Carr on Manningham play: “In practice, you do not throw it to that guy”

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There are a lot of great benefits to covering the Super Bowl. Tops on my list: The view.

You can see plays as they actually develop. And when Eli Manning wound up to throw the ball down the sideline to Mario Manningham late in the fourth quarter, I thought the throw was trouble.  For the Giants.

The Patriots were playing two safeties deep like they were most of the game. Manningham was well covered. It was the type of throw Manning had judiciously avoided forcing into coverage all game, but the time had come to take a shot.

“In practice, you do not throw it to that guy,” said Manning’s backup David Carr to Michael Silver of Yahoo! Sports “I was like, What’s going on? But Eli had been feeling that safety [Chung] was cheating over to the other side, and we’d talked about it through the course of the game. It was just an incredible throw.”

Victor Cruz and Hakeem were the primary reads on the play. But Manning made what Manningham called a perfect throw. It’s the type of throw most quarterbacks don’t attempt.

“Um, our quarterback does,” Victor Cruz said.

53 responses to “Carr on Manningham play: “In practice, you do not throw it to that guy”

  1. David Carr should shut up!! Dude should collect his money and ring. Who is David Carr anyway? I guess he forgot why he is the backup to the backups backup. By the way, very happy to see Devin Thomas get a ring. Hopefully we can get him back where he belongs, in Washington. HTTR!!

  2. That throw was even more impressive than it seems when you consider how fast Manning read the play, after looking to the other side of the field first.

    He turned his head and in an instant decided to throw the ball there.

    That’s one sharp dude.

  3. This was the type of throw that is only attempted in the fourth quarter when you are behind and it is what leads to greatness. Or Not. Eli Manning put his name in the books with that throw. Ordinary quarterbacks don’t even attempt it. Of course, ordinary quarterbacks lose the Superbowl because they don’t have the nerve to make that attempt.

  4. thatdudewiththemarauder says:
    Feb 7, 2012 9:52 AM
    David Carr should shut up!! Dude should collect his money and ring. Who is David Carr anyway? I guess he forgot why he is the backup to the backups backup. By the way, very happy to see Devin Thomas get a ring. Hopefully we can get him back where he belongs, in Washington. HTTR!!
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    You clearly aren’t aware that Carr isn’t criticizing Eli, but complimenting him, huh…

  5. David Carr means you don’t throw it to him because of the coverage and it is not a knock on Manningham. David Carr haters relax. Some other receivers are the better read because of the two deep safeties.

  6. Yeah, this title is a little bit misleading. I thought he was trashing Manningham. All he said was that he was the third option on that play and Manning made a great throw. That should be the headline…

  7. “and we’d talked about it through the course of the game.”

    Thats one of the big differences between Eli and Peyton. Eli is constantly talking and listening to the other QB’s. Peyton just talks.
    But yeah some of Eli’s best plays is when he throws a ball he probably shouldn’t and gives his receiver a chance to make a play.

  8. I’m not a Giants fan but Eli is one of the funnest guys to watch. The guy is a gambler and has more guts than a lot of the guys out there. He’s a guy that is so obsessed with winning he’s not afraid to lose.

  9. This is a throw every QB should be practicing, committing to muscle memory. A ball thrown where only the receiver can catch it. This was a result of perfect practice. Credit goes to Eli and Gilbride.

  10. thatdudewiththemarauder says:
    Feb 7, 2012 9:52 AM
    David Carr should shut up!! Dude should collect his money and ring. Who is David Carr anyway?
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    Wait to completely miss the point that he was praising Manning’s guts to make that throw.

    And Maraurders are ugly.

  11. “cliffordc05 says: Feb 7, 2012 9:54 AM

    This was the type of throw that is only attempted in the fourth quarter when you are behind and it is what leads to greatness. Or Not. Eli Manning put his name in the books with that throw. Ordinary quarterbacks don’t even attempt it. Of course, ordinary quarterbacks lose the Superbowl because they don’t have the nerve to make that attempt.”

    Exactly. Everyone should back off Carr. Anyone watching knew Eli should not have thrown it to Manningham because of the coverage which is all that Carr is saying.

  12. David Carr is fortunate to be in the NFL after those pathetic years in Houston. As a Texans fan, Charlie Casserly and David Carr are the two biggest reasons it took the Texans ten years to make the playoffs. Holding a clipboard is the only thing David Carr is capable of doing in the NFL.

  13. “In practice, you do not throw it to that guy,” said Manning’s backup David Carr.

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    Of course you don’t. The coverage would have been Corey Webster and Kenny Philips! Much different!

  14. Eli’s a great qb, but other elite qb’s would make the same throw given the same situation. Off hand I can think of Rodgers, Brees, probably Stafford and oh yeah, Peyton. I didn’t forget Brady, he can’t make that throw that acurately.

