Theismann: Redskins signing Manning would be “horrific idea”

AP

Redskins fans seem understandably excited about the possibility of adding Peyton Manning this offseason.

Perhaps the biggest fan of them all — former Redskins quarterback Joe Theismann — is not so excited.

“It’s not a good idea, it’s not a bad idea — It’s a horrific idea,” he told 106.7 last week via DC SportsBog. “It would be one of the poorest things that we could do as a franchise. Are we gonna go find another guy for just a couple of years again? Haven’t we done this before? Haven’t we seen this act before? And by the way, if you get Peyton Manning, don’t you have a concern about protecting him? Don’t you have a concern about who he throws the football to?”

We understand Theismann’s concern, but signing Manning isn’t like picking up Bruce Smith or Deion Sanders. It’s a roll of the dice on Manning’s health, but the potential reward is worth the considerable gamble.

If Manning is actually healthy and resembles the old Peyton Manning, he’s worth more than the Redskins can pay him. Washington hasn’t been able to find an answer at quarterback for years. If you are going to start all over again, why not with an all-time great?

“We’re tired of looking for stop gaps,” Theismann said. “It’s time to draft one of your own, or make a deal for a young one of your own, and nurture him, and then put the players around him. If we’re gonna be 5-11, if we’re gonna be 6-10, let’s do it with somebody who’s [learning as he goes], instead of guys that have been here, making mistakes.”

Mike Shanahan won’t be the coach anymore if the Redskins go 6-10 again. And a healthy Manning should make any team with a decent defense a contender. Washington’s defense is plenty talented.

There’s no rule that says the Redskins couldn’t develop a young quarterback while Manning is there. And there’s really no guarantee the Redskins will find someone worth developing.

No matter what Theismann thinks, we expect the Redskins to be at the front of the line of teams doing everything possible to sign Manning.

141 responses to “Theismann: Redskins signing Manning would be “horrific idea”

  1. Whoever gets Peyton is ggoing to put themselves in a bad position to ffind his replacement because the colts will want a first round pick then that team will get better and be unable to draft a QB of the future. Peyton should stay with the colts its good for hhim and the colts

  2. Hmm… it only takes 9 wins a season to win the NFC east and possibly win the superbowl representing the NFC. Peyton to Washington would be scary for us all.

    Theissman has always been a moron

  3. Yep…. Signing him would be a horrific idea.

    They might end up as a perenial sub .500 team that is irrelevant on a national level and no chance of competing for a championship- oh…. wait a minute….

  4. Of course he’s right.

    His team records are going nowhere, even if Peyton signed. Will he be there at least one year? What makes everyone thinks he’ll be any good in a new system?

    Drafting Griffin makes a lot more sense.

  5. Gregg doesn’t hang out with Redskins fans. Redskins fans aren’t thinking they will try to get Manning.

  6. He’s 100% correct!! Even if he’s 100%, is he really going to learn baby Kyle’s offense? Manning is probably a better OC than he is already. There’s no O Line to protect him, no WR’s, half of a running game, why bring a finished product in Manning into a rebuilding team?

    If we do this, it’s another 5 years at least of mediocrity AT BEST!!

  7. I’m not a Skins fan but Theismann is protesting too much here. Manning is a perfect fit for that team and would open up a SB window that they wouldn’t have otherwise. That’s a veteran defense that would love to play a nice attacking style knowing they’re always going to have a 10 point lead because of Peyton. There aren’t enough QBs to go around in the NFL so you get one, any one, as soon as you can for as long as you can.

  8. Theismann is a joke he has not been relevant as a voice or any type of input as far as`the skins are concerned. Maybe he should do as he did as a player go in the shed and get drunk.

  9. I question why the Redskins would consider themselves a front-runner in actually acquiring the guy.

    If he gets released – from Peyton’s perspective, his brother just won #2, he has a chance to reset with a new franchise, needs a good supporting cast (OL, and receiving corps) due to the type of injury he had, and regardless where he plays, he will make a significant salary. Put those things together, and I’m not sure the Redskins are in the running.

    Theismann is right on with a few comments – the Redskin’s O line isn’t that great (not saying it’s the worst), and the WR corps is probably limited to Fred Davis, Santana Moss, and a couple of younger guys with some potential.

    One wild card might actually be the climate as well. Peyton is a dome guy, and the transition to outdoors is probably easier in a southern climate vs. FedEx in November with the Eagles and Giants pass rush staring at you.

    Compare that scenario with Arizona, Miami or the Jets, who all have problems, but are more talented in the positions he interacts directly with… and that’s assuming they are the only suitors.

