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On Jim Irsay’s decision

So I got around to watching Florio’s on demand PFT Live segment on Jim Irsay’s dilemma yesterday, and it’s pretty interesting.

I hate to give him a compliment, but I know he won’t actually read this post. (Or post his own videos.)

The gist of it is: Could Irsay’s desire not to see Manning in another uniform cause Irsay to throw a curveball and consider paying Manning after all?

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25 Responses to “On Jim Irsay’s decision”
  1. gbpackman says: Feb 8, 2012 12:26 PM

    I’m sorry, but that’s the dumbest idea I have ever heard.

  2. daysend564 says: Feb 8, 2012 12:38 PM

    Guy is just trying to not look like a complete d-bag heading into Free Agency. Who’d want to sign with a team that treats their franchise player like garbage. Trick them in now, dump Manning later.

  3. golonger says: Feb 8, 2012 12:38 PM

    Right…..nobody would be dumb enough to……oh, that’s right,it’s Irsay!

  4. slobberknockered says: Feb 8, 2012 12:41 PM

    Keep Peyton, Draft Luck, have Luck learn from the master. Get three good defensive FA, a FS, pass rusher and shutdown CB. Make a RUN at a Super Bowl. Give Peyton two years, then make Luck your starter. This is a no-brainer.

  5. bigjdve says: Feb 8, 2012 12:54 PM

    It is an interesting wrinkle – I guess he called it. I hadn’t really thought that he would try that.

    It would be just about the only way that he can beat Peyton with the politics game at this point. However is that really beating him?

    Here is 28 million dollars, stop talking about going somewhere else. Duh – okay George er Jim.

  6. mrbeefhead says: Feb 8, 2012 12:57 PM

    The only people who think keeping Peyton is a bad idea are the fans of 28 other teams that want an upgrade at QB.

    It’s Irsay’s millions. Let him spend it how he wants

  7. mwcarolina says: Feb 8, 2012 1:26 PM

    i dont think i would agree with it only due to the fact that it could then be hard to re-sign or sign free agents to deals. they also have Wayne and Saturday as free agents and i dont think they should lose them two, plus Garcon and Gonzalez are both free agents too.

  8. lance227 says: Feb 8, 2012 1:38 PM

    One Q I really havent heard anybody ask: So if you were Andrew Luck, would you really want to play for this schmuck?

  9. quittsburghstoolers says: Feb 8, 2012 1:40 PM

    At this point I dare so most NFL fans don’t give a crap anymore.

    We all want Jimbo to make the announcement
    (whatever it will be) and then shut the hell up…

  10. ravenspit says: Feb 8, 2012 1:42 PM

    It cracks me up when idiots like daysend say Manning is being treated like garbage. Irsay agreed to a two year contract with Manning last year, knowing of his health issues and their was a good possibility that his play in 2011 could be limited or none at all. Doesn’t sound too bad to me. I tend to agree with beefhead-its the fans of other teams that think it would be a bad idea for the Colts to keep him.

  11. gmen1987 says: Feb 8, 2012 1:46 PM

    Keep Peyton, Draft Luck, have Luck learn from the master. Get three good defensive FA, a FS, pass rusher and shutdown CB. Make a RUN at a Super Bowl. Give Peyton two years, then make Luck your starter. This is a no-brainer.

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    And where are you going to find all these players, Goobs?

  12. cubancigar10 says: Feb 8, 2012 1:50 PM

    It is simply a business decision that must be made. Popularity may not influence the decision one way or another. But then again it may. Who knows. Peyton already got his money and has performed admirably. The beat goes on. Retire if you must. Good luck buddy–you were a real thrill to watch and would love to watch you again if that is what you decide (choose wisely my young Jedi).

  13. 2sausage11 says: Feb 8, 2012 1:51 PM

    Never happen as you can see from last years record. They need to upgrade to much that they can’t keep Peyton. His money alone could fill 2 maybe 3 spots.

  14. philtration says: Feb 8, 2012 1:55 PM

    lance227 says: Feb 8, 2012 1:38 PM

    One Q I really havent heard anybody ask: So if you were Andrew Luck, would you really want to play for this schmuck?
    ====================================
    Good point.
    What if Luck pulls an Elway on the Colts?
    If the team comes off as dumping all over their best player then what is to keep Luck from pulling his own power play to look out for himself?

    He is going to get big money no matter where he plays and he may not get thrown into the fire right away with a better team.
    Learning the NFL game before he was the starter worked really well for Rodgers in Green Bay.

  15. 2sausage11 says: Feb 8, 2012 2:08 PM

    philtration says:
    Feb 8, 2012 1:55 PM
    lance227 says: Feb 8, 2012 1:38 PM

    One Q I really havent heard anybody ask: So if you were Andrew Luck, would you really want to play for this schmuck?
    ====================================
    Good point.
    What if Luck pulls an Elway on the Colts?
    If the team comes off as dumping all over their best player then what is to keep Luck from pulling his own power play to look out for himself?

    He is going to get big money no matter where he plays and he may not get thrown into the fire right away with a better team.
    Learning the NFL game before he was the starter worked really well for Rodgers in Green Bay.

