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Rodney Harrison says criticism of Brady isn’t fair

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The guy who caught more than his fair share of criticism after the Patriots’ last Super Bowl loss has taken up for the Patriot who is receiving plenty of flak this time around.

Former New England safety Rodney Harrison, now with NBC’s Football Night in America, said on Tuesday’s Dan Patrick Show that it wouldn’t be right to point a finger at quarterback Tom Brady.

I don’t think it’s fair,” Harrison said, via NFL.com.  “I think it ultimately comes down to ‘team.’  A lot of times, quarterbacks, as well as coaches, they get too much credit sometimes.  But I don’t think Tom should take the heat.  He had opportunities to make some plays, and he did.  Some guys dropped some balls, that’s all part of football.  They had opportunities.

“But I think it’s just the media’s way of saying, ‘Finally, we get a chance to say something negative about him. Finally, we get a chance to torch him.’”

That said, Brady wasn’t the same guy late in the game that he was while completing 16 straight passes, a Super Bowl record.  It apparently happened after Giants defensive end Justin Tuck drove Brady’s left shoulder into the turf on a second-half sack.  After that, Brady seemed to lose some of his accuracy, as demonstrated by the badly underthrown deep ball to Rob Gronkowski, a pass that was behind Deion Branch, and the notorious Wes Welker drop, which was the direct result of a ball for which Welker had to lunge, leap, and lay out to even get his hands on it.  With a better throw from Brady in that moment, the Patriots would have painted the town red — and white and blue — on Tuesday.

The reality is that, in any close, hard-fought game, the team that lost can point to a handful of moments that could have nudged the pendulum the other way.  Three times the Giants put the ball on the ground.  Once, the Pats had one too many men on the field.  Another time, six — yes, six — Patriots were in the vicinity of Hakeem Nicks, and the ball bounced away from all of them after Nicks dropped it.  The third time, a fumble by Ahmad Bradshaw caromed off the helmet of James Ihedigbo.

Still, Brady was responsible for two close calls that could have given the Pats the win:  the misfire to Gronkowski and the throw that required Welker to display the skills of an Olympic gymnast.  Though it’s not fair to blame him for all of the other things that went wrong, it’s definitely fair to say that Brady failed to deliver on both of two chances to place himself on the Mt. Rushmore of quarterbacks.

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  1. cmack21 says: Feb 7, 2012 7:53 PM

    Is it just me or all these lame spygate Patriots all the same?

  2. zeapelido says: Feb 7, 2012 7:54 PM

    life isn’t fair.

  3. phillyphever says: Feb 7, 2012 7:54 PM

    “Though it’s not fair to blame him for all of the other things that went wrong, it’s definitely fair to say that Brady failed to deliver on both of two chances to place himself on the Mt. Rushmore of quarterbacks.”

    At this point, he might as well forget about getting on that mountain. Top 5-10? Yes. Top 4? Nope. Montana, Graham, Unitas and Starr still reign on top of the mountain.

  4. eaglesnoles05 says: Feb 7, 2012 7:58 PM

    I knew the how-bad-is brady and how -good-is eli talk would be loud and long and horrible to stomach. And it is. And it’s only tuesday after the superbowl. Killing me.

  5. whereismycomment says: Feb 7, 2012 7:58 PM

    I don’t think Brady is done yet. He is not Joe Montana, but playing in 5 Super Bowls is an amazing feat.

    AFC is still weak. Add better WR (Wayne or Colston)and few additions to the secondary, they will be back to SuperBowl again.

  6. whodeydaytonchapter says: Feb 7, 2012 7:58 PM

    I have had about enough of Rodney Harrison and his personal agenda. Can someone get him off TV already?

  7. 2sausage11 says: Feb 7, 2012 8:00 PM

    It was a close game could have gone either way. That said it was a team that lost not 1 guy or 1 play

  8. rexismybff says: Feb 7, 2012 8:02 PM

    Rodney Harrison criticized Flacco in the USA Today after the Pats beat the Ravens on a Lee Evans’ TD drop at the end of the game:

    “But if Joe Flacco had hit even one of the deep balls open to him in the AFC title game, we’d be talking about Baltimore right now.”

    Flacco put the game winning ball right into the hands of his receiver, and it’s OK to criticize Flacco. But it’s not OK to criticize Harrison’s former teammate, Tom Brady?

    Can’t have it both ways, Rodney.

  9. duanethomas says: Feb 7, 2012 8:03 PM

    That’s unbiased also, Rodney has no horse in that race. Brady can get critized and its only right. Look at his playoff record and passing rating since the 07 SuperBowl. Its all trending down. Brady. Kraft. Belichick. They will never win a SuperBowl together again. The window is closed for them.

  10. howmanyringsyourteamgot says: Feb 7, 2012 8:05 PM

    He can’t be serious, this is the same guy who gets on national tv every Sunday and rips QBs but now he wants to pull a T.O. “that’s my QB”

  11. waccoforflacco says: Feb 7, 2012 8:06 PM

    Didn’t Joe Flacco throw a perfect pass to Lee Evans that for all intents and purposes should have put the Ravens in the Superbowl instead of the LUCKY Patriots?

