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Carr on Manningham play: “In practice, you do not throw it to that guy”

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There are a lot of great benefits to covering the Super Bowl. Tops on my list: The view.

You can see plays as they actually develop. And when Eli Manning wound up to throw the ball down the sideline to Mario Manningham late in the fourth quarter, I thought the throw was trouble.  For the Giants.

The Patriots were playing two safeties deep like they were most of the game. Manningham was well covered. It was the type of throw Manning had judiciously avoided forcing into coverage all game, but the time had come to take a shot.

“In practice, you do not throw it to that guy,” said Manning’s backup David Carr to Michael Silver of Yahoo! Sports “I was like, What’s going on? But Eli had been feeling that safety [Chung] was cheating over to the other side, and we’d talked about it through the course of the game. It was just an incredible throw.”

Victor Cruz and Hakeem were the primary reads on the play. But Manning made what Manningham called a perfect throw. It’s the type of throw most quarterbacks don’t attempt.

“Um, our quarterback does,” Victor Cruz said.

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53 Responses to “Carr on Manningham play: “In practice, you do not throw it to that guy””
  1. tizomps says: Feb 7, 2012 9:49 AM

    green eggs and Eli Manningham

  2. thenaturalmevs says: Feb 7, 2012 9:51 AM

    If you watch that throw on replay it seems to gain speed and spin during flight… it was really a rare toss.

  3. thatdudewiththemarauder says: Feb 7, 2012 9:52 AM

    David Carr should shut up!! Dude should collect his money and ring. Who is David Carr anyway? I guess he forgot why he is the backup to the backups backup. By the way, very happy to see Devin Thomas get a ring. Hopefully we can get him back where he belongs, in Washington. HTTR!!

  4. joetoronto says: Feb 7, 2012 9:54 AM

    That throw was even more impressive than it seems when you consider how fast Manning read the play, after looking to the other side of the field first.

    He turned his head and in an instant decided to throw the ball there.

    That’s one sharp dude.

  5. cliffordc05 says: Feb 7, 2012 9:54 AM

    This was the type of throw that is only attempted in the fourth quarter when you are behind and it is what leads to greatness. Or Not. Eli Manning put his name in the books with that throw. Ordinary quarterbacks don’t even attempt it. Of course, ordinary quarterbacks lose the Superbowl because they don’t have the nerve to make that attempt.

  6. jeremycrowhurst says: Feb 7, 2012 9:56 AM

    He makes those throws. That’s why he’s a two-time Super Bowl MVP, and it’s why he’s twice led the league in INT’s. (And in 2007 he did both.)

  7. someidiotfromouthereintheprojects says: Feb 7, 2012 9:58 AM

    it’s a good thing the giants have such a savvy veteran backup like david carr for eli to consult when in need of sage and sound advice. i bet he even carries extra uberdouche gloves along too.

  8. mazenblue says: Feb 7, 2012 9:58 AM

    I was hoping to hear from Lloyd.

  9. soia311 says: Feb 7, 2012 9:59 AM

    thatdudewiththemarauder says:
    Feb 7, 2012 9:52 AM
    David Carr should shut up!! Dude should collect his money and ring. Who is David Carr anyway? I guess he forgot why he is the backup to the backups backup. By the way, very happy to see Devin Thomas get a ring. Hopefully we can get him back where he belongs, in Washington. HTTR!!
    ———————————————————————-

    You clearly aren’t aware that Carr isn’t criticizing Eli, but complimenting him, huh…

  10. kwgator says: Feb 7, 2012 10:00 AM

    We told you that David Carr was a Super Bowl QB

    — Texans Management

  11. paleandpasty says: Feb 7, 2012 10:00 AM

    David Carr means you don’t throw it to him because of the coverage and it is not a knock on Manningham. David Carr haters relax. Some other receivers are the better read because of the two deep safeties.

  12. mike5011ad says: Feb 7, 2012 10:06 AM

    Yeah, this title is a little bit misleading. I thought he was trashing Manningham. All he said was that he was the third option on that play and Manning made a great throw. That should be the headline…

  13. zaggs says: Feb 7, 2012 10:07 AM

    “and we’d talked about it through the course of the game.”

