Report: Ravens will hire Jim Caldwell

Reuters

A man who tutored Colts quarterback Peyton Manning will now try to help out the quarterback who plays in the city from whence the Colts came.

ESPN’s Adam Schefter reports that former Colts head coach and, before that, quarterbacks coach Jim Caldwell will join the Ravens, presumably as quarterbacks coach.

In all, Caldwell worked for 10 years with Manning.  He’ll join a staff that produced his replacement in Indy, former Ravens defensive coordinator Chuck Pagano.

Caldwell’s arrival could prompt some Ravens fans to clamor for a possible upgrade at the quarterback position, from Joe Flacco to Peyton Manning.  Though highly unlikely, a healthy Manning teamed with a defense sporting Ray Lewis and Terrell Suggs and Ed Reed would give Baltimore a team that would be the odds-on favorite to go to the Super Bowl.

The move comes after Caldwell met with the Steelers, presumably in connection with the offensive coordinator vacancy in Pittsburgh.  Caldwell has never served as an offensive coordinator at the NFL level.

65 responses to “Report: Ravens will hire Jim Caldwell

  1. Really? Because it seems to me the only guy he could effectively develop was already very good. I mean, he certainly wasn’t able to get Jim Sorgi or Curtis Painter to transcend their limitations.

    These types of moves can sometimes overly complicate things. I guess time will tell whether or not this makes sense.

  2. As exciting as it would be to land a healthy Manning to lead us to a Super Bowl, Ravens ownership is quite satisfied with the trifecta of mediocrity the Ravens have at head coach, offensive coordinator, and quarterback. They’ve been riding the Ravens defense for four years and racking up a win in the playoffs each of those years – and that is quite satisfying to those three. Now ask anyone on the Ravens defense how they feel about that success record and you’ll get a completely different take.

  3. “A man who tutored Colts quarterback Peyton Manning “….should read, a man who was on staff during Peyton Manning’s time with the Colts.
    How’d those other qbs he has do this year? or is peyton the only one who’s capable of understanding his coaching philosophy?

  4. so in their last year as head coaches, the offensive coordinator and qb coach have what.. 3 total wins combined?

  5. Hilarious.

    The dozens of Ravens fans who posted on here yesterday making fun of the Steelers for interviewing Caldwell just threw up in their mouths.

    Karma.

  6. Stir the pot… Ravens fans would not give up Joe headed into his 5th year for a questionable Peyton. Why bench Joe for what 2 years tops then have to start over again? And as for the nay sayers, Caldwell developing those other QB’s v. Peyton: Caldwell didn’t PICK any of the QB’s. Gotta work with what you have, and Painter and Sorgi were late picks not meant to surpass Peyton. However, given Caldwell’s tenure with Peyton, he can surely give some pointers to help Joe polish some of his skills. And not that he needs further defending, but Caldwell had to deal with a subpar D and a nonexistent running game. Even IF Peyton would have played this year, they go maybe 8-8, 9-7 tops. Caldwells lack of success was solely because outside of the passing game, there was no team. But people love to crucify a coach because of ownerships poor personel decisions (see Marvin Lewis prior to 2011, who’s now back to genius status)

  7. If fellow Ravens fans are going to hope that Peyton ends up in Baltimore we might as well not stop there and hope Reggie Wayne comes along with him to replace Lee Evans.

  8. Flacco and Caldwell working together??

    This brings new meaning to the saying “the blind leading the blind”.

  9. 1) Wow, you’re really implying that the Ravens would move on Manning? They’re going to be in decent shape as far as the cap goes this year, but they’re already looking at resigning Ray Rice to a long term deal and I would have to think they’ll float a solid deal Ben Grubbs’ way since he and Yanda are their only two solid o-linemen. Not to mention a new contract at some point for Flacco and maybe even go ahead and get Lardarius Webb locked up long term, despite only being a RFA.

    2) Glad to see them at least bring in someone as a QB coach after Cam the Control Freak ran Zorn out of Baltimore last year. Caldwell isn’t a bad choice, but I would have much rather seen Hue Jackson back in the fold.

  10. If Manning is moved and is healthy, he is going to want to go to a team where he has a lot of control of the offense. Thats not in Baltimore under a Harbaugh. Rex Ryan leaves the offense alone in New York and they will have a new Offensive Coordinator. Examples like that make much more sense.

  11. You guys need to realize how inconsistent Joe is. If Peyton came and gave you two good years…you would have two Lombardis.