    I didn’t hear a peep from Rodney Harrison bringing up that point EVER leading up to the game. Of course he’s a former Patriot and a huge HOMER.

    Just like Bill Cowher is always praising and openly rooting for the Stoolers.

  12. dionoil says: Feb 7, 2012 8:09 PM

    Fact is, Brady didn’t win the game, so he’ll get criticized. But he most certainly didn’t lose it either.

  13. atlien698 says: Feb 7, 2012 8:09 PM

    Let’s not forget about the intentional grounding. those two points were also a big difference in the game.

  14. dubaradhandi says: Feb 7, 2012 8:11 PM

    2 time SB MVP, 1 time unanimous MVP, 16-0, 3 rings, 2 SB appearance, most td pass in playoff, most yard for season, most td for a QB, 12 year body of work in NFL goes on and on. What he has done with limited talent is unbelievable. Give him NYG roaster he will never lose a game. Tell me which other QB performed at this level when they are 34 and multiple surgery. Haters keep hating. Pats will be in playoff every year no matter what.

  15. palinforpresidentofnorthkorea says: Feb 7, 2012 8:12 PM

    “I think it ultimately comes down to ‘team.’ A lot of times, quarterbacks, as well as coaches, they get too much credit sometimes.”

    Rodney, Rodney, Rodney, I call BS you whiner.

    During the halftime “report” you were praising Saint Thomas and BB the Dark Lord not the “team”. You kept interrupting Dungy to give him $hit about Eli.

  16. kwoodc says: Feb 7, 2012 8:13 PM

    I love hoe everyone thinks Brady is a bum and lost his chance at a legacy or being on the “Mount Rushmore” of QB’S. Hes played in 5 of the last 10 and has a great shot to go to atleast 1 more…4-2 in the Super Bowl would sound pretty good…

  17. tritz32 says: Feb 7, 2012 8:15 PM

    I know in years past this was more laughed at than being looked at serious, but at what point does ESPN/NFL starting bringing up the fact the Pats haven’t won ISH since Spygate?!?

    I didn’t see too much into it at first but lately it seems to me there may be something there. Don’t look so genius when you can’t tape the other teams practice do you Billy Boy?!?

  18. synabar says: Feb 7, 2012 8:17 PM

    The Patriots cant win without cheating.
    Post Spygate… o-2
    hahaha

  19. blacknole08 says: Feb 7, 2012 8:17 PM

    I don’t Brady deserves all the flak that he’s getting. In fact, they had the lead in both SB losses; he even led them back in SB 42. It’s not his fault that the defense had Lebron’s syndrome.

  20. patsfiend says: Feb 7, 2012 8:18 PM

    Every single team outside of the Giants, Packers, Saints, and maybe the Lions or Steelers, would line up to take Brady over the guy they have now. Getting to 5 SB’s in 10 years of playing is pretty special, IMO. With a few different bounces he could be 4-1 (or 1-4) but he’s made it there over a period where the Colts, Steelers, and Ravens have been so strong.

    They had lousy field position, he made a couple mistakes, and the defense couldn’t stop the Giants when it counted most, when given a lead. It’s a team game, and I, for one, am pretty happy to have Brady leading the team. On top of being a great QB, he sets the tone, and has been a class act all around. We are lucky as heck to have him, and I’m already looking forward to next year!

    Well under the cap, 4 picks in the 1st two rounds… 15-4 and a SB appearance in a “transition” year… not bad.

  21. flash1283 says: Feb 7, 2012 8:20 PM

    duanethomas says:
    Feb 7, 2012 8:03 PM
    That’s unbiased also, Rodney has no horse in that race. Brady can get critized and its only right. Look at his playoff record and passing rating since the 07 SuperBowl. Its all trending down. Brady. Kraft. Belichick. They will never win a SuperBowl together again. The window is closed for them.

     —
    The team just played in the SB and now the “window is closed”.

    Lame!!

  22. j0esixpack says: Feb 7, 2012 8:25 PM

    The Patriots were one completion away from winning

    It doesn’t matter if you want to give credit or blame for that to the QB, WRs, RBs, OL, TEs or Defense

    The reality is, they all depend on each other to get the job done

    For good or bad, the Patriots win or lose as a team – that’s what got a team made up largely of spare parts to 13-3 and the Super Bowl

    That’s what has gotten them to the Super Bowl for 5 out of the last 10 years

  23. nyjetssuck says: Feb 7, 2012 8:31 PM

    Maybe Junior Seau and Randy Moss can come out of retirement so they can go back and win another Superbowl…lol

  24. sweetzinger says: Feb 7, 2012 8:36 PM

    Tom Brady is limited talent. Pats wouldn’t even have made the playoffs if they played in the NFC. Honestly, 13-3 and they didn’t even beat a team with a winning record. Beat the Broncos (ya, those Broncos), and they beat the Ravens (who lost that game, Patriots didn’t win it). Lost to a 9-7 team. A 9-7 team that won the Superbowl, not because they played great, but because they didn’t make any mistakes (the Bill Parcells game theory).

