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Victor Cruz: “I feel like I deserve to be paid more money at this point”

Eli Mannning, Victor Cruz AP

Last year, Victor Cruz earned $450,000.  In return, the Giants received a franchise record for receiving yardage, with 1,536 yards.

Next year, Cruz is due to make $490,000.  He believes he should get more.

Appearing on a special non-live edition of PFT Live, Cruz talked about winning the Vizio Top Value Performer Award, which goes to the NFL player who does the most for the least money.  I told Victor that, several weeks ago, finalist Matt Forte said he’d prefer not to be nominated for the award, because it means he’s underpaid.  So I asked Victor if he thinks he’s underpaid.

“I think I was paid, you know, relative to where I came in this year and, you know, I came in as a free agent so that’s the salary I was on, so I don’t feel like I was underpaid,” Cruz said.  “I mean, I feel like after my performance this year, you know, I feel like I deserve to be paid more money at this point.  But that’s something I’ll let my agents and those people take care of and I’ll just go out there and play the game.”

He’s right.  And he has every right to speak his mind.  Undrafted and strapped in 2010 with a three-year deal that pays minimum base salaries, he has now earned much more than that.

That doesn’t mean he’s destined to become a diva.  I’ve interviewed him multiple times now, and Cruz seems like a kid who genuinely appreciates what has happened, understands how he got here, and won’t forget where he came from.  But the Giants need to reward him for what he’s done, and for what they’ll undoubtedly be expecting him to do — especially if the team lets Mario Manningham leave via free agency.

The full Cruz interview will be showing up soon in the right rail, by clicking the PFT Live box.  The interview also will be posted on iTunes.

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119 Responses to “Victor Cruz: “I feel like I deserve to be paid more money at this point””
  1. tallguyme says: Feb 9, 2012 1:28 PM

    aaaaaand so it begins!

  2. jimmysimpson55 says: Feb 9, 2012 1:29 PM

    Pay da man.

  3. briang123 says: Feb 9, 2012 1:29 PM

    That didn’t take long.

  4. chadmurdigan says: Feb 9, 2012 1:31 PM

    Give Cruz a big raise because he’s right: he does deserve to be paid more money at this point.

  5. youguysaretotalnerds says: Feb 9, 2012 1:31 PM

    Here we go….

  6. cactitle says: Feb 9, 2012 1:32 PM

    Tikki is Flabbergasted!

  7. prosb4hos says: Feb 9, 2012 1:33 PM

    And for every player who “deserves” to be paid more, there are plenty of other players who deserved to be paid far less. That’s the nature of the business, you must prove yourself beyond one year and show consistency.

  8. ckk415 says: Feb 9, 2012 1:33 PM

    If the Giants dont want to pay im sure it wont be hard to find 31 other teams willing….

  9. radrntn says: Feb 9, 2012 1:35 PM

    kid you do, but don’t pull a Desean Jackson on the Giants. If you want more than sit out until they give you more. No cave in like Desean did.

  10. dukemarc says: Feb 9, 2012 1:36 PM

    Dear one year wonder & fly route receiver, Victor Cruz. Please review Javon Walker’s career and take heed.

  11. farvefromover says: Feb 9, 2012 1:36 PM

    It seems like every offseason has at least one Giant wanting more money.

  12. hystoracle says: Feb 9, 2012 1:37 PM

    See you in September Mr. Cruz. No Training Camp for you my friend.

  13. dirtybird70 says: Feb 9, 2012 1:37 PM

    he’s earned it and deserves it….now. He’s only going to get better.

  14. erfoster says: Feb 9, 2012 1:37 PM

    seems like a good kid and eli likes him. pay em.

  15. bigbluenationdb says: Feb 9, 2012 1:38 PM

    Just relax Victor. The Giants will take care of you. Top priorities on offense are give Victor his money, pay Nicks and pick up a TE in the draft or free agency.

    I also bet Eli reworks his deal to free up money for his top weapons in Nicks and Cruz.

  16. duster1982 says: Feb 9, 2012 1:38 PM

    For every player that comes out saying they deserve to be paid more, I wish just ONE would come out saying “ya know, I had an off year. I wasnt that good. I should be paid less”

  17. noquickreactionshere says: Feb 9, 2012 1:39 PM

    Is Ray Rice the only player in the NFL who knows how to just shut up and play??

