Keisel on Pro Bowl: They “should have just put flags” on players

AP

The first guest of the week on PFT Live undeniably has the best beard in the NFL. Possibly in the history of the world.

Steelers defensive end Brett Keisel joined the show and talked about missing the Pro Bowl because he is injured.

“Hawaii’s a great place. That’s the biggest reason I would go. Get my surf on. Get some salt water on this beard. I’ve heard it helps it grow,” Keisel said while stroking his beard. “Along with Head & Shoulders.”

(That was such a seamless plug we had to mention it.)

Keisel did watch the game and felt like a lot of fans at home.

“The speed of game was like a walk through,” Keisel said laughing. “Or a jog through. They probably should have just put flags on them. It might have been more entertaining to see if they can get the flags off.”

We’ll have more from Keisel later in the day, including his comments on the disappointing end to the Steelers season and playing in the toughest division in football.

78 responses to “Keisel on Pro Bowl: They “should have just put flags” on players

  1. He’s right. Who wants to risk injury in an exhibition? The last thing I want to see is someone get laid out in the pro bowl.

  2. Oh shoooooosh. It’s a reward to go to the ProBowl, not a job. If you want to add a little spice to it, allow retired-former Pro Bowlers to play. Who doesn’t want to see Kurt Warner/Bettis/Marino/Strahan….. lace it up one more time?

  3. It was a total farce.
    I never understood Pro Bowl complaints until last night. What an absolute joke.

    I used to love watching Skills Competitions as well. Couldn’t find ’em now.

    I will not vote for another Pro Bowl until something competitive is going on.

    This shames the NFL and I’d argue it also shames the players.

  4. The Harlem Globetrotters aren’t really basketball, but people still enjoy the show. Take the Pro Bowl with the same logic, and it’s rather enjoyable.

  5. I wonder what would happen if someone pulled a Samson on Keisel and shaved his beard off while he was asleep. Would he lose all strength and ability once his beard was gone?

  6. Couldn’t agree more. The Pro Bowl is the biggest joke of all star games! I understand no one wants to get hurt but atleast make it interesting. We (fans) don’t vote for players to watch this crap, we do it because we want AFC/NFC bragging rights lol. Not sure how much they get paid but losing side should only get 20% and winner 80%, I’m sure they will actually run for once!

  7. Why would these guys risk injury in a exhibition game? Makes no sense.

    What they should do in the NFL is just name the pro-bowlers or all NFL team and leave it at that. No game, just a ceremony. Makes more sense. This game is too physical. One play can end your career, why end it in a game that doesn’t count?

  8. The flag thing isn’t a bad idea for the Pro Bowl. I enjoyed watching it for what it was–a rip-roaring scrimmage of players just having a good time. Real football games are supposed to have defense.

  9. i cannot fathom the reasoning behind watching this game….a total waste of time. name an all-pro team and be done with it.

  10. This game is unwatchable. The NFL should just send them on a vacation to Hawaii and spare us the bad football game. Skills competitions for decent $ would be more entertaining.

  11. Agreed. I only watched the highlights, but it was pretty pathetic. The DB’s were for the most part just jogging and letting guys score.

    Atleast the Marshall catch on his back was nice.

  12. I didn’t watch, but with a score 59-41… I’m sure the player’s attitude was like… “Let me know when it’s over, so I can start my offseason” .

  13. The Pro Bowl is no different than the regular season now. Might as well put flags on the players for all 16 games.

  14. My exact thought as I watched the game–for the last time in my life.

    Of the all-start games in the four major sports, the only one that even comes close to being legit is the MLB All-Star game because the players still have to pitch, hit, and catch. In the other three sports, the players are just going through the motions. Bleah…

  15. Why can’t they just do combine-like skills competitions? That would be more fun to watch. Imagine like Desean vs Chris Johnson race, bench reps competition, hardest hit, etc. ESPN SportsScience stuff.

  16. Fans on rules that allow yardage and scoring records to tumble with increasing regularity: “They should just have flags” on players…

    Why stop with the Pro Bowl?