    Tom Brady played the worse on a team that played bad against a team that didn’t play very good either.

    One great athletic play (Manningham’s catch) the whole game.

  25. righthereisay says: Feb 7, 2012 8:39 PM

    Also give credit to that linebacker who was 50 yards down field to intercept the ball.

  26. electstat says: Feb 7, 2012 8:42 PM

    Give me a break. Rodney said earlier in the week that he would rather have Eli over Brady in the clutch. Maybe that’s his way of justifying him being a MAJOR reason they lost to the Giants the first time. This guy is a joke on tv, no question.

    And I don’t know why there is even surprise the Pats lost. They beat only one team with a winning record the entire season, including the playoffs. And now they are in the discussion to be champs next season?

  27. hobbstweedle says: Feb 7, 2012 8:43 PM

    I couldn’t give a rip LESS about Tom Brady or the Patriots, for that matter (Go Pack go!). If I never heard or read another thing about them, it would be too soon. But these criticisms of Brady are just too much too much to take. Brady is a great QB, and played a game well enough to win. You’re a Patriots fan? Well, grow up – you got beat by a better team. At least on that day. Sack up and get ready for next year.

  28. lolb23 says: Feb 7, 2012 8:44 PM

    If losing 2 SB’s makes Tom Brady some kind of loser, what does that make all the common folk hating on him?

  29. dubaradhandi says: Feb 7, 2012 8:48 PM

    For haters who are saying they never win anything…..post spy gate that is after 2007 what’s your teams winning %. They are better than 31 other team.

  30. hannahsdaddy says: Feb 7, 2012 8:51 PM

    Just a week ago, this punk was blaming his cornerback with blowing the coverage on David Tyree.

  31. truthfactory says: Feb 7, 2012 8:56 PM

    Well he got too much credit when they were winning Super Bowls too. Everyone forgets that Brady was more of a game manager when he won his 3 Superbowls. Only over the past 5 years has he been putting up great numbers.

    His defense has held opponents to 16 ppg average in his playoff wins, and 22 ppg in playoff losses.

    Same thing with Eli: 15 ppg allowed in playoff wins, 22 ppg in playoff losses.

    Same thing with Peyton: 17 ppg allowed in playoff wins, 23 ppg in playoff losses

    The key to being a “Clutch” QB is getting on a team that plays great defense in the postseason more often than the other guys’ defense.

    QB’s get too much credit and blame for postseason success or failures

  32. skinsrock says: Feb 7, 2012 8:56 PM

    And I guess Lee Evans should get a pass too? … They had a play… one play to get it done… pass was a lil off, catch was off… Who’s fault was it? Forget the rest of the game… This is where we as an audience were & if you were a Giants fan… You were sweatin’ big time.

  33. kelvinmchale says: Feb 7, 2012 8:57 PM

    SpyGate Haters listen up: The Patriots made it to three Super Bowls pre-SpyGate. They’ve made it to two Super Bowls post-SpyGate, losing both by a total of seven points and were winning both until the final minutes. Brady won two league MVPs and set NFL passing records post-SpyGate. No team has won more regular season or playoff games post-SpyGate. So I ask you, what exactly is your point? Are they supposed to win every single Super Bowl they play in?

  34. insertrandomletters says: Feb 7, 2012 8:59 PM

    It’s not Tom Brady’s fault.

    The universe has a way of correcting itself, and although the Patriots could have won, the powers that be said Ochocinco can’t have a championship ring.

  35. gacoltfan says: Feb 7, 2012 9:04 PM

    Funny how all the Patriot fans say they “lose as a team”, but when they win it’s all Brady.

    Everyone wants to criticize Peyton for his playoff record, and compare it to Brady’s. When they won 3 SB’s, they had a dominant defense, not a powerful offense. Since those SB’s the defense has become average to below average, basically what Peyton has had his entire career, and Brady’s record is worse.

  36. melikefootball says: Feb 7, 2012 9:09 PM

    Rodney is always on his high horse. Oh how nice it would be to get him and the other three on Sunday Night Football off the air. Between Harrison one side to Pats, the preacher on the Colts and Patrick thinks he is a comedian along Costas on his last leg. Brady was the QB that did not get it done and even though his wife thought Tommy wasn’t the problem he still has to take the blame. After all his coach gave him the ball by allowing the TD.

  37. ravenator says: Feb 7, 2012 9:09 PM

    It’s not Tom Brady’s fault, but it is Joe Flacco’s fault. I completely understand Harrison. Seriously, you get paid for this garbage? Your analysis is quite pitiful and I’m not quite sure there’s anyone more bias than you are. You certainly give Boomer a run for his money. Simply pathetic on the part of Harrison.

  38. truthfactory says: Feb 7, 2012 9:09 PM

    kelvinmchale says:
    Feb 7, 2012 8:57 PM
    SpyGate Haters listen up: The Patriots made it to three Super Bowls pre-SpyGate. They’ve made it to two Super Bowls post-SpyGate, losing both by a total of seven points and were winning both until the final minutes. Brady won two league MVPs and set NFL passing records post-SpyGate. No team has won more regular season or playoff games post-SpyGate. So I ask you, what exactly is your point? Are they supposed to win every single Super Bowl they play in?
    ————————-

    Now you listen up. During spygate, they were 12-1 in postseason, winning many of those games by 3 points.