  12. Tastelessberger must have pitched a major tantrum
    over things so Caldwell wasn’t offered the job.

    Just another indication of the inmates
    running the insane asylum…

  13. baltomjg182 says:

    Knock it off with the Peyton speculation right now. Ravens fans want Joe. Joe’s our quarterback.
    —————————————

    Please. I’d take Manning over Flacco in my sleep and so would 98% people in Baltimore if it meant hoisting the Lombardi. That would definitely put us over the hump. But that would never happen and this is all speculation and rumor. If they kept Cam Cameron what makes you think they would replace Flacco?

  14. I wouldnt want him as OC, but a QB coach could be beneficial. Peyton’s stats improved significantly when Caldwell started as Peyton’s QB coach. The guy can’t be a head coach or probably an OC for that matter but it’s almost certain that he did help with Manning’s career. Manning’s QB rating jumped 2o points when Caldwell was intoduced as his QB coach early in Manning’s career.

  15. “A man who tutored Colts quarterback Peyton Manning”

    I think you meant “A man who WAS tutored BY Colts quarterback Peyton Manning…”

    I know you’re trying to be polite and objective here but facts are facts. No member of the Colts coaching staff has ever “mentored” Peyton Manning. Manning is a coach breeder, not the other way around.

  16. cheapseater says: Jan 30, 2012 8:27 AM

    You guys need to realize how inconsistent Joe is. If Peyton came and gave you two good years…you would have two Lombardis.

    ——

    You realize how big that if is, right?

  17. One thing about the NFL for sure, once you’re in as a coach your always in. I’m sure their the best coaches in the world and not a good old boy network!

  18. First thing Caldwell should do is shave that stupid looking mustache off Joes’ face. I thought the unibrow was annoying.

  19. This is just great for the Ravens (said sarcastically). Just what they need…another “coach” who proved he cannot lead a team. What has Caldwell ever done?….he certainly didn’t help any of the Colts QBs….

    One needs to start questioning what Biscotti is letting happen with these hiring moves. First he keeps Cameron,than hires this bozo????? There are some serious issues at the castle!

    ..and Manning willnever be coming to the Ravens…but than again…with all this other stuff going on..who knows!

  20. Sweet! I hope this signals that Flacco will be able to make calls, and mix it up a lot more! It sure signals that if they are going to keep Cam, then some improvement in the play-calling is also necessary.

    I hope Payton heals up, and plays again! The guy is one of the best qbs ever! I don’t care where he plays – as long as he’s healthy – he will improve any team! I support Flacco, and disagree with all the critism of him. Yeah he has taken a lot of sacks, but he has done a great job protecting the ball. He needs to work to get the ball off quicker – the time he has in practice is not the same as game time. He needs to improve that, but the guy is not the reason we didn’t play in the Super Bowl this year, and is one of the reasons we got there.

    We laid a few eggs this year, and they got broken. A few tweaks, and improvement along the line, and we will extend our season!

  21. Bad Hire. This guy is an idiot who happened to be on a staff that drafted Peyton Manning. Nothing else should tell you this guy has any superior coaching skills. If you don’t believe me check his last head coach gig at wake forest before joining the colts.

  22. Id take Joe Flacco over a severly, old, injured Manning. Mannings best days are over, I dont care what team he goes to. 36 yrs old? Are u kidding?

  23. @ quittsburgh
    Since Ben is still in Hawaii, he hasn’t had his sit down with the Rooneys (I think I heard he’s got time with them and Colbert on Tuesday), so it wasn’t Ben.

    My guess is that they feel strongly about Randy Fichtner taking over. He was the WR coach before he was the QB coach, so he’s going to have a strong sense for how to utilize the talent at both positions, while mixing in a bit more run (at the behest of the powers-that-be). Could be a strong hire for a team that likes to promote from within.

  24. Ugh! At least he’s only a QB coach and not an OC. I never thought I’d say this but I’m glad Cam is our OC just so Caldwell can’t have the job.

  25. Let me tell you that this is an incredibly good decision by the Ravens. Don’t look at his record and assume he’s not a brilliant quarterbacks coach. This guy helped develop Peyton Manning, who has gone on record several times to explain how instrumental he was in his own development.

    Not to mention he will be the go-between for Cameron and Flacco, helping Cameron create an offense that better suits Flacco. This is awesome news for Ravens fans. Anyone who disagrees with that just doesn’t know what they are talking about.

    Let me say one more thing. All bias aside, the Steelers are a great organization that generally make good hires and good decisions. They don’t associate with bad candidates for ANY job. The Ravens are also a very well oiled and well thought-of organization. There’s a reason two outstanding teams interviewed this guy. I’m glad he’s on our side.

  26. you know after really reading all of the comments on here I’ve realized something. Very few of you know anything about football. I think I might finally have to give up on PFT once and for all.

  27. Peyton was a very good QB. When Caldwell got there, he turned Peyton into an elite QB.

    Now he comes to Baltimore with Flacco who is already a very good QB and will make Flacco join the elite ranks.