  17. This year’s Pro Bowl is exactly what meaningful NFL games will look like within 5 years if fans don’t step up, take Goodell to task and start spending their entertainment dollars elsewhere.

  18. Maybe like padless 7 on 7 flag football game, would at least get some viewership of the curious. That early McCoy run looked like a whistle had stopped the play. Pro Bowl as it stands has become completely unwatchable.

  19. I saw the game to and came away with the question: what is the purpose of this game ? Why not just have an awards ceremony at the end of the season ? That would make more sense than this useless event. It was like watching kids play on a playground.

  20. That’s where the league is headed anyway. They mind as well make regular season the same way. I didnt notice to much of a difference. They are taking defenses like the Steelers and Ravens out of the game. They are also very selective who they call penalties on for the same exact hits.

  21. “undeadjesus says:
    Jan 30, 2012 1:00 PM
    Toughest division in football? NFC North disagrees.”

    AFC Noth put 3 teams in the playoffs this year, and all four teams had defenses in the top 10 in the leauge. Can’t say the same fo rthe NFC North…

  22. The Pro Bowl is now a complete and utter joke. No one argues that point.

    The best solution is to either scrap it or change it dramatically. The only way to change it dramatically would be as follows-

    Combine the PRO BOWL and the SENIOR BOWL.
    Let a squad of pro coaches from round one losers coach a team of top seniors to play the all pros. Since ALL the participants are able to accept money, make the winners share 3 times bigger than the losers. Give the Seniors 2 more weeks to prepare than the all pros and you have a meaningful and competitive game.

    Problem solved!

  23. NFC North is the best division in football and here’s why…

    Take every division in football, and compile the best possible lineup from those teams within the division. Who can beat this team:
    QB: Aaron Rodgers
    RB: Adrian Peterson, Matt Forte
    WR: Calvin Johnson, Everyone from the Packers
    TE: Jermichael Finley, Shiancoe
    DE: Jared Allen, Peppers
    DT: Suh, Other fattys
    LBS: Briggs, Urlacher, Matthews, Greenway?
    CBS: Tillman, Woodson
    S: Nick Collins

    Secondary is kind of weak, as is TE, but that is a tough team to beat. What other division can field a better team?

  24. I enjoyed watching the Pro Bowl after the 1st quarter. They stepped up the pace to 90%. They started blitzing and doing lots of stuff they are not supposed to do. I’ll watch it again next year.

  25. From Wikipedia:

    “(Robert) Edwards was chosen by the New England Patriots in the first round of the 1998 NFL Draft. He rushed for 1,115 yards for the Patriots in the 1998 National Football League season, before blowing out his knee at an NFL rookie flag football game in Hawaii. Edwards barely escaped the injury without having his leg amputated below the knee, and he was told he might not walk again.”

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Edwards_(running_back)

    This is why they don’t play hard, and this guy was hurt only playing flag football.

  26. “I saw the game to and came away with the question: what is the purpose of this game ? Why not just have an awards ceremony at the end of the season ? That would make more sense than this useless event. It was like watching kids play on a playground.”

    I was at the game and the point is to reward the players and inject a whole bunch of cash into Hawaii’s economy.

  27. And the NHL All-star game even worse times a zillion times. ONLY halfway decent All-star game is the Major League Baseball one. Pitchers throw the ball as fast, hitters hit the ball as hard and fielders run as fast as they do in regular season games.

  28. I might actually watch if they played flag football. Have a little fun with it. Put Vince Wilfork at QB. Let QBs punt. Play 7 on 7. Make defensive players play on offense, and vice versa. I could actually see fans and players enjoying the whole thing. This game is such a farce. It is to the point where I groan whenever a player on my team makes it. It will probably take a career-ending injury to a superstar to end this charade.

  29. engymassx says:
    I …. came away with the question: what is the purpose of this game ?