    Since spygate, they are 4-4 in post-season. The benefit of spygate was thought to be a 2nd half benefit where the team could review the signals at halftime, and make adjustments in 2nd half. Maybe that’s why they were so successful.

    Now without it, they are on the same playingfield and struggle in the post-season just like everyone else.

    You can’t cheat and get caught, then claim the cheating didn’t help you… Why would I cheat on a test if I knew the answers? Why risk it?

  39. 6ball says: Feb 7, 2012 9:12 PM

    .

    Being fair, Justin Tuck is a big man and put a serious hit on Brady. It’s hard to imagine that it had no effect on Brady.

    .

  40. tweeter75 says: Feb 7, 2012 9:28 PM

    I got two words for you Rodney….David Tyree.

  41. marima07 says: Feb 7, 2012 9:31 PM

    Funny how suddenly no one remembers the “horrendous” Patriots’ secondary while hoisting Eli on their shoulders to carry him to Canton.

    Congrats to the Giants, but Eli and Tom weren’t playing each other out there. The Giants clearly had the better team – defense and receivers – and Brady and the Patriots needed a close-to-perfect game to beat them. They kept it close but couldn’t seal the deal.

    Brady carried a flawed team to the Super Bowl, and I for one appreciate it.

  42. nfl1818 says: Feb 7, 2012 9:36 PM

    “SpyGate Haters listen up: The Patriots made it to three Super Bowls pre-SpyGate. They’ve made it to two Super Bowls post-SpyGate, losing both by a total of seven points and were winning both until the final minutes. Brady won two league MVPs and set NFL passing records post-SpyGate. No team has won more regular season or playoff games post-SpyGate. So I ask you, what exactly is your point? Are they supposed to win every single Super Bowl they play in?”

    can we just put this comment on auto-insert in every discussion “they havent won anything . . . blah, blah, blah” = honestly if we all had the success they’ve had, we’d all have millions, a 2nd and 3rd home, etc.

  43. kibblesnvick says: Feb 7, 2012 9:36 PM

    Nobody said life was fair, Rodney.

  44. TheWizard says: Feb 7, 2012 9:52 PM

    No team has won more regular season or playoff games post-SpyGate. So I ask you, what exactly is your point

    Can’t fix stupid.

    Let them rejoice that the Pats are the 2nd best team in football.

  45. steelcurtainn says: Feb 7, 2012 9:56 PM

    Criticism is always fair when you lose. You should know about that Rodney.

  46. busterdog1 says: Feb 7, 2012 9:59 PM

    Come on anybody could have won that game you can’t blame anybody but the team. People are going to drop balls and people are going to miss a block. It is pass patterns, blocking schemes and different reads. Same goes on defense. It was one pass here and block there.

  47. chains33 says: Feb 7, 2012 10:06 PM

    Does anyone else hope that next year the twit that wrote this article moves on to cover the Australian swim team rather than force us to read these pathetically written stories? This doucher is the worst writer in all of sports.

  48. Hello. Is that you James? says: Feb 7, 2012 10:06 PM

    The guy completed 16 passes in a row and if Welker would’ve caught the pass, none of this talk would’ve been happening. Sure that Gronkowski pass was bad, but if that pass to Branch wasn’t behind him like it was, it would’ve been picked off!

  49. themokoda says: Feb 7, 2012 10:06 PM

    I strongly disagree that if Welker had caught “that” pass, New England would definitely have won. I don’t think it’s that automatic. Every big play, good or bad, that happens during a game changes the way BOTH teams play from that point on. Granted, in all likelihood the Pats would have won had Welker scored, but I don’t think it’s a lock to look backward and say that with so much certainty.

  50. afc22 says: Feb 7, 2012 10:08 PM

    it’s all hands on deck for the Patriot apologists. Harrison rips Flacco (and many others) whenever he feels like it.

    Go read Peter King’s article and you barely get any critical commentary of the Pats. No discussion of how Brady completed 2 of his last 10 passes….terrible throws to Gronkowski, Welker, Branch twice. His deep heave was the second game in a row he stupidly launched a bomb and didn’t get enough on it

    then there’s the opposite end of the spectrum with papers like the Globe shredding Brady beyond what he deserves. No wonder Boston fans are so needy and insecure

  51. tigerlilac says: Feb 7, 2012 10:12 PM

    Brady doesn’t need me to defend him but:

    He has been remarkably consistent in regular season and super bowls – - completion %, 64% (RS) and 62% (SB); passing yards per game, 250 YPG (RS) and 240 YPG (SB); TD/Interceptions, 2.6 (RS) and 1.9 (SB).

    In 10 years as a starter he has gone to 5 SBs and won 3. He has 2 SB MVPs. He has the most completions in SB history and the most single game consecutive completions in a SB.

    He has the most consecutive wins (10) in post season history and the highest completion % in any playoff game (93%).