    Thats one of the big differences between Eli and Peyton. Eli is constantly talking and listening to the other QB’s. Peyton just talks.
    But yeah some of Eli’s best plays is when he throws a ball he probably shouldn’t and gives his receiver a chance to make a play.

  14. winkeroni says: Feb 7, 2012 10:09 AM

    I’m not a Giants fan but Eli is one of the funnest guys to watch. The guy is a gambler and has more guts than a lot of the guys out there. He’s a guy that is so obsessed with winning he’s not afraid to lose.

  15. wwwmattcom says: Feb 7, 2012 10:09 AM

    This is a throw every QB should be practicing, committing to muscle memory. A ball thrown where only the receiver can catch it. This was a result of perfect practice. Credit goes to Eli and Gilbride.

  16. realitypolice says: Feb 7, 2012 10:10 AM

    thatdudewiththemarauder says:
    Feb 7, 2012 9:52 AM
    David Carr should shut up!! Dude should collect his money and ring. Who is David Carr anyway?
    =================

    Wait to completely miss the point that he was praising Manning’s guts to make that throw.

    And Maraurders are ugly.

  17. thatdudewiththemarauder says: Feb 7, 2012 10:12 AM

    My bad soia311. No need to cry. Calm down. Sounds like you hang out with Brandon Jacobs. No need to chop my head off. Just sounded like he was bashing Manningham. HTTR!

  18. zaggs says: Feb 7, 2012 10:12 AM

    “cliffordc05 says: Feb 7, 2012 9:54 AM

    This was the type of throw that is only attempted in the fourth quarter when you are behind and it is what leads to greatness. Or Not. Eli Manning put his name in the books with that throw. Ordinary quarterbacks don’t even attempt it. Of course, ordinary quarterbacks lose the Superbowl because they don’t have the nerve to make that attempt.”

    Exactly. Everyone should back off Carr. Anyone watching knew Eli should not have thrown it to Manningham because of the coverage which is all that Carr is saying.

  19. thatdudewiththemarauder says: Feb 7, 2012 10:14 AM

    You to realitypolice!! Thanks on the comment about my car, or did i miss something in that too? Angry a** Giants fans.

  20. thereisalwaysnextyear says: Feb 7, 2012 10:20 AM

    Carr, that’s why you’re a backup.

  21. dionoil says: Feb 7, 2012 10:21 AM

    I forgot Carr played for them. Him getting a ring seems somehow an injustice

  22. jacunn2000 says: Feb 7, 2012 10:24 AM

    Carr has a Super Bowl ring. LOL..

  23. dalucks says: Feb 7, 2012 10:28 AM

    David Carr is fortunate to be in the NFL after those pathetic years in Houston. As a Texans fan, Charlie Casserly and David Carr are the two biggest reasons it took the Texans ten years to make the playoffs. Holding a clipboard is the only thing David Carr is capable of doing in the NFL.

  24. bigbluedeadhead says: Feb 7, 2012 10:41 AM

    “In practice, you do not throw it to that guy,” said Manning’s backup David Carr.

    * * * * * * *

    Of course you don’t. The coverage would have been Corey Webster and Kenny Philips! Much different!

  25. beedubyatoo says: Feb 7, 2012 10:41 AM

    Eli’s a great qb, but other elite qb’s would make the same throw given the same situation. Off hand I can think of Rodgers, Brees, probably Stafford and oh yeah, Peyton. I didn’t forget Brady, he can’t make that throw that acurately.

  26. bearsrulepackdrool says: Feb 7, 2012 10:44 AM

    Why life is sometimes unfair:

    Dan Marino
    61,000+ passing yards
    8,000+ pass attempts
    4,500+ completions
    400+ TDs
    9 Pro Bowls
    1 MVP
    2005 Hall of Famer

    ZERO SUPER BOWL RINGS

    Byron Leftwich-1
    David Carr – 1
    Jim Miller – 1
    Mark Brunell – 1 (well he’s had an impressive resume)

  27. jaltreality says: Feb 7, 2012 10:54 AM


    the dude with the marauder says:
    Feb 7, 2012 9:52 AM:
    David Carr should shut up!! Dude should collect his money and ring. Who is David Carr anyway?

