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DeBartolo and Parcells could be battling for one spot

Bill Parcells AP

The 2012 Pro Football Hall of Fame class is announced later this afternoon, and we’ll have the information up on the site live from the press conference here in Indianapolis.

This is not a year with a lot of “slam dunk” picks, so it could be one of the most heated debates between the Hall of Fame selectors in a while.

John “Moon” Mullin of CSNChicago.com points out that the presence of two “contributors” former Giants coach Bill Parcells and former 49ers owner Eddie Debartalo Jr. could make the debate even tougher.

It’s hard to separate players and it’s even harder to compare a coach and an owner to players. We wonder if Parcells and DeBartolo are fighting over one spot.

While Parcells doesn’t seem like a lock to get in on his first try, we suspect he’d have the upper hand over DeBartolo.

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16 Responses to “DeBartolo and Parcells could be battling for one spot”
  1. win1soon says: Feb 4, 2012 2:11 PM

    The HOF committee needs to separate players and owners, every year these guys knock out a player or two! They keep talking about the log jam at WR, well you wouldn’t have one if it was a seperate “wing”; why not get all 3 of the WR’s in this year and start a log jam at owner/coach/contributor?

  2. fumblenuts says: Feb 4, 2012 2:27 PM

    That pic of Parcells is a classic….He must like the smell of his own brand!

  3. kd75 says: Feb 4, 2012 2:32 PM

    Didn’t DeBartolo Jr get kicked out of the NFL over a gambling and corruption scandal?

  4. bobhk says: Feb 4, 2012 3:05 PM

    Parcells has been up for election previously in 2002 or 2003 and denied. He’s been overrated with seriously declining results in each of his successive stops.
    He may make it in but he’s overrated when compared to a number of his contemporaries (let alone the legends).

  5. jg725 says: Feb 4, 2012 3:34 PM

    Honestly – a coach that turned around several franchises, won two super bowls, took another team to the super bowl – only to lose at the end, and took a 1-15 jets team that completely stunk(and had a complete loser mentality throughout the entire organization after the kotite years) and brought them to within 30 minutes of the super bowl – and had a lasting effect on the cowboys(romo,ware, etc…) and not to mention the amazing coaches that came from him – belichick, coughlin, sean peyton, etc. – vs. an owner who had to do nothing but spend money to be successful???? come on – tell me which one really deserves to be in the hall of fame

  6. djstat says: Feb 4, 2012 3:53 PM

    Parcels is not overrated. 2 super bowls in a four season stretch and a super bowl appearance with New Englad who were 2-14 when he took over! If he is not HOF, who is?

  7. riverhorsey says: Feb 4, 2012 3:56 PM

    Parcells is one of the top coaches of all time. He’s in the same circle as Walsh, Gibbs and Shula who were all great coaches.

  8. eaglesnoles05 says: Feb 4, 2012 4:03 PM

    I’m sorry, but Bill Parcells belongs in the Hall of Fame. I don’t really wanna hear any reasons why he doesn’t. This year,next year, 10 years, I don’t care, but he’ll be in there. It’s Bill Par-friggin-cells.

    While your at it, go ahead and throw Randall Cunningham in there too, my boyhood hero. If those guys aren’t two of the most memorable “famous” NFL people ever, I don’t know what you’ve been watching.

  9. chachooga says: Feb 4, 2012 4:10 PM

    Please anyone but Parcells….WHY THE LOVE AFFAIR WITH THIS GUY?

    I am a Dolphin fan. He ruined Dallas…then came to Miami got paid ridiculous money and ruined Miami too.

    He is a one time Super Bowl winning coach. That is it. Everything else he touched was failure!

    Give it to the other guy!