  52. nfl1818 says: Feb 7, 2012 10:19 PM

    “Now you listen up. During spygate, they were 12-1 in postseason, winning many of those games by 3 points.

    Since spygate, they are 4-4 in post-season. The benefit of spygate was thought to be a 2nd half benefit where the team could review the signals at halftime, and make adjustments in 2nd half. Maybe that’s why they were so successful.”

    I think a few legends on D retired. 4-4 with flawed squads in transition. Inches from 6-2. Regular season stats prob a more valid statistical sample.

  53. kelvinmchale says: Feb 7, 2012 10:25 PM

    Truthfactory: So let’s think this through. The Patriots taped the opposing team’s defensive signals in the 1st half, then during a TWELVE MINUTE halftime break they scoured 90 minutes worth of gameplay, matched the signals to the plays on the field, and then relayed this to the offensive players so they’d be ready for those calls in the 2nd half, just in case those exact same scenarios came up again? Have you really thought this through? Did the Patriots have a cast of thousands working on this at every game, home and away? Why do you think the defensive coordinators use signals in the first place? Why do all offensive coordinators cover their mouths when talking on the sidelines, still to this day? You think about that.

  54. pizzon says: Feb 7, 2012 10:59 PM

    coulda woulda shoulda just shutup with all the finger pointing. bottomline is Brady didnt throw the passes to gronkowski, branch, or welker with any accuracy so the blame has to start and end at his feet. he isnt the sacred cow that people make him out to be otherwise he would be 5-0 in the superbowl. he isnt and never will be Bradshaw or Montana when it comes to the superbowl. those 2 raised their level of play on the big stage and didnt make mistakes when it counted most. actually id fragile brady was a true leader he would have already owned some of the blame for the loss but instead his dumb wife shoots off here mouth about how terrible his recievers are.

  55. latopia says: Feb 7, 2012 11:14 PM

    It apparently happened after Giants defensive end Justin Tuck drove Brady’s left shoulder into the turf on a second-half sack.

    Could mean nothing. Could explain a lot.

    Including the body language of a concussion rather than Brady simply agonizing (head in hands) over a loss. And his post-game comments about Welker’s “drop” were so generic that I wonder if he actually remembered the play.

  56. kindbass says: Feb 7, 2012 11:17 PM

    phillyphever says:
    Feb 7, 2012 7:54 PM

    At this point, he might as well forget about getting on that mountain. Top 5-10? Yes. Top 4? Nope. Montana, Graham, Unitas and Starr still reign on top of the mountain.
    —————————————————-
    You honestly think that Otto Graham, Johnny Unitas, and Bart Starr (3 guys I can guarantee you’ve never seen play) are better than Tom Brady? Ok, buddy.

  57. bspurloc says: Feb 7, 2012 11:34 PM

    .
    jizelle says it wasnt his fault though.

    You also seem to be another one of those people that cant accept the ball to branch was tipped not only tipped by one player by possibly by another.

  58. cityofchampyinz says: Feb 7, 2012 11:40 PM

    Boooo whooooo cheaters

  59. throwntothelions says: Feb 7, 2012 11:52 PM

    Kevinmchale: Think this through also.

    1) they didn’t have 90 minutes of tape to watch as a half is only 30 minutes to start with.

    2) You still wouldn’t have 30 minutes of tape to watch as I an sure in that 30 minutes the Patriots had the ball for a few offensive plays to cut into it.

    3) If you were going to do it wouldn’t you process the film as it became available rather then waiting till half time.

  60. bigdaddydooko says: Feb 8, 2012 12:04 AM

    I get so tired of this after every Super Bowl. All the focus is on why the team, that lost, lost the game. The reason is simple: two teams play, one team wins, one team loses. Usually the team that plays better wins.

  61. purplengold says: Feb 8, 2012 12:05 AM

    Give credit to the Giants D.

  62. bospat says: Feb 8, 2012 12:17 AM

    Ha,ha only Brady and Rogers have faced a tough defense in the last 6 SB…Otherwise Colts against Bears.. please, Pitt wins over Seattle and Arizona? LOL and Brees over the Colts Defense….pathetic…stack’em all up and Brady faced arguably the toughest legit team in his two losses…

  63. swagger52 says: Feb 8, 2012 12:27 AM

    I want to see the stat..

    First down after greater than a 3rd and 10 handed to Brady by the Refs by way of illegal contact penalty. I know in Ravens games he has gotten a bunch of critical calls. Just as a few plays here are there makes a difference in a close game, so do a couple of ref calls. Like Coughlin said, we could move the ball but couldn’t stop the key penalties against us.

    The reason why Brady receives so much animosity versus Farve, or Manning, or Breeze is because he wins games by either spygate or the refs. No team fears Brady like they do Aaron Rogers – especially now. He throws a deep ball like Sanchez. Yet despite all that, the rest of the league is just fed up with the ridiculous homage to Brady.
    He simply is not that great. The reason the Patriots were in the Superbowl at all was Gronkowski, Welker and the play of their Offensive and Defensive Lines – especially the Oline.

