Comments on: Fisher: Rams’ draft move will define the future of the franchise http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/02/03/fisher-rams-move-with-no-2-pick-will-define-the-future-of-the-franchise/ ProFootballTalk on NBCSports.com Fri, 25 May 2012 22:46:14 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.com/ By: kjb7140 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/02/03/fisher-rams-move-with-no-2-pick-will-define-the-future-of-the-franchise/#comment-1558113 Sat, 04 Feb 2012 02:22:32 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=210488#comment-1558113 The first thing that needs to be considered is where Manning and Flynn end up. If Miami and Washington end up with these guys the price Seattle and Arizona would have to pay would be considerable and St Louis would end up with mid first round picks in 2012 and 2013. Cleveland could very easily end up with Griffin at 4. I think Fisher made a mistake by talking about this now.

]]> By: redskinszt http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/02/03/fisher-rams-move-with-no-2-pick-will-define-the-future-of-the-franchise/#comment-1557993 Sat, 04 Feb 2012 00:42:24 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=210488#comment-1557993 It’s funny gmen said were a loser team. We may be picking at 6 but we beat the giants twice by a combined score of 27. Don’t get me wrong I’m not saying we had a good year I just found that funny. Reminds me of antrelle rolle saying they could beat us 99 times out of 100…… But I hope the skins get RG3. This offense needs a franchise qb and a #1 reciever to compliment hankerson next year. It will probably take the 1st 2nd and 4th round picks plus a 3rd in 2013 draft

]]> By: footballfan15 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/02/03/fisher-rams-move-with-no-2-pick-will-define-the-future-of-the-franchise/#comment-1557909 Fri, 03 Feb 2012 23:26:18 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=210488#comment-1557909 ytownie says:
Feb 3, 2012 4:17 PM
Cleveland is only two spots down. They will not give a bunch of choices to move up two spots. I doubt they would even offer their #4 and #22 for the Rams #2. Maybe their #4 and their 2nd round. Cleveland will not lose all their Julio Jones picks to move up 2 spots. The Ricky Williams days are over.

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You understand that this is the Browns you are talking about, right? LOL

]]> By: footballfan15 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/02/03/fisher-rams-move-with-no-2-pick-will-define-the-future-of-the-franchise/#comment-1557901 Fri, 03 Feb 2012 23:19:39 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=210488#comment-1557901 wivikesfan says:
Feb 3, 2012 3:03 PM
Why would someone trade up to #2 with the rams for Griffin when someone could trade up to #3 with the vikes?

btowngetsdown says:
Feb 3, 2012 3:15 PM
I think the Rams lost a little bit of trade leverage by stating they are not going to draft a QB. Now, the Vikings could trade down and someone could step into the 3rd slot for less of a king’s ransom, knowing that a QB will still be on the board (either Luck or Griffin-most likely Griffin).

Because if someone trades up to #3, someone else can still trade ahead of them with the Rams and snipe RGIII or Blackmon out from under them…

]]> By: The Prophet http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/02/03/fisher-rams-move-with-no-2-pick-will-define-the-future-of-the-franchise/#comment-1557866 Fri, 03 Feb 2012 22:55:21 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=210488#comment-1557866 Go for it. Then the Vikings actually get first pick in a position they actually need and won’t have to worry about anyone swiping their guy! I wonder how they’ll screw it up …

]]> By: blackheld http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/02/03/fisher-rams-move-with-no-2-pick-will-define-the-future-of-the-franchise/#comment-1557865 Fri, 03 Feb 2012 22:54:49 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=210488#comment-1557865 This draft looks like Stafford/Sanchez 2.0, not Manning/Leaf. The team who takes either of them isn’t gonna be very good, and Griffin doesn’t have the three-step-drop, quick-release thing down well enough to stay alive with a sieve for an offensive line. So, he’ll run, and he’ll get hurt (see Vick, Michael). The Newton comparison everyone is using is invalid, because Griffin is a much smaller guy and will take a lot more damage, and Carolina actually HAD some pro-level offensive linemen to block for Newton.