    ———–

    Oh, David Carr? He’s a professional player in the National Football League, a former overall first pick with a disappointing career, but who has still made far more money than you can dream of (around $35 million to date, and he’s a FA this year), a pretty tough guy who once took 76 sacks in a single season and, at 6’3″ and over 215lbs, stands at a figure you’d likely never actually have the courage to tell to “shut up” in person, though that’s unlikely to happen because he probably doesn’t frequent your personal, favorite Luby’s.

    Or did you not ask that question seriously, keyboard warrior?

  28. flyingitalian says: Feb 7, 2012 11:05 AM

    A play the will go down in Giants lore and David Carr needs to p!ss on it with his immature comments. Eli made a surgical throw and Mario made an All-Pro catch. No need for the negative comments. Has he been hanging out with Tiki?

  29. bearsrulepackdrool says: Feb 7, 2012 11:11 AM

    You know what amazes me?

    How a guy like David Carr, who has done just about nothing as a starter, but gain a photographic memory of what the ceiling of Reliant Stadium looks like (after getting sacked so many times), can get a ring as a backup. Yet, guys like Daunte Culpepper, JaMarcus Russell, Donovan McNabb, Troy Smith, and others, can’t even get tryouts any more. Yea, they are horrible but you’re telling me that David Carr is better or any of the Bears QB that started this year instead of Cutler? or even their third string (if they have one) QB?

    Sometimes people need to swallow they’re pride

  30. thepragmaticcowboy says: Feb 7, 2012 11:11 AM

    Carr on Manningham play: “In practice, you just take the sack.”

  31. rmc1995 says: Feb 7, 2012 11:25 AM

    This is why Nicks should have been the MVP. He found the soft spots of the zone while Cruz was running routes into it’s teeth. Nicks forced the zone to adjust to him. To Eli’s credit he recognized it, but because Nicks could read what the defense was giving up, Eli didn’t have to force any throws.

  32. cmack21 says: Feb 7, 2012 11:36 AM

    So is he pretty tough because he constantly got hit in the mouth and took close to 5 SACKS A GAME?!? That’s not getting the ball out of your hand, not being tough. Do you understand football, or just regurgitate everything you hear on ESPN. & I dont mean fantasy football/madden.

    jaltreality says:
    Feb 7, 2012 10:54 AM

    Oh, David Carr? He’s a professional player in the National Football League, a former overall first pick with a disappointing career, but who has still made far more money than you can dream of (around $35 million to date, and he’s a FA this year), a pretty tough guy who once took 76 sacks in a single season and, at 6’3″ and over 215lbs, stands at a figure you’d likely never actually have the courage to tell to “shut up” in person, though that’s unlikely to happen because he probably doesn’t frequent your personal, favorite Luby’s.

    Or did you not ask that question seriously, keyboard warrior?

    2 1

  33. andrejohnsonforpresident says: Feb 7, 2012 11:37 AM

    First off.. David Carr.. I really do hate you (more like the o-line the first 5 years)

    Just gotta say that was a crazy throw. Easy E plays with no fear

  34. johntonioholmes says: Feb 7, 2012 11:38 AM

    People will jump on me for this, but Eli’s Bro routinely made that throw.

    That was such a great pass and catch though.

  35. bigbluefan1 says: Feb 7, 2012 11:49 AM

    Game on the line cool Eli take the snap and does what needs to be done he throws the perfect pass

    Was it tight yes but again that is what you expect from Eli the perfect play when it is needed.

    Folks time to wake up and know that Eli is Elite and the Giants pulled of the deal of deal’s on draft day.