  64. jamarcuslives says: Feb 8, 2012 12:45 AM

    truthfactory says:
    Feb 7, 2012 8:56 PM
    Well he got too much credit when they were winning Super Bowls too. Everyone forgets that Brady was more of a game manager when he won his 3 Superbowls. Only over the past 5 years has he been putting up great numbers.

    His defense has held opponents to 16 ppg average in his playoff wins, and 22 ppg in playoff losses.

    Same thing with Eli: 15 ppg allowed in playoff wins, 22 ppg in playoff losses.

    Same thing with Peyton: 17 ppg allowed in playoff wins, 23 ppg in playoff losses

    The key to being a “Clutch” QB is getting on a team that plays great defense in the postseason more often than the other guys’ defense.

    QB’s get too much credit and blame for postseason success
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    Post of the year!

  65. msclemons67 says: Feb 8, 2012 1:44 AM

    Brady had a crappy game against a mediocre defense. Of course he deserves criticism. The Patriots entire offense deserves criticism. They only managed 17 points against a team that gave up 400 points during the season. That is bad offense.

  66. pongonfl says: Feb 8, 2012 1:55 AM

    Brady deserves allot of credit for being fantastic at situational football.
    The situation he usually found himself in when he was winning super bowls was great field position and extra possessions because the pats defense were allowed to commit PI to generate turn overs.

    Outside of that situation he has shown that he can manage an offence very well. He reads offenses very well, throws short passes very well. But. He has shown that when an important game depends on him, he will fail.

    That’s who he is. The early superbowls never depended on him.

  67. sj39 says: Feb 8, 2012 8:12 AM

    Yeah, well it’s not fair to cheat either.

  68. gmsingh says: Feb 8, 2012 8:17 AM

    Brady played fine. Eli’s game was nearly flawless. Not much else to say.

  69. bullcharger says: Feb 8, 2012 8:47 AM

    I don’t get it. The Patriots weren’t better than the Giants. It was an evenly matched game that either team could have won and it came down to the end. The Giants made all the plays. Covering their fumbles, intercepting Brady, and the big play to Manningham. The Patriots tried to turn the tide and almost did at 17-9, but it wasn’t enough.

    Tom Brady brought a team with the 31st rank defense to the Super Bowl after a 13-3 season going on a 10 game winning streak. Going into the game I don’t think anyone would have thought Brady would break a consecutive completion record with that Giants D-line. Anyone who wants to blame Brady or Welker or anyone else can go ahead, but the Patriots over acheived as it is and with Gronk (arguably their best player) hurt they really played a great game considering. It could have been a blowout for the Giants if the Patriots D didn’t play so well.

  70. tigerlilac says: Feb 8, 2012 9:19 AM

    kindbass says:
    Feb 7, 2012 11:17 PM
    phillyphever says:
    Feb 7, 2012 7:54 PM

    At this point, he might as well forget about getting on that mountain. Top 5-10? Yes. Top 4? Nope. Montana, Graham, Unitas and Starr still reign on top of the mountain.
    —————————————————-
    You honestly think that Otto Graham, Johnny Unitas, and Bart Starr (3 guys I can guarantee you’ve never seen play) are better than Tom Brady? Ok, buddy.

    Great post!

  71. tigerlilac says: Feb 8, 2012 9:25 AM

    It was a great season of football. Teams that were suppose to win faltered and the Giants picked themselves up off the mat to make the playoffs and win the Super Bowl.

    Some guys can appreciate a great season and the gladiators that play a very difficult game. Other guys need to tear players and teams down. Be a man. Don’t be that “other guy”.

  72. bozosforall says: Feb 8, 2012 9:32 AM

    throwntothelions says:
    Feb 7, 2012 11:52 PM
    Kevinmchale: Think this through also.

    1) they didn’t have 90 minutes of tape to watch as a half is only 30 minutes to start with.

    2) You still wouldn’t have 30 minutes of tape to watch as I an sure in that 30 minutes the Patriots had the ball for a few offensive plays to cut into it.

    3) If you were going to do it wouldn’t you process the film as it became available rather then waiting till half time.
    ___
    kelvin mcWAIL….OWNED

  73. richwizl says: Feb 8, 2012 9:50 AM

    Brady’s biggest mistake was his first pass downfield, called intentional grounding, resulting in a Safety. He had plenty of time to throw it away near the sidelines. That was an un characteristic mistake that put undo pressure on the Defense and put the Pats in an immediate hole. Take away that play and the Pats probably win the game.

  74. lichnor says: Feb 8, 2012 10:02 AM

    The funny thing is, if the Patriots* had won the game do you think there would be a single soul out there saying, “You know, it’s not fair Brady gets all this credit.”

  75. football20122 says: Feb 8, 2012 10:06 AM

    I love me some Brady one great QB’s to watch play…He cant throw the fword ball and catch it to….Best words spoken that day!!!!!

  76. dw394 says: Feb 8, 2012 10:07 AM

    I know one thing is for sure. Brady is no Joe!!!!

