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Trent Cole has a point

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The four teams in the NFC East have won 12 combined Super Bowls following the Giants’ win on Sunday. Of course, none of those 12 titles came from the Philadelphia Eagles.

Seeing another division rival come out on top again stings in Philadelphia.

“It’s hard [to see the Giants win again]. They’re too close to home. But you’ve got to give it to them,” defensive end Trent Cole said Tuesday via Les Bowen of the Philadelphia Inquirer.

Trent Cole said Tuesday the Eagles were “inches” away from being a “dominant, dominant” team. He said teams are “going to be worried about playing us” in 2012.

This sounds like wishful thinking, but Cole has a point. Philly outscored their opponents by 68 points last year. (The Giants were outscored in the regular season.)  Only two teams were in the top ten of scoring offense and defense: Houston and Philadelphia. Teams should be worried about Philly next year.

Those numbers speak to the fact that the Eagles underachieved last year. But the pieces are in place to be a contending team.

Of course, that will only make it more frustrating if Philadelphia watches another Super Bowl parade in other city next year.

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  1. ammarradhi says: Feb 8, 2012 12:07 PM

    He better get used to it, the Giants are young enough team to win 3 or 4 more super bowls in the next few years.

  2. eaglesw00t says: Feb 8, 2012 12:08 PM

    You cant say Trent Cole may be right. The Eagles (and Eagles fan) haters are listening.

    Bring on the thumbs down.

    The Eagles were a Ronnie Brown fumble away from pushing the Giants out of the playoffs. Deal with it.

  3. johntonioholmes says: Feb 8, 2012 12:08 PM

    Philly has no linebackers and has average D tackles.

    But they lost a lot of games that they could have won last year, had it not been for bad breaks.

    Atlanta’s offensive line was dominated by Philly’s D-line, but turnovers were too hard for the Eagles to overcome.

    If they would have made it to the playoffs this year, I bet they would have taken home the Lombardi.

    I’m a Steelers fan, by the way, so I actually hate the Eagles.

  4. 2sausage11 says: Feb 8, 2012 12:10 PM

    But you still have Andy and Juan

  5. AlanSaysYo says: Feb 8, 2012 12:11 PM

    So Eli and Coughlin are confirmed for Canton, but their Super Bowl team was worse than the Eagles. The walls of this site are littered with whatever sticks.

  6. slickster35 says: Feb 8, 2012 12:13 PM

    A: Mike Vick is soft, and easily injured.

    B: Mike Vick isn’t very good, at all.

    C: The Eagles will NEVER win a Super Bowl with Mike Vick at QB. They’d have better luck with Tebow.

  7. cakemixa says: Feb 8, 2012 12:17 PM

    Are the Eagles finally taking the crown away from the Cowboys as the overhyped off-season champs?

  8. hendawg21 says: Feb 8, 2012 12:20 PM

    Get ready Philly you won’t be there next year either…take that to the bank!

  9. brahgothoes says: Feb 8, 2012 12:20 PM

    And with all that being said, they still only beat one team with a winning record. Delusions of being better than they actually are plague this franchise from top to bottom, and until we get that sorted, we can plan on continuing to see parades in other cities.

  10. eaglesnoles05 says: Feb 8, 2012 12:20 PM

    Duh. Either you hate the eagles and think they suck, or you realize that they aren’t really that far off. 38 turnovers make alot of things look worse than they are, I don’t care what team you are.

    The allpro team would be 8-8 (or worse) with 38 turnovers. But would the allpro team be so careless? Nope. Tightenup that ball control, birds. Wins will follow.

  11. eagleviking says: Feb 8, 2012 12:21 PM

    In retrospect, it’s not hard to see why they Eagles struggled. Many new faces, new coaches…and unrealistic expectations. The Giants are a hardnosed team….that cover the basics well…running the ball, solid D-line with the philosophy of getting to the QB with mostly the front four…a solid offensive line…plus very good players in the “skill position.” They have a true “team” approach. The Eagle philosophy of west coast offensive is a great hindrance to them going forward. And, as much I liked Jim Johnson’s style…You live and die by the blitz. Great QB’s make mincemeat out of blitzing teams. I like what the Eagle defense was jelling into at the end of the season. I don’t like Andy Reid’s offense, and until they begin to make running the ball a priority (so the O-Line can establish the line of scrimmage in an offensive way), the Eagles will not win a Super Bowl. Shady McCoy is a GREAT running back…use him. People say that the NFL is passing league. I disagree. As long as you have running backs, then balance is always the way to winning.

  12. johnnyshore says: Feb 8, 2012 12:22 PM

    Yap yap yap. Do we really have to endure another offseason of hearing about how great the Eagles are? Give me a break. They were the Dream Team last year and look what happened. Why don’t we at least wait until they make the playoffs until we start ranting and raving about this unproven team. And let’s not forget, Vick is another year older. I think this team is going to be in dire need of a QB soon. To top it all off, their number 1 receiver is on his way out to free agency. But, congrats to the Eagles, for officially being offseason superstars.

  13. giantlucksacks says: Feb 8, 2012 12:23 PM

    “The Giants were outscored in the regular season.”

    LOL, pathetic. I wonder how many SB champions could ever say that. But then again, none of those SB champions ever get as lucky as the Giants do.

  14. nyjalleffingday says: Feb 8, 2012 12:23 PM

    Philly and the Jets are cursed, man. It’s not easy being green.

  15. swgiblin says: Feb 8, 2012 12:24 PM

    With Vick at the helm, Philly won’t come close to a Super Bowl.

  16. greysolon says: Feb 8, 2012 12:24 PM

    Only in Homerland is any 8-8 team “inches away from being a dominant, dominant team”.

    Anyone unaffected by East Coast Bias can see that the Eagles are just “okay”, that The League has solved Vick, and that they are just another team going into the 2012 season.

  17. cabsf415 says: Feb 8, 2012 12:26 PM

    curious to see who picks up VY. I 100% believe he can still be a starter elsewhere

  18. reasonableeaglefan says: Feb 8, 2012 12:26 PM

    I’m prepared to be frustrated next year

  19. rugdaniels says: Feb 8, 2012 12:26 PM

    I didn’t think we’d see an Eagles story until they crown themselves Super Bowl Champions this August. Maybe the Eagles should stop talking and focus a little more on playing the game. They might find those ‘inches’ that they’ve been searching for.

  20. netherscourge says: Feb 8, 2012 12:27 PM

    No, Trent Cole.