    The first step to winning two SB in 4 years is a front office that know’s the X&O’s and the $

  36. 2sausage11 says: Feb 7, 2012 11:54 AM

    jaltreality says:
    Feb 7, 2012 10:54 AM
    a pretty tough guy who once took 76 sacks in a single season
    ==========================
    This is what hurt him later on. He took a beating that year and I think it made him somewhat gun shy

  37. fittytuckin says: Feb 7, 2012 11:54 AM

    @jaltreality

    I can’t for the life of me figure out why you are slurping David effing Carr so hard? The guy shouldn’t even be in the nfl and played some of the worst football ever when he was a starter. I witnessed it firsthand.

  38. mdpickles says: Feb 7, 2012 11:55 AM

    I know everyone wants to talk about the miracle pass to Tyree 4 years ago, but this throw and catch (even though it wasn’t for a TD) is right up there with Roethlisberger to Holmes and Montana to Taylor as money Super Bowl passes.

  39. patsfiend says: Feb 7, 2012 11:58 AM

    It was a great pass. The other one he sent down the other sideline (that Manningham stepped out on) was also a great toss. Like the “helmet” catch a few years ago… it was this play that sent me the signal… “This game is over. Your team is going to lose. Go open two beers immediately.”

  40. strangebrew5 says: Feb 7, 2012 12:10 PM

    Please ask someone other than David Carr for his opinion on when you would make that throw. He only throws the ball away or checks it down. What does he know about making a tough throw down the field.

  41. cloudchamber2992 says: Feb 7, 2012 12:11 PM

    With only one receiver on that side of the field, the minute the Patriots’ corner gave Manningham an outside release the play was over (even with safety help over the top). A combo of the set up from the throw earlier that was caught out of bounds, a great eye by Eli at the top of the play, with an amazing throw. But Manningham was open and open early.

  42. ebeg420 says: Feb 7, 2012 12:12 PM

    David Carr’s ring should be made up of Brass and Cubic Zirconia

  43. shnakeriver says: Feb 7, 2012 12:16 PM

    From the headline of this item, you might think that Carr was somehow bashing Manningham, when in reality, all he seems to be saying is that Manningham wasn’t the primary receiver and he would usually be well-covered given the coverage scheme. Why does PFT feel the need to draw people in to read these things with misleading headlines? Kind of pathetic.

  44. gator2006 says: Feb 7, 2012 12:40 PM

    ManningH.A.M.

  45. sean6886 says: Feb 7, 2012 12:49 PM

    thatdudewiththemarauder says:
    Feb 7, 2012 9:52 AM
    David Carr should shut up!! Dude should collect his money and ring. Who is David Carr anyway? I guess he forgot why he is the backup to the backups backup. By the way, very happy to see Devin Thomas get a ring. Hopefully we can get him back where he belongs, in Washington. HTTR!!

    __________________________

    Did you even read the article?

  46. dexterismyhero says: Feb 7, 2012 12:56 PM

    I thought David Carr was Joey Harrington

  47. davemeisner says: Feb 7, 2012 1:40 PM

    THIS ALL MAKES SENSE NOW!
    The reason the pats couldn’t defend this play was because they don’t pass it to that guy in practice… and from all that illegal tape of the Giants practices, they were sure it was going to Cruz or Nicks.

  48. gcsuk says: Feb 7, 2012 1:53 PM

    bearsrulepackdrool says: Feb 7, 2012 11:11 AM

    You know what amazes me?

    How a guy like David Carr, who has done just about nothing as a starter, but gain a photographic memory of what the ceiling of Reliant Stadium looks like (after getting sacked so many times), can get a ring as a backup. Yet, guys like Daunte Culpepper, JaMarcus Russell, Donovan McNabb, Troy Smith, and others, can’t even get tryouts any more. Yea, they are horrible but you’re telling me that David Carr is better or any of the Bears QB that started this year instead of Cutler? or even their third string (if they have one) QB?
    ———————————————————————

    Carr has only played in Pre-Season and mop up duty for the Giants (granted there usually isn’t a ton of “mop up duty”), but he obviously has shown the Giants coaching staff and brass enough to keep him there. I can only assume that Jerry Reese and Tom Coughlin know more about what fits the Giants best, better than you.

    Did you really say “JaMarcus Russell”? REALLY?!?!

