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Cliff Avril does not want to be franchise tagged

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Cliff Avril has the potential to be one of the top free agent pass rushers on the open market this spring. He knows it, and he wants to capitalize.

Speaking to Dave Birkett of the Detroit Free Press on Wednesday, Avril said he does not want the Lions to franchise tag him. He either wants a long-term commitment, or he wants to test free agency.

I definitely don’t want to be franchised,” said Avril, who recorded 11 sacks and six forced fumbles in 2011. “I mean, I’ve been in Detroit for four years, and I wouldn’t mind being there for another couple more years or whatnot. The franchise tag kind of makes it a yearly thing, and you want security.”

Avril did express optimism that he and the Lions can reach a long-term accord.

“(I’m) kind of getting positive vibes as far as for me being there again next year,” he said. “Hopefully, we can meet in the middle and make it happen, because I’d definitely love to be there.”

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46 Responses to “Cliff Avril does not want to be franchise tagged”
  1. jbpanthers says: Feb 1, 2012 7:17 PM

    Too bad he doesn’t have a say.

  2. flightb0ys says: Feb 1, 2012 7:21 PM

    I don’t understand how teams can tag a player and it not be gaurenteed if he gets hurt. Players should have fought for something like that in the new rules. Owners get to keep someone with no catches and do whatever they want. At least make it fair.

  3. dawgsafety13 says: Feb 1, 2012 7:23 PM

    I really can’t say enough good things about Cliff Avril. Just resign. Please.

  4. blindshootist says: Feb 1, 2012 7:28 PM

    Yeah, the other guys on the line taking doubles so he can speed the end.. I doubt a team needing a pass rushing end would have the guys to garner the double teams as consistently as his current teammates do.

    Keep it together Lions!!! Experience and a couple more pieces at LB and DB and Motown might be rocking late January into February..

  5. canetic says: Feb 1, 2012 7:28 PM

    I will take his franchise tag if he doesn’t want it.

  6. shelovesfootball says: Feb 1, 2012 7:33 PM

    Please, please Ted can we have him in Green Bay?

  7. profootballwalk says: Feb 1, 2012 7:34 PM

    Your union contract says that you can be franchised. If they want to franchise you, they will. If you don’t like it, tell your union rep – they just signed off on the tag again last year.

  8. polegojim says: Feb 1, 2012 7:34 PM

    Mr Avril will be fine, fat pockets, and happy by the time this is done.

  9. wryly1 says: Feb 1, 2012 7:36 PM

    Cliff Avril is a talented, aggressive player who made several big plays this year – but he also committed twice as many untimely, costly, big penalties. Not a smart, disciplined player and too often out of control.

  10. bobhk says: Feb 1, 2012 7:37 PM

    Bye bye Detroit…

  11. harrisonhits2 says: Feb 1, 2012 7:39 PM

    Yeah, like the 10 or 12 million the franchise tag will get you isn’t security ?

    Another greedy turd.

  12. steelybills says: Feb 1, 2012 7:41 PM

    Buffalo welcomes you Mr. Avril!

  13. akatrain says: Feb 1, 2012 7:45 PM

    He would look great on the left side of the Browns line , and would give them a young defensive line to build a great defensive foundation with .

  14. descendency says: Feb 1, 2012 7:52 PM

    Sign a long term deal then…

  15. mialto says: Feb 1, 2012 7:55 PM

    Chitown is a better destination over Motown

  16. medtxpack says: Feb 1, 2012 7:57 PM

    Just because Ted Thompson in GB doesnt sign alot of free agents, doesnt mean he doesnt do his homework on them. His track record is very good when it comes to his few signings on the free agent market but they were deals of value, not just cheap. I could care less that he plays for Detroit now, GB desperately needs some more pass rush to compliment Matthews and maybe Avril can do it. Lets not hate just because he plays against us now…

  17. nineroutsider says: Feb 1, 2012 8:00 PM

    harrisonhits2 says: Feb 1, 2012 7:39 PM

    Yeah, like the 10 or 12 million the franchise tag will get you isn’t security ?

    Another greedy turd.
    —————————————————-
    Says another broke turd with limited prospects.

  18. shelovesfootball says: Feb 1, 2012 8:11 PM

    shelovesfootball says:
    Feb 1, 2012 7:33 PM
    Please, please Ted can we have him in Green Bay?

    I really hate that sarcasm doesn’t come through on posts!!!!