  10. This rumor/idea is one of many dins in the background of reality. Skins fans don’t want to even hear it. There is no silver bullet for that which ails the Skins. I can only hope that the higher-ups (Shanny, Allen) don’t get starry-eyed and want to rush what must take time. Time and a draft-centrist plan. Even free agency must fit the 30-in-13 rule.

  11. Peyton Manning is a stop gap??? Joey T is a moron, always has been, always will be. The Skins haven’t been to the playoffs in what 4-5 years? Peyton Manning isn’t Brett Farve, shut your trap Joe.

  12. Peyton would never go to that loser organization. They pick in the top 15 every year for the past 15 years and still suck. Why would he go to a team and fan base whose only claim to fame is that they got lucky against the world champs twice this season. Forever a basement team.

  13. Little Danny Snyder says, “what the h#LL are you talking about, Peyton Manning is awesome”

  14. While Joe can afford to be patient, Shanahan can’t.

    I look for them to find someone who can win 10-11 games next year. They need to make the playoffs.

    I won’t be surprised if Fins and Skins engage is a bidding war for Flynn…

  15. As a life long skins fan I can say I finally agree with Thiesmann on something. They dont have a line to protect him, they dont have recievers for him to throw to. They have an “OC” who wants his QB to do everything “his” way. I love Peyton and I dont know whether he can play anymore, if it turns out he cant I would rather he do it in another uniform other than the burgandy and gold

  16. wwwmattcom says:
    Feb 7, 2012 8:12 PM
    Whoever gets Peyton is ggoing to put themselves in a bad position to ffind his replacement because the colts will want a first round pick then that team will get better and be unable to draft a QB of the future. Peyton should stay with the colts its good for hhim and the colts
    ————
    Colts won’t get anything as Manning would be a FA. Nothing stopping them from drafting a young QB AND getting Manning.
    If Manning is healthy he’s got the skills to make skins a winning franchise provided they protect him and get him a WR.

  17. Theismann is right, Manning would be most successful on a team thats a yr or 2 away from making a serious run at the super bowl. This would be more Jets Brett Favre than Vikings Brett Favre (1st season). Dont sacrifice the future for an 8-8 or 9-7 season w/ Manning when they can get a young qb that will grow w/ the young players they are currently bringing in and build a competitive team yr in and yr out.

  18. “Redskins fans seem understandably excited about the possibility of adding Peyton Manning this offseason.”

    I’m one Skins fan that wouldn’t be happy about it. I’ve met Peyton several times, even went to his wedding. No QB and almost no one period has come back from this type injury. Let him move on, but the Skins need something NEW. Flynn or RGIII.

  19. this guy is completely inept. This is the same guy who ripped Ricky Williams and the Toronto Argonauts for “signing an addict such as Williams” while his son was sentenced to serve 10 year prison term and placed on 5 years of probation for drug paraphernalia. Theismann is oblivious to his own ignorance.

  20. ““We’re tired of looking for stop gaps,” Theismann said. “It’s time to draft one of your own, or make a deal for a young one of your own, and nurture him, and then put the players around him. If we’re gonna be 5-11, if we’re gonna be 6-10, let’s do it with somebody who’s [learning as he goes], instead of guys that have been here, making mistakes.””

    Good thing Ken Whisenhunt didn’t use that rationale to stick with Leinart over Warner.

    Nope, he made the gutsy decision, and it led to the franchise’s first SB appearance.

  21. Don’t worry Joe, I doubt very much Peyton has any interest playing for a team with no RB, O-line, or WR. He’ll be taking his talents to South beach.

  22. No way Peyton would want to go to the Redskins. The Colts and Giants have played twice since Eli has been with Giants. They hate playing against each other. No way he signs up to play against Eli twice a year. Furthermore, Peyton wants the Giants to win every game. If he is with the Redskins he has to want the Giants to lose every game. He’s not putting himself and his family through all that.

  23. “Skins need to get a young QB n stop playing …. I’m still mad about J Campbell … Smh ..”

    Right, Campbell really proved the Redskins wrong for trading him!

    Similar to Jake Plummer, Mike Shanahan realized Campbell was maxed out and mediocre, and the team’s upside was capped with him at the helm.

    It was 7-9 and 8-8 every year.

  24. Met JT once, he is a royal dbag. He comes across in this story like he’s an owner, part of administration, coach etc. Is he any of these or is he still just a dbag?

  25. The point of playing the game is to WIN “the big game”, and that’s what Peyton Manning has proven he can do when 100% healthy. The mediocre at best Rex Grossman/John Beck duo isn’t cutting is anymore Joey T! If Matt Flynn is going to Miami, then Ryan Tannehill, Jason Campbell, Vince Young, Kyle Orton are your top options? No no no, enter MANNING vs. MANNING twice a year! It would be excellent for the NFL!

