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Rex Ryan: Belichick, Brady may be best coach and quarterback ever

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The Patriots may be the hated rivals for the Jets and their coach, Rex Ryan, but Ryan says he respects what the franchise has accomplished so much that he thinks Bill Belichick and Tom Brady may go down in history as the best ever at what they do.

Ryan told the Boston Herald that Belichick “might go down in history as the best coach ever.”

Ryan also said that a fourth Super Bowl ring would put Brady above all other passers, at least in terms of the way they elevate their games when it matters most.

“If he wins the Super Bowl it’s hard to say he’s not the best big-game quarterback of all time,” Ryan said.

With the Super Bowl featuring the Giants’ crosstown rivals and their divisional rivals, Ryan said, “One thing I know is that everyone involved in this game is anti-Rex Ryan.”

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  1. marcuswelby70 says: Feb 3, 2012 1:36 PM

    As they should be!

  2. tombradyallday says: Feb 3, 2012 1:37 PM

    think i got to get my eyes checked

  3. Davo says: Feb 3, 2012 1:39 PM

    Let’s face it – the real losers in this game are Jets fans.

    They have to choose between their “little brothers” the Giants or their hated enemy the Patriots.

    Sure, if the Pats win, they’ll puke, but if the Giants win, they’ll be reminding the Jets who really owns New York.

    The ticker tape parade down Manhattan will be unbearable, I’m sure.

  4. whatnojets says: Feb 3, 2012 1:41 PM

    Ahh….the Big Kahuna has finally appeared!

  5. jjrs89 says: Feb 3, 2012 1:41 PM

    you might want to think about this while you continually back sanchez, rex

  6. mjbulls45 says: Feb 3, 2012 1:41 PM

    it only makes him look better

    bc

    he beat them in NE , a 14-2 team

    with mark sanchez,

    enuff said.

  7. yettyskills says: Feb 3, 2012 1:42 PM

    Jesus would this idiot just shut up?

    If you’re a Jets fan and still support this failure as a head coach.
    Why?

    DC is all he is suited for and you should know it, he is the opposite of discipline and if you haven’t noticed, the two guys coaching at the Superbowl are all about it.

  8. techvet says: Feb 3, 2012 1:42 PM

    Bart Starr & Vince Lombardi won five NFL titles + lost in a sixth title game. Keep climbing, Mr. Brady!

  9. jnbnet says: Feb 3, 2012 1:43 PM

    Rex is trying to jinx the Patriots.

  10. nejerseygirl says: Feb 3, 2012 1:44 PM

    This is the most intelligent thing Rex Ryan has ever said.

  11. keepounding1234 says: Feb 3, 2012 1:44 PM

    Nooo. He’s using reverse psychology to put the whammy on the Pats.

  12. bearsstillsuck says: Feb 3, 2012 1:44 PM

    Very few people are not anti Rex.

  13. tortowl says: Feb 3, 2012 1:44 PM

    Is Rex lobbying to be Belichick’s OC once the Jets are thru with this fat slob???

    Please Rex, your best move – shut up till August…

  14. ruggyup says: Feb 3, 2012 1:44 PM

    Uh Rex, enjoy the anti Rex achievement, you’ve earned every bit up it.

  15. edrooney says: Feb 3, 2012 1:45 PM

    Oh Rex, you’re so sly…. but I see what you’re trying to do!!!

  16. harrisonhits2 says: Feb 3, 2012 1:46 PM

    I get it, Ryan is trying to jinx the Pats.

    I believe that in reality he supports is neighbors more than his most hated division rival even if he is intensely jealous of those neighbors.

  17. nukaten says: Feb 3, 2012 1:46 PM

    Rex only made that comment for the attention. he called d-sanchez afterwards telling him “don’t worry kid you and i are the best ever”

  18. edrooney says: Feb 3, 2012 1:47 PM

    mjbulls45 says:
    Feb 3, 2012 1:41 PM
    it only makes him look better

    bc

    he beat them in NE , a 14-2 team

    with mark sanchez,

    enuff said.

    He missed the playoffs, it’s been 3 straight years of guaranteeing a title & failing to deliver, and his team is a mess.

    He couldn’t look worse.

    ‘enuff said’

  19. rxrider2000 says: Feb 3, 2012 1:47 PM

    Ryan said, “One thing I know is that everyone involved in this game is anti-Rex Ryan.”

    There is little doubt as to “WHY” .