    You were FIVE blown 4th quarter leads away from being a dominant team.

  21. mad55555 says: Feb 8, 2012 12:27 PM

    How about you look up the eagles stats over the andy reid era and you will notice that they are in the top ten 10 out of 13 years but they can not beat the top 2 or 3 teams in the league because of andy reid. I will say one thing…
    They have owned the NJ giants over the past 4 years so they are not really a concern for the eagles. It’s really the afc that the eagles can not beat. Philadelphia Owned, NJ giants, since 2007

  22. phillybirds says: Feb 8, 2012 12:27 PM

    No Trent Cole, the opportunity was blown. Next year will be a completely different team. We’ll lose certain players and who knows about the players we’ll gain? Maybe going .500 in the NFC East wont be good enough in 2012.

  23. realitypolice says: Feb 8, 2012 12:28 PM

    Teams that meet Philly in the regular season should be worried.

    Any team they may meet in the playoffs (if they get there) does not need to worry quite so much.

  24. derekjetersmansion says: Feb 8, 2012 12:29 PM

    The key to me is the offseason. Reid ran tough camps pre-new CBA.

    I just wonder how much the new rules affect that. I mean, he rebuilt the team basically in 1 year when he first got here. He has a lot more talent now.

    I think it’s too easy to play what-if’s about it, but they were 5-1 in the division last year. The problem with that is Castillo basically only beat the teams he knew (Spagnuolo, the division, and the BAL D system). I mean, he knew DAL’s defensive talent better than Rob did.

    Also, another point that gets unmentioned is their schedule last year was rough. 4 of their first 6 were on the road.

  25. bigbluenationdb says: Feb 8, 2012 12:29 PM

    Philly will never win with Vick and Reid. Vick will miss at least four games and he dumb as rocks when it comes to figuring our defenses.

    Reid isn’t smart enough to realize if they give the ball to McCoy at least 25 times. He would rather pass on 2nd IR 3rd and 1.

    I have heard this same story for like 12 years now.

  26. southyank7 says: Feb 8, 2012 12:30 PM

    woulda coulda shoulda & if Steelers were healthy & if SF punt returner didn’t fumble twice and and and close only counts n hand gernades & horseshoes & if lee evens had caught the TD pass & blah blah blah

  27. jesusmhdz says: Feb 8, 2012 12:30 PM

    If the Eagles can stop the turnovers they will be a great contender next year. I hope that Vick works on that this offseason so he can stop those turnovers, if that doesn’t happen then this team will not win a SB with Vick as their QB

  28. godfatherofnj says: Feb 8, 2012 12:30 PM

    It also helps that they came in 3rd place in the NFC East and will be playing much weaker competition this season. Iggles may have a better record but it will only be so because they will have the dregs of the NFL on their schedule

  29. dohpey28 says: Feb 8, 2012 12:31 PM

    Inches from dominance, centimeters from obscurity.

  30. gcsuk says: Feb 8, 2012 12:32 PM

    mad55555 says: Feb 8, 2012 12:27 PM
    I will say one thing…
    They have owned the NJ giants over the past 4 years so they are not really a concern for the eagles. It’s really the afc that the eagles can not beat. Philadelphia Owned, NJ giants, since 2007
    —————————————————————–

    Whatever helps you get through the day, buddy. How about “Lombardi Trophy – Giants Owned, 2 of the Last 4 Years”?

  31. jh500 says: Feb 8, 2012 12:34 PM

    Vick is going to have his first off season since 06, and he has a much better work ethic than he had back then. The players they signed last summer will also have a proper off season. Defense started to click at the end of the season and Todd Bowles won’t misuse the corner backs like that other bozo did. I think they are due for a monster year.

  32. fittytuckin says: Feb 8, 2012 12:35 PM

    I loved watching this team line up in the “wide 9″ on 3rd and inches.

  33. haileli says: Feb 8, 2012 12:39 PM

    It’s all on Vick. Can he stay healthy? Will he put in the work? Can he be consistent? And perhaps, most important of all, can he be clutch? If the Giants proved anything this year, it’s that regular season performance becomes irrelevant once you’re in the playoffs. If they get in as a 9-7 team, anything can happen. But do you trust Vick to pull an Eli? I don’t.

  34. jakek2 says: Feb 8, 2012 12:42 PM

    Frankly, I am a bit surprised that Trent didn’t repeat Eagles’ fans yearly refrain.

    “So what you won last year! That was sooo two days ago! What have you done lately?”

  35. jbcommonsense says: Feb 8, 2012 12:43 PM

    Coulda, woulda, shoulda.

  36. nypd1056 says: Feb 8, 2012 12:44 PM

    The eagles might have ownes the GIANTS, but we own FOUR SUPER BOWN TROPHIES. Crash eagles crash, on the way to defeat after defeat.

  37. jenniferxxx says: Feb 8, 2012 12:45 PM

    The Eagles do great in the NFC East. Their teams are always ‘purpose built’ for that above all else. But unfortunately they shoot their bolt there every season. That’s their priority … not the post season and certainly not Superbowls.

  38. sj39 says: Feb 8, 2012 12:45 PM

    The Eagles will never win a Super Bowl with Vick and Reid can forget about pawning him off on some dumb team like the Redskins or Cardinals.

  39. caeser12 says: Feb 8, 2012 12:46 PM

    Yea,

    And if if was a spliff then we could all get effed up.

    Could’ve, would’ve, should’ve.

    Let my Giants enjoy their championship.

  40. jakek2 says: Feb 8, 2012 12:47 PM

    eaglesnoles05 says:
    Feb 8, 2012 12:20 PM

    Duh. Either you hate the eagles and think they suck, or you realize that they aren’t really that far off. 38 turnovers make alot of things look worse than they are, I don’t care what team you are.
    ———–
    This is why Giants’ fans hate you all and think that you are all a merry band of hypocrites. Weren’t you the ones saying how bad Eli sucked last year following his 25 int season? Now, since its the Eagles with 38 TOs, it make things look worse than they are? So, which is it? You’re all fools! HA HA!

    ps. Can you post your trophy case on craigslist already? Ours is overflowing and we can put yours to good use.

  41. baldeaglejohnie says: Feb 8, 2012 12:47 PM

    yep the division was called the NFC least in early OCT. and yet it produced another SB winner. sure I”m an Eagle fan but we did go 5-1 in the division and Gmen fans know that it is always a war when we play. I have a lot of respect for the Giants, none for the girls! if you know FB and your not an Eagle fan you should think it will be a tough game if your playing against us next year, that’s a no brainer. just look at what Vegas has already for odds. first the Pats are the fav to win next year , followed by the Steelers and Eagles tied for second fav to win it all next year. follow the money if you don’t know!