  15. Why life is sometimes unfair:

    Dan Marino
    61,000+ passing yards
    8,000+ pass attempts
    4,500+ completions
    400+ TDs
    9 Pro Bowls
    1 MVP
    2005 Hall of Famer

    ZERO SUPER BOWL RINGS

    Byron Leftwich-1
    David Carr – 1
    Jim Miller – 1
    Mark Brunell – 1 (well he’s had an impressive resume)


  16. the dude with the marauder says:
    Feb 7, 2012 9:52 AM:
    David Carr should shut up!! Dude should collect his money and ring. Who is David Carr anyway?

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    Oh, David Carr? He’s a professional player in the National Football League, a former overall first pick with a disappointing career, but who has still made far more money than you can dream of (around $35 million to date, and he’s a FA this year), a pretty tough guy who once took 76 sacks in a single season and, at 6’3″ and over 215lbs, stands at a figure you’d likely never actually have the courage to tell to “shut up” in person, though that’s unlikely to happen because he probably doesn’t frequent your personal, favorite Luby’s.

    Or did you not ask that question seriously, keyboard warrior?

  17. A play the will go down in Giants lore and David Carr needs to p!ss on it with his immature comments. Eli made a surgical throw and Mario made an All-Pro catch. No need for the negative comments. Has he been hanging out with Tiki?

  18. You know what amazes me?

    How a guy like David Carr, who has done just about nothing as a starter, but gain a photographic memory of what the ceiling of Reliant Stadium looks like (after getting sacked so many times), can get a ring as a backup. Yet, guys like Daunte Culpepper, JaMarcus Russell, Donovan McNabb, Troy Smith, and others, can’t even get tryouts any more. Yea, they are horrible but you’re telling me that David Carr is better or any of the Bears QB that started this year instead of Cutler? or even their third string (if they have one) QB?

    Sometimes people need to swallow they’re pride

  19. This is why Nicks should have been the MVP. He found the soft spots of the zone while Cruz was running routes into it’s teeth. Nicks forced the zone to adjust to him. To Eli’s credit he recognized it, but because Nicks could read what the defense was giving up, Eli didn’t have to force any throws.

  20. So is he pretty tough because he constantly got hit in the mouth and took close to 5 SACKS A GAME?!? That’s not getting the ball out of your hand, not being tough. Do you understand football, or just regurgitate everything you hear on ESPN. & I dont mean fantasy football/madden.

    jaltreality says:
    Feb 7, 2012 10:54 AM

    Oh, David Carr? He’s a professional player in the National Football League, a former overall first pick with a disappointing career, but who has still made far more money than you can dream of (around $35 million to date, and he’s a FA this year), a pretty tough guy who once took 76 sacks in a single season and, at 6’3″ and over 215lbs, stands at a figure you’d likely never actually have the courage to tell to “shut up” in person, though that’s unlikely to happen because he probably doesn’t frequent your personal, favorite Luby’s.

    Or did you not ask that question seriously, keyboard warrior?

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  21. Game on the line cool Eli take the snap and does what needs to be done he throws the perfect pass

    Was it tight yes but again that is what you expect from Eli the perfect play when it is needed.

    Folks time to wake up and know that Eli is Elite and the Giants pulled of the deal of deal’s on draft day.

    The first step to winning two SB in 4 years is a front office that know’s the X&O’s and the $

  22. jaltreality says:
    Feb 7, 2012 10:54 AM
    a pretty tough guy who once took 76 sacks in a single season
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    This is what hurt him later on. He took a beating that year and I think it made him somewhat gun shy

  23. @jaltreality

    I can’t for the life of me figure out why you are slurping David effing Carr so hard? The guy shouldn’t even be in the nfl and played some of the worst football ever when he was a starter. I witnessed it firsthand.

  24. I know everyone wants to talk about the miracle pass to Tyree 4 years ago, but this throw and catch (even though it wasn’t for a TD) is right up there with Roethlisberger to Holmes and Montana to Taylor as money Super Bowl passes.

  25. It was a great pass. The other one he sent down the other sideline (that Manningham stepped out on) was also a great toss. Like the “helmet” catch a few years ago… it was this play that sent me the signal… “This game is over. Your team is going to lose. Go open two beers immediately.”

  26. Please ask someone other than David Carr for his opinion on when you would make that throw. He only throws the ball away or checks it down. What does he know about making a tough throw down the field.

  27. With only one receiver on that side of the field, the minute the Patriots’ corner gave Manningham an outside release the play was over (even with safety help over the top). A combo of the set up from the throw earlier that was caught out of bounds, a great eye by Eli at the top of the play, with an amazing throw. But Manningham was open and open early.

  28. From the headline of this item, you might think that Carr was somehow bashing Manningham, when in reality, all he seems to be saying is that Manningham wasn’t the primary receiver and he would usually be well-covered given the coverage scheme. Why does PFT feel the need to draw people in to read these things with misleading headlines? Kind of pathetic.

  29. thatdudewiththemarauder says:
    Feb 7, 2012 9:52 AM
    David Carr should shut up!! Dude should collect his money and ring. Who is David Carr anyway? I guess he forgot why he is the backup to the backups backup. By the way, very happy to see Devin Thomas get a ring. Hopefully we can get him back where he belongs, in Washington. HTTR!!