  20. j0esixpack says: Feb 3, 2012 1:48 PM

    Even the Leader of the Patriots-Haters, Wrecks Ryan can’t argue that appearing in 5 Super Bowls in 10 years is unprecedented in the modern era of the NFL

    (for those unschooled in NFL history, free agency was expected to end any football dynasties and ensure parity)

    I know Jets fans one day would like to boast that they have more AFC East Championships than the Houston Oilers, but that will have to wait for at least one more year.

  21. zimaman says: Feb 3, 2012 1:48 PM

    That last quip was classic Jabba the Jet!

  22. msadpoet says: Feb 3, 2012 1:49 PM

    That is very slight of foot for Rex.

  23. whatnojets says: Feb 3, 2012 1:51 PM

    Davo says:
    Feb 3, 2012 1:39 PM
    Let’s face it – the real losers in this game are Jets fans.

    They have to choose between their “little brothers” the Giants or their hated enemy the Patriots.

    Sure, if the Pats win, they’ll puke, but if the Giants win, they’ll be reminding the Jets who really owns New York.

    The ticker tape parade down Manhattan will be unbearable, I’m sure.

    Yeah, this is a tough time to be Jets fan!

    But, I would rather see the Giants win than those arrogant buch from the redneck section up north!

    By the way, I guess you are NOT a New Yorker as it aready has been announced that there will be no ticket tape parade if the Giants win! The parade will be held in “beautiful, safest city in the world, Newark, NJ”.

  24. ampats says: Feb 3, 2012 1:53 PM

    Finally Rex Ryan said something that made sense.

    Rex said that everyone involved in this Super Bowl are the anti-Ryan which is why both teams are in the Super Bowl and the jets are at home while the implosion continues in Florham Park.

    Don’t worry jet fans, With the first pick in the 2013 NFL Draft the NYJets select Matt Barkley playing under new HC Joe Namath

  25. flaccounibrow says: Feb 3, 2012 1:55 PM

    j0esixpack says:Feb 3, 2012 1:48 PM

    Even the Leader of the Patriots-Haters, Wrecks Ryan can’t argue that appearing in 5 Super Bowls in 10 years is unprecedented in the modern era of the NFL

    (for those unschooled in NFL history, free agency was expected to end any football dynasties and ensure parity)

    I know Jets fans one day would like to boast that they have more AFC East Championships than the Houston Oilers, but that will have to wait for at least one more year.
    __________________________________

    It would be impressive if not for the cheating.

  26. bobhk says: Feb 3, 2012 2:00 PM

    It’s amazing that even supposedly guys in the know about NFL say dumb stuff like that.
    There have been many examples of coaches and QBs that have surpassed what Brady and Belichick have done.
    This is not to put down either one of them. They’ll be among the greatest, but to say that they’ve surpassed others, someone needs to open a book on NFL and point out Lombardi, Starr, Graham, Unitas, Montana.

  27. badtimeoutcaldwell says: Feb 3, 2012 2:03 PM

    AFC Championships are big games…. However “mr. clutch” Tom Brady has thrown for 2 TDs and 5 INTs in his last 2 AFC Chmpshp games…. However they are 2-0 in those games, therefore no one will remember how bad he actually plays in those games and everyone just ignores the fact that his stats drop dramatically from regular season to post season.

    Must be nice to stink and still get wins and add to your “legacy”.

  28. waxthat says: Feb 3, 2012 2:08 PM

    I feel sorry for the Jets for having this bafoon as head coach.

    Walsh + Montana (the best combo ever)
    Lombardi + Starr
    Belichick + Brady
    Landry + Staubach

    the list goes on….

  29. weepingjebus says: Feb 3, 2012 2:08 PM

    Rex occasionally has moments of clarity, like when he said he wouldn’t kiss Belichick’s rings because it would take way too long.

  30. badtimeoutcaldwell says: Feb 3, 2012 2:09 PM

    I also love how the fact that 90% of his post season accomplishments came during spygate and since then he’s been average at best.

    I dont understand how they got caught cheating red handed and there is no astrick or anything next to their names…

    Its like a kid cheating on his tests at school and would constantly get A’s… But once he gets caught he starts getting B’s and C’s on his test, but everyone still believes that he’s really an A student. I dont get how this is ignored by so many…

  31. darthhoodie says: Feb 3, 2012 2:11 PM

    Now somebody get me a god-dammed snack!