  42. giantlucksacks says: Feb 8, 2012 12:48 PM

    ammarradhi says:
    Feb 8, 2012 12:07 PM
    He better get used to it, the Giants are young enough team to win 3 or 4 more super bowls in the next few years.

    ____________________________

    LOL, sure buddy. Giants are a dynasty. That’s why you went 9-7, got outscored, lost to the Skins twice, were bottom of the league in rushing and pass defense, and only won (AGAIN) cause you got every conceivable break (AGAIN) over 3 weeks.

    Other than the 2 MIRACLE runs, the Giants have won ZERO playoff games since 2000.

    If the Giants have a horseshoe lodged up their a$$ again in the next few years, maybe they’ve got a shot.

  43. teejayp says: Feb 8, 2012 12:49 PM

    It also helps that they came in 3rd place in the NFC East and will be playing much weaker competition this season. Iggles may have a better record but it will only be so because they will have the dregs of the NFL on their schedule

    ________________________

    The Eagles finished in 2nd and will play a pretty tough schedule,

  44. sdffa11 says: Feb 8, 2012 12:50 PM

    trent cole is one of my favorite eagles but he and the team needs to drop the “we’re so talented” attitude.

    if the eagles were so talented, they would have won more than 8 games. if they were so talented, they wouldnt have started 1-4 and blown all those late game leads.

    to trent and all the eagles, stop acting like you’re so damn good. prove it on the field if you want the respect of other teams.

  45. gmen5280 says: Feb 8, 2012 12:50 PM

    Football is a game of inches and the Eagles are 10 yards short. Phillys front office must be channeling the Cowboys GM. They think their current QB can win them a Super Bowl.

    If Reid continues to miss use McCoy, they might as well trade him away. Personally I would love to see him in Big Blue.

  46. tbpdog says: Feb 8, 2012 12:51 PM

    @jh500

    yes, Vick’s new and improved work ethic was on full display this past season when the Eagles players only set up off-season workouts after the media started complaining about the lack of, and then after a day or so he quit showing up, then the rest of the team followed suit……..some work ethic

  47. miked9278 says: Feb 8, 2012 12:51 PM

    They padded their stats with the last 4 games of the season. They beat a floundering jets team, bad miami team which lost its starting qb and lt, dallas backups, and a pathetic redskins team that had the bags packed up for the offseason. This is exactly what plagued them last year. They wanted to tell everyone how good they were instead of proving it. Shut up and train throughout the offseason and earn your respect. This is by far the most un-likeable eagles team ever.

  48. hardoguy says: Feb 8, 2012 12:53 PM

    I think Vick’s durability issues will always haunt Philly. Everyone knows he’s one hit away from being out for 3-4 games at a clip.

    Explosive? You bet. Too much hype? Always.

  49. drbob117 says: Feb 8, 2012 12:56 PM

    If Trent Cole wants to know why the Eagles stink, all he has to do is turn around and look at the back 7. Their errors, plus those of the offense, which either scores or commits a costly turnover on nearly every possession (P Chaz Henry didn’t get much work), doomed the Eagles. Maybe next year, the Eagles will have S and LB’s that can play, and they’ll stop making crazy mistakes on offense, but I’m not holding my breath. I’m a diehard Eagles fan, but you know the old saying…fool me once, shame on you; fool me 14 times, shame on me.

  50. jrod691 says: Feb 8, 2012 12:56 PM

    “The four teams in the NFC East have won 12 coming Super Bowls following the Giants’ win on Sunday.”
    —————————————————-

    Am I the only one who cannot understand this sentence no matter how many times I read it?

    Is he trying to say that the NFC East teams have claimed they will win the next 12 upcoming Super Bowls?

    Ok, I’m done trying to figure it out, my brain is hurting.

  51. rexadelphia8 says: Feb 8, 2012 12:58 PM

    Giants got there bc of the eagles beating Dallas , that’s the only reason

  52. delshofner says: Feb 8, 2012 12:59 PM

    Teams and especially their fans have got to stop playing their “football” on paper, and in the off-season. I’m looking at you WAS, DAL and PHI.

    It’s played on the field, in real games, and mostly in the Play-Offs. So stop with the talk of “we’re really better than who won”. Who won is who won. You are what the Lombardi Trophy says you are, to paraphrase a Tuna.

  53. rogerbrad says: Feb 8, 2012 1:00 PM

    Only two teams were in the top ten of scoring offense and defense: Houston and Philadelphia. Teams should be worried about Philly next year.
    ————————————–

    It’s funny to me, there was no mention in any of the comments about Houston.

    GO TEXANS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  54. inthearex says: Feb 8, 2012 1:00 PM

    Love the giants hate. Keep bringing as I come down off cloud 9 from that awesome super bowl parade yesterday. Eagles fans know what that super bowl parade is all about… Oh… Wait. Keep winning your preseason superbowls ( which apparently starts immediately now ) and I’ll keep going to our parades. Hopefully Vick watched the puppy bowl so he could start his recruiting process.

  55. ham1 says: Feb 8, 2012 1:03 PM

    “if Philadelphia watches another Super Bowl parade in other city next year.” ????

    If ? Guaranteed they will be watching again.

    BTW its good to see mad555 come out in the offseason. Wasnt there all year when the egirls kept nose diving. Couldnt be found. Now its the offseason and time to ramp up those bejabbers for somemore false bravado huh egirl?

  56. haileli says: Feb 8, 2012 1:04 PM

    “LOL, sure buddy. Giants are a dynasty. That’s why you went 9-7, got outscored, lost to the Skins twice, were bottom of the league in rushing and pass defense, and only won (AGAIN) cause you got every conceivable break (AGAIN) over 3 weeks.

    Other than the 2 MIRACLE runs, the Giants have won ZERO playoff games since 2000.

    If the Giants have a horseshoe lodged up their a$$ again in the next few years, maybe they’ve got a shot.

    Every conceivable break? Did you watch the Packers game and notice all the bad calls? Did they not draw Rodgers AND Brady? What breaks did they get when they beat the Packers by 17 points? Did they not lead the league in games missed by starters (68)? Did you notice that they had 10 players on injured reserve? Oh yeah, and they had the hardest schedule in the league.

    Typical hater.