Truthfully, Stafford being injured for two years was prolly the best possible thing that could have happened in Detroit. They managed to piece together a usable offensive line by the time he was healthy and coached up enough to play. Andrew Luck is going to face that same kind of problem in Indy, just like Gabbert and Ponder did, last year. He’s gonna be throwing short, off his back foot a lot, and he’ll take some hits.

Griffin might succeed, but he’s gonna have to survive til he has the tools and help to do it, and I don’t think he’s that close. He really looks more like Sanchez than anyone else, to me…much better than Leaf, but not a good enough passer to be more than a game manager to start with, and much less talented physically than Newton. Maybe a faster Joe Flacco?

]]> By: biz518 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/02/03/fisher-rams-move-with-no-2-pick-will-define-the-future-of-the-franchise/#comment-1557862 Fri, 03 Feb 2012 22:51:13 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=210488#comment-1557862 Just an fyi for everyone asking why someone would trade number two when they can just trade to number three….even if a team says no to a trade to the rams and decides to trade with the browns, doesn’t mean the rams won’t still trade that pic…a team would have to wait to negotiate with the browns until the trams are off the clock which would mean risk letting another team trade to number two…that’s why the rams will be the team to trade with

]]> By: jessethegreat http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/02/03/fisher-rams-move-with-no-2-pick-will-define-the-future-of-the-franchise/#comment-1557843 Fri, 03 Feb 2012 22:36:53 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=210488#comment-1557843 Those saying for the team that wants RGIII to trade with Minnesota are stupid. Why make that trade when a team can still jump infront of you to get him? Then you’ve forked over multiple picks for the guy you weren’t coveting.

St. Louis could also just draft RGIII and trade him like the Chargers did with Eli. This way they assure they get max value for him.

]]> By: granadafan http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/02/03/fisher-rams-move-with-no-2-pick-will-define-the-future-of-the-franchise/#comment-1557803 Fri, 03 Feb 2012 22:11:53 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=210488#comment-1557803 If Fisher were smarter, he’d tell everyone they were intending on drafting RGIII, but leave the door open to trading the pick. That way the trade value would be higher.

]]> By: purplengold http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/02/03/fisher-rams-move-with-no-2-pick-will-define-the-future-of-the-franchise/#comment-1557796 Fri, 03 Feb 2012 22:07:34 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=210488#comment-1557796 Yes! Vikes get Kalil!

]]> By: slammincamnewton http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/02/03/fisher-rams-move-with-no-2-pick-will-define-the-future-of-the-franchise/#comment-1557789 Fri, 03 Feb 2012 22:01:35 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=210488#comment-1557789 You can’t strike gold twice. Enjoy your next Tim Couch and Akili Smith.

Signed

The Carolina Panthers

]]> By: gmen1987 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/02/03/fisher-rams-move-with-no-2-pick-will-define-the-future-of-the-franchise/#comment-1557783 Fri, 03 Feb 2012 21:58:58 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=210488#comment-1557783 Hello Cleveland and your 1st two round picks. You are in the driver’s seat for this and you need a name player to market in Loserland. Be prepared to pay up.

]]> By: joemontanawasthegreatest http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/02/03/fisher-rams-move-with-no-2-pick-will-define-the-future-of-the-franchise/#comment-1557774 Fri, 03 Feb 2012 21:56:06 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=210488#comment-1557774 Better put your money where your mouth is 7 million dollar man.

]]> By: pcoisma http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/02/03/fisher-rams-move-with-no-2-pick-will-define-the-future-of-the-franchise/#comment-1557762 Fri, 03 Feb 2012 21:50:46 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=210488#comment-1557762 Brilliant about thought D.Jackson. Have fun trading a free agent. Asante a cover corner that playes a mile off the Line of Scrimmage that you just want to get rid of.Next.

