Comments on: Hall of Fame ballot will be crowded in 2013 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/02/05/hall-of-fame-ballot-will-be-crowded-in-2013/ ProFootballTalk on NBCSports.com Thu, 23 May 2013 20:05:51 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.com/ By: ronnierotten http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/02/05/hall-of-fame-ballot-will-be-crowded-in-2013/#comment-1914278 Sun, 05 Aug 2012 02:58:09 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=225083#comment-1914278 Jonathan Ogden was the greatest left tackle of all time…. a true gentleman and friend to all his teammates and coaches…. going back to his UCLA days. He deserves the HOF honor in 2013. I look forward to his acceptance and speech. He is a class individual.

]]> By: sikafe http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/02/05/hall-of-fame-ballot-will-be-crowded-in-2013/#comment-1562440 Mon, 06 Feb 2012 10:18:05 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=225083#comment-1562440 @ogre2010

John Randle got in on the second ballot.

]]> By: ogre2010 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/02/05/hall-of-fame-ballot-will-be-crowded-in-2013/#comment-1561160 Sun, 05 Feb 2012 21:58:07 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=225083#comment-1561160 If John Randle got in on the first ballot then Warren Sapp should get in on the first ballot

]]> By: buffalomafia http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/02/05/hall-of-fame-ballot-will-be-crowded-in-2013/#comment-1561071 Sun, 05 Feb 2012 21:09:03 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=225083#comment-1561071 Andre Reed!

]]> By: dietrich43 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/02/05/hall-of-fame-ballot-will-be-crowded-in-2013/#comment-1560763 Sun, 05 Feb 2012 19:18:11 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=225083#comment-1560763 If Shields didn’t make it, how can Allen? For that matter, until Jerry Kramer is put in, the Hall should just admit that they hate guards. Swann and Stallworth deserve to be there, but Kramer doesn’t? What a joke.

]]> By: phillyphever http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/02/05/hall-of-fame-ballot-will-be-crowded-in-2013/#comment-1560701 Sun, 05 Feb 2012 18:52:48 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=225083#comment-1560701 gaadr says:
Feb 5, 2012 1:14 PM

The case for Sapp, Lynch (and ultimately Brooks) will likely be enhanced because they were key players on a defensive scheme that wound up permeating the NFL. Teams that adopted the Tampa 2 were looking for their own Sapp, Lynch and Brooks.

And Ronde Barber (who will also get into the HOF one day as well).

]]> By: 1bigtex http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/02/05/hall-of-fame-ballot-will-be-crowded-in-2013/#comment-1560678 Sun, 05 Feb 2012 18:40:37 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=225083#comment-1560678 @jbaxt
Uh dude, Larry Allen had 11 Pro Bowls at three different positions, played 4 different OL positions, and was All Pro 6 different times. That kind of trumps Will Shields, who was very good.

@ern215
You need to take off the Raider goggles and examine Plunkett’s career a bit closer. 15 year career with only FOUR winning seasons. No All Pro teams. No Pro Bowl selections. 34 more INTs than TDs. Never led the league in passing (top 5 only once). Did lead the league in INTs. 52% career passer who finished with a .500 record. Being twice as good as Trent Dilfer doesn’t mean you belong in Canton.

]]> By: stevez51 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/02/05/hall-of-fame-ballot-will-be-crowded-in-2013/#comment-1560642 Sun, 05 Feb 2012 18:23:57 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=225083#comment-1560642 All Pro is a select group of 1st teamers. Are you considered Pro Bowl as an alternate or when several players drop out??

There are no votes released for Football like Baseball. They way I understand it someone nominates a player gives a presentation for them to convince their worthiness and then it is voted on to make the 1st cut. Of course that is when the downgrading comes from the other voters who want their player in. Voters can hold a grudge against a nominee and talk them down. Some voters are sports writers and look out if you ever dissed them.

Kevin Greene was a monster but everyone thought it was roid rage and the voters are too influenced by the Steelers, Cowboys and other big name teams.

]]> By: gaadr http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/02/05/hall-of-fame-ballot-will-be-crowded-in-2013/#comment-1560614 Sun, 05 Feb 2012 18:14:26 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=225083#comment-1560614 The case for Sapp, Lynch (and ultimately Brooks) will likely be enhanced because they were key players on a defensive scheme that wound up permeating the NFL. Teams that adopted the Tampa 2 were looking for their own Sapp, Lynch and Brooks.