  57. flyingitalian says: Feb 8, 2012 1:04 PM

    I mean seriously is that not poetic justice? Eagles players and fans run their mouths about their supremacy before a game is played (especially after they sign Steve Smith) and in the end the Giants win Lombardi trophy #4.

    Can you Eagles fans fully appreciate how damn hilarious that is?

  58. edelmanfanclub says: Feb 8, 2012 1:04 PM

    Im worried hes gonna judo flip one of our guys that block him.

  59. eaglesfanalways says: Feb 8, 2012 1:05 PM

    I team with the most talent isn’t always the one that wins the Super Bowl…I think any time a lesser team (like the Giants) can win a championship is a reflection on the quality of the character of the organization and the team. That being said, what can I take from the fact that the Eagles have been favored in 4 out of the 5 championship games they have played in, but only came away with one win. By the way, Vick is not good enough to lead the Eagles to a Super Bowl win – it was an idiotic move on the Eagles part to sign him. Good for selling tickets and jerseys, bad for winning a title.

  60. raymondtx says: Feb 8, 2012 1:06 PM

    Teams should be worried about the Texans, not the damn Eagles. The giants and cowboys always have, and always will own them. Google it.

  61. drewzducks says: Feb 8, 2012 1:07 PM

    Hey gcsuk…agree with you about G-Men…better team won…as a Pats fan I’d much rather go 9-7 every year and win the big one than have another 16-0 or 13-3 season but crumble when it counts most…however I think the Steelers, Saints and Packers would disagree with your 2 out of 4 statement

  62. gixrider says: Feb 8, 2012 1:10 PM

    Cowboys 5 Lombardi’s
    Giants 4
    Redskins 3
    Eagles…..0

    Thats a tough neighborhood. The Eagles could win the next three super bowls and STILL be tied for last place in the division!

  63. quittsburghstoolers says: Feb 8, 2012 1:17 PM

    “Trent Cole has a point”

    ———————————————————-

    Yes, he does.

    You just can’t see it because he’s wearing a helmet…

  64. 2sausage11 says: Feb 8, 2012 1:20 PM

    nypd1056 says:
    Feb 8, 2012 12:44 PM
    The eagles might have ownes the GIANTS, but we own FOUR SUPER BOWN TROPHIES. Crash eagles crash, on the way to defeat after defeat.

    ===========================
    Is that like a dog BOWN

  65. souljalb says: Feb 8, 2012 1:21 PM

    I like that we haven’t won ANY Superbowl’s in the team’s history and still feared. It’s awesome

  66. tuckyous says: Feb 8, 2012 1:22 PM

    giantlucksacks says: Feb 8, 2012 12:48 PM

    LOL, sure buddy. Giants are a dynasty. That’s why you went 9-7, got outscored, lost to the Skins twice, were bottom of the league in rushing and pass defense, and only won (AGAIN) cause you got every conceivable break (AGAIN) over 3 weeks.

    Other than the 2 MIRACLE runs, the Giants have won ZERO playoff games since 2000.

    If the Giants have a horseshoe lodged up their a$$ again in the next few years, maybe they’ve got a shot.

    Granted, the comment you are responding to is very poorly phrased/slightly delusional, but those 2 ‘miracle runs’ resulted in Lombardi’s. Doesn’t matter how you cut, who or what was lucky, etc. Call it what you want, but be sure to look at the scoreboard while you run your mouth. This years ‘miracle run’ happened after they couldn’t catch a break all year. They did without a starting CB (Thomas), MLB (Goff), LT (Beatty), KR (Hixon), and possible starter at SLB (Sintim). So factoring in those guys returning from injuries and our young guys getting better, it is not inconceivable to say that the Giants COULD win another Super Bowl or two in the next few years. So could the Seahawks for that matter. The only sure thing is that it won’t be the Eagles.

  67. inthearex says: Feb 8, 2012 1:22 PM

    I know the only thing you egirls fans can hang your collective hat on is that you have the most talented team. I don’t understand how you guys still think you’re the most talented team. Assamuah and drc were highly overrated. You have no linebackers or safeties. D-line is solid but not as dominant as the giants line. DeSean is a girl, o-line is garbage outside of peters and the only people on this squad worth talking about are McCoy Maclin and celek. Vick is the most overrated and overhyped POS in the nfl.

  68. tinkletinkleonyourstar says: Feb 8, 2012 1:24 PM

    mad5555 says…
    They have owned the NJ giants over the past 4 years so they are not really a concern for the eagles. It’s really the afc that the eagles can not beat. Philadelphia Owned, NJ giants, since 2007

    _________________________________

    whatever helps you sleep man!

  69. giantlucksacks says: Feb 8, 2012 1:27 PM

    haileli says:
    Feb 8, 2012 1:04 PM

    Every conceivable break? Did you watch the Packers game and notice all the bad calls? Did they not draw Rodgers AND Brady? What breaks did they get when they beat the Packers by 17 points? Did they not lead the league in games missed by starters (68)? Did you notice that they had 10 players on injured reserve? Oh yeah, and they had the hardest schedule in the league.

    _____________________________

    Yup, I watched the Packers game, and i saw ONE bad call. I also saw Aaron Rodgers miss wide open WRs for TDs, I saw the Giants recover all 3 fumbles, I saw GB drop about 10 balls, and I saw the Giants complete a Hail Mary TD.

    Then I watched the Giants beat the 49ers because Ted Ginn was hurt and his backup handed them 10 points in the 4th quarter and OT. Again, the Giants recovered 3 fumbles and got the benefit of a questionable call (Bradshaw fumble) that would have virtually ended the game.

    Then I watched them beat the Patriots because Wes Welker dropped a pass. Also because they recovered 2 more huge fumbles. And Gronk was hurt which most likely affected the long INT pass AND the Hail Mary.

    In the last 3 games, the Giants recovered EIGHT fumbles and lost ZERO.

    In the last 2 super bowls, the Giants recovered FIVE fumbles and lost ZERO.

    The Giants have won 7 of their last 11 playoff games on the last play/last minute of the game.

    Then there’s Favre, Samuel, Tyree, Craig, Norwood…..

    Soooo, yeah, I’d call that luck.

  70. jakek2 says: Feb 8, 2012 1:31 PM

    mad55555 says:
    Feb 8, 2012 12:27 PM

    They have owned the NJ giants over the past 4 years so they are not really a concern for the eagles. It’s really the afc that the eagles can not beat. Philadelphia Owned, NJ giants, since 2007
    ——————-
    Allow me to show you how this logic fails. It is basically: if A=B and B=C then A=C.

