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Kroenke makes the first cut in Dodgers sale

Jeff Fisher AP

From our brethren at HardballTalk (they seem like nice guys, but for their obsession with baseball) comes an update regarding the effort of Rams owner Stan Kroenke to purchase the L.A. Dodgers.  He has made it past the first cut in the process, unlike the group led by Dallas Mavericks owner Mark Cuban.

Previously, it hadn’t been confirmed that Kroenke had even made a bid.

The development arises at a time when tensions have escalated between Kroenke’s Rams and the St. Louis Convention and Visitors Commission, which manages the Edward Jones Dome.  With negotiations on a possible extension of a lease that the Rams can escape after 2014 absent significant upgrades to the stadium set to begin Wednesday, the CVC has claimed that the Rams can’t proceed with plans to play one regular-season home game in London in each of the next three years.

The Rams have responded by trying to argue that St. Louis would benefit from losing 12.5 percent of the city’s annual allotment of regular-season NFL games.

If Kroenke succeeds in his effort to buy the Dodgers, it would be interpreted by some (or by many) as a precursor to a return of the Rams to Los Angeles.  And if another NFL team ends up going to L.A., it would create a real question under the league’s cross-ownership rules, which prohibit NFL owners from owning sports franchises in markets occupied by other NFL teams.

The league apparently isn’t interested in wading into that particular tar pit until it has to.  “We have not been presented with any proposal to evaluate,” NFL spokesman Greg Aiello recently told PFT regarding the possibility of Kroenke buying the Dodgers and a team other than the Rams relocating to Los Angeles.  “Thus, we will refrain from speculating.”

Refraining from speculating is something we’ll never do.  And it’s not a stretch at this point to speculate that things are going to get a lot more tense in St. Louis.

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29 Responses to “Kroenke makes the first cut in Dodgers sale”
  1. binkystevens says: Jan 28, 2012 2:14 PM

    Don’t go to LA. They’ve had their shot and failed. Terrible sports town. Just turrible.

  2. Alohamrhand says: Jan 28, 2012 2:18 PM

    why did you guys post a picture of Sonny Bono?

  3. stevenfbrackett says: Jan 28, 2012 2:26 PM

    What does MLB have against Mark Cuban? If they had any doubts what kind of owner he would be, just look at his basketball team. He’s not cheap, he’s not using it for his own personal ATM and he’s not making stupid moves that endanger the team’s competitiveness or bottomline. Sure he could do a little better at keeping his mouth shut sometimes but he has calmed down since the earlier years and he isn’t as bad as some of the current owners they have now.

  4. lafan101 says: Jan 28, 2012 2:38 PM

    Stan Kroenke buying the Dodgers makes perfect sense. He’ll own that land ( yes he’ll buy the parking lots from McCourt) and be able to build a football stadium at Chavez Ravine. It’s no secret the NFL has coveted that site for years ever since Peter O’Malley proposed to build a football stadium up there in the 90’s. He can move the Rams back to where they belong and be a hero. He’ll be able to develop the land around Dodger Stadium. Oh and the reason L.A. lost it’s teams was because of a lack of a modern football stadium and bad ownership in Al Davis and Georgia Frontiere. L.A. is a great sports town and whoever says otherwise is just jealous. Even the freakin Clippers are selling out games. We just won’t put up with a losing franchise or bad ownership. Kroenke buying the Dodgers makes perfect sense!

  5. thejuddstir says: Jan 28, 2012 2:41 PM

    If the NFL wants to put another team in L.A., I suggest moving the Packers there. I’m not a Bears, Vikings or Lions troll, just a football fan. Moving the Packers from the cornfields to a major market city would then require them to play by the same rules as the other 31 teams. Examples….why can the Packers raise additional revenue by selling worthless paper but the other 31 teams can’t do it? (This additional revenue stream is also protected from revenue sharing with the other 31 teams). Why can Packer players jump up into the crowd after a TD but Vernon Davis and his team are penalized for his jumping up on a TV stand? Why can A.Rodgers be allowed to wear a skirt during games but Ben Rothlesberger can get the hell beat out of him? I don’t care what sport we’re talking about, but there should never be different rules for different teams. Send the Packers to L.A. and let them play by the same rules as the 31 other teams.