  32. bigbluefan1 says: Feb 3, 2012 2:14 PM

    Rex
    Get used to it your the redheaded step brother of the Giants the one Super bowl you won has rusted away
    The team should have moved to LI where there fan base is and left the Jersey Swamp to the real team.
    Yeah its a swamp but its our swamp

    The Giants own Met Life and always will

    Go BLUE !!!!!!!!!
    Or in the case of this weekend
    GO WHITE!!!!!!!!

  33. NakedCowboy! says: Feb 3, 2012 2:14 PM

    why are we talking about rexy?

  34. bobhk says: Feb 3, 2012 2:18 PM

    Regarding all this best of all business. The best response I’ve heard has really been deferential. Latest ones I’ve heard respond to that question were Simms and Montana and both said that it’s like splitting hairs. There have been many great QBs and it’s impossible to pick the greatest. Most fans would be happy that their QB is considered one of the greatest.

  35. rc33 says: Feb 3, 2012 2:24 PM

    badtimeoutcaldwell says: Feb 3, 2012 2:03 PM

    AFC Championships are big games…. However “mr. clutch” Tom Brady has thrown for 2 TDs and 5 INTs in his last 2 AFC Chmpshp games…. However they are 2-0 in those games, therefore no one will remember how bad he actually plays in those games and everyone just ignores the fact that his stats drop dramatically from regular season to post season.

    Must be nice to stink and still get wins and add to your “legacy”.

    ———————————————

    Please, by all means, continue to lose sleep over the Patriots.
    Ideally, 10 years from now, you’ll still be sweating bullets over them.

  36. portnoychunk says: Feb 3, 2012 2:27 PM

    badtimeoutcaldwell says: Feb 3, 2012 2:09 PM

    I also love how the fact that 90% of his post season accomplishments came during spygate and since then he’s been average at best.

    I dont understand how they got caught cheating red handed and there is no astrick or anything next to their names…

    Its like a kid cheating on his tests at school and would constantly get A’s… But once he gets caught he starts getting B’s and C’s on his test, but everyone still believes that he’s really an A student. I dont get how this is ignored by so many…

    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

    Because ‘many’ aren’t as unintelligent as you. Brady put up a record setting MVP season AFTER the “cheating.” Pats are in the big game again, and given, Brady has forced some throws, but he’s done enough to win in the playoffs and get to the big game. Or was it the defense everybody calls ‘terrible’ that drove the ball on the Ravens? Go hate somewhere else and learn how to spell “asterisk” while you’re at it.

  37. nflovercollegefb says: Feb 3, 2012 2:28 PM

    Brady-Belichick
    Starr-Lombardi
    Graham-Brown
    Montana-Walsh
    Bradshaw-Noll

    You can make a strong case for any of them in any order of 1 through 5

    That’s it, nobody else is close to being on the list, no Unitas, no Staubach, no Mannings.

  38. sizvampire55 says: Feb 3, 2012 2:29 PM

    We have to hear quotes from this buffoon during the season when his 8-8 superbowl contender Jets are playing. Why do we have to hear his opinion of every playoff game too???????? Make it stop. How many more non-playoff seasons will it take to get this guy fired??????

  39. jakek2 says: Feb 3, 2012 2:32 PM

    Eli will be a Giant for another 8 years or so. If Coughlin hangs around for 5 of those years, Tom and Bill will have to be around for another 10 to catch THEM.

  40. alltee says: Feb 3, 2012 2:35 PM

    love all the haters!!

    i understand not likeing teams there are plenty i dont like but your lame reasons and justifications from cheating to useless stats cant argue with the results.

    hate the pats all you want but if you are an nfl fan with a brain there is no debate on the greatness of both tom and bill

    an average of a superbowl appearance every second year for a decade!!

  41. lockoftheweak says: Feb 3, 2012 2:36 PM

    Wish I had Photoshop skills.

    I’d show Ryan Tebowing and kissing Belichick’s ring(s)

  42. gimmeabruschi says: Feb 3, 2012 2:38 PM

    See Rex, it’s not so bad to say nice things about people. You’re not a jerk, so why do you usually insist on talking like one? Give credit where it is due, and that includes your team too.

  43. bobhk says: Feb 3, 2012 2:39 PM

    More I read this dumb article more I think Rex is a buffoon (as if we needed any validation). He calls Brady the best big game QB of all time. I have not seen Unitas, Starr, Graham play. I did see Montana.