    $50,000 to each winning player

    $25,000 to each loser

    or the purpose? $25,000(before tax)

  30. A flag game is actually a great idea.
    Every other play, ladderals, wide open nuttiness.
    Final score, 97-78.

  31. Just remove Offensive and Defensive Linemen from the game and it would have looked less painful…1 Sack entire game really? Thing I find funny though is cam Newton Still looked like crap with the defense not even Trying

    AJ Green = Rookie of the year.

  32. Couldn’t agree more. The Pro Bowl is the biggest joke of all star games! I understand no one wants to get hurt but atleast make it interesting. We (fans) don’t vote for players to watch this crap, we do it because we want AFC/NFC bragging rights lol. Not sure how much they get paid but losing side should only get 20% and winner 80%, I’m sure they will actually run for once!
    _______________________________________

    Winning team gets $50K/player, losing team gets $25K/player.

    Thats why you usually see things turn up a little bit during the 4th quarter when one team is still in it.

  33. don’t worry Brett, Roger’s working on the whole flag football thing, it’ll be such an “improvement” – so exciting

  34. Basically he is right, time for players to relax and enjoy the beach with families. The fans that can afford to go get to see a lot of name players at one time possible get some autographs if you can get by the ones getting things signed that are on ebay today. The game well, has a lot to be desired just usually has some fun moments. I would think all the players think the same thing and hope no injuries.

  35. QB: Aaron Rodgers
    RB: Adrian Peterson, Matt Forte
    WR: Calvin Johnson, Everyone from the Packers
    TE: Jermichael Finley, Shiancoe
    DE: Jared Allen, Peppers
    DT: Suh, Other fattys
    LBS: Briggs, Urlacher, Matthews, Greenway?
    CBS: Tillman, Woodson
    S: Nick Collins

    Secondary is kind of weak, as is TE, but that is a tough team to beat. What other division can field a better team?
    ________________________________________
    As great as Aaron Rodgers, Adrian Peterson and Matt Forte are, they probably won’t do much w/o an offensive line blocking for them,

  36. You know, flag football isn’t such a bad idea for a game like this. Get rid of all the pads and helmets, and have a regular old flag football game. Dispensing with the pretense of a real game and having fun with it would make it a lot better.

    Pro tennis does a good job with making exhibition games fun. For a recent example, search YouTube for the recent exhibition in Belgium that featured some great stuff (including Clijsters and Wozniaki doing a great satire of all the excessively grunting/screaming women players, and Wozniaki switching places with the umpire in the middle of a doubles match).

    As for the jokes here about the real NFL games being flag football, did any of you actually watch the playoffs this year? Tell me those grinding conference championship games were flag football. The 49ers defense tackles as well as any team I’ve seen in many years.

  37. Move the game back to after the Super Bowl so everybody can play if they want and attach a “home field advantage” to it like MLB.
    If the AFC wins the Super Bowl is played in a AFC city.
    If the NFC wins its played in a NFC city.
    And yes I watched as much of the “game” as I could stomach and my thoughts were somebody is gonna get hurt with all the antics going on. The only guy I saw putting out real effort was Geno Atkins.

  38. How can SD’s Qb & RB make the pro bowl ??? Rivers led the league In turnovers & the RB had 6 tds thats very average to me… Pro bowlers what a joke!!!!!!

  39. For everybody complaining, have you ever seen the NHL all-star game? Heck, Giroux was trying to trip his own Teammate Scott Hartnell sou he would have to donate more money to charity! It was boring, a bit silly, but still entertaining. These guys played hard all season and EARNED the right to play in the Pro-Bowl. If you don’t want to watch, don’t. It’s an exhibiton game, so it doesn’t matter who wins or loses, the stats don’t count towards anything. Whoop-De-Doo they didn’t play hard enough… it’s been like that for YEARS!

  40. nesuperfan says: Jan 30, 2012 1:37 PM

    From Wikipedia:

    “(Robert) Edwards was chosen by the New England Patriots in the first round of the 1998 NFL Draft. He rushed for 1,115 yards for the Patriots in the 1998 National Football League season, before blowing out his knee at an NFL rookie flag football game in Hawaii. Edwards barely escaped the injury without having his leg amputated below the knee, and he was told he might not walk again.”