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    One more thing aren’t Manning’s dad and Luck’s dad some what friendly. He could have some advice on how to help pull off what Eli did

  16. nationalmediacansuckit says: Feb 8, 2012 2:24 PM

    Please Colts don’t draft the great and almighty hall of famer Luck. The other 3 teams are so afraid of him. As a matter of fact the Jags, Titans and Texans might as well give up and bow down to Luck. ESPN has done a magnificent job in the over-hype of this guy. Keep up the good work guys.

  17. conbro8 says: Feb 8, 2012 2:30 PM

    slobberknockered says:Feb 8, 2012 12:41 PM

    Keep Peyton, Draft Luck, have Luck learn from the master. Get three good defensive FA, a FS, pass rusher and shutdown CB. Make a RUN at a Super Bowl. Give Peyton two years, then make Luck your starter. This is a no-brainer.
    =============
    I completely agree with you on this, even though the talking heads will be mad they got it wrong the whole time. Anybody who disagrees is just jealous that their quarterback is Rex Grossman, John Skelton, or Mark Sanchez.

  18. vetdana says: Feb 8, 2012 2:38 PM

    Could Irsay’s desire not to see Manning in another uniform cause Irsay to throw a curveball and consider paying Manning after all?….NO !

    For three reasons…1. that would result in cap space limitations and hurt the team going forward…2..We still don’t know the complete status of Mannings injury .[ even if he is released to play,some nerve tissue damage may be permanent and effect his ability to throw the ball !]and 3.Nobody just tosses 28 million up in the air to see where it is going to land !…as would be the case if Peyton cannot really play and be effective next season.. No way is this a good business option on the part of Colts Mgmt.!

  19. sbaltimore says: Feb 8, 2012 2:52 PM

    Considering the cap ramifications, the questionable health of Manning, and the other needs the team has to fill, I’d say it would be a mistake for Irsay to pay Manning for the primary purpose of having him not play for another team. That’s not to say Irsay won’t do it — just that it would not be a wise decision.

  20. uwsptke says: Feb 8, 2012 3:11 PM

    slobberknockered says:Feb 8, 2012 12:41 PM

    Keep Peyton, Draft Luck, have Luck learn from the master. Get three good defensive FA, a FS, pass rusher and shutdown CB. Make a RUN at a Super Bowl. Give Peyton two years, then make Luck your starter. This is a no-brainer.
    =============

    Yikes. You have to realize that this is impossible, right? For starters, about 90% of the time any player worth his weight in salt doesn’t even sniff free agency. Shutdown corners aren’t walking the street looking for work in March (unless they’re leaving Oakland like Woodson and Aso). Same goes for impact pass rushers. The Colts were the worst team in the league in 2011, AND had the worst cap situation. They couldn’t even afford to make a claim on Kyle Orton because they couldn’t spare the million bucks. And you want to pay Peyton’s $28 million roster bonus in addition to his base salary? Totally impossible. You would for sure lose Wayne and Mathis, and would cripple your franchise.

    How about this instead: Cut Peyton, draft Luck. Use the cash savings to invest in extensions for players you want to build around for the next few years. Then pray that your GM and scouting people know what they’re doing when it comes to the draft. Trade down when possible, and come out of draft weekend with 10-13 players. You need quantity over quality at this point, because you have turn over 1/3 of that roster.

    I know Colts fans desperately want to win one more for the guy, and I really feel for you guys, but it just can’t happen in Indy. It’s a financial impossibility.

  21. fjd10 says: Feb 8, 2012 3:13 PM

    slobberknockered says:
    Feb 8, 2012 12:41 PM
    Keep Peyton, Draft Luck, have Luck learn from the master. Get three good defensive FA, a FS, pass rusher and shutdown CB. Make a RUN at a Super Bowl. Give Peyton two years, then make Luck your starter. This is a no-brainer.

    __________________________________
    Just how do suggest they pay for all that?

  22. melikefootball says: Feb 8, 2012 3:20 PM

    Will be interesting to see how Colt fans react to Irsay’s decision. They have been fortunate to have a team with not much contraversey. Will they be happy to see if he goes or plays against them.

  23. gacoltfan says: Feb 8, 2012 3:49 PM

    Even if they paid the $28m, the cap hit for Peyton in 2012 would be $17m. If they release him the cap hit is $10m. So keeping him costs $7m of cap space. If he is healthy, he is still one of the top 3-4 QB’s. In today’s NFL, any team with a QB at that level is a contender.

    I’m not sure they are as bad especially on defense as some might think. They have been playing that soft Tampa 2 defense far too long. That defense is past it’s time. Offenses have figured out how to beat it. Pagano will have them playing a more aggressive defense. Any offense with Peyton is going to be good.

  24. 1historian says: Feb 8, 2012 5:10 PM

    Cut Manning – now

    The excrement will hit the air circulator for a week maybe 10 days then speculation will turn to the draft

    Trade the pick – pull a Herschel Walker move – Stock up on picks and some players.

    Go after FAs, especially Flynn.

  25. 1historian says: Feb 8, 2012 5:11 PM

    BTW – I don’t care what they say about PM’s arm – by the time August gets here he will be 36+ and it will have been 20 months or so since he threw a serious pass and he is coming off neck surgery.

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