]]> By: gmen1987 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/02/03/fisher-rams-move-with-no-2-pick-will-define-the-future-of-the-franchise/#comment-1557756 Fri, 03 Feb 2012 21:49:41 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=210488#comment-1557756 jbcommonsense says:
Feb 3, 2012 3:23 PM
If the Redskins offer the #6 pick and WR Moss or their 4th rd pick, he’ll bite. Nothing more. I’d rather lose RGIII.

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Goobs, no one will accept that pathtic offer, especially from your loser team with it’s loser owner.

]]> By: btowngetsdown http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/02/03/fisher-rams-move-with-no-2-pick-will-define-the-future-of-the-franchise/#comment-1557753 Fri, 03 Feb 2012 21:47:56 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=210488#comment-1557753 rbirving says:
Feb 3, 2012 3:42 PM
I can’t believe the stupidity of some people. The reason you trade with the Rams, if you want RGIII is, if you don’t someone else will. If you try to trade with Vikings instead of the Rams, you’ll draft right after the team that took RGIII.

I’ll admit, rbirving nailed me on that one. Good point, he’s right. He was quite hurtful though. I would have just preferred a “boom, roasted!” at the end.

]]> By: gmen1987 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/02/03/fisher-rams-move-with-no-2-pick-will-define-the-future-of-the-franchise/#comment-1557752 Fri, 03 Feb 2012 21:47:49 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=210488#comment-1557752 hatesycophants says:
Feb 3, 2012 2:28 PM
Why are we treating Jeff freaking Fisher like he is some great football mind?

3 and out.

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Because he’s got more wins and Super Bowl appearances than most NFL coaches, Goobs.

And oh yeah, he’s smarter than you.

]]> By: adantsa http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/02/03/fisher-rams-move-with-no-2-pick-will-define-the-future-of-the-franchise/#comment-1557745 Fri, 03 Feb 2012 21:42:07 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=210488#comment-1557745 Kalil to the Vikes. Make it happen!

]]> By: leegles http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/02/03/fisher-rams-move-with-no-2-pick-will-define-the-future-of-the-franchise/#comment-1557705 Fri, 03 Feb 2012 21:22:27 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=210488#comment-1557705 how about D Jackson, Asante, and 15

]]> By: ytownie http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/02/03/fisher-rams-move-with-no-2-pick-will-define-the-future-of-the-franchise/#comment-1557698 Fri, 03 Feb 2012 21:17:44 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=210488#comment-1557698 Cleveland is only two spots down. They will not give a bunch of choices to move up two spots. I doubt they would even offer their #4 and #22 for the Rams #2. Maybe their #4 and their 2nd round. Cleveland will not lose all their Julio Jones picks to move up 2 spots. The Ricky Williams days are over.

]]> By: tennesseeoilers http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/02/03/fisher-rams-move-with-no-2-pick-will-define-the-future-of-the-franchise/#comment-1557662 Fri, 03 Feb 2012 20:59:09 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=210488#comment-1557662 You haters crack me up. From 1999 to 2008, Fisher guided the Titans to six playoff appearances – only two teams (Indianapolis and Philadelphia) have more appearances during that time. In fact, he presided over the most victorious and successful five-year period in the Oilers/Titans’ 49-year history, between 1999 and 2003. His 147 career wins rank 21st in league history.

Maybe you guys need to take more breaks from fantasy football to enjoy the real thing.

]]> By: rbirving http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/02/03/fisher-rams-move-with-no-2-pick-will-define-the-future-of-the-franchise/#comment-1557612 Fri, 03 Feb 2012 20:42:19 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=210488#comment-1557612 I can’t believe the stupidity of some people. The reason you trade with the Rams, if you want RGIII is, if you don’t someone else will. If you try to trade with Vikings instead of the Rams, you’ll draft right after the team that took RGIII.