  26. I hate to say it, because I too am a real skins fan who wants to see this team built right, through the draft. Danny Boy will say show me the money…when he adds Peyton. More prime time games for fed ex, more interviews on nfl network, more tix sales, lots of redskin #18 jerseys in the team store. How about the skins vs the World Champs, opening the 2012 nfl season on thursday night. Eli Vs. Peyton. NFC east match up. The only team that beat the Giants twice in 2011. Danny boy will hire Peyton quick, to make the skins relevent again, if only for a short time.

  27. He is right. I would love to have Peyton, but it’s time we have a guy who we drafted. Peyton would be to big for the Skins. I’m pretty sure he has a EGO and we all now that Mike has one. Get a young guy. Skins have not had “the man” in a long time and it’s time. Dan Synder just has to be patient. We need to keep all the coaches in place and start building.

  28. Correct me if I’m not the first to say this. Everyone, keeps mentioning how Peyton would want to stay in the AFC (presumably the East, to face the Patriots twice a year). Has anyone thought that he might want to play against Eli as a Redskin twice a year? The Eagles and Cowboys don’t seem like possibilities so the Redskins make more sense for that scenario. The Redskins beat the Giants twice last year too so, maybe they don’t look to unattractive to him if that was his motive.

  29. Peyton and Irsay will finally get it together and all this speculation about where Peyton is going to play (or not) will be for naught.

  30. As always, it’s all about Joe Theismann. Hmmmm. Let’s see, if Peyton were wildly successful, then all of a sudden, Joe wouldn’t be considered the Redskins’ all-time greatest QB forever & ever & ever! That’s what Joe cares about; Joe. I don’t mind him hitting the crack-pipe, if only he would just, finally, shut up. You may say I’m a dreamer….but I’m not the only one.

  31. Orakpo, Kerrigan, Williams, Helu, Royster, Hankerson, Riley, Gomes, Paul, Coefield, Jenkins, and the Polish Punisher Nield are all under 30 and are either establishing themselves as solid NFL veterans or are promising rookie/1st year players who have earned significant playing time.

    Not the biggest collection of young talent on one team in the NFL, but a damn good start 2 years into a rebuild. To say the Skins have no young talent is an ignorant statement.

  32. theismann played there for quite a while.

    he has the record for 25,206 total passing yards.

    baugh, jurgensen, schroeder…

  33. Sunshine Joe isn’t thought of as the greatest QB in Skins history. That would be Sammy Baugh followed by Sonny Jurgensen. Sunshine Joe might be 3rd, but Billy Kilmer still has a lot of love out there with Skins fans. That makes Sunshine Joe 4th at best.

  34. Some fun facts to support the people who think the Redskins should draft a QB instead of sign Manning…or those who think they should do both.

    Redskins QB’s drafted since 1990
    1990 Cary Conklin 4th round
    1992 Chris Hakel 4th round
    1994 Heath Shuler 1st round
    2000 Todd Husak 6th round
    2001 Sage Rosenfels 6th round
    2002 Patrick Ramsey 1st round
    2003 Gibran Hamden 7th round
    2005 Jason Campbell 1st round
    2007 Jordan Palmer 6th round
    2008 Colt Brennan 6th round

    None of them made a pro bowl and none spent more then four seasons with the team.

  35. Just a few points worth rebutting here:

    –Someone here says Peyton couldn’t play for “control freak” Mike Shanahan, and yet the Great Prima Donna John Elway had no problem winning two SB’s playing for him.

    –Dan Snyder will not get into a trade/bidding war for Peyton because, listen carefully everyone, Dan Snyder does NOT make personnel decisions at Redskin Park these days! He gave up that job to Mike Shanahan and Bruce Allen.

    –The Skins’ O line is better than a lot of people out there think, and will be better still after the next FA period and draft. Shanahan knows how to build an offense.

    –The running backs on the Skins’ roster are MORE than adequate. Did anyone not see what Roy Helu and Evan Royster did this year, running behind the O line that everybody seems to hate?

    –At WR, the Skins have some talent, but holy crap with Rex Grossman throwing to the wrong colored jerseys all the damn time who could tell? Look for Leonard Hankerson and Niles Paul to make some serious noise next year, IF they have a real QB to throw it to them.

    –Folks, listen, Mike Shanahan KNOWS he needs a young, franchise-potential QB to draft and develop for the long term. That doesn’t mean the Skins couldn’t benefit greatly from the presence of Peyton Manning in the short term. Unless the Skins can trade way up this Spring, they aren’t going to be able to draft Luck or RGIII, and I don’t think anyone is pointing out anybody else in this draft class to be franchise guys. The Redskins have to make the playoffs next year, and they need a QB who is ready to play now.