]]> By: daysend564 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/02/05/hall-of-fame-ballot-will-be-crowded-in-2013/#comment-1560569 Sun, 05 Feb 2012 18:01:12 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=225083#comment-1560569 @jbaxt
Just so you know….
All Pro Pro Bowl

]]> By: descendency http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/02/05/hall-of-fame-ballot-will-be-crowded-in-2013/#comment-1560542 Sun, 05 Feb 2012 17:53:41 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=225083#comment-1560542 Kevin Greene deserves to be in the Hall of Fame. It’s sickening how he isn’t. Lots of guys belong, but the line starts behind Kevin Greene. Man was a monster and is now part of the monster that is Clay Matthews.

]]> By: omegaichiban http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/02/05/hall-of-fame-ballot-will-be-crowded-in-2013/#comment-1560541 Sun, 05 Feb 2012 17:53:16 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=225083#comment-1560541 ruffbufffire…WOW lol Seriously though HALEY

]]> By: ruffbufffire http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/02/05/hall-of-fame-ballot-will-be-crowded-in-2013/#comment-1560463 Sun, 05 Feb 2012 17:22:04 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=225083#comment-1560463 Rod Woodson the best DB in the HOF said Reed was the hardest wr he had to cover!!! Reeds stats would have been higher but he and Kelly were having relations with the same woman. Kelly didnt throw to him for a year and half.

]]> By: schaeff08 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/02/05/hall-of-fame-ballot-will-be-crowded-in-2013/#comment-1560451 Sun, 05 Feb 2012 17:16:01 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=225083#comment-1560451 I agree with Sapp, Strahan, Allen and Odgen. But I like how everyone is bashing John Lynch. 14 NFL seasons, 9x Pro Bowl Selection, 4x All-Pro Selection, Super Bowl Champion, 2000 NFL Alumni Defensive Back of the Year, 2006 Bart Starr Man of the Year Award. And stats wise for his career: 740 tackles, 16 forced fumbles, 51 passes defended, 26 INT’s. Maybe he’s not a first ballot Hall of Famer, but he sure does deserve a bust in the HOF.

]]> By: keyshawn22 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/02/05/hall-of-fame-ballot-will-be-crowded-in-2013/#comment-1560448 Sun, 05 Feb 2012 17:14:09 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=225083#comment-1560448 Out of all the guys who didnt get in this year and are coming up for eligibility next year Sapp is by far the most deserving. I have been watching football since 1987 and i have never seen a more disruptive DT than Warren Sapp, he absolutely dominated games from a position that normally gets no recognition. He is light years better than Strahan.

I also hope that Parcells and carter can finally make it in next year.

]]> By: kmkhaine http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/02/05/hall-of-fame-ballot-will-be-crowded-in-2013/#comment-1560447 Sun, 05 Feb 2012 17:13:18 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=225083#comment-1560447 J.O. Needs to be 1st ballot

That is all

]]> By: jbaxt http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/02/05/hall-of-fame-ballot-will-be-crowded-in-2013/#comment-1560443 Sun, 05 Feb 2012 17:12:07 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=225083#comment-1560443 It’s “cute” Allen and Ogden had 7, and 9 probowls… That would be good if you were a anyone except Will Shields!!!

Will had freakin 12 pro-bowls and was left off… How can a guy be selected 12 times as being the top 4 in his position each of those years and guys with 5 and 6 get in?

Clearly the HOF voters aren’t watching the pro-bowls… along with the rest of us, but to be selected by your peers that many times… RIDICULOUS!

]]> By: coys10 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/02/05/hall-of-fame-ballot-will-be-crowded-in-2013/#comment-1560438 Sun, 05 Feb 2012 17:10:27 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=225083#comment-1560438 If Parcells did not get in, they should not even waste space with other coaches. There is not a coach alive, besides Bellichick, who is more deserving than him.