  77. mjdkid100 says: Feb 8, 2012 10:29 AM

    bozosforall says:
    Feb 8, 2012 9:32 AM
    throwntothelions says:
    Feb 7, 2012 11:52 PM
    Kevinmchale: Think this through also.

    1) they didn’t have 90 minutes of tape to watch as a half is only 30 minutes to start with.

    2) You still wouldn’t have 30 minutes of tape to watch as I an sure in that 30 minutes the Patriots had the ball for a few offensive plays to cut into it.

    3) If you were going to do it wouldn’t you process the film as it became available rather then waiting till half time.
    ___
    kelvin mcWAIL….OWNED

     —————————————————————-

    Nah not owned.

    1) Matt Walsh blatantly stated the tapes never left his possession(no reason to lie in his interview with the league as he had immunity)

    2) They would have to use tons of tapes in the same game in order to do this real time, which didn’t happen as we got to watch tapes of Full games of what was created(love the part where Herm Edwards waves to the camera)

    3) Avg possession in a half, 10-20 minutes, someone would have to watch the entire play, account for blocking scheme, receivers routes, audibles, and decode the multiple signals sent in at the same time. (they dont send signal 1 at a time, that’d be stupid since people have tried to steal signs forever in all sports)

    4) multiple coaches admitted the practice. (Jimmy Johnson, etc)

    Don’t let any facts get in your way. There’s a reason the memo was sent to the entire league and the patriots not just immediately fined. The fact there record is better post spy gate while revamping an entire roster speaks to your stupidity. The playoff losses are attributable to scheme and flawed teams.

    5)

  78. gator2006 says: Feb 8, 2012 11:11 AM

    How can you say the window is closed for the Pats when they just barely lost the SB? People love to proclaim people are washing up well before the indeed wash up. (Pats hater here, except for the Gators onboard).

  79. stew48 says: Feb 8, 2012 11:12 AM

    OK, here we go. First, I am a 50 year Steeler fan, so, I know nothing. Second, I’ve watched NFL live and TV all those years, this to confirm I know nothing. Third, while he is an excellent coach, I have no time for Belli…. Lastly, I just want to comment and see it in print.

    I have seen a picture (photo, image) of the Manningham catch that was snapped with the ball inches from his fingers with a Patriot hand already on his shoulder. Thus, catch or no catch, there was definitely interference. (not called).

    Next, regarding Brady. Anyone with at least a pea brain knows he is excellent. The best ever is a joke. Once his fabulous protection breaks down or is not perfect, he becomes subject to all the problems any quarterback faces. i.g. the safety was a bad moment. After pressure increased, his passes were not like the perfect TD throw against the ONE man rush.

    To the qb rater, sorry, it is Unitas, Graham, Montana and whoever after them.

    Finally, Collingsworth made a blunder of huge proportions when he criticized a WR for “fading” on his routes to cause completions out of bounds. They showed a head-on re-run that proved conclusively that he “faded” only to be able to catch the pass, a qb problem.

    Thanks for reading.

  80. stew48 says: Feb 8, 2012 11:17 AM

    Oops, I forgot my lesson for today. It is my thinking that the hardest pass to catch is one thrown behind a receiver crossing the field. They simply can’t (mentally) reach back far enough to account for their progress past the ball, and the reaching across their body backwards just makes it even harder. Those catches are probably harder than the beautiful Manningham-types.

  81. blahblahblah1313 says: Feb 8, 2012 11:43 AM

    I guess the obvious question for all the Pats apologists is…If the Spygate cheating did not help why did they bother doing it? When Brady wins a SB by actually leading his team to a TD and not depending on Vinatieri to kick a 48/42 yd FG to win a pre Spygate SB then we’ll talk Montana etc. OK. Look at his stats in the wins. the only one that was anything special was Carolina. What did he have against the Rams 145 yds. Yeah that’s Montanaesque. Or at least Gisele would think so. Stick to looking pretty and keep the mouth shut except in bed.

  82. topweasel says: Feb 8, 2012 1:05 PM

    I guess the obvious question for all the Pats apologists is…If the Spygate cheating did not help why did they bother doing it? When Brady wins a SB by actually leading his team to a TD and not depending on Vinatieri to kick a 48/42 yd FG to win a pre Spygate SB then we’ll talk Montana etc. OK. Look at his stats in the wins. the only one that was anything special was Carolina. What did he have against the Rams 145 yds. Yeah that’s Montanaesque. Or at least Gisele would think so. Stick to looking pretty and keep the mouth shut except in bed.
    __________________________________

    You mean like Super Bowl 16 where Montana only completes 14 passes for 157 yards and 1 TD?

  83. blahblahblah1313 says: Feb 8, 2012 1:35 PM

    Actually 157 is more than 145. I think. And back then there was no “Brady Rule” forbiding hitting the QB. And no safeties because you are afraid to get hit or too immobile to get out of the pocket. And I seem to remember a TD pass to some guy named John Taylor in another. Not wimping out and letting the keeker (twice) do the hard work. Because if you don’t think a 40+ yd FG with the SB on the line is tough ask S Norwood.