  6. cliffordc05 says: Jan 28, 2012 2:43 PM

    If losing one home game per year is good for St Louis then losing eight home games per year would be great for the entire state. Or am I missing something.

  7. lafan101 says: Jan 28, 2012 2:49 PM

    MLB could have put pressure on McCourt to reject Mark Cuban because in this process he was the one that made the call, but it was also Cuban who said he was not going to overpay for the team. His bid was probably too low for McCourt. Stan Kroenke will be a finalist.

  8. candyman4881 says: Jan 28, 2012 2:54 PM

    Maybe Kroenke believes that there will not be football in LA for a long time, and therefore wont have to worry about cross-ownership rules – both LA stadium proposals are fatally flawed

  9. Alohamrhand says: Jan 28, 2012 2:57 PM

    a football stadium next to Dodger Stadium?And you thought leavi g Chavez Ravine was bad after a Dodger game………

  10. amg503 says: Jan 28, 2012 2:57 PM

    Ha, baseball…

    Fun to play, boring to watch.

  11. bearsstillsuck says: Jan 28, 2012 3:09 PM

    He owns the team, he can do what he wants.

  12. Gordon says: Jan 28, 2012 3:15 PM

    Looks like he should be a villain in the next Bond film.

  13. thekingdave says: Jan 28, 2012 4:48 PM

    @lafan101

    The Clippers with Blake Griffin and Chris Paul are selling out games in the 2nd biggest city in the country. Wow. Big pat on the back Los Angeles.

  14. ultimatecardinalwarrior says: Jan 28, 2012 5:08 PM

    As a Rams fan, I do not enjoy being in the news this much.

  15. realitypolice says: Jan 28, 2012 5:38 PM

    binkystevens says:
    Jan 28, 2012 2:14 PM
    Don’t go to LA. They’ve had their shot and failed. Terrible sports town. Just turrible.
    ===================

    So, by that argument there should be no NFL teams in:

    St. Louis
    Baltimore
    Cleveland
    Houston
    Oakland

    Those teams all “had their shot and failed”, yet still got another team.

    The two teams that “failed” in LA were owned by Al Davis, who was more concerned with poking the NFL in the eye over and over again than with business, and Georgia Frontiere, a night club singer who managed, in her FIFTH MARRIAGE, to land a husband who owned an NFL team, and used to force her front office people to make draft and personnel decisions based upon Tarot Card readings and Horoscopes.

    This is a foolish argument based upon little understanding of the facts.

    If St. Louis or Minnesota or Jacksonville or even San Diego moved into a new, state-of-the-art, luxury box filled stadium in downtown LA, the value of the franchise would DOUBLE overnight.

    That’s why one of these franchises moving there is an absolute foregone conclusion.

  16. realitypolice says: Jan 28, 2012 5:40 PM

    Between this guy, the new owner of the Jaguars, Bill Gates and Warren Buffett, I can’t help but ask an obvious question.

    Why are so many billionaires so funny looking?

  17. realitypolice says: Jan 28, 2012 5:45 PM

    candyman4881 says:
    Jan 28, 2012 2:54 PM
    Maybe Kroenke believes that there will not be football in LA for a long time, and therefore wont have to worry about cross-ownership rules – both LA stadium proposals are fatally flawed
    ===============

    Cross ownership rules have nothing to do with cities- just leagues.

    Kroenke’s family already owns the Colorado Avalanche AND the Nuggets in addition to the Rams.

    To circumvent the cross-ownership rule, he “transferred” ownership of the two Denver teams to his son.

    It’s the most flimsy, easily gotten around rules in sports and certainly has zero to do with whatever Kroenke’s up to here.

  18. docboss says: Jan 28, 2012 5:47 PM

    He looks like Snidely Whiplash. The Dodger deal is brilliant if it gives Stan the real estate he needs to build his own stadium for the LA Rams. All Stan must do is pay off the principals in the STL dome deal. Give them a few million for the unused two years on the lease and go. How does the Dodger stadium/parking/development look to LA folks? Is this a good place for a football stadium? Just asking.