    If Philly owns us since 07′, and we own 2 SB titles since 07′, then Phi must also own 2 SB titles since 07′. LOGIC FAIL. Class…does anyone know why? Please raise your hands!

  71. wferg1121 says: Feb 8, 2012 1:33 PM

    @giantlucksucks:
    Other than the 2 MIRACLE runs, the Giants have won ZERO playoff games since 2000.

    I rather have 2 miracle runs to WIN the superbowl than no runs at all. Every superbowl winning team needs a little luck, New England Tuck rule, FG/ dropped TD. Pittsburg, the Seattle game. The Giants convincingly beat Atlanta and Green Bay, despite bad calls that lead to scores for Green Bay. It’s not the Giants fault that Green Bay’s reciever decided not to show up or San Francisco returner decided this was the day he was going to fumble. The Giants showed up and played!

  72. bleedgreen says: Feb 8, 2012 1:34 PM

    brahgothoes says: Feb 8, 2012 12:20 PM

    And with all that being said, they still only beat one team with a winning record. Delusions of being better than they actually are plague this franchise from top to bottom, and until we get that sorted, we can plan on continuing to see parades in other cities.

    —————————-

    The Giants had the same schedule minus 2 teams, which the Giants lost both of those (GB and NO). The Eagles played CHI and ATL, and also lost both.

    So the Eagles and Giants regular season was separated by 1 win. The Giants also only beat 1 team with a winning record this year. The Pats.

  73. wicky888 says: Feb 8, 2012 1:34 PM

    Eagles 2012 opponents:
    Giants 2x
    Cowboys 2s
    Redskins 2x
    Ravens
    Steelers
    Bengals
    Browns
    Falcons
    Saints
    Panthers
    Bucs
    Lions
    Cardinals

    7 2011 playoff teams on that list

  74. nickynick04 says: Feb 8, 2012 1:35 PM

    I believe the Giants Packers, Saints & 49ers are not afraid or worried about the self proclaimed Dreamteam…or loudmouth players…..who is Trent Cole anyway….l

  75. bhindenemylines says: Feb 8, 2012 1:36 PM

    “Those numbers speak to the fact that the Eagles underachieved last year. But the pieces are in place to be a contending team.”

    The only number that really matter is winning a championship.

    And 12-26-1950 was a long time ago.

  76. coltfan1984 says: Feb 8, 2012 1:37 PM

    They will never achieve what they should with Vick at QB. He is fun to watch, but is not capable of getting them to championships.

  77. dallassux says: Feb 8, 2012 1:37 PM

    @jajek2

    This is why Giants’ fans hate you all and think that you are all a merry band of hypocrites. Weren’t you the ones saying how bad Eli sucked last year following his 25 int season? Now, since its the Eagles with 38 TOs, it make things look worse than they are? So, which is it? You’re all fools! HA HA!

    ———————————————————————————
    Pot meet kettle? Weren’t all giants fans saying Eli sucked in 07 after that 4 pick performance agaisnt MINN? Yep booed off the field.
    Weren’t they also ripping “killdrive” this year. Also 8 weeks ago they wanted coughlin gone! Nice try hypocrite. Thats why people hate new Yorkers. Not the giants.

    Now you dopey fans are running Melo and Amare out of town. Frauds! Get a clue

  78. sudz28 says: Feb 8, 2012 1:39 PM

    @eagleswoot:“The Eagles were a Ronnie Brown fumble away from pushing the Giants out of the playoffs. Deal with it.”

    Right. And the Steelers were one missed kick away, and the Ravens were one dropped pass away, and the 49ers were one (two?) muffed punts away, and…

  79. johntonioholmes says: Feb 8, 2012 1:49 PM

    jakek2

    I love logic. Unfortunately, your logic doesn’t work.

    Not a fan of the Eagles–I actually root for the Giants in the NFC East because I also hate the Cowboys.

    But it must be established that B leads to C before A can lead to C.

    In other words, team A owning team B does not suppose that team A also owns all of the wins that team B owns.

    The logic should follow like this:

    If the Eagles own the Giants,

    And the Giants have won 2 superbowls since 2007,

    Then the Eagles have never played the Giants in the playoffs when they have won their superbowls.

    In fact, Philly dominated the Giants in the 2008 playoffs only to lose to the Cards in the next round.

    Alternatively, you could conclude that the Eagles own the Giants, but do not own any other teams.

    In reality, football is a game of odds, which makes sports predictions much more conducive to inductive reasoning.

    Deductive syllogism is entirely inapplicable in the realm of sports because any team can win on any given day.

    If syllogism had any role in determining the outcome of a game, then why could the worst quarterback in the league torch the best pass defense in the league? (See Denver v. Pitt).

  80. tigrrrr says: Feb 8, 2012 1:52 PM

    Eagles will never win a SB with vick there…probably going to be tough evenbifvhe wasnt there with reid calling the shots!
    Vick get out of our NFL, you loser!!

  81. blu4l1fe says: Feb 8, 2012 1:59 PM

    I don’t think there is any problem with what Cole said. Regardless if people believe he has a point or not, it is his opinion based on what he thinks his and his team’s chances would be. Everyone, at some point is asked this same question in the off season and answers it either politically correct or makes a statement like Cole did.

    Every team, either based or not based on how they performed in the last season will say something to this effect. Bottom line is, it doesn’t really matter if at the end of the day, or more specifically, the end of next season, the Eagles are home once again, watching someone else play in the Super Bowl.

  82. jh500 says: Feb 8, 2012 2:00 PM

    coltfan1984 says: Feb 8, 2012 1:37 PM

    They will never achieve what they should with Vick at QB. He is fun to watch, but is not capable of getting them to championships.
    ___________________________________

    Vick, with a terrible work ethic, was good enough to carry a hopeless Falcons team to the NFC championship with just a fat tight end. Let’s not get carried away. He has the talent to win a SB, period. The problem is if can remain healthy.

  83. pixelito says: Feb 8, 2012 2:03 PM

    The dominant teams from the regular season never win Championships anymore. The playoffs are a wild-card team tournament now. It’s almost better not to win the division and get the bye.

    So let the Eagles talk about playoff appearances and regular season dominance, we’ll just keep brining home rings to NY.

  84. haileli says: Feb 8, 2012 2:06 PM

    @giantsluck,

    You only saw ONE missed call in the Packers game? Then you, my friend, were not paying attention.