  19. ruthlssjag says: Feb 1, 2012 8:14 PM

    Hey Cliff, come on over to JAX & reunite with Joe Cullen. Your a missing link to one of the best, if not,what could be the best defense in the NFL.
    BTW, we have a new owner who’s willing to OVERPAY for your services, a new HC, a top ranked Defense with Mel Tucker at the helm calling the shots. Every player that’s played for him will tell you how great it is to work under his coaching, (we retained most of the defensive staff & added maybe a couple coaches, but definite upgrades).
    Did I mention our owner is willing to pay? By that, I also mean upgrades to the offense will definitely be addressed. You, Mr. Avril, will make our 7th pick of this years draft much less complicating, meaning we could possibly look elsewhere if we can retain the services of DE Jeremy Mincey, if not, I’m sure Coples will be there after having a strong showing in the Senior Bowl. In conclusion, I didn’t mention that you’d also be playing alongside TnT: DT’s Terrance “Pot Roast” Knighton & Tyson Alualu.
    I assure you, if you come through Duval for a visit, you’ll leave with a smile having signed a lucrative contract.
    Good Luck

  20. fittytuckin says: Feb 1, 2012 8:33 PM

    @nineroutsider

    Says the turd defending the millionaire turd that doesn’t give a crap about you.

  21. cmdv8 says: Feb 1, 2012 8:37 PM

    As a lions fan i see this as the true test of where the team is headed and how bright or grim the future is, cliff and megatron need to get paid in the same year allong with other key guys, I know they draft well and did o.k in free agency but now its sallary cap time and decisions on who gets paid and who walks. stafford and kvb already restructured there contracts last season to make the cap work so im a little worried to say the least but like i said this is the true test.. we will see.

  22. godfatherd says: Feb 1, 2012 8:40 PM

    Of course Avril doesn’t want to be franchised. The lions don’t want to pay him a huge contract either. Neither have a choice so they will just get to deal with it.

    As a lions fan I want to see Avril resign, but it may not be possible with the salaries they have on the books. If it were me, I would resign him. Even if I had to cut Vanden Bosch.

  23. bobhk says: Feb 1, 2012 8:51 PM

    harrisonhits2 says:
    Feb 1, 2012 7:39 PM
    Yeah, like the 10 or 12 million the franchise tag will get you isn’t security ?

    Another greedy turd.
    ————-

    You have no clue what you are talking about.

    These guys don’t have 40 years career. They have an average of less than 10 years.

    They’ve worked extremely hard to get where they are. Nothing wrong in trying hard to set themselves (and their family) up for good.

  24. nabz034 says: Feb 1, 2012 8:57 PM

    Let’s get real, any defense end you put on that line is going to get 8+ sacks per year and as much as I like Avril and want to see him re-up with the Lions, Willie Young, a 7th rd pick from two years ago would be just as formidable and the money that would have been spent on Avril could be spent on a position of dire need such as CB or OT.

    I really think the same Lions fans, the same Arm-chair QB’s who were screaming for Hill and Stanton to start when Stafford was slumping because of his injured hand in the middle of the season will be upset when Avril doesn’t get his long term contract and isnt with the team in 2013. Mind you these were the same people that were screaming to draft Curry over Stafford, a Franchise QB and the only reason the Lions are even good in the 09 draft.

    Whatever the Lions do I trust cause Mayhew gets it.

  25. fittytuckin says: Feb 1, 2012 9:05 PM

    So what? Mario Williams is going to be the most sought after pass rusher anyway.

  26. papacrick says: Feb 1, 2012 9:07 PM

    The article didn’t even mention the 2 TD’s Avril scored this year! Stripped Tebow and recovered it for the score along with a pick 6 of Phil Rivers.

  27. progman4all says: Feb 1, 2012 9:11 PM

    I’m really surprised so many other Lions fans are cheering for Cliff to get paid anything other than middle of the pack type money, especially with our cap situation. A healthy Lawrence Jackson is just as effective, if not more in the run at times. The other poster was spot on when looking at our DTs taking up double teams. How do you think a 7th round penalty machine like Willie Young gets 3? All our DEs look good with Corey and Suh. Turk was pretty great last year too. Whoever said KVB is less important needs to put down the pipe also. I like Cliff, but he’s going to be overpaid and he’s just not worth it.

  28. Soulman45 says: Feb 1, 2012 9:19 PM

    He need to be sign but is their cap space i think not it will be next man up I enjoyed the pass rush you gave the lions but all good thing come to a end so long have a great life see you on TV.

  29. dlmcc1010 says: Feb 1, 2012 9:29 PM

    I dont know. the Lions have are going to have some of the big players contracts coming up quickly, so they will probably want to wrap this one up and not have to deal with it again next year if they have the choice.

  30. cubs103years says: Feb 1, 2012 9:38 PM

    Do they not remember Calvin or suh

  31. gosuhgo says: Feb 1, 2012 9:45 PM

    He’s more valuable to the Lions than any other team really. Knock Suh but he’s the reason that Avril gets the sacks he does. It’s kind of like Stafford and Megatron. Staff looks great because Megatron looks great.

  32. notherpoint says: Feb 1, 2012 9:51 PM

    I feel like avril is a beneficiary of tackles that command double teams. He is not a top tier end and gets flattened on sweeps and counters to his side. Be savy on this one Martin Mayhew.