    In the big game,
    Montana: 4-0, Completion % 68, Passer rating: 127, Yards per pass: 9.36 (#4 all time), passing TDs: 11, passing yards: 1142 (4 games)
    Brady: 3-1, Completion % 64, Passer rating: 95, Yards per pass: not in top 10, passing TDs: 7, passing yards 1001 (4 games).

    Now, tell me who’s the better big game QB. Thumbs down all you want. Just shows you don’t understand numbers or records.
    Montana has blown out people and also done it in clutch.

  44. flash1283 says: Feb 3, 2012 2:40 PM

    badtimeoutcaldwell says:
    Feb 3, 2012 2:03 PM
    AFC Championships are big games…. However “mr. clutch” Tom Brady has thrown for 2 TDs and 5 INTs in his last 2 AFC Chmpshp games…. However they are 2-0 in those games, therefore no one will remember how bad he actually plays in those games and everyone just ignores the fact that his stats drop dramatically from regular season to post season.

    Must be nice to stink and still get wins and add to your “legacy”.
    ———–

    You left out the part about TB scoring the game winning TD in the last AFC Championship game.

    “his stats drop dramatically from regular season to post season”

    Kind of like your hero P. Manning (AKA bobble head).

  45. bodeee1975 says: Feb 3, 2012 3:08 PM

    Arguing over who is the best at positions or coaching is just pointless, there is no surefire way to decide….Montana had medocre regular season passing stats by todays standards, it just so happened in the post season he was brilliant….Now because a guy wins the superbowl does that make him a better QB then say a guy like Marino , who never had the talent that the 49ers did, but no question had the greater arm……Brady in the beginning of his career had mediocre passing numbers , just the last few years did they become this passing juggernaut…..Peyton manning, amazing passing numbers but only one ring…….John Elway, pretty good career numbers, 2-3 in superbowls…. Terry Bradshaw 4-0 superbowls but very mediocre at best passing numbers regular season……..
    There is no real surefire way to say who was BEST!!!! I think Montana was GREAT but still he had amazing talent to go along with him…

  46. lanpar says: Feb 3, 2012 3:08 PM

    All you Belichick fans….

    #1. Part of being a great coach is integrity of the game!

    #2. Belichick (spy gate) and majority of todays coaches lack integrity and that…like Ryan (Fred Flintstone loud mouth).

    #3. Don’t even try to compare these coaches to
    Vincent Thomas “Vince” Lombardi,
    Thomas Wade “Tom” Landry ,
    John Earl Madden ,
    Charles Henry “Chuck” Noll

    Stupid article by stupid reports who have not concept on how to report. Today’s sports reports are nothing more than gossip queens….

  47. ambitoos says: Feb 3, 2012 3:14 PM

    Mark Sanchez is now dating Kim Kardashion. Stupid is as stupid does.

  48. ken1313 says: Feb 3, 2012 3:14 PM

    mjbulls45 says: Feb 3, 2012 1:41 PM

    it only makes him look better

    bc

    he beat them in NE , a 14-2 team

    with mark sanchez,

    enuff said.

    ————————————————-

    And this has WHAT to do with THIS year’s Super Bowl? I could understand if Rex was busy shining up his Super Bowl trophies and rings…but he has NONE of either. Yep, he won a couple games…..hey…the Giants lost last year too….but ya know what..they are BOTH here in the Super Bowl THIS year….and the Jets are not…….again…….haven’t been since Joe Namath. So your statement is kinda “what the f*ckish”

  49. nfl1818 says: Feb 3, 2012 3:16 PM

    The Pats W-L % has been much better after the cheating scandal, much !

    stats usually deteriorate in playoffs vs tougher Ds

    Montana was insane – cant argue – also had superior talent

    49ers cheated on cap – no one else said they cheated in this way-

    contrast that with Pats – many top coaches said Pats form of “cheating” was routine – Pats filmed signals which could be easily replicated with 10 kids and with open and paper

    Bill and Brady both at or near the top – not even debatable – widespread agreement in media and among NFL people – 1st or 5th ? who cares

  50. brintfatre says: Feb 3, 2012 3:17 PM

    Please Rex, don’t guarantee the Pats will win…

  51. ihatetheeffingjets says: Feb 3, 2012 3:29 PM

    bobhk says:
    Feb 3, 2012 2:39 PM
    More I read this dumb article more I think Rex is a buffoon (as if we needed any validation). He calls Brady the best big game QB of all time. I have not seen Unitas, Starr, Graham play. I did see Montana.