    –And finally, Joe Theismann is nothing but a human superlative generator who wants nothing more than to grab headlines and shine the spotlight on himself. A “horrific idea” to sign Peyton Manning for Washington? I think listening to anything Joe T. says is a more horrific idea.

  36. “Redskins fans seem understandably excited about the possibility of adding Peyton Manning this offseason.”

    That’s lazy reporting Gregg. You can do better than that. I am a diehard Skins fan and know many people here in DC like me.

    Many of us do NOT want Peyton to come here. We want to draft a QB and build the team up like Giants, Steelers, etc did.

    Robert Griffin III or Ryan Tannenhill

  37. Didn’t the Redskins try the long-term solution route when they drafted Patrick Ramsey in 2002 and Jason Campbell in 2005?

    And for 2012-2014, what is Theismann’s solution? Commiting big $$$ to Flynn would be foolish, and they’d have to give a king’s ransom to move up to #2 for RG3.

    The Redskins haven’t won a playoff game since 1999. Fans are tired of waiting, and Manning provides a Pro Bowl caliber QB immediately if he returns to even his 2010 form.

  38. The same Joe Theismann who said that the Skins are going to the Superbowl in 2009? The same Joe Theismann who said Jason Campbell would be an all-pro QB and MVP candidate in 2009? Theismann has always been a redskins homer who overrates the teams talent. Now when the Redskins have a chance to add a hall of fame QB who would instantly propel them into the playoffs he thinks THAT is a horrific idea? If the Skins sign Matt Flynn Theismann would probably declare them SB favorites.

  39. By signing Manning, there is nothing that prevents them from still drafting a QB of the future. They aren’t trading picks to acquire Manning. They’re going to sign him as a free agent. The Skins can still draft a QB to learn behind him. Besides, if you draft a QB in the first round, they’ll have two options: throw that QB under the fire, or likely have him sit behind a re-signed Grossman. Uh, I’d rather have him learn from Manning rather than Grossman.

    Theismann is a tool.

  40. If they sign Manning and get a tackle at #6, they win several more games next year and continue as long as he’s healthy.

  41. If this was a trade situation and the Redskins would have to give up one or two first-round draft picks, I could see Theismann’s point; but since it isn’t, what’s the alternative – standing pat with the 7-5-4-3-2 poker hand that Rex Grossman represents and finishing in the NFC East cellar for another three or four years in a row?

  42. @fittytuckin

    If thats what you think then you either have never seen a Skins game this past season, or you know very little about football. Which is it? Probably a bit of both.

    Patrick Ramsey was the Skins last best shot at a long term solution at QB. The kid had potential, and balls of brass, but that joke offense that Spurrier ran screwed that kid up something fierce and he took a beating. Then Gibbs part duh came along and cast him aside like a POS and his confidence was gone. Ramsey wouldn’t have been on the Brees, Brady, or Rodgers level but he could of been on the Hasselbeck level. Good NFL Qb. Shame really.

    The Skins need to draft prospect this offseason. End of story.

  43. I’m a long time Redskins fan and think signing Peyton would be a terrible idea. He wouldn’t work well with the OC, he’d be overpaid and thus strapping the team again, and the offense has more problems than just QB. I hope they find a way to move up to get a QB to mold.

  44. Nobody haas thought the Colts might shock everyone and take RG3 to back up Manning for the next three years. RG3 has said it would be a honor to play behind Peyton for however long it takes. I pray that happens for the Skins. This us the only scenerio where I would like to see Peyton come here. But I do think Thiesmen is jealous of Peyton and if he won a SB in Washington Joe is afraid his legacy may be tarnished. If not, I would rather see us get RG3 and build for the future. But i would not be against Peyton lighting FedEx up.

  45. the colts should:

    1) release Manning – now. GET IT OVER WITH, there will be a week of horrible press and then it will be over.

    2) Pull a Herschel Walker with the #1 pick – trade it and get some picks and maybe a player

    3) Sign a Free agent QB – go after Flynn

    one thing we can count on – whatever irsay does it will probably blow up in his face, and I like that

  46. All of this is just pointless noise. The fact is nobody knows who will pan out. Manning could play well for a couple of years and help groom the next Manning. Luck could suck. RG3 could be great or never make it in the NFL. No choice is without it’s risk. So unless we can get Green Bay to trade ol discount double check, we are going to have to wait and see what happens. And isn’t that what makes the NFL great?

  47. This from the guy that predicted on NFL Playbook that the Colts would win in New Orleans this year (they got pasted 62-7).

  48. I would be far more concerned for Manning. Washington is where QBs go to die. They could put Superman himself on the field and screw it up. I suspect he’ll go to a team that can win, not one that will do everything in its power to lose.

