

    U mad bro?
    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
    When it comes to the two teams in the Super Bowl, Jets’ fans should watch and learn.

  42. ErikW65 says: Jan 27, 2012 4:52 PM

    The Patriots in general can’t watch highlights of their last Super Bowl loss, and Mankins won’t talk about it.

    Huh. They sure ACT like the Super Bowl is more than just another game…

  43. descendency says: Jan 27, 2012 5:04 PM

    This Giants pass rush is more fierce than the 2007-08 version. As a patriots fan, I’m far more worried about this pass rush than the one that won Super Bowl 42.

  44. gmen212542 says: Jan 27, 2012 5:19 PM

    Giants fan here, and I would have to agree with Mankins. It was four years ago both teams are different except for QB and a few other players here and there each. Should make for a GREAT game!

  45. gmen212542 says: Jan 27, 2012 5:22 PM

    jrfrom508 says: Jan 27, 2012 2:58 PM

    Patriots will dominate this time around. Next question.

    **************************************************
    Brady is not going to go up and down the field on this Giants D the way they’ve been playing. Hahaha

  46. deepbacksidedig says: Jan 27, 2012 5:23 PM

    Pats give up one sack in AFCCG, vs 3rd best rush
    Giants give up 7 (and 20 QB hits) vs 7th best

    3 games Giants DL have accumulated 9 sacks
    2 games, Pats have 8

  47. tatum064 says: Jan 27, 2012 6:12 PM

    deepbacksidedig says:
    Jan 27, 2012 5:23 PM
    Pats give up one sack in AFCCG, vs 3rd best rush
    Giants give up 7 (and 20 QB hits) vs 7th best

    3 games Giants DL have accumulated 9 sacks
    2 games, Pats have 8

    ============================

    Who plays David Tyree this time?

    May not quite be the same Giants, but it will be the SAME PASS RUSH.

  48. tatum064 says: Jan 27, 2012 6:13 PM

    jrfrom508 says:
    Jan 27, 2012 2:58 PM
    Patriots will dominate this time around. Next question.
    ===========

    Will they ever learn?

    You want to make a “guarantee”?

  49. tatum064 says: Jan 27, 2012 6:17 PM

    zn0rseman says:
    Jan 27, 2012 3:22 PM
    If the 2007 Patriots were to play the 2007 Giants 20 times, that years Patriots would have won 19 of those contests. Let’s face it, there isn’t anyone here who can seriously say that the Giants didn’t get extremely lucky in that Super Bowl. From David Tyree’s miracle helmet catch, to the Giants being allowed to mug Randy Moss deep down field on every other play, to the Giants ridiculous opening drive (consuming 10 minutes with 4 3rd and long conversions, the stars aligned perfectly for the Giants on a day where they absolutely had to.

    Is that game in any way relevant now? No.
    ================
    Its kind of relevant, since Tom Fraidy played like absolute crap v. Baltimore last week, and the pressure may be getting to him – the pattern of yelling at people is a trend the Giants should be aware of .

    He is pressing, as is the team. If it isn’t relevant, why the “That was four years ago” smack?

    They need to get over that, and play it cool.

  50. tatum064 says: Jan 27, 2012 6:19 PM

    jdandcoke says:
    Jan 27, 2012 3:25 PM
    in checking out all of these pats/giants threads the last few days, one thing is abundantly clear by looking at the thumbs up/down: the majority of PFT posters are mostly pats fans or giants haters.

    =========

    Puh-leaze. the Pats weren’t even in the National conversation or relevant until the 21st century.

    Now matter how much ESPN pushes them, America is and will always be about the underdog.

    The Giants, yet again will be America’s rag-tag bunch.

  51. tatum064 says: Jan 27, 2012 6:22 PM

    cliverush says:
    Jan 27, 2012 3:34 PM
    The media should try doing what the players on both teams are doing, focus on the upcoming game. They always take the easy way to writing now. Pathetic journalism. Both teams have numerous players who had nothing to do with that game, These players have had a fantastic year and are preparing for the game of their life. Meanwhile the 1/2 wits in the sports media want to take a stroll down memory lane. Give up your credentials to someone who lives in 2012 and go home, put the CD on the tv, unzip your pants and…you know.
    ====================

    Sorry. Greatest upset in history. They’ll be talking about that, and David Tyree for a long time. Bet he’ll even be out at midfield for the coin toss.

  52. inthearex says: Jan 27, 2012 6:43 PM

    The NE fan base sounds eerily similar to the green bay and San Fran fan bases did leading into these games. Love that. Tough road you guys had to get here only beating one team over 500. No nicks and no bradshaw our first matchup and we still won?? Yea I like the giants chances.

  53. tatum064 says: Jan 27, 2012 6:52 PM

    deepbacksidedig says:
    Jan 27, 2012 5:23 PM
    Pats give up one sack in AFCCG, vs 3rd best rush
    Giants give up 7 (and 20 QB hits) vs 7th best
    =========
    And the Ravens still almost took them to overtime, and Brady sucked. Giants got took to OT, but Manning put up 3 bills while taking 6 sacks.

    your point?

  54. deepbacksidedig says: Jan 27, 2012 7:08 PM

    your point?
    **********
    The conventional wisdom about the Giants dominant D and superior physicality is wrong.

  55. pftcensorssuck says: Jan 27, 2012 7:11 PM

    tatum064 says:
    And the Ravens still almost took them to overtime, and Brady sucked. Giants got took to OT, but Manning put up 3 bills while taking 6 sacks.

    your point?

    ———————————————————
    Hey, who are the Raiders playing this week?????

    Yeah, YOUR point????

  56. vandalay1 says: Jan 27, 2012 7:23 PM

    I am absolutely STUNNED at how certain the giants fans are of the outcome o f this game! Your team was 9-7, pump the brakes cause you guys are getting into a speed wobble!

  57. vandalay1 says: Jan 27, 2012 7:29 PM

    I am sooooooo jacked to see how quiet the giants talk will be…the silence will be epic!

  58. superpats90 says: Jan 27, 2012 8:56 PM

    OK i now have to comment on this.
    all that Ahman Bradshaw and Hakeem Nicks bs.. aint legit. Did you forget that they held Ray Rice to what?? 67 yards in the run and pass game?? what makes you think that Ahman Bradshaw will get more than that? Its not like hes in any way better than Ray Rice.. and Shady is deff better than Bradshaw and they held him to what 61 yards?? crazy, and on top of that, Brandon Spikes is back to handle that! Hakeem Nicks too?? yeah Patrick Chung will return to this one… So its crazy for yall to try and bring up this crap about who the Giants didnt have in the week 9 meeting..

  59. gimmeabruschi says: Jan 28, 2012 10:43 AM

    Four years can change a lot.

    Over that time the average Giants fan’s brain has evaporated all memory of Samuel dropping the game winning INT, calls not made and the fluke-freak Tyree catch on a final desperate drive.

    In place of that reality has evolved a recollection of a domination that wasn’t even close as the great Eli proved his mastery over Brady. Laughable.

    Must be all that fresh clean air in NY that explains the consistent self-delusion of fans from both teams located there.

  60. Mr. Wright 212 says: Jan 28, 2012 8:28 PM

    Denial won’t help you, Mankins.

  61. Mr. Wright 212 says: Jan 28, 2012 8:33 PM

    jdandcoke says:
    Jan 27, 2012 3:25 PM
    in checking out all of these pats/giants threads the last few days, one thing is abundantly clear by looking at the thumbs up/down: the majority of PFT posters are mostly pats fans or giants haters.
    ————–

    (Shook) Pats fans, at that. You’d be 100% correct.

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