    In the big game,
    Montana: 4-0, Completion % 68, Passer rating: 127, Yards per pass: 9.36 (#4 all time), passing TDs: 11, passing yards: 1142 (4 games)
    Brady: 3-1, Completion % 64, Passer rating: 95, Yards per pass: not in top 10, passing TDs: 7, passing yards 1001 (4 games).

    Now, tell me who’s the better big game QB. Thumbs down all you want. Just shows you don’t understand numbers or records.
    Montana has blown out people and also done it in clutch
    ————————-
    So you have framed “big game” to only mean the Super Bowl. What about the fact that between 1984 and 1988 Montana couldn’t win a playoff game? Weren’t those “big games”? Montana fans like to place the Super Bowl on an island because it best makes their point. How about comparing QBs’ overall playoff records and getting back to us?

  52. bodeee1975 says: Feb 3, 2012 3:30 PM

    Anyone who keeps bringing up the cheating, well…you are just being way to closeminded……PLEASE LOOK UP WHAT A LOT OF BIG NAME COACHES had to say about the whole spygate crap….Jimmy Johnson, Parcells,they said it was a normal thing, not much could be gained from it.. even loudmouthed Rexy, he was D-Coordinator for the ravens at the time ,he said that 10 other teams were still doing it…. People can hate the Patriots for whatever reason, but the whole cheating thing is just LAME!!!! No team can win it every year so the whole havent won since cheating scandal is just ridiculous……This guy has consistently built a winning club year in and year out and none of the other legendary coaches had free agency to deal with….Belichick certainly deserves credit as a GREAT GREAT COACH, where any of the greats rank, its all a matter of opinion…

  53. bobhk says: Feb 3, 2012 3:30 PM

    bodeee1975 says:
    Feb 3, 2012 3:08 PM
    Arguing over who is the best at positions or coaching is just pointless, there is no surefire way to decide….Montana had medocre regular season passing stats by todays standards, it just so happened in the post season he was brilliant…
    ———-
    Montana was mediocre in regular season (even by today’s standards)? Today’s stats inflation notwithstanding:

    Montana: career passes completed 3397 (#11 all time)
    passing yards : 40550 (#12 all time)
    passing TD: 273 (#12)

    I’d say that’s not mediocre by any standards. If he played with today’s standards, he may be #1.

    But, I agree with you on this: when the Defenses were tougher, in the playoffs, he was lights out. He may be the only guy who’s postseason performance is better than regular season.

  54. nickmiller63 says: Feb 3, 2012 3:33 PM

    Can you really say the 49ers “cheated” on a cap that did not exist? Be jealous of Eddie D’s spending, but it was not cheating.

  55. jerseyshoregiant says: Feb 3, 2012 3:35 PM

    whatnojets says:
    Feb 3, 2012 1:51 PM
    Davo says:
    Feb 3, 2012 1:39 PM
    Let’s face it – the real losers in this game are Jets fans.

    They have to choose between their “little brothers” the Giants or their hated enemy the Patriots.

    Sure, if the Pats win, they’ll puke, but if the Giants win, they’ll be reminding the Jets who really owns New York.

    The ticker tape parade down Manhattan will be unbearable, I’m sure.

    Yeah, this is a tough time to be Jets fan!

    But, I would rather see the Giants win than those arrogant buch from the redneck section up north!

    By the way, I guess you are NOT a New Yorker as it aready has been announced that there will be no ticket tape parade if the Giants win! The parade will be held in “beautiful, safest city in the world, Newark, NJ”.
    ___________________________
    @whatnojets, Nice Try but if the gmen win there will most certainly be a parade in NYC. also its a Ticker Tape parade not ticket tape.

    @Davo there is no need to remind Jets fans of anything, they know there place as 2nd fiddle!!!

  56. nflofficeadmin says: Feb 3, 2012 3:44 PM

    What no Caldwell + Manning?

  57. tombradyswig says: Feb 3, 2012 3:48 PM

    aren’t we all anti rex ryan?!?! Except Jests homers?! :P

  58. destructicus says: Feb 3, 2012 3:57 PM

    Don Shula.