    Caldwell will also be the heir as OC after Cam.

  28. Patskrieg dot com says:Jan 30, 2012 9:12 AM

    Cameron. Caldwell. Flacco.

    DREAM TEAM!

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    Well the bookends on your DT may be ok, but the middle boasts the following:

    College HC record: 26–63
    Pro HC record: 26–22

    Great hire Harbaugh…

  29. The Ravens aren’t pursuing Peyton Manning. It’s not going to happen. That conversation isn’t even worth having.

    A. All but about 5 teams in the league would take Peyton if it meant hoisting the trophy, but it doesn’t work that way.

    B. We can not afford him right now, and they won’t sacrifice the integrity and strength of their roster to sign him.

    C. It’s silly to even discuss. He’s not coming to Baltimore. Period.

  30. polo550 says:
    Jan 30, 2012 8:34 AM
    baltomjg182 says:

    Knock it off with the Peyton speculation right now. Ravens fans want Joe. Joe’s our quarterback.
    —————————————

    Please. I’d take Manning over Flacco in my sleep and so would 98% people in Baltimore if it meant hoisting the Lombardi. That would definitely put us over the hump. But that would never happen and this is all speculation and rumor. If they kept Cam Cameron what makes you think they would replace Flacco?
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    Please hand in your Ravens jersey at the door. Joe Flacco is our quarteback, I would never want Manning in Purple and Black. Ever.

    Caldwell was a head coaching candidate when Harbaugh got the job in 2008. Can’t help but think the Ravens got a good deal here, and Caldwell gets a chance to rebuild his reputation.

  31. Enough with the Peyton to Ravens talk. Peyton would be a gamble at a short term success, while Flacco would be the long term answer. All Flacco did this year was, get his team to the AFC championship game, and deliver the game winning touchdown into the hands of Lee Evans with 20 seconds left. If Lee Evans holds on to that ball, Caldwell isn’t with the Ravens, and even though the superbowl is yet to be played, the media would be obsessed with the damage to Brady and Belicheck’s legacy. Unless Peyton can kick 30 yard field goals, I don’t see him going to the Ravens.

  32. For anyone who thinks they would want injured, 36-year-old Peyton Manning over the known commodity of a four-year player who would have been to two Super Bowls if his receivers could catch, I have two words for you: Elvis Grbac.

    And NO, Flacco is not Trent Dilfer. But when you get as close as they have gotten and you have chosen to stay with Cameron in the name of consistency, blowing up the QB position would be a disaster.

  33. @yyyass:

    What do you mean four years? The Ravens have been riding on the backs of their defense for the entirety of the franchise! Has the Ravens offense *ever* been considered a top-10 offense?

  34. Any offensive move that doesn’t involve getting rid of Cam Cameron is a waste. His system is out of date, he doesn’t know how to use his players properly, he’s a control freak and a stubborn old guy that can’t abandon his game plan and make an adjustment to save his life.

    It doesn’t matter what the Ravens do, they won’t improve on offense until Cam Cameron is GONE!

  35. I have to concur with 8man. The idea that Caldwell “tutored” Manning and he is therefore a good QB coach is ridiculous.

    As QB coach, you are obviously responsible for ALL of the QBs on your roster.

    And as this year proved, no one had a sorrier set of QBs in the league than Indy. It was actually proven in earlier years, when the Colts would sit Manning and Sorgi would come in and stink.

    And don’t tell me he had nothing to work with. Part of a position coaches responsibility to tell his superiors if his guys can’t play and get them replaced.

  36. cheapseater says:
    Jan 30, 2012 8:27 AM

    You guys need to realize how inconsistent Joe is. If Peyton came and gave you two good years…you would have two Lombardis.

    ______________________________

    What makes you think that? From what I recall, PM has a losing record in the playoffs.

  37. New Orleans, Green Bay, and New England fans are not very interested in Peyton Manning. At least the fans, if not the management, of every other team is. Yes, we get it…

  38. ravenution

    Manning was always elite. Caldwell may have had a hand in that development, but it was more likely Bruce Arians.

    Flacco is average. With any luck, Caldwell will turn him into a good quarterback.

  39. @bshuclassof2012
    Please hand in your Ravens jersey at the door. Joe Flacco is our quarteback, I would never want Manning in Purple and Black. Ever.

    You love Flacco that much you can have him. Apparently you like mediocrity in your life. Me, I like to be elite. If we didn’t have the defense that we have we would be 5-11 with YOUR QB and growing up in Baltimore City like I did I know Flacco would be run out of town just like Grbac if that happened. It’s killing me that these people have Flacco’s back like they do. Watch PFT. If the Ravens defense slips and next years killer schedule gets the best of us just watch how many of these same people have Joe’s back then. The same people are saying that Flacco is their QB will be the first ones at The Castle with their pitchforks wanting his head. I know this city. Joe is a good QB but he’s as up and down as Sanchez. He benefits from having an elite defense. Ray will be 37 and Ed will be 34. Somewhere along the line the QB will have to win a game and not depend on the defense to bail him out every game.