  49. soia311 says: Feb 7, 2012 4:16 PM

    thatdudewiththemarauder says:
    Feb 7, 2012 10:12 AM
    My bad soia311. No need to cry. Calm down. Sounds like you hang out with Brandon Jacobs. No need to chop my head off. Just sounded like he was bashing Manningham. HTTR!
    ————————————————————–

    I wasn’t “chopping your head off” at all. No worries, man. I’m alright. I was just taking the opportunity to mock your ability to comprehend the English language.

  50. rdav29 says: Feb 7, 2012 5:41 PM

    Eli Manning. He plays football. Professionally.

  51. jaltreality says: Feb 7, 2012 6:43 PM


    cmack21 says:
    Feb 7, 2012 11:36 AM
    So is he pretty tough because he constantly got hit in the mouth and took close to 5 SACKS A GAME?!? That’s not getting the ball out of your hand, not being tough. Do you understand football, or just regurgitate everything you hear on ESPN. & I dont mean fantasy football/madden.

    Don’t get me wrong: I don’t think David Carr is a great QB or anything. And perhaps not getting the ball out of his hand fast enough was the problem, but I don’t see why the two are mutually exclusive. Yes, he is tough, and you’re kidding yourself if you think otherwise. Have you ever been sacked once while playing real football (not “fantasy football/madden”)? It hurts, and that’s just a buddy doing it, much less a NFL defensive end. Imagine getting sacked 76 times. You’d probably cry, or break, in all honesty. Or cry AND break.

    No one is saying David Carr should be inducted into the Hall of Fame. But it’s hard to deny that truth. In my mind, it’s actually only the disconnected fans who just sit on their couch and play fantasy who don’t appreciate the realities of the game.

  52. cmack21 says: Feb 7, 2012 7:42 PM

    i get your point dude, so next time im watching ufc or boxing i know the tough guy is the one who is on the ground who just got his lights punched out & is seeing stars. Ive been sacked before not by a “buddy” playing in the yard but playing for real with the pads on. and it does hurt, but being a punching bag dosent make you tough it makes you a target.
    I know the reality of the game from little leauge to semi pro so; no crying and breaking here little man, i make ppl cry and break them now.
    jaltreality says:
    Feb 7, 2012 6:43 PM

    cmack21 says:
    Feb 7, 2012 11:36 AM
    So is he pretty tough because he constantly got hit in the mouth and took close to 5 SACKS A GAME?!? That’s not getting the ball out of your hand, not being tough. Do you understand football, or just regurgitate everything you hear on ESPN. & I dont mean fantasy football/madden.

    Don’t get me wrong: I don’t think David Carr is a great QB or anything. And perhaps not getting the ball out of his hand fast enough was the problem, but I don’t see why the two are mutually exclusive. Yes, he is tough, and you’re kidding yourself if you think otherwise. Have you ever been sacked once while playing real football (not “fantasy football/madden”)? It hurts, and that’s just a buddy doing it, much less a NFL defensive end. Imagine getting sacked 76 times. You’d probably cry, or break, in all honesty. Or cry AND break.

    No one is saying David Carr should be inducted into the Hall of Fame. But it’s hard to deny that truth. In my mind, it’s actually only the disconnected fans who just sit on their couch and play fantasy who don’t appreciate the realities of the game.

  53. themokoda says: Feb 7, 2012 10:27 PM

    While I’m not saying any player should be just flat out stupid (think: DaFarce-Is-Us Russell), I believe that those who are willing to take a gamble and not shrink away from it are the ones who wind up champions and winners more often that those who are too concerned about not F-ing up and wind up playing it TOO safe.

    Of course, had that ball been incomplete, Eli would have looked like a fool for throwing it; had it been intercepted, he would have looked like the village idiot and there would have been calls to have him drawn and quartered! I think one has to applaud his courage. He knew he needed to make something big happen so he took the shot.

    Another good example is Brett Favre. Look at how many picks he threw on the way to a HOF career. And some might remember, Joe Namath threw a lot of picks too. The winners circle is no place for punks!

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