  59. marcuswelby70 says: Feb 3, 2012 4:00 PM

    badtimeoutcaldwell says:
    Feb 3, 2012 2:03 PM
    AFC Championships are big games…. However “mr. clutch” Tom Brady has thrown for 2 TDs and 5 INTs in his last 2 AFC Chmpshp games…. However they are 2-0 in those games, therefore no one will remember how bad he actually plays in those games and everyone just ignores the fact that his stats drop dramatically from regular season to post season.

    Must be nice to stink and still get wins and add to your “legacy”.

    ———————————————–

    Yeah, maybe next year they should just cut the first ballott Hall of Famer!

  60. CKL says: Feb 3, 2012 4:01 PM

    gimmeabruschi says:
    Feb 3, 2012 2:38 PM
    See Rex, it’s not so bad to say nice things about people. You’re not a jerk, so why do you usually insist on talking like one? Give credit where it is due, and that includes your team too.
    _________________________________
    Rex has always been very complimentary to BB as a coach. ALWAYS. He’s called him “the best in the NFL” for a long time. I am surprised to see him give Brady props though. He loves to take little digs at him. Rex is in offseason mode. :)

    I’m sure he’s rooting for the NYG…that’s fine. I get that 100%. As a Pats fan, I wouldn’t root for the NYJ in the SB either.

  61. sellout3871 says: Feb 3, 2012 4:07 PM

    breaking news, Rex Ryan says something, more breaking news Rex Rayan blah blah blah Rex blah Ryan balh balh Rex Rex Rex blah blah blah news blah Rex blah…Rex says something else, blah blah blah

  62. jrfrom508 says: Feb 3, 2012 4:32 PM

    Way to not kiss the rings bro!!!!!!

  63. 13fitzj says: Feb 3, 2012 4:50 PM

    I’ll probably get thumbed down for not posting a jets hate comment, but Rex has never had anything but the highest praise for Brady and Belichick. He talks about how great Brady is whenever asked and always says thatbelichick is a great coach. He said he wouldn’t kiss hiss rings, but what do you want him to say, that he prays to them every night before he goes to bed?

  64. Deb says: Feb 3, 2012 4:57 PM

    It’s difficult to talk about the “best ever” because you can’t compare coaches/players from different eras, and “ever” isn’t over. New uber talents are always on the horizon. But whatever happens this weekend, Brady and Belichick are certainly among the small number of extraordinary coach/QB duos in league history. Other coaches have had more impact on the game, but I’d say Belichick is probably best in the league today.

    Like Jerry Rice, Brady keeps pushing himself even after years in the league and every possible achievement. He’s one of an elite few in any profession who doesn’t rest on what he’s done but keeps trying to drive himself to some new level of performance no one else knows is there. Great, great player.

  65. bobhk says: Feb 3, 2012 4:58 PM

    ihatetheeffingjets says:
    Feb 3, 2012 3:29 PM
    bobhk says:
    Feb 3, 2012 2:39 PM
    More I read this dumb article more I think Rex is a buffoon (as if we needed any validation). He calls Brady the best big game QB of all time. I have not seen Unitas, Starr, Graham play. I did see Montana.

    In the big game,
    Montana: 4-0, Completion % 68, Passer rating: 127, Yards per pass: 9.36 (#4 all time), passing TDs: 11, passing yards: 1142 (4 games)
    Brady: 3-1, Completion % 64, Passer rating: 95, Yards per pass: not in top 10, passing TDs: 7, passing yards 1001 (4 games).

    Now, tell me who’s the better big game QB. Thumbs down all you want. Just shows you don’t understand numbers or records.
    Montana has blown out people and also done it in clutch
    ————————-
    So you have framed “big game” to only mean the Super Bowl. What about the fact that between 1984 and 1988 Montana couldn’t win a playoff game? Weren’t those “big games”? Montana fans like to place the Super Bowl on an island because it best makes their point. How about comparing QBs’ overall playoff records and getting back to us?

    ——————
    How about the fact that Brady could not win a playoff game from 2007 until this year.

    Here are the playoff numbers of Montana and Brady (from pro-football-reference.com). I will put these up for you since you did not have any proper argument and were too lazy to dig it up yourself:

    Montana: Completed, Attempted, Yards, TD, INT, YPA, Comp%, Rating, Rushes, Rushing yards, YPR, Rushing TDs:
    460, 734, 5772, 45, 21, 7.9, 62.7, 95.6, 63, 314 , 53, 5.0, 2

    Bradys: Same legend:
    472,752, 5009, 36, 19, 6.6, 62.8, 87.6, 53, 80, 12, 1.5, 3

    Playoff W-L record:
    Montana: 16-7
    Brady: 16-5
    Before you start saying Brady has more wins, let him actually win one more game (it’s not a given).