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    Did you even read the article?

  30. THIS ALL MAKES SENSE NOW!
    The reason the pats couldn’t defend this play was because they don’t pass it to that guy in practice… and from all that illegal tape of the Giants practices, they were sure it was going to Cruz or Nicks.

  31. bearsrulepackdrool says: Feb 7, 2012 11:11 AM

    You know what amazes me?

    How a guy like David Carr, who has done just about nothing as a starter, but gain a photographic memory of what the ceiling of Reliant Stadium looks like (after getting sacked so many times), can get a ring as a backup. Yet, guys like Daunte Culpepper, JaMarcus Russell, Donovan McNabb, Troy Smith, and others, can’t even get tryouts any more. Yea, they are horrible but you’re telling me that David Carr is better or any of the Bears QB that started this year instead of Cutler? or even their third string (if they have one) QB?
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    Carr has only played in Pre-Season and mop up duty for the Giants (granted there usually isn’t a ton of “mop up duty”), but he obviously has shown the Giants coaching staff and brass enough to keep him there. I can only assume that Jerry Reese and Tom Coughlin know more about what fits the Giants best, better than you.

    Did you really say “JaMarcus Russell”? REALLY?!?!

  32. thatdudewiththemarauder says:
    Feb 7, 2012 10:12 AM
    My bad soia311. No need to cry. Calm down. Sounds like you hang out with Brandon Jacobs. No need to chop my head off. Just sounded like he was bashing Manningham. HTTR!
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    I wasn’t “chopping your head off” at all. No worries, man. I’m alright. I was just taking the opportunity to mock your ability to comprehend the English language.


  33. cmack21 says:
    Feb 7, 2012 11:36 AM
    So is he pretty tough because he constantly got hit in the mouth and took close to 5 SACKS A GAME?!? That’s not getting the ball out of your hand, not being tough. Do you understand football, or just regurgitate everything you hear on ESPN. & I dont mean fantasy football/madden.

    Don’t get me wrong: I don’t think David Carr is a great QB or anything. And perhaps not getting the ball out of his hand fast enough was the problem, but I don’t see why the two are mutually exclusive. Yes, he is tough, and you’re kidding yourself if you think otherwise. Have you ever been sacked once while playing real football (not “fantasy football/madden”)? It hurts, and that’s just a buddy doing it, much less a NFL defensive end. Imagine getting sacked 76 times. You’d probably cry, or break, in all honesty. Or cry AND break.

    No one is saying David Carr should be inducted into the Hall of Fame. But it’s hard to deny that truth. In my mind, it’s actually only the disconnected fans who just sit on their couch and play fantasy who don’t appreciate the realities of the game.

  34. i get your point dude, so next time im watching ufc or boxing i know the tough guy is the one who is on the ground who just got his lights punched out & is seeing stars. Ive been sacked before not by a “buddy” playing in the yard but playing for real with the pads on. and it does hurt, but being a punching bag dosent make you tough it makes you a target.
    I know the reality of the game from little leauge to semi pro so; no crying and breaking here little man, i make ppl cry and break them now.
    jaltreality says:
    Feb 7, 2012 6:43 PM

    cmack21 says:
    Feb 7, 2012 11:36 AM
    So is he pretty tough because he constantly got hit in the mouth and took close to 5 SACKS A GAME?!? That’s not getting the ball out of your hand, not being tough. Do you understand football, or just regurgitate everything you hear on ESPN. & I dont mean fantasy football/madden.

    Don’t get me wrong: I don’t think David Carr is a great QB or anything. And perhaps not getting the ball out of his hand fast enough was the problem, but I don’t see why the two are mutually exclusive. Yes, he is tough, and you’re kidding yourself if you think otherwise. Have you ever been sacked once while playing real football (not “fantasy football/madden”)? It hurts, and that’s just a buddy doing it, much less a NFL defensive end. Imagine getting sacked 76 times. You’d probably cry, or break, in all honesty. Or cry AND break.

    No one is saying David Carr should be inducted into the Hall of Fame. But it’s hard to deny that truth. In my mind, it’s actually only the disconnected fans who just sit on their couch and play fantasy who don’t appreciate the realities of the game.

  35. While I’m not saying any player should be just flat out stupid (think: DaFarce-Is-Us Russell), I believe that those who are willing to take a gamble and not shrink away from it are the ones who wind up champions and winners more often that those who are too concerned about not F-ing up and wind up playing it TOO safe.

    Of course, had that ball been incomplete, Eli would have looked like a fool for throwing it; had it been intercepted, he would have looked like the village idiot and there would have been calls to have him drawn and quartered! I think one has to applaud his courage. He knew he needed to make something big happen so he took the shot.

    Another good example is Brett Favre. Look at how many picks he threw on the way to a HOF career. And some might remember, Joe Namath threw a lot of picks too. The winners circle is no place for punks!

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