  33. notherpoint says: Feb 1, 2012 10:01 PM

    I’ve seen every snap of cliffs career in Detroit. I feel cliff is more of a beneficiary of the tackles needing extra attention. The guy gets flattened on counters sweeps and is way upfield on delays. He’s not top tier. Be careful here Martin Mayhew

  34. detroitcityryda says: Feb 1, 2012 10:14 PM

    We Dont need him ,tulloch is more valuable .we have young who can step in there or we can draft a de in 1st or 2nd round , paying Avril big money will hurt the team in future because we will not be able to sign any free agents especially after inking big play cj to a long term deal which he deserves .

  35. dino2997 says: Feb 1, 2012 10:25 PM

    Cliff Avril is the most productive defensive linemen on the Lions but with that being said he shouldn’t be overpaid.

    He reminds me of one of those guys that will quickly go from 11 sacks down to 5 sacks per season after signing a fat contract.

  36. lionsmark09 says: Feb 1, 2012 11:00 PM

    They need to keep Tulloch and let Avril go if he wants too much. They have Lawrence Jackson and Willie Young to cover it. Avril we play worse with most other lines.

  37. rollteal says: Feb 1, 2012 11:44 PM

    Come on back to the 9o4 where you belong. “Avril” would look good on the back of a Jaguar jersey and would be great asset as member of the Teal Curtain .

  38. blondebombr says: Feb 2, 2012 12:58 AM

    @goshugo stafford looks great because of megatron?

    then how come culpepper, kitna and shaun hill didn’t look great?

    i think you’ve got it flipped around the wrong way.

  39. bahshah27 says: Feb 2, 2012 1:30 AM

    Cmon dude. Why complain about peppers, Jared Allen, and freeny type $? Get paid and prove it.

  40. godfatherd says: Feb 2, 2012 2:03 AM

    progman4all says:
    Feb 1, 2012 9:11 PM
    I’m really surprised so many other Lions fans are cheering for Cliff to get paid anything other than middle of the pack type money, especially with our cap situation. A healthy Lawrence Jackson is just as effective, if not more in the run at times. The other poster was spot on when looking at our DTs taking up double teams. How do you think a 7th round penalty machine like Willie Young gets 3? All our DEs look good with Corey and Suh. Turk was pretty great last year too. Whoever said KVB is less important needs to put down the pipe also. I like Cliff, but he’s going to be overpaid and he’s just not worth it.

    ===============================

    I agree with everything you said accept the KVB thing. 2 years ago he was important for his value in the locker room, but his skills are deteriorating quickly. He gets the white athlete bonus, so people think he is better that he really is, just like peyton hillis, and just like jason seyhorn 10 years ago. You can disagree, but it doesn’t make it any less true.

  41. jkrc717 says: Feb 2, 2012 3:49 AM

    I don’t think the Lions should re-sign Avril.

    They need to work on a fat contract extension for Calvin Johnson and use the money they would have spent on Avril on other free agents to plug some holes this team has.

    The Lions are stacked at DT. This team has 4 capable starting DT’s. They can rotate Suh and Fairley to play DE along with Jackson and Young.

    Brent Grimes, Cortland Finnegan, Brandon Carr, LaRon Landry, Michael Griffin, Demetrius Bell, Carl Nicks.. the list goes on..

  42. jkrc717 says: Feb 2, 2012 3:51 AM

    Personally, I’d pass on Avril, cut KVB, cut Corey Williams and go after Mario Williams.

  43. simpson1125 says: Feb 2, 2012 8:21 AM

    Avril and Williams are coming to Jacksonville.

  44. cshearing says: Feb 2, 2012 8:37 AM

    bobhk says: Feb 1, 2012 8:51 PM

    harrisonhits2 says:
    Feb 1, 2012 7:39 PM
    Yeah, like the 10 or 12 million the franchise tag will get you isn’t security ?

    Another greedy turd.
    ————-

    You have no clue what you are talking about.

    These guys don’t have 40 years career. They have an average of less than 10 years.

    They’ve worked extremely hard to get where they are. Nothing wrong in trying hard to set themselves (and their family) up for good.
    —————————————————

    You are right, but you did not even go far enough. The average NFL career is like 3.5 years. Every player is one play away from potentially never being able to play at 100% again. They have every right to grab as much money as they can, whenever they can. If the NFL guaranteed contracts like every other major sport I would not be so adamant about players getting paid. But the NFL does not, so the players have to fend for themselves.

  45. cwhat32 says: Feb 2, 2012 8:42 AM

    I’m still astonished that Millen drafted this guy in the 3rd round.

  46. purpleguy says: Feb 2, 2012 10:22 AM

    Even without Megatron’s looming contract situation, the Lions are in cap hell. If they sign or franchise Avril, the cap situation will become more hellish without a ton of contract restucturing. He’s good, but not franchise player good. See Ray Edwards in Atlanta for a free agent bust that received a great contract after playing with very good fellow D-linemen on his prior team.

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