    Superbowl W-L record:
    Montana: 4-0
    Brady: 3-1

    Now what’s your stupid argument? So now what’s your dumb argument regarding Brady being a better “big game” QB? BTW, when it comes to big nothing is bigger than superbowl, where Brady came up short.

    I regard Brady as one of the great ones, but people start saying dumb stuff as “he’s the greatest”. There’s probably not any one player at their position that’s the greatest (with the possible exception of Rice).

  66. bobhk says: Feb 3, 2012 5:09 PM

    I will add, Montana is the only QB is know who’s performance actually went up in playoffs (rating of 95 vs 92 in regular season) when the opposition is tougher.
    Most others go down (e.g. Brady’s 96 regular season vs 87 in playoffs).

  67. neuteronomy says: Feb 3, 2012 5:18 PM

    Monkeys typing shakespeare.

  68. infectorman says: Feb 3, 2012 5:29 PM

    Joe Montana had JERRY RICE

    Brady had? Moss for 2 years and then? everybody else….

    Peyton Manning Marvin Harrison and then Reggie freakin Wayne, Edge, Dallas Clark,
    AND an Indoor Stadium in the AFC South, nuff said.

    Case closed for modern day players.
    Brady is the best

  69. j0esixpack says: Feb 3, 2012 5:41 PM

    @ flaccounibrow

    for the love of Tebow, please take some time to learn the history of the NFL. Its well documented that the Grandfathers of Signal Stealing and spying are Lamar Hunt and George Halas… And they named the friggen AFC trophy after Hunt.

    The Patriots “cheating” wasn’t filming signal calling … It was filming from the sidelines.

    Filming of signal calls from the stands continues today.

    I’d love to hear your bizarre conspiracy theory of why every coordinator in the NFL covers his mouth when calling in plays.

    The Patriots having the first and only perfect regular 16-0 season AFTER they ended sideline taping is NOT proof they cant win without “cheating” – in fact it’s just the opposite. Get a clue.

  70. j0esixpack says: Feb 3, 2012 5:44 PM

    I’ll bet very few fans here know that the Dolphins lost their 1st round pick for cheating during the “perfect season”

    If Belichick has an asterisk so does Shula

  71. rushmatic says: Feb 3, 2012 5:50 PM

    bobhk says:

    I will add, Montana is the only QB is know who’s performance actually went up in playoffs (rating of 95 vs 92 in regular season) when the opposition is tougher.
    Most others go down (e.g. Brady’s 96 regular season vs 87 in playoffs).

    ___________________

    Wow, bobhk — stellar statistical analysis there. Montana’s career post-season rating compared to Brady’s one out of how many? Nice.

  72. patsfandave says: Feb 3, 2012 5:54 PM

    Pucker up and kiss the rings Rex! Save a kiss for the new one Bill will earn on Sunday!

  73. j0esixpack says: Feb 3, 2012 5:58 PM

    It’s actually pretty funny when even Rex Ryan thinks that those who assert that Belichick’s legacy is somehow tainted are full of sh!t

  74. dolfan8385 says: Feb 3, 2012 6:20 PM

    I’m surprised he didn’t say it was him and mark sanchez

  75. lanman11 says: Feb 3, 2012 6:32 PM

    Ryan can’t control the Giants success because they play in a separate conference and division. He can however do something about the Patriots, and he couldn’t. So while having the Giants win stinks for him, he can use it as leverage to get more out of ownership to build a competing team in NY. If the Patriots win it highlights that HE LOST to his direct competition. So, he builds them up as the best ever hoping that the Giants use it as motivation. Won’t work. He does this all the time. The act has worn thin.

    Besides, he can’t have the Giants in ALL the headlines now can he. Amazing how azz clowns like Ryan and Manning have to surface during Super Bowl week to get their daily recommended allowance of attention.

  76. grpatriot says: Feb 3, 2012 6:34 PM

    Damn people r stupid….I’m speachless on Rex…
    Montana had the best WR’s to play the game.
    Compare what Brady’s had to work with and if U still discount Brady, ask Montana….Joe said “Tom is already there!”

  77. cosanostra71 says: Feb 3, 2012 7:39 PM

    I honestly don’t understand the Rex Ryan hate. I’m a 49ers fan that has absolutely zero vested interest in the Jets, but I find him somewhat amusing.