    The Giants beat the 49ers because of Kyle Williams? False! Might their blanketing of the receivers had anything to do with it? Again, typical hater: isolate one or two variables, claim it was the sole reason for victory, ignore the winning team’s strong plays in the game, and then cough it up to luck.

    The Patriots did not lose because of the Welker drop. Want to know why they lost? Because the offense choked. They averaged 32 PPG in the regular season…and only scored 17 in the Super Bowl. In 2007, they averaged 36 PPG, and only scored 14. You’re not going to give *any* credit to the defense? You’re just going to cough it up to luck? You also again failed to address the Giants injuries, but list Gronkowski’s as one of the reasons the Patriots lost. Hypocrite much?

    As for the fumble recoveries: that’s because of situational awareness and, yes, a little luck. Did those balls defy the laws of physics and somehow magically bounce into the arms of a Giants player? Nope. The Pats could’ve recovered, and didn’t.

    Speaking of winning Super Bowls on the last play, remember when the Patriots won by a field goal in all 3 of their wins? Vinatieri sealed it all 3 times. Cundiff misses a chip shot to send them to the big game this year. Were they also “lucky.”

    Face it, you make your own luck. You can’t stand the Giants and the fact that they won a title. Again. It’s sad.

    Back to you, hater.

  85. tuckyous says: Feb 8, 2012 2:09 PM

    Yo @giantlucksacks

    Seriously, dude? You’re a broken record. Then again, I’d be pissed too if my team NEVER won a Super Bowl, took a crappy OL coach and made him our DC, signed nearly every major FA on the market, and still couldn’t make the playoffs. Any team winning the Super Bowl has luck behind them. It’s why championships aren’t built on paper.

  86. haileli says: Feb 8, 2012 2:11 PM

    Might I also as, giantslucksacks, which team you root for? I’m sure that that your favorite team has never been the beneficiary of a little luck, or is not a hated rival of the Giants.

  87. jakek2 says: Feb 8, 2012 2:12 PM

    bleedgreen – The Giants beat more than 1 team with a winning record. They beat NE 2x, GB, ATL and SF…who are a combined 54-15. During the reg season, they beat mostly 8-8 teams (who would have been over .500 if the Giants lost to them). The only Patsies (n.p.i.) that they beat were Miami and St. Louis. They actually beat the Bills when the Bills were 4-1 and the media was talking about them being a potential playoff team. Looking at it a different way, out of the Giants 13 total wins, 10 came vs. teams .500 or better.

  88. bradwins says: Feb 8, 2012 2:13 PM

    Where is “Other City”?

  89. jakek2 says: Feb 8, 2012 2:17 PM

    dallassux says:
    Feb 8, 2012 1:37 PM
    @jajek2

    This is why Giants’ fans hate you all and think that you are all a merry band of hypocrites. Weren’t you the ones saying how bad Eli sucked last year following his 25 int season? Now, since its the Eagles with 38 TOs, it make things look worse than they are? So, which is it? You’re all fools! HA HA!

    ———————————————————————————
    Pot meet kettle? Weren’t all giants fans saying Eli sucked in 07 after that 4 pick performance agaisnt MINN? Yep booed off the field.
    Weren’t they also ripping “killdrive” this year. Also 8 weeks ago they wanted coughlin gone! Nice try hypocrite. Thats why people hate new Yorkers. Not the giants.

    Now you dopey fans are running Melo and Amare out of town. Frauds! Get a clue
    ———————
    Dallassux – You must have missed school the day they taught what “pot meet kettle” means. I agree that NY fans are fickle but that wasn’t my point. My point was that Eagles’ fans use a stat to spew hate on a player but then explain that exact same stat away as no big deal. That is hypocrisy not being fickle. Nice try though.

  90. deathmonkey41 says: Feb 8, 2012 2:18 PM

    I think the Eagles took those inches they were away from being dominant and added them to Andy Reid’s waist.

  91. eaglesnoles05 says: Feb 8, 2012 2:20 PM

    @jake – what? Dude, Eli did suck, as did eagles, with all those turnovers. Where’s the hypocrisy? Do you even know the definition?
    @dallasusx- word up.

    Man, lol, that eagles schedule looks BRUTAL for an 8-8 team. Get to work, Andy. You better add about 150lbs to the LB corps for that run.

  92. jakek2 says: Feb 8, 2012 2:23 PM

    johntonioholmes – You’re right. My A=B=C logic doesn’t work. I was just having some fun with Eagles fans. As a Giants’ fan, I fully admit that the Eagles have owned us since Plax shot himself. Indeed, I can actually thank Eagles fans now for Miracle II. Without the Eagles’ crowning achievement as a franchise, we’d still have Dodge and not Weatherford who was a beast punter for us this year.

  93. blu4l1fe says: Feb 8, 2012 2:29 PM

    Aside for being in the same division, I really don’t see (maybe refuse to see) why Eagles fans love to compare the Eagles with the Giants. Or as one said above, “the Eagles OWN the Giants since 2007!”

    But if we’re going to compare the two teams, and sorry to break it to you, the Giants have 2 SB rings since 07 (one they got this year, last Sunday, as a matter of fact) versus to the Eagles 0.

    So if it really makes you feel better, I’ll say it with you, the Eagles own the Giants since 2007. I know it makes me feel better to know and watch the Giants play in 5 Super Bowl and win 4 of them.

  94. bleed4philly says: Feb 8, 2012 2:39 PM

    But of course we’ll find some way to blow it, like always.

  95. dolphins4 says: Feb 8, 2012 2:45 PM

    Trent Cole and everybody like him ought to learn to keep their mouths shut and go out and prove it on the field.

  96. sdffa11 says: Feb 8, 2012 2:56 PM

    johntonioholmes says:
    Feb 8, 2012 12:08 PM
    Philly has no linebackers and has average D tackles.

    “average” def tackles? thanks for showing everyone the stupidity of steeler fans.

    i doubt anyone else considers cullen jenkins and mike patterson average ded tackles. theyre only average compared to studs like ngata and wilfork but the eagles have better def tackles than 4/5 of the teams in the NFL.

  97. gobigblue310 says: Feb 8, 2012 3:00 PM

    Almost only counts in horse shoes and hand grenades. Were world champs… Again. Trents trophy case is still empty. I’m sure next year Big Blue will be picked to finish behind at least Dallas and Philly… Again. We kinda like it that way. WORLD CHAMPIONS!!!!!!!!!!!!