]]> By: realitypolice http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/02/03/fisher-rams-move-with-no-2-pick-will-define-the-future-of-the-franchise/#comment-1557602 Fri, 03 Feb 2012 20:36:52 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=210488#comment-1557602 brewcrewchamps says:
Feb 3, 2012 3:22 PM
Cue the “Fisher has only a .542 win % and is not a good coach blah blah blah” like every other article that has jeff fisher involved.

We get it. Get over it. Bring something new to the table.

Anyways, I’d like to see the rams take either blackmon or move down and get a bunch of picks because they need an o-line like nobody’s business…and corners..probably safety too…and outside linebackers..
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Ok, how about this- It doesn’t matter that you have an over rated coach who has never been in charge of personnel decisions before because in 3-5 years you won’t have a team anymore.

]]> By: jbcommonsense http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/02/03/fisher-rams-move-with-no-2-pick-will-define-the-future-of-the-franchise/#comment-1557576 Fri, 03 Feb 2012 20:23:59 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=210488#comment-1557576 If the Redskins offer the #6 pick and WR Moss or their 4th rd pick, he’ll bite. Nothing more. I’d rather lose RGIII.

]]> By: keakuamai http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/02/03/fisher-rams-move-with-no-2-pick-will-define-the-future-of-the-franchise/#comment-1557574 Fri, 03 Feb 2012 20:23:50 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=210488#comment-1557574 “The St. Louis rams select with the first pick overall……..”

]]> By: brewcrewchamps http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/02/03/fisher-rams-move-with-no-2-pick-will-define-the-future-of-the-franchise/#comment-1557573 Fri, 03 Feb 2012 20:22:26 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=210488#comment-1557573 Cue the “Fisher has only a .542 win % and is not a good coach blah blah blah” like every other article that has jeff fisher involved.

We get it. Get over it. Bring something new to the table.

Anyways, I’d like to see the rams take either blackmon or move down and get a bunch of picks because they need an o-line like nobody’s business…and corners..probably safety too…and outside linebackers..

]]> By: 49erstim http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/02/03/fisher-rams-move-with-no-2-pick-will-define-the-future-of-the-franchise/#comment-1557572 Fri, 03 Feb 2012 20:21:59 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=210488#comment-1557572 “….you can be 2nd, 3rd, 4th…heck.. you could even be 5th!”

C’mon! Jeff Fisher?! He should be thankful that the other 10 “big name” coaches decided they all liked their cushy outside of football jobs or this clown would still be raking leaves on a landscaping crew.

]]> By: alldonesmith http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/02/03/fisher-rams-move-with-no-2-pick-will-define-the-future-of-the-franchise/#comment-1557569 Fri, 03 Feb 2012 20:21:23 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=210488#comment-1557569 I like Jeff Fisher. and even though he’s in my division now, I’d like to see him have some success. but if his track record is any indication, the Rams will be picking somewhere from 13th-20th every year until he gets canned. if I was a Rams fan, I’d rather be getting top picks than mired in mediocrity every year. at least he’d be right, I guess.

]]> By: staff2cj4td http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/02/03/fisher-rams-move-with-no-2-pick-will-define-the-future-of-the-franchise/#comment-1557564 Fri, 03 Feb 2012 20:18:32 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=210488#comment-1557564 they won’t be picking 2nd next year, BECAUSE THEY’LL BE PICKING 1ST!!!

Sam Briddleford is GARBAGE!!

]]> By: btowngetsdown http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/02/03/fisher-rams-move-with-no-2-pick-will-define-the-future-of-the-franchise/#comment-1557557 Fri, 03 Feb 2012 20:15:21 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=210488#comment-1557557 I think the Rams lost a little bit of trade leverage by stating they are not going to draft a QB. Now, the Vikings could trade down and someone could step into the 3rd slot for less of a king’s ransom, knowing that a QB will still be on the board (either Luck or Griffin-most likely Griffin).

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