  49. They’re not going to get Luck so they’d have to trade up for RG3. With the rookie cap, RG3 is worth a gamble. After that, Peyton doesn’t sound like a bad idea.

  50. Redskins: for god sakes pay this man and let’s start winning games. Manning immediately makes the team who beat the world champs twice (handily) better. Go back and watch the games this year and put Manning in there instead of Rex Grossman or John Beck and the Skins are in the playoffs… period. What’s the goal in the nfl? To win the superbowl, not to just slowly improve with a rookie qb or an avg free agent qb… and it’s aint happening with Rex or Beck or a rookie anytime soon. I get the concept Joe T talks about but as a die-hard Skins fan I want results now and Manning can make that happen. We have the defense in place, running game and young talent (WR Hankerson will be an all-pro in ’12 mark my words). Draft a few key players and it’s on. Hail!

  51. Theisman is not a fan. He’s a former winning SB QB for Washington with some serious celebrity status.

    The last thing he wants to see that status and his legacy diluted by Peyton coming there and winning a SB.

    They don’t have a serious QB right now so who cares if look for one while Peyton tries to win a SB?

    Sorry Joe but you’re not thinking about the fans you’re thinking about yourself.

  52. You know what else would be a horrific idea? Making Theismann an analyst for the international feed for the Super Bowl. And that’s what the NFL did. Friends in Sweden were PI$$ED.

    Doesn’t the world already hate us enough?

  53. You mean if Manning plays for the Redskins, he could wind up playing for a team with no running game, a bad line, a shaky defense, a bunch of wide receivers no one has heard of, a team like…the Indianapolis Colts?

  54. What if the Skins sign Manning and Reggie Wayne, he’s a FA too. Dan’s checkbook never closes and that would allow the Skins to use the draft to shore up the line problems.

  55. Guess Joe knows best…. Good luck Redskins, you have zero chance to acquire Peyton Manning… Think most people would agree hes going to sign with a GOOD team.. Not a junky scrappy team… YEAH Jon Beck hahaha love stupid old pros who still think they have a say…

    AKA fran tarkenten, Joe, warner, Jerry jones ( I know I know just saying )

  56. 1) All that has actually come out from Redskins Park is that they are doing their due diligence work on Manning.

    They’re doing it for all the potential free agents. Nothing has been said by them about them being in with a good shot of landing Peyton or about him being there number one target.

    So far any Manning-Redskins connection is entirely media speculation.

    2) If we are going to speculate, Washington doesn’t seem like a good destination for Manning. I am a fan, and if he is healthy I’d love to have him on the team, but I can’t see him wanting to join a team that doesn’t really have any offensive playmakers.

    I wouldn’t want to join a rebuilding team in the same division as my little brother and face two games a year working with less talented offense.

    3) There are couple of teams that are ready to compete, already have a young developmental QB that they drafted last year sitting on the roster, and could shed their current starter without much problem.

    The 49ers have a championship calibre defense and a ton of first round picks invested in the offense. Their starter,Alex Smith, is a free agent. Kapernick can be sat, to develop behind Peyton and they have an offensively minded head coach that has proven himself in his first year.

    The Texans also make sense. Like the 49ers they’ve got a championship calibre defense. They’ve arguably got a better offense, with one of the games best receivers already on board. Incumbant starter Matt Schaub is in the final year of his contract. He is relatively young but has struggled to finish 16 games in the regular season, managing it only twice.

    Even with a busted neck, they might feel more confident about Manning making it through to the play-offs than Schaub. Like San Fran, Houston already have a development QB, Yates, who can learn behind Peyton for the next few years. Schaub can be cut or traded with a minimal cap hit.

    The Texans would also have the added attraction of sticking it to the Colts twice a year. With the added joy of watching that defense working over Andrew Luck behind the Colts aging offensive line.

    4) According to the press, the fact that Peyton has a house in Miami is significant.

    The Dolphins also have a first time head coach. After a few years with Jim Caldwell I think Peyton might just be a little wary of playing for a rookie HC, particularly one taking over a franchise that has struggled over recent years.

    Warm weather only goes so far and I am pretty sure Peyton will be able to afford a pretty decent house in a nice neighbourhood wherever he signs.

    Also, San Fran and Houston, not exactly Cleveland or Detroit in terms of the weather or the imminent collapse of society.

  57. Hes right..the redskins have alot of work to do before they even think about bringin in manning.

  58. @thereisalwaysnextyear

    “I’ve met Peyton several times, even went to his wedding.”

    I’m sure this was necessary to mention in your thought provoking analysis of the situation. What wonderful insight you have provided, I can feel comfortable about the free agency period ahead with your thoughts at the back of my mind!