]]> By: southpaw2k http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/02/05/hall-of-fame-ballot-will-be-crowded-in-2013/#comment-1560432 Sun, 05 Feb 2012 17:09:47 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=225083#comment-1560432 I never understood the concept of a “first ballot” hall of famer. If the HOF is only for the best of the best, what’s the point of saying Player X deserves to get in the first year of eligibility versus those who have to wait a few years? It’s not like once a player is voted in, there’s anything to differentiate who was voted in when. I can understand those who may be borderline cases, but I don’t see why certain players are seen as first ballot guys as they approach eligibility for entry.

]]> By: buckeye1nation http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/02/05/hall-of-fame-ballot-will-be-crowded-in-2013/#comment-1560394 Sun, 05 Feb 2012 16:57:52 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=225083#comment-1560394 Not including Sapp as one of the biggest names on the list is a joke. 6 time All Pro selection, 90′s and 2000′s All Decade team, 1999 NFL Defensive Player of the Year, and a Super Bowl Championship. Second most sacks by a DT of all time and even today he is what DT’s are measured against..

]]> By: bluefan204 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/02/05/hall-of-fame-ballot-will-be-crowded-in-2013/#comment-1560380 Sun, 05 Feb 2012 16:56:01 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=225083#comment-1560380 phillyphever says: Feb 5, 2012 11:40 AM

Strahan, Odgen, Allen and Sapp should all get in on the first ballot.

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Completely agree. Every one of those guys were total beasts on the field week in and week out.

]]> By: phillyphever http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/02/05/hall-of-fame-ballot-will-be-crowded-in-2013/#comment-1560324 Sun, 05 Feb 2012 16:40:53 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=225083#comment-1560324 Strahan, Odgen, Allen and Sapp should all get in on the first ballot. At least the good news for those other guys is that next year is a very weak class of first timers (M. Harrison and Dungy are the only two up for induction).

]]> By: billinlouisiana http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/02/05/hall-of-fame-ballot-will-be-crowded-in-2013/#comment-1560300 Sun, 05 Feb 2012 16:31:42 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=225083#comment-1560300 Morton Anderson has no chance with the current group of voters since they refuse to really consider a “special teamer” for induction.

]]> By: deadmanwalking47 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/02/05/hall-of-fame-ballot-will-be-crowded-in-2013/#comment-1560299 Sun, 05 Feb 2012 16:31:23 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=225083#comment-1560299 Parcells should be voted in.Strahan does’nt deserve a 1st ballot HOF vote either.

]]> By: farvite http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/02/05/hall-of-fame-ballot-will-be-crowded-in-2013/#comment-1560277 Sun, 05 Feb 2012 16:21:26 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=225083#comment-1560277 If LeRoy Butler, Steve Atwater and Darren Woodson can’t get in, Lynch doesn’t deserve to be considered.

]]> By: farvite http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/02/05/hall-of-fame-ballot-will-be-crowded-in-2013/#comment-1560274 Sun, 05 Feb 2012 16:19:30 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=225083#comment-1560274 John Lynch.. HOF??.. Thanks for the laugh.

]]> By: dirtdawg55 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/02/05/hall-of-fame-ballot-will-be-crowded-in-2013/#comment-1560273 Sun, 05 Feb 2012 16:19:20 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=225083#comment-1560273 McNair, Anderson and Lynch are not Hall of Famers. Haley easily is but didn’t suck up to the media enough. Carter, Reed and Brown all deserve to get in. Can’t believe they haven’t yet.

]]> By: brooks07 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/02/05/hall-of-fame-ballot-will-be-crowded-in-2013/#comment-1560238 Sun, 05 Feb 2012 16:07:18 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=225083#comment-1560238 Josh, All due respect but Warren Sapp is the biggest name on that list. His personality aside, he is a 1st ballot Hall of Famer!

]]> By: daryllh http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/02/05/hall-of-fame-ballot-will-be-crowded-in-2013/#comment-1560233 Sun, 05 Feb 2012 16:05:35 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=225083#comment-1560233 I don’t think Steve McNair and Warren Sapp will be taking anybody’s spot on the final ballot.

]]> By: ern215 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/02/05/hall-of-fame-ballot-will-be-crowded-in-2013/#comment-1560216 Sun, 05 Feb 2012 15:59:15 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=225083#comment-1560216 they need to stop robbing our raiders and get them in there, t. brown, c. branch, j. plunkett, j. tatum, and many others deserve enshrinement.

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