  10. uwsptke says: Feb 4, 2012 4:25 PM

    Yeah, I’m not sure what Parcells has really done to be considered for the HOF. Did his Dolphins or Cowboys teams even win a playoff game? Look at the current career path of Mike Holmgren. If you let Parcells in, couldn’t make an argument for Holmgren? Why not let in every coach who’s won a Superbowl if you let Parcells in. Ron Wolf should get in long before Parcells. He helped build the early Raiders Super Bowl teams, when the Bucs became relevant after their early expansion years it was with his players, and obviously we all know how he resurrected the Green Bay program, which is still vibrant thanks to a front office filled with those who learned from him.

    The difference between the two men is that when Parcells chased the next big payday and bolted from a program, he ALWAYS left behind a big mess. Wolf didn’t.

  11. ninerdynasty says: Feb 4, 2012 4:45 PM

    kd75 says: Feb 4, 2012 2:32 PM

    Didn’t DeBartolo Jr get kicked out of the NFL over a gambling and corruption scandal?
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    Didnt he also win 5 superbowls in 13 years while taking a franchise that was in the bottom 10 that had never won anything when he took over.

  12. bobhk says: Feb 4, 2012 5:10 PM

    jg725 says:
    Feb 4, 2012 3:34 PM
    Honestly – a coach that turned around several franchises, won two super bowls, took another team to the super bowl – only to lose at the end, and took a 1-15 jets team that completely stunk(and had a complete loser mentality throughout the entire organization after the kotite years) and brought them to within 30 minutes of the super bowl – and had a lasting effect on the cowboys(romo,ware, etc…) and not to mention the amazing coaches that came from him – belichick, coughlin, sean peyton, etc. – vs. an owner who had to do nothing but spend money to be successful???? come on – tell me which one really deserves to be in the hall of fame
    —————
    He won his first superbowl. He needed a running back fumbling in the last 2 mins and a wide right kick to win his second. He was blown out in his third superbowl (where Greer not him assembled the roster). He lost in the AFC championship game with the jets. He was downright mediocre with the Cowboys (doesn’t even get credit for the talent as Jones was the one picking). He absolutely robbed the Dolphins.

    If this is not a negative downward trend then I don’t know what is. Belichick and Coughlin are only his true disciples. Payton was with him for 2 years and got his break elsewhere.

    The owner who you are dissing was directly responsible for hiring Walsh, was universally loved by his team for how he treated them, brought one of the best scouting programs. He’s directly responsible (as an owner) for one of the best runs in NFL history producing 5 lombardi trophies which is more than what you can say about Parcells.

    That said, I think Parcells will the one who makes it…

  13. billinlouisiana says: Feb 4, 2012 5:33 PM

    ninerdynasty says:Feb 4, 2012 4:45 PM

    kd75 says: Feb 4, 2012 2:32 PM

    Didn’t DeBartolo Jr get kicked out of the NFL over a gambling and corruption scandal?
    —————————————————–
    Didnt he also win 5 superbowls in 13 years while taking a franchise that was in the bottom 10 that had never won anything when he took over.

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    The 49er’s also were found to be cheating the cap while he was owner. De’Bartolo shouldn’t have even been listed on the bvallot for HOF.

  14. beeronthefridge says: Feb 4, 2012 5:59 PM

    Parcell’s never won a superbowl without belicheck.

    It’s a travesty that parcell – the creature from hell – is even considered for the superbowl.

  15. eaglesnoles05 says: Feb 4, 2012 6:15 PM

    Well, if/when belichick makes it, and during his acceptence speech he credits parcells, then we’ll know what he’s done to be considered for HOF. If you win a superbowl, merely, NO, that shouldn’t punch your ticket to the HOF. But if you win TWO, AND you have a bonifide league-wide accredited “COACHING TREE” growing out of you, then yeah, get him in there.

  16. farvite says: Feb 5, 2012 2:14 AM

    DeBartolo forced the League to change it’s rules beacuse he was operating like the.Yankees.

    Not sure that makes him Hall-worthy in and of itself, but I know how *players* who forced the League to change it’s rules are viewed/revered. (Mel Blount, Deacon Jones, ect)

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