  84. blahblahblah1313 says: Feb 8, 2012 1:38 PM

    And as I remember the 157 yard game was a win.

  85. beeronthefridge says: Feb 8, 2012 2:15 PM

    I have no respect for rodney and his comments.

    After all, he was nothing more than a cheap shot artist that only succeeded when he had the other team’s stolen plays.

  86. topweasel says: Feb 8, 2012 4:37 PM

    So was the 145 yard game.

  87. bozosforall says: Feb 8, 2012 4:49 PM

    mjdkid100 says:
    Feb 8, 2012 10:29 AM
    bozosforall says:
    Feb 8, 2012 9:32 AM
    throwntothelions says:
    Feb 7, 2012 11:52 PM
    Kevinmchale: Think this through also.

    1) they didn’t have 90 minutes of tape to watch as a half is only 30 minutes to start with.

    2) You still wouldn’t have 30 minutes of tape to watch as I an sure in that 30 minutes the Patriots had the ball for a few offensive plays to cut into it.

    3) If you were going to do it wouldn’t you process the film as it became available rather then waiting till half time.
    ___
    kelvin mcWAIL….OWNED

    —————————————————————-

    Nah not owned.

    1) Matt Walsh blatantly stated the tapes never left his possession(no reason to lie in his interview with the league as he had immunity)

    2) They would have to use tons of tapes in the same game in order to do this real time, which didn’t happen as we got to watch tapes of Full games of what was created(love the part where Herm Edwards waves to the camera)

    3) Avg possession in a half, 10-20 minutes, someone would have to watch the entire play, account for blocking scheme, receivers routes, audibles, and decode the multiple signals sent in at the same time. (they dont send signal 1 at a time, that’d be stupid since people have tried to steal signs forever in all sports)

    4) multiple coaches admitted the practice. (Jimmy Johnson, etc)

    Don’t let any facts get in your way. There’s a reason the memo was sent to the entire league and the patriots not just immediately fined. The fact there record is better post spy gate while revamping an entire roster speaks to your stupidity. The playoff losses are attributable to scheme and flawed teams.

    __
    The only stupid ass here is you, “kid”. The Pats’ POST SEASON record is all that matters…not their creampuff regular season schedule results. And that postseason record SUCKS…just like you do.

    kelvinmcwail AND bj kid OWNED

  88. bozosforall says: Feb 8, 2012 6:27 PM

    blahblahblah1313 says:
    Feb 8, 2012 11:43 AM
    I guess the obvious question for all the Pats apologists is…If the Spygate cheating did not help why did they bother doing it? When Brady wins a SB by actually leading his team to a TD and not depending on Vinatieri to kick a 48/42 yd FG to win a pre Spygate SB then we’ll talk Montana etc. OK. Look at his stats in the wins. the only one that was anything special was Carolina.
    __
    And Jake Delhomme STILL outplayed him.

  89. kelvinmchale says: Feb 8, 2012 7:57 PM

    So not only does Brady have to win all FIVE Super Bowls he played in, but he has to have record breaking stats in them, too. Bear in mind, Montana had a cream puff division for a decade. They even had one fewer team in that division compared to the rest of the divisions (look it up.) Also, Montana played before free agency, so he had the same core talent around him for years. Picture Brady with Moss for 10 years, or not having to lose Branch or Givens to free agency immediately following back to back championships. Finally, the 49ers cheated the salary cap and got busted! Look that up too, BOZO!

  90. damnyankee13 says: Feb 9, 2012 6:30 PM

    Yall make me laugh. The patsies lost. It was a good game. Yall can say that if walker had caught that catch yall would have won. I dont believe it as the catch changes everything. Nothing in life is definate cept death and taxes.. I’m not saying yall would have still lost, if he caught it, I dont know.I believe that throw was a lil off and walker didnt get his hands on the meat of the ball..
    Now for Gronk, he had a fine year. then got hurt. His ankle. Dont understand high ankle injuries but he couldnt move well on the field. But he sure as hell moved well on the dance floor!.Hmmmm, I thot he got paid to play football, not dance. hmmmm
    So how hurt was he?
    And, I dont remember seeing 1 grats from a pats fan. hmmmmmmmm

  91. alaskapepper says: Feb 9, 2012 8:25 PM

    Brady is one of the best tacticians to play the game. Certainly the QB gets alot of credit in any win. But so does the team. Listen… football is won in the trenches. On the line. There were scores of missed assignments Sunday night. Missed blocks…. missed tackles… Blame? It should for the most part go to the guys who are up front. That is where the game is won… or lost. Its all about fundamentals. Most assume that whatever happens up front is just action that goes on in support of the backfield. Actually, its what allows the backfield to function. Without it, you loose regardless of well you can run or throw or catch.

  92. alaskapepper says: Feb 9, 2012 8:35 PM

    By the way… Brady is not perfect. No one is. The team lost. The team. The Giants were better on Sunday Night. The Giants team won. Every one of them. Maybe Eli and Brady will both welcome each other into the HOF. Either way, they respect each other and wish the best for each other. These 2 men are professionals. They do their job. In the game, someone has to loose. Sunday, it was the Pats.

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