  40. This move does nothing to address the real problem with the Ravens offense — Cam Cameron. Cameron doesn’t listen to his players or his coaches — he only does what he wants to do. Caldwell appears to be the perfect “yes” man, and that’s what the Ravens spin machine wanted. They didn’t make the right move by getting rid of Cameron, and so bringing in Caldwell will do nothing to address the real problem that exists on the offensive side of the ball. Cam Cameron gives true meaning to the words OFFENSIVE Coordinator.

  41. Keep the hate for Flacco coming! I’m just adding names to my list of “told ya so’s”for next season when ya’ll are jaw dropped over his progress. Keep in mind, Joe had to deal with a rookie starting WR, Evans who hardly played this year, 2- 2nd year TE’s, neither of which had started a game until this year, and Leach, Ricky, Gurode, and McKinney all learning a new system with no offseason to do so. All learned on the fly, and in doing so we went 12-4 in the regular season and got to the AFC Championship game which we won. But Evans and Cundiff lost. Regardless, Joe played immaculate that game, and if you cannot realize what a full off season and and more time in the SAME system can do for this offense, you’re just flat out foolish.

    Additionally, look at the D- Jimmy Smith will work into the starting role when we let RFA Cary Williams bounce (PLEASE), Kruger and McPhee work their way into the starting lineup (sack machines) and this D will stay a top 5 even with a new D coord.

    Love being the underdogs…

  42. @polo550

    If this defense was THAT great they would have been able to carry Kyle Boller to the playoffs atleast once. And they didn’t.

    I don’t understand Ravens fans. There is never an in between they are either totally wacko for Flacco and believe he’s the biggest reason that they win or they totally hate the guy and say stuff like “without this defense they are a 5-11 team”.

    Is Flacco carrying this team on his shoulders? Heck no but is he being carried by a defense? That’s a no to. The Ravens would be a 5-11 team without Flacco. I know this for a fact because that’s exactly what they were before Flacco.

  43. I can’t speak for others, but this Ravens fan wants to stick with Flacco.

    Manning coming here is a pipe dream. People need to google the concept of a salary cap.

  44. polo550 says:
    Jan 30, 2012 1:05 PM
    @bshuclassof2012
    Please hand in your Ravens jersey at the door. Joe Flacco is our quarteback, I would never want Manning in Purple and Black. Ever.

    You love Flacco that much you can have him. Apparently you like mediocrity in your life. Me, I like to be elite. If we didn’t have the defense that we have we would be 5-11 with YOUR QB and growing up in Baltimore City like I did I know Flacco would be run out of town just like Grbac if that happened. It’s killing me that these people have Flacco’s back like they do. Watch PFT. If the Ravens defense slips and next years killer schedule gets the best of us just watch how many of these same people have Joe’s back then. The same people are saying that Flacco is their QB will be the first ones at The Castle with their pitchforks wanting his head. I know this city. Joe is a good QB but he’s as up and down as Sanchez. He benefits from having an elite defense. Ray will be 37 and Ed will be 34. Somewhere along the line the QB will have to win a game and not depend on the defense to bail him out every game.
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    Dude, I grew up in Baltimore City too. Not sure what exactly that proves. Even if I was from the County, I would at least realize that the long-term prospects for the Ravens, our team, is extremely bright. We were one stripped pass away from the Super Bowl, and as crazy as it might sound, Flacco was the one who put us in position for that. Ray and Ed are getting old, but Suggs, Ngata, Webb, McPhee are still young and entering their prime. Every skill player on the offense is under the age of 30 except for Q. It took Manning 9 years (NINE YEARS!) to get to the Super Bowl. I’ll stick it out with Joe, he still has a a lot of upside. Like Baltimore City upside.

  45. synabar says:
    Jan 30, 2012 8:43 AM
    Yeah, keep Flunko.
    As long as you do, you cant get to the Super Bowl.
    Kind of like Romo in Dallas.

    ______________________________

    Love that these comments are still being said. Flacco takes the team 80 yards with 1:47 left in the AFC championship game… on the road and puts the ball in Lee Evans bread basket. Evans drops it and Flacco “Can’t get to the super bowl”

    To me the biggest thing that came out of the AFC championship game was that Flacco proved to the world that he CAN win the big game. Just be cause you CAN or have the ability to does not mean that you HAVE or WILL. Ask Dan Marino about that one.

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