  98. greysolon says: Feb 8, 2012 3:03 PM

    wicky888 says:
    Feb 8, 2012 1:34 PM
    Eagles 2012 opponents:
    Giants 2x
    Cowboys 2s
    Redskins 2x
    Ravens
    Steelers
    Bengals
    Browns
    Falcons
    Saints
    Panthers
    Bucs
    Lions
    Cardinals

    In the immortal words of Scooby Do… “Ruh roh!”

    Figure a split with the other NFC East teams– that’s 3 losses. 3 more losses in the games against the AFC central. L’s to the Saints and maybe the Falcons. Split the rest. That’s 9 or 10 or even 11 losses.

    At least Eagle fan can take solace in a top 10 draft pick in ’14.

  99. giantlucksacks says: Feb 8, 2012 3:04 PM

    tuckyous says:
    Feb 8, 2012 2:09 PM
    Yo @giantlucksacks

    __________________

    LOL what on earth makes you think I’m an Eagles fan? I hate the Eagles.

    haileli says:
    Feb 8, 2012 2:11 PM
    _____________________

    No one, and I mean NO ONE has gotten as much luck in their favor as the Giants have in their last 3 SB runs. PERIOD.

    haileli says:
    Feb 8, 2012 2:06 PM
    _____________________

    Oh yeah, and I forgot about the 3 passes Eli threw in the 49er game that SHOULD have been picked – 2 because BOTH dbacks ran into each other trying to pick it off, one that would have been a pick6 if Rogers head was turned around. Nobody throws bad passes off his back foot into double coverage like Eli Manning!

    You cannot explain 8 fumbles to ZERO as anything but freak luck. Its a statistical improbability. Its nearly impossible. And they happened at the most oppurtune time for the Giants, in the 49ers game, and the Pats recovery on their own 10 yard line would likely have ended it.

    You don’t think the 49ers had a strong game against NY? Dude, bottom line, if Ginn plays/Williams doesnt fumble TWICE, Giants lose the game.

    Who was injured for the Giants in the SB that has nearly as much of an impact as Gronk? Or Ginn?

    The Giants scored 19 points on offense and 6 of them were intentional. You think that’s overly amazing?

    The Pats SB, the kicks broke ties. At worst, they were going to OT. Same with the Cundiff kick.

    NY has gotten every perfect bounce at every perfect time to win games they otherwise would have lost.

  100. jakek2 says: Feb 8, 2012 3:14 PM

    haileli – you forgot to mention that it was pure luck the Giants held SF to a fat 0-fer on 3rd downs.

  101. lilrob10201 says: Feb 8, 2012 3:21 PM

    The Eagles can be inches from a very dominant team.Look at the 49ers for an example.

  102. cliffordc05 says: Feb 8, 2012 3:32 PM

    I just watched the Imaginary Super Bowl on Monday and the Eagles won. Trent Cole had four sacks, five hurries, and twelve unassisted tackles. Great game, great season, and a load of crap.

  103. jakek2 says: Feb 8, 2012 3:35 PM

    Who was injured for the Giants in the SB that has nearly as much of an impact as Gronk? Or Ginn?
    ————
    @giantlucksacks – Here’s where you got greedy. Half of their defense is on IR.

    Seriously though…As a long time Giants’ fan, I am aware that they have caught some bounces along the way. However, for every bounce they caught, I can name you an equal amount of bad luck that went the other way.

    1) Landeta whiffing on punt in wind vs. the 85′ Bears in the Div. Rd. that basically flipped the game.

    2) A 15-1 SF team losing to the Rams on purpose to keep us out of the playoffs in 88′

    3) Flipper Anderson in 89′

    4) Vikings in 97′ (losing after up 9 with 2 mins left…onsides kick)

    5) SF in 02′ – No pass interference called on last second FG att.

    6) 08′ Plax shooting hole in our destined repeat. Make no mistake, we would have repeated. Eagles beat NY in the playoffs because our no. 1 WR was a KR. Eagles admitted that no-Plax changed that game. Then, WE would have hosted AZ (who lost 2 weeks prior at NE by 40 pts) and have beaten Pitt (who we already beat that season IN PITT).

    Yeah…these aren’t the type of in-game lucky bounces you speak of. Nonetheless, calling the Giants’ a lucky franchise is not wholly accurate.

  104. dinobullfrog says: Feb 8, 2012 3:38 PM

    you giant are amazing.

    We are a top franchise in the NFL and have 4 Super Bowls to provide and have 4 in the last 25 years.

    That’s 16% percent of the time!

    Please get one Eagles FANS and then talk!

  105. greysolon says: Feb 8, 2012 3:44 PM

    “Missed it by that much

    —Maxwell Smart

  106. dragonfly99 says: Feb 8, 2012 3:50 PM

    The Eagles will throw a lot of money at free agents again in their attempt to buy a championship but as long as they have Reid and Vick they won’t have a chance. What Eagle fans do have to look forward to is 13 more years of Andy Reid.

  107. johntonioholmes says: Feb 8, 2012 3:58 PM

    jakek2

    I got ya. I was also just having some fun as well.

    I wanted to pull that spiel out on Ravens fans who said that because the Ravens beat the Steelers and the Steelers beat the Pats that the Ravens should also beat the Pats.

    There’s no logic in football. And fortunately (after my team exited early from the playoffs) the best case scenario happened for me–the Giants beat the Pats.

    I didn’t want either Harbaugh playing in the Super Bowl and I didn’t want a Pats win, so the Giants bailed me out…just like they did in 2007.

    But I would be worried about the Eagles. Vick is certainly overrated, but Andy Reid is not–he knows how to run an offense that puts points on the board.

    If the Eagle take care of the ball and get better linebacker play, they will be a force, and I think they would have went all of the way if they made it to the playoffs.

  108. haileli says: Feb 8, 2012 4:06 PM

    And, once again, giantslucksacks refuses to address anything that goes against him. You are a troll, plain and simple. You are so jealous of the Giants that your username revolves around them. I fully expect to see you whining and complaining on other Giants boards.

    Learn how to debate.

  109. lbdpatch says: Feb 8, 2012 4:07 PM

    Eagles 2012 will dominate the NFL. All you haters can bet on It. And by the looks of our 2012 schedule the Eagles should go 15/1 and the one being the saints.

  110. upperdecker19 says: Feb 8, 2012 4:31 PM

    Juan-derful

  111. mhalt99 says: Feb 8, 2012 4:56 PM

    Our linebackers will be ready by the super bowl!!!!!!