    I truly don’t see Joe T’s place in the media but if people like you are the alternative then we should be truly thankful!!

  59. While I agree with Joe that the ‘Skins need to for once draft their own franchise quarterback, I disagree aquiring Peyton via free agency would be horrific. Getting and paying that much money to fat albert was horrific. So Joey T needs some perspective.

  60. 2 things to consider even if Manning is 100% healthy and is willing to come to the redskins.

    1) The redskins are usually up against the cap every year. Manning is going to still want to be the highest paid QB in the league. How do you clear the cap space for a 20-30mill salary?

    2) Much like when Favre was wondering from team to team in his later years, Peyton will want Indy’s offense installed so that he is comfortable. Can the Redskins make it work?

  61. Some fun facts to support the people who think the Redskins should draft a QB instead of sign Manning…or those who think they should do both.

    Redskins QB’s drafted since 1990
    1990 Cary Conklin 4th round
    1992 Chris Hakel 4th round
    1994 Heath Shuler 1st round
    2000 Todd Husak 6th round
    2001 Sage Rosenfels 6th round
    2002 Patrick Ramsey 1st round
    2003 Gibran Hamden 7th round
    2005 Jason Campbell 1st round
    2007 Jordan Palmer 6th round
    2008 Colt Brennan 6th round

    None of them made a pro bowl and none spent more then four seasons with the team

    _______________________________

    Any how many of these QBs were drafted under Shanahan? Can’t hold the current staff accountable for a previous regime’s mistakes, especially when it spans over a half dozen coaches.

  62. Theismann is very funny. Not Ha Ha, but peculiar. He was an average QB, and a terrible commentator. His opinion means nothing. Does anyone believe Peyton would sign with a team in his brother’s division? Not a chance!
    If Indy is dumb enough to let Manning go, Washington won’t even be a consideration.
    Peyton will either stay in the AFC, and go to Miami, or he’ll look hard at Arizona. Both great fits for Peyton’s skills.

  63. To me, the reason Washington should be interested is BECAUSE they have so many other holes to fill. Mortgaging two drafts to move up four spots to get RGIII leaves you unable to add the O linemen or other receivers Griffin would need to be successful. Sign Peyton, then draft to plug some of the other holes, and add a developmental QB like Russell Wilson later in the draft.

    I noted that Joe Gibbs said at the Super Bowl that if the Redskins signed him, they should design the offense around what he knows and does, and not expect him to play in Kyle’s offense. I think Gibbs said that to give some advice to his buddy Dan Snyder.

    As long as the contract does not tie the team down in case Peyton cannot play, I do not understand the risk.

  64. Peyton to the skins works. It weakens an AFC opponent for us.

    Also, Manning Brothers against each other twice would be a media dream.

  65. hillbillyjim says:
    Feb 8, 2012 2:34 AM
    What if the Skins sign Manning and Reggie Wayne, he’s a FA too. Dan’s checkbook never closes and that would allow the Skins to use the draft to shore up the line problems.

    ==================================
    Goobs, have you heard that there is this thing called a salary cap in the NFL?

  66. I love these goobers who think that Peyton Manning will take their team to the Super Bowl. Joe Flacco is a better post season QB than Peyton Manning.

  67. If Peyton were to leave Indy, he would only go to a team thats a contender. He wont leave for a team with the highest offer. He will go where there is almost a guarantee at immediate success. Raiders, Redskins etc are NOT ever going to have a real chance at landing him.

  68. Hey Joe, we’re talking about the “Washington Redskins”….not your grandson’s pop warner team. Although you’re that f-ing stupid, you probably think Peyton would be bad for them too. Moron. Besides…..who made you boss? Whats with this “we” crap? Look out joe…….here comes LT!!!

  69. I think Peyton to Washington makes great sense on paper. The only time Shannahan on his super bowls he had a vetern qb who was essentially the teams OC. Course the Broncos had a better team at the time due to breaking salary cap rules and Kyle was still in school, but hey, may be lightning will strike twice!

  70. Wow for once i agree with Theismann. Heres the thing. The NFC E arguably has the best pass rushers in the league. Your gonnna wanna invest in a guy thats 36 and has just come off multiple neck surgeries and no one knows if hes really healthy? How durable will manning be against the hits hes going to take from guys like Ware and pierre paul? Would be one thing if you could get him for the price of a ham sandwich but we all know someone will have to spend big for manning. Haven’t we seen this all to often skins fans? If your going to burn a pick burn another 1st rounder and try and get your hands on RG3 . I thought redskins nation turned a corner and was building for the future not collecting prizes of the past.

  71. Four things, Joe:

    1. If Manning’s absence this year proved anything, it was that he makes everyone around him so much better. Do you really think that the line, receivers, and running backs just magically got worse at the same time? The lack of talent isn’t as serious when you have Manning throwing the ball.