  18. chc4 says: Feb 9, 2012 1:40 PM

    I’m sure the team wanted their money back after year 1 when he did zilch. Sorry Pedro, have another good year and then make your case.

  19. jh500 says: Feb 9, 2012 1:40 PM

    He was one of the best receivers in the league this year. He’s earned it.

  20. bobothegreatest says: Feb 9, 2012 1:41 PM

    I think he is right. When he signed his last contract, it never said he had to perform this well. So if he is performing this well, we need a new contract.

  21. mcconnellrules says: Feb 9, 2012 1:41 PM

    Manning drops back.. throws a strike to Victor Cruz!!

    TOUCHDOWN WASHINGTON!

    A perfect throw by Peyton Manning!!

  22. vicioustackle says: Feb 9, 2012 1:41 PM

    He’ll probably make more than his salary in endorsements this year.

    No knock on him—They asked him a question and he gave them an answer.

    And YES—he deserves more $$$

    Don’t we all ;)

  23. rpiotr01 says: Feb 9, 2012 1:42 PM

    We all feel that way, buddy.

    He shouldn’t sell himself short either. Don’t push for a new deal now after one good year. Have another 1-2 good years and your leverage goes up big time.

  24. klunge says: Feb 9, 2012 1:42 PM

    A rare instance where a player says this and is very right. There are receivers making literally 30X the salary who he outperformed this year. And don’t start with the “he hasn’t proven himself” thing, if you watched him play you cannot believe he is a fluke. And if you hear his interviews you cannot contstrue him as being a diva either.

  25. jenniferxxx says: Feb 9, 2012 1:42 PM

    Standard stuff … move along … nothing to see here.

  26. inthearex says: Feb 9, 2012 1:42 PM

    When has victor Cruz run a fly route this year?

  27. hedleykow says: Feb 9, 2012 1:46 PM

    Cruz only made 450K last year? He made me more than that.

  28. iamnotoleanderson says: Feb 9, 2012 1:47 PM

    Baseball has the better system.

    Yes it does. Notice how we never see complaining about contracts, holdouts, etc there.

  29. mikeschmitt1217 says: Feb 9, 2012 1:47 PM

    Victor Cruz can do some amazing things in the slot, but he needs to show one more year of consistent play and be able to fight through any double teams he may get in order to secure a big pay day. Until than we got ourselves quite a bargain in NYC.

  30. ebeg420 says: Feb 9, 2012 1:47 PM

    He earned it and deserves it……but didn’t you rip Desean Jackson this year for wanting more money too?

  31. eaglesnoles05 says: Feb 9, 2012 1:47 PM

    This makes me smile.

  32. glennsyank13 says: Feb 9, 2012 1:47 PM

    You misspelled his name. It is D-e-s-e-a-n. And actually his last name is Jackson, not Cruz

  33. whatnojets says: Feb 9, 2012 1:47 PM

    The Giants should cut this guy right now!!!
    What nerve to ask for more moneey, I mean, you know, what I’m saying, you know.

  34. shlort says: Feb 9, 2012 1:48 PM

    The line will get longer at the pay cage in NY. There are more than a few guys on the Giants who believe they are worth more money because they won the SB. Cruz should get paid. Otheres, not so much. It wont stop the playerrs from asking or demanding more. Once Cruz gets paid, the ball will start rolling.

  35. BuccaneerBloodline23 says: Feb 9, 2012 1:50 PM

    whatnojets says:
    Feb 9, 2012 1:47 PM
    The Giants should cut this guy right now!!!
    What nerve to ask for more moneey, I mean, you know, what I’m saying, you know.

    —————————————————-

    Totally with you dude. This is a bad sign for Giants. I mean this crap NEVER ends well.

  36. scoob766 says: Feb 9, 2012 1:51 PM

    He’s under contract and has had ONE good year. Wait at least until midseason next year to offer anything. This guy is worst then Desean Jackson, TO or any other player asking for a raise as he did it for ONE year. Don’t pay this chump.