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Edwards_(running_back)

    This is why they don’t play hard, and this guy was hurt only playing flag football.

    I remember when this happened. And yeah, the risk of injury is why they don’t play hard. I think the Pro Bowl is fine as it is. Yeah it sucks, but do you really want to see someone suffer a career-threatening injury in a meaningless all-star game?

  41. Why not have the players selected choose a fan that will represent them and allow them to “teach” them some skills a week before the game and let them have at it? They make enough jack off this to make the effort. Of course this is grasping at straws but the ProBowl is dead.

  42. southpaw2k says:Jan 30, 2012 12:56 PM

    I wonder what would happen if someone pulled a Samson on Keisel and shaved his beard off while he was asleep. Would he lose all strength and ability once his beard was gone?
    —————————————————
    Well your find out since its being shaved Feb 9th. Its for charity for the children hospital

  43. They should do away with the actual game. Mic up the players and let them do all those skills competitions and televise that. It would be much more enjoyable than watching a glorified 7-on-7 drill. And you’d probably get fewer players to back out.

  44. He’s right. If the game is going to be a farce, then make it a farce.

    Let the coaches run out of wacky formations; Let the offensive lineman get some time with the ball in their hand; do something to make it other than what it is.

    It’s such a lame game. They don’t let you blitz; they make you run a 4-3; they don’t allow 3 receivers on one side or the other, and there is no competition.

    Go all of the way or don’t go at all.

    Seriously, if the game is supposed to be fun, then let’s see some plays that we won’t ever see during the regular season.

    I want to see the defense send 11 guys on a play. I want to see a quintuple reverse pass.

  45. This Pro Bowl was a disgrace. It used to be a fun and competitive game to watch. The Linebackers might as well have had motorized carts; James Harrison ran about 40 miles chasing WR’s. The refs didn’t enforce any rules at all.

  46. Maybe instead of teams sending their best players we should have every team from each conference send their bottom 4-5 players to the Pro Bowl and the players from the losing team never get to play in the NFL again. At least there would be something on the line and I guarantee there won’t be an effort problem.

  47. Id rather watch the skills challenge then watch a pretend game that allowd marshall to score 4 tds…i totally agree with making it a flag football game,would be entertaining to say the least…

  48. Okay they are not the toughest division in football. I would place my bet on the NFC North. The Vikings had a bad year (but they usually don’t) The Packers were almost undefeated and the lions and bears both had good teams. All their division has is the steelers and ravens. The black and blue division is consistently the strongest in the NFL.

  49. The Pro Bowl is NO different then then preseason minus 2 or 3 possessions when the starters play. Yesterday’s game was just plain rediculous……I mean did anyone see the pass rush? I didn’t think so.

  50. I didn’t even know the game was played last night. Just stop watching it people. It’s an award to go I suppose, but there’s not enough entertainment value to interest me.

  51. They’re looking for ways to raise funds for the retired players?

    Maybe instead of playing a meaningless game, the players voted for the Pro Bowl could gather at site of the Super Bowl— The weekend before the game—-

    Charge fans like $50/person to gather autographs or pictures and use the funds gathered for retired players.

  52. Here is one way to make the Pro Bowl better…obviously factoring in that nothing will make it anything close to meaningful.

    Make it part of an all encompassing Super Bowl Weekend.

    Friday: Skills competitions like they do in baseball and basketball. See who really is the fastest man in the NFL. See who wins in an accuracy competition amongst QBs. The longest field goal. Things like that.

    Saturday: The Pro Bowl. At the Super Bowl site, not all the way over and forgotten in Hawaii. It would be better to attach it to the Super Bowl. More players will probably play in it because a lot of them will be in town to go to the Super Bowl or at least be part of the Super Bowl festivities already for sponsors, events etc.

    Sunday: Of course, the Super Bowl.

  53. Remember when football was a man’s game played in mud snow and blistering winds? Do you remember when we honored and respected defense and QBs had to take their lumps with everyone else? I do but the memory is fading. Put flags and skirts on them and let’s move on.

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