    2. Manning has some free agent Colts who may be willing to follow him to Washington. Garcon immediately comes to mind, as does Clark, who seems like a good candidate to be released.

    3. It will be easier to attract top-flight free agents when your QB is Manning and not some youngster like Griffin or Tannehill. Grab Manning and use the draft and free agency to build around him. Manning is not a stopgap. He is potentially the missing piece of a championship puzzle.

    4. Manning has said that he’s willing to negotiate a contract that limits the risk for the team. An incentive-laden contract based on playing time would assure that this wouldn’t result in yet another Redskins free agent bust.

  72. Old loudmouth might be right for once.

    The Skins should do whatever’s needed to trade up for RG3…

  73. A smarter idea is to not consider that Manning will even be let go. What the Redskins SHOULD do is assume that Manning will still be a Colt. Then offer your ENTIRE draft to Indy for the top pick. Then draft Luck. After 2012 (if the world is still around) build your team around Andrew Luck. Problem solved.

  74. I think it would be entertaining watching Shanahan & Son use their control freak coaching methods, calling all the plays and telling Peyton to just execute. And I’m sure Peyton will react to the Shanahans after running his own offence in Indy for his career.

    But then I like to watch train wrecks!

  75. crj202 says:
    Feb 7, 2012 8:22 PM
    He’s 100% correct!! Even if he’s 100%, is he really going to learn baby Kyle’s offense?
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    If the Skins sign Peyton the 1st thing that he does when he walks in the building is throw Kyle’s playbook in the trash and says “Nice to meet you fellas. We’re gonna do this my way from now on.”

    And he would be right to do it.

  76. @imopen7

    As a Skins fan, and someone who thinks Sunshine Joe is full of **** seven days out of the week, he has every right to say “we” when referring to the Skins. He played over 10 years for the Skins and led the team to 2 SB appearences, winning 1. He is an alum and will be considered a Skin tell he dies.

    And I don’t understand some saying Peyton wouldn’t want to play in the same division against Eli. Why not? Would Peyton not want to play Eli if the Colts and Giants met in the SB? I doubt it. I am not a fan of the Skins picking up Manning, but suggesting the Manning brothers wouldn’t want to compete against each other seems silly.

  77. Peyton will stay in the AFC. Thats the way Archie wants it. He doesn’t want them in the same conference. It was a big reason (but to be sure, not the only reason) Eli ended up with the Giants instead of the Chargers back in ’04

  78. Yes Joe we have seen this before, the main difference is that we don’t have Vinny making that call. Peyton is one of the few of the great QB’s ever, he was had an outstanding season before the injury. I don’t see how this is such a bad idea. By signing Peyton it will not result in the Redskins not doing anything else to improve the team. What Peyton will do is before a winning attitude to this town. He is in the mold of Jordan, where its get on board or get out of town. That is what he is going to bring while we continue to improve this team.

  79. The Redskins make zero sense for Manning. He is a warm weather (Dome QB) with a healing triceps nerve that is greatly affecting his ability to pass the football. He didn’t exactly have a “laser rocket arm” to begin with and if his nerve doesn’t fully regenerate, what makes anyone think he’s going to want to play outside, in the cold, in the wind, versus the defenses the NFC East offers?

  80. Theisman is pretty dumb but Manning to the Skins would be a pointless. The Skins don’t have nearly enough to get to the Super Bowl with Manning, their receivers are pretty awful and their running game is mediocre. They need to build a core before they break the bank on a brittle QB.

    But with that said I bet Snyder is foaming at the mouth for the chance to get Manning.

  81. The Joe T. comments were about whether signing Peyton made sense for the Redskins. To me, it does, and it is a no brainer. The other half of the equation is whether it makes sense for Peyton, or whether he wants to play there. That is a very different and open question.

    If he wants to play in Miami because he owns a house in that area, then it really does not matter how good another team’s defense is. If he wants to win a Super Bowl, he might be better off somewhere like Baltimore (think the Baltimore fans would embrace a Colts legend?) And by the way, for those who think Washington is dog meat, their defense is ranked in the middle of the pack in scoring and yardage, and they beat the Super Bowl champions twice. With a competent NFL QB (which they have not had in 20 years), and another solid draft, they might make some noise in the NFC East.

  82. As an Eagles fan, I’d like my chances of getting to the Super Bowl a lot more with Peyton Manning at QB than I would with Mike Vick. The only question is whether the Eagles offensive line could protect Manning (and his lack of mobility) well enough to keep him from getting killed back there.