    Special thank you to Rex Ryan for taking away most of the headlines from our delusions this year.

    I will say this though…..we have the best run blocking cornerbacks in the NFL and our safeties are all pro pass blockers. Thank you mr castillo

  112. st0n3r78 says: Feb 8, 2012 5:05 PM

    I hope you realize that Philadelphia has NY’s # and owns like 85% wins over the past 5 years. Division wise Philly owns, they tend to lose a lot of AFC games and games that should be easy wins.

  113. judsonjr says: Feb 8, 2012 5:19 PM

    The Giants were lucky this year down the stretch when it came to recovering fumbles. Manning’s post season play was also pretty overated. He was top notch in the Super Bowl but was mediocre at best in the 2nd half vs. GB and SF. The scoring in the 2nd half of those games was pretty much gift wrapped due to turnovers in very good field position. There were a number of times where the Giants had very good field position (around midfield) and failed to score).

    I don’t see why Giants fans are taking this so personally. I am a Packer fan and can recall the breaks they got last year. David Akers missing two easy FG in the playoffs. Rodgers having a mediocre game versus Chicago but being bailed out by the defense. Seriously how often is Sam Shields going to get 2 picks, a sack, and a forced fumble.

    Going back further, the Giants Packers game in 2010 only became a blowout when Jacobs fumbled near the sideline and the ball magically stayed in bounds. NY burned their last challenge on it, lost, and then had to live with a bad call on an INT later when they were out of challenges.

    Likewise the Packers were pretty mediocre against the Jets early in the year, but dropped passes and a couple controversial turnovers let them eek out a 9-0 win.

    It doesn’t help that the press is extremely hot/cold about how players and teams perform. Much of that comes strictly from a lot of analysis being based on just the W/L record and a couple memorable plays in a game. In a win you’ll see a 20-40, 240 yard, 0 TD performance being credited in the press as “clutch”,”doing enough to win”, or “gritty”. Conversely you can see a 30-40, 350 yard, 3 TD game being called a choke by the QB after he loses a late fumble when he gets drilled by an unblocked man and throws an INT that is tipped by a WR and then picked.

  114. lakedog19352 says: Feb 8, 2012 5:43 PM

    So what? My Cowboys lost 5 games they could have won, and won 4 games they could have lost. Now I ask you, are they inches away from being a dominant team or inches away from completely sucking?

  115. chocolatebaconbutter says: Feb 8, 2012 5:45 PM

    My God, 3 days after the Super Bowl and Eagles players and fans are already crowning themselves champions of the upcoming year. Oh geez. I hope the Giants have their ring ceremony when the Dream Team comes to town.

  116. brian32556 says: Feb 8, 2012 5:48 PM

    Quote facts and figures all you want, its RESULTS that count. Giants 4, Eagles 0.

  117. jakek2 says: Feb 8, 2012 5:54 PM

    I love this argument. “Eli only scored 19 points against the worst defense and didn’t light any one up in the playoffs”.

    Here’s where Reid can learn a thing or two from Coughlin. You coach the game as the game unfolds. You don’t stick to your script if the game does not develop the way you thought it would. When TC saw that his defense was stout, he played to that strength. He played field position and didn’t take risks. If it was 3rd and 10, he didn’t immediately call a Madden play that would go for 20. If Eli saw that he could only get 5 yards, he took it, punted, trusted his defense and waited around until his opponent panicked. See Atlanta going for a million 4th downs, GB not running the ball, SF fumbling punts, Brady throwing deep hail maries to crippled tight ends.

  118. raiders757 says: Feb 8, 2012 5:58 PM

    Once again, they’re not going anywhere until they get a REAL NFL QB.

  119. oldbyrd says: Feb 8, 2012 7:03 PM

    As long as their is the Laurel and Hardy show “Laurie and Reid” we are doomed . One lies and the other one swears to it. Their linebackers especially Matthews and their safties STINK……FACT McDougle, Andrews, Grahm, Ist round flops. Future QB… Kevin Kolb….massive flop….Making two of the best corners in all football play out of their familiar roles……Jaun Castillo as Def. Coord….massive bad decesions. Letting all the good avail. def coord be signed by other teams….stubborn Reid as usual. Giants win 2 Super Bowls in FOUR YEARS…….THIS GETS DOWN TO A POOR OWNER WHO STATES AFTER ALL THAT “ANDY REID IS THE ONE TO TAKE US TO THE SUPER BOWL IN 2012″ To Trent Cole and Jeff Laurie…..Whatever your smoking send me some.

  120. rollore says: Feb 8, 2012 7:11 PM

    The AFC nor the road games are what’s plaguing the Eagles. It’s the home games. They lost to NYG, SF, CHI, AZ, and NE…..AT HOME!!!! That’s five of the 8 losses…and NYG, SF, CHI, and AZ they were still in the game with most of their leads in the 4th quarter…

    …Most notably, the lead they had v. NYG was also in the 4th quarter, and is their lone loss in the division; which is the deciding factor why NYG made the playoffs and the Eagles are the tallest midget in the circus (best in their own division, but sucks enough to miss the playoffs).

  121. drew05 says: Feb 8, 2012 7:58 PM

    C’mon…the g-men got lucky, again… no question about it.

    The Victor cruz (non) fumble in Arizona ended up getting them into the play-offs. (one of many examples) You can’t win the Superbowl unless you make the play-offs.

    Some teams get the breaks (G-men)…Some don’t (Eagles)…

    I agree you “make your own luck” to an extent…but not to the degree the G-men are getting.

    Hopefully 2012 is the year the Eagles “get Lucky!”

    Go Eagles!

    p.s….I completely agree with T. Cole…that being said…

    Eagles! Keep quiet…after the whole “Dream Team” crapola…a gag-order should be put in place.

  122. kingpel says: Feb 9, 2012 6:00 AM

    is vick consistent enough to put together 3 good games in the playoffs against 3 good teams? i dont think so.

  123. gints56lt says: Feb 9, 2012 1:29 PM

    Congratulations on winning the Off-season Best-Team-On-Paper Championship!! That’s two seasons in a row. You’re a frickin’ dynasty!!

  124. phillyfan2413 says: Feb 13, 2012 12:29 PM

    listen to all these eagle haters, good god.. vick this vick that, i love hes one of the most disliked sports figure out there, hahaha good job vick, keep it going dude.. vicks dogpound in the house, roof roof, lol..

    just a couple key pieces on defense and hello ring, believe that!!!!!!!!!!!!

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