  19. kirkmcguirk says: Jan 28, 2012 6:04 PM

    binkystevens says: Jan 28, 2012 2:14 PM

    Don’t go to LA. They’ve had their shot and failed. Terrible sports town. Just turrible.

    —————————————

    Wow, just another clueless person that doesn’t know anything about the L.A. situation.

    Just so you know, the Rams sold out for more than 30 years at the old Coliseum. They had been owned by Jim Irsay but in 1972, Irsay and then owner Carol Rosenblum swapped franchises. After Rosenblum’s death (some say murder), Georgia Frontiere got a “sweetheart deal” from Anaheim and bailed.

    When the Anaheim deal went sour, Frontiere got another “sweetheart deal”, this time from St. Louis. Now, there’s hope that Kroenke returns the team to Los Angeles.

    As for the Raiders, that was the Raiders.

  20. billybatty says: Jan 28, 2012 6:06 PM

    Geez stanley at least make it look like you want to work it out in st lou.

  21. kirkmcguirk says: Jan 28, 2012 6:07 PM

    docboss says: Jan 28, 2012 5:47 PM

    He looks like Snidely Whiplash. The Dodger deal is brilliant if it gives Stan the real estate he needs to build his own stadium for the LA Rams. All Stan must do is pay off the principals in the STL dome deal. Give them a few million for the unused two years on the lease and go. How does the Dodger stadium/parking/development look to LA folks? Is this a good place for a football stadium? Just asking.
    ———————————————————

    First off, any potential buyer of the Dodgers is only buying the team. They don’t get the parking lot nor do they get the real estate in Chavez Ravine.

    Secondly, AEG is finalizing a deal to build a domed stadium in Downtown LA, right next to Staples Center, LA Live and the new Ritz-Carlton Marriott. There will be ample parking but better yet, a subway stop exist right near the complex.

    The new stadium will not only support at least one NFL team, it will also be the site of Final Four’s and more. There’s hope that someday soon, a downtown baseball stadium is built as well.

  22. docboss says: Jan 28, 2012 6:19 PM

    Thanks kirkmcguirk. Here is another question. If AEG is spending their money to build/develop the stadium, how do they get a return for their money if they do not own the team? Who owns the parking lots and real estate in Chavez?

  23. dempsey63 says: Jan 28, 2012 6:37 PM

    “If losing one game per year is good for St Louis then losing eight home games per year is good for the entire state. Or am I missing something.”

    * * * * * * * * * *

    That is some very profound logic, cliffordco5!

    And don’t forget about those two exhib… er… preseason games as well.

  24. greysolon says: Jan 28, 2012 6:37 PM

    That’s the problem, docboss. AEG wants huge percentages of revenue from the stadium project and no NFL team will agree to fork over that much money let alone give AEG a piece of their team. The buy-in for a new NFL team will be gigantic for AEG because the NFL knows AEG will make lots of money.

    Also– McCourt owns Dodger Stadium and the surrounding lots through his real estate companies.

  25. pape27 says: Jan 28, 2012 7:22 PM

    Alohamrhand says:Jan 28, 2012 2:18 PM

    why did you guys post a picture of Sonny Bono?

    ——————————————————–

    That’s Sonny Bono?

    Who knew?

    I thought it was Gomez Adams.

  26. cowboysfan18 says: Jan 28, 2012 7:45 PM

    I think its BS Cuban will never get a team.

  27. lafan101 says: Jan 28, 2012 9:07 PM

    @ kirkmcguirk

    Frank McCourt has made it clear the parking lots and surrounding land at Dodger Stadium can be sold for a higher purchase price. This is a negotiating ploy (smart move by Frank making the lots a seperate entity) to get over $1.5 billion for the Dodgers. You think developers like Rick Caruso ( see the Grove shopping mall in L.A.) and Stan Kroenke would be bidding just for the team? This is about the team, stadium, surrounding land and the billion dollar TV deal.

  28. pondbridge says: Jan 28, 2012 10:07 PM

    Hope Stan never decides to trim that ‘stache so there’s just a small square piece under the nose.

  29. whoknowsnothing says: Jan 29, 2012 5:35 AM

    NFL is not ready for a owner like Cuban, but Kroenke is a smart business man and knows what he is doing.

    I know if I had the chance to own multiple franchises, I would jump at the chance!

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