  83. None of you idiots have read any of Peyton’s comments….He said he would be willing to play under a incentive laden contract because he knows what a burden he could be to a team if he did get re-injured again. You absolutely try to get Peyton he instantly makes this team better. You could draft Blackmon at # 6 or a tackle. Pick up a QB in the 2nd or 3rd round to learn from Peyton. Remember their are a lot of Free agent WR’s available…V-Jax, Manningham, Colston name one of those guys who wouldn’t love to catch passes from Peyton Manning. This is a no-brainer for the Redskins “Hail to the Redskins “

  84. wwwmattcom says: Feb 7, 2012 8:12 PM

    “Whoever gets Peyton is ggoing to put themselves in a bad position to ffind his replacement because the colts will want a first round pick then that team will get better and be unable to draft a QB of the future. Peyton should stay with the colts its good for hhim and the colts”

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    Why would the colts get a first rounder? They’re going to release him! He’ll be a free agent! They might get a compensatory pick at the end of next season. Also, you say he should stay with the colts…NEWSFLASH: it’s not his choice!

  85. Assuming the Colts cut him, anyone willing to make a big investment in Peyton would want to do so before the draft. Before anyone commits to Peyton Manning, they are going to want to see him throw, and have him undergo a battery of medical tests. Be honest – how do you think he’ll hold up? If you see him floating passes out there, and your doctors shrug their shoulders when you ask about his recovery, do you really want to commit big money on the hope that he will improve?

  86. gmen1987

    I love these goobers who think that Peyton Manning will take their team to the Super Bowl. Joe Flacco is a better post season QB than Peyton Manning.

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    You are a complete MORON. What the hell has Flacco done. Peyton has been to two SB’s and won one of them and is an instant Hall of Fame QB. The only way Flacco is in Canton is if he buys a ticket!! What a douche!!

  87. The Skins are desperate for a QB, and have cap room, but there’s no way Manning goes to the same division as his little brother (except unless no on else wants him).

    The Cards would have to cut Kolb and take a 6mil dead cap hit (plus the 10mil already invested in him), meaning it would cost them more than anyone else. More likely they stay with him since he’s younger. Plus they (GM and HC) would look rather foolish if they bailed on him after one year.

    Seattle is a realistic player, with cap space and Tavaris Jackson as current starter. But both the Hawks and Cards are out manned by the 49ers even with Manning, so would he be inclined to go there.

    49ers have cap space and Alex Smith’s contract has expired, and a strong D. However, Smith is 27 and was in the top 10 QB passer rating 2011; so would they give up on him for 36 year old Peyton? Not likely.

    Miami has Matt Moore under a contract for another year Henne a free agent, and no realistic shot at the top QB’s in the draft. Strong D, decent offensive weapons, and an owner who has openly stated a priority interest in Manning. Some say he wouldn’t want to face the Patriots twice a year, the fact is he would probably thoroughly enjoy it for a multitude of reasons and find it motivating (as would the NFL).

    The Jets have no shot. No cap space, way too much invested in Sanchez (both money and future), and Peyton likely wouldn’t want to share the spot light in NY with his brother, though Eli probably would care (then again he’s on the better team). The Jets would be the most unlikely other than the Skins to land Manning (just a NY media driven pipe dream).

  88. sknsfn1027 says:
    Feb 8, 2012 12:05 PM

    You are a complete MORON. What the hell has Flacco done. Peyton has been to two SB’s and won one of them and is an instant Hall of Fame QB. The only way Flacco is in Canton is if he buys a ticket!! What a douche!!

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    Manning has not been very good in the postseason. The year the Colts won the superbowl he threw 3 TDS total and 7 INTS that postseason which also include a game with a 39.6 passer rating. The defense pulled together for once and Peyton got credit for it as always. The MVP was the defense, not Manning.

  89. markmckeeexp says:
    Feb 7, 2012 9:02 PM
    As always, it’s all about Joe Theismann. Hmmmm. Let’s see, if Peyton were wildly successful, then all of a sudden, Joe wouldn’t be considered the Redskins’ all-time greatest QB forever & ever & ever! That’s what Joe cares about; Joe. I don’t mind him hitting the crack-pipe, if only he would just, finally, shut up. You may say I’m a dreamer….but I’m not the only one.

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    The greatest Redskin QB? That would be Sammy Baugh.

  90. Bottom line, is this unbiased site didnt report the entire conversation… once again.. I know shocker isn’t it..

    Theisman said it would be horrific for ANYONE to sign Peyton other then the Colts… Rosenfool you stink

  91. Don’t be surprised when you see Archie Manning speaking for Peyton saying he will never play for the Skins, they are a terrible losing organization (a la Eli with the Chargers).

  92. Reminds me of Fran Tarkenton going off the deep end when Favre came to Minnesota. And during his first year at that. It’s simply jealousy.

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