  78. bobhk says: Feb 3, 2012 7:51 PM

    @grpatriot, @rushmatic
    either you guys are ret@rds or choose not to read.

    Montana did not have Rice to play with for the first 5 years.
    I love it when these Brady apologists start to make excuses. He did have Moss for 3 seasons. Still could not get it done.

    Are you guys seriously going to say that John Taylor was better than Wes Welker? Or Dwight Clark was better than Deion Branch?
    So much for that dumb theory.

    @rushmatic, learn to read. At 4.58pm (above) I posted complete statistics/performance of Brady (till now in his career) and Montana’s. If you don’t know how to read, I’ll spell it out for you: Montana has had superior postseason performances. I know you are a pats fan but it should be easy to read some numbers.

    The funniest is that doofuses like you are already proclaiming him the greatest ever when he’s still 3-1 in superbowls. I’m sure Giants fan love the fact that low IQ people like you are assuming that Brady’s already won. What if he loses? Will you shut up.

    I’ll also address the salary cap crap. Montana did not have to deal with it, but neither did his opponents. Montana also had to deal with his receivers getting mugged. Unlike Brady, refs did not baby him.

    BTW, Joe is being complimentary to Brady, as he should be…

    So, GTFO….

  79. bobhk says: Feb 3, 2012 7:59 PM

    rushmatic says:
    Feb 3, 2012 5:50 PM
    bobhk says:

    I will add, Montana is the only QB is know who’s performance actually went up in playoffs (rating of 95 vs 92 in regular season) when the opposition is tougher.
    Most others go down (e.g. Brady’s 96 regular season vs 87 in playoffs).

    ___________________

    Wow, bobhk — stellar statistical analysis there. Montana’s career post-season rating compared to Brady’s one out of how many? Nice.
    ——-
    I thought I’d do a separate post for mental midget @rushmatic:
    Montana: Regular season rating: 92, Postseason: 95
    Brady: Regular season rating:96, Postseason: 87.
    These are career numbers for both.

    Now, for the mentally challenged (that would be you @rushmatic): Montana’s career postseason performance went up compared to regular season (when the competition is tougher). Brady’s career postseason performance went down compared to his regular season.

    Feel free to thumbs down @rushmatic, if you don’t understand basic math/logic.

  80. pypersrealm says: Feb 3, 2012 10:37 PM

    Montana and Brady have actually had very similar careers.

    Montana’s passer rating stood out in his time but that’s b/c he played in the West Coast offense which is built around passing efficiency. The ratings of today’s QB’s are inflated b/c every team’s offensive system contains elements of Walsh’s West Coast offense.

    I don’t know who’s better and truthfully, I don’t care. Great is great! It’s a stupid argument to get worked up over as its all just opinion.

    All else being similar, the greatest difference between the two QB’s is that Montana was much more mobile while Brady has the much stronger arm. Which trait is more valuable depends on who you ask.

    At the end of the day, the only thing we can truly evaluate with any objectivity is the resumes that each QB assembles through their careers.

    On this front, Brady is in position to surpass all others and while the careers of all the other greats have come and gone, Brady is still going strong. It’s possible he could lose on Sunday and never make it back to the Super Bowl but its also possible that he could win and end up playing in two or even three more. Who knows?

    I say we need to avoid the media’s desire to define player legacies while their careers are still active. That process should wait until their careers end.

    Right now, Montana’s resume stands alone. But you’re all crazy not to acknowledge that Brady is in possession to not only match but ultimately surpass Joe Cool.

    In just 10 years (not counting yrs he didn’t play) as a starting QB, Brady has played in six Conference Championships (winning 5) and is going for his fourth Lombardi. He also has nine division titles in those ten years. His career record, including postseason, currently sits at 140 wins and 40 losses. He’s the first and only QB in NFL history to reach 100 games over .500 at any point in his career and he doesn’t appear to be slowing down anytime soon. What the Patriots have done under Brady is amazing. Regardless of what team you root for, we all should be able to appreciate greatness.

  81. richwizl says: Feb 3, 2012 11:33 PM

    Rex, watch and learn from Bill. Control your mouth and build a total team concept; the Jets will be good again, soon. Let’s Go Pats! Crush The Gnats!

  82. farvite says: Feb 4, 2012 12:42 AM

    Please advise when another coach & qb equal Lombari-Starr’s 5 Titles..

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