  37. 69finfan says: Feb 9, 2012 1:52 PM

    Dolphin Fan here and don’t like the Giants at all (except for JPP since we are both Bulls) so I am totally unbiased but from what I saw in Giants Games at end of season, Playoffs and SB he definately, definately deserves to be paid more than $500 thou. He is a very good receiver and deserves to be paid accordingly. And if not he’d fit in nicely in Miami.

  38. mikehttr87 says: Feb 9, 2012 1:54 PM

    The title of this article really undermines what Cruz said. Sure he backed into saying he thinks he should be paid more, but the title makes him sound like a diva screaming for a bigger contract (a la Brandon Jacobs and Osi Umenyoura in the past).

    The kid seems to have his head on straight and came from humble begginings. It would be nice to see him get rewarded for his hard work.

  39. mightyleemoon says: Feb 9, 2012 1:55 PM

    A professional athlete who feels they should be paid more than the contact that they signed.

    I’m absolutely shocked.

  40. rascalmanny says: Feb 9, 2012 1:56 PM

    He certainly played better than no-way-CJ (Chris Johnson).

    He’s earned a raise for sure. It’s just a matter of how much he wants.

  41. bearsrulepackdrool says: Feb 9, 2012 1:56 PM

    Might as well. Because if he falls off or gets hurt next year. He’ll be out on the street and long forgotten. Just ask David Tyree.

  42. knew8411 says: Feb 9, 2012 1:56 PM

    No doubt, the man had a good year. That being said…..
    How many times has a player made a similar request…. & had it honored, only to tank the following season, and never regain that form?
    Does he not think that teams didnt learn from his perfromance this season, and will know how to better defense him in the futrue?
    I would say this: Yeah OK….we’ll pay you only if you put up similar numbers from here on out…any drop in out put > 10% from this season, and the deal is null and void.

  43. zaggs says: Feb 9, 2012 1:57 PM

    I’d rather Cruz gets paid then worrying about resigning Manningham.
    It would be one thing if Cruz only had like 500 yards. But after 1500? Yeah, you need to pay the man so long as he isn’t asking to be paid like Megatron yet. They could always go the incentive route.

  44. pixelito says: Feb 9, 2012 1:59 PM

    Give him the same deal Steve Smith now wishes he never turned down.

  45. mikesvikes says: Feb 9, 2012 1:59 PM

    One pretty darn good season. Part of it maybe because of being unknown. IF he can repeat it then he should be paid. We made a comittment by offering you a contract and you signed it so tough luck. Come see us again when you prove you can beat consistent double coverage and only a year left on your contract otherwise it doesnt make sense for us. We know its a hardship and you cant feed your family off of 490k a year.

  46. getadealdonealready says: Feb 9, 2012 1:59 PM

    No one wanted you a year ago, you ended up in a great situation that can make you millions if you know when to keep your mouth shut. It pains me to say this (as a vikings fan), but look at Jordy Nelson he took less money to be in a situation that will be good for him long term. Be happy you are in the league, with a good QB and WR (nicks) who will take coverage from you and make you look good, and the $ will come. Become a pain in the A$$, and you will go the way of many other one year wonders before you!

  47. jenniferxxx says: Feb 9, 2012 2:00 PM

    “This makes me smile.”

    4 Superbowl Championships … that makes ME smile.

  48. zaggs says: Feb 9, 2012 2:01 PM

    Thing is, he won’t repeat or exceed this past season. Mainly because alot of his big plays should not have happened. You can only be missed tackled so many times (Egirls, Cowgirls, that other team that plays in Metlife stadium). But the dude is still shifty, obviously Eli has all the confidence in the world in him and seems to have a good head on him. So as long as the money is right this shouldn’t end too bad.

  49. indycolt45 says: Feb 9, 2012 2:03 PM

    Well that didn’t take long.

  50. moronhater16 says: Feb 9, 2012 2:06 PM

    Here we go… He was doing so well with his dance and his clothing line and being a good player…. And now it begins…..

  51. youdownwithjpp says: Feb 9, 2012 2:07 PM

    I don’t see the issue in asking for more money. He has taken on more responsibility and excelled. What is the issue here? I mean don’t we do this in our own careers? (I know I do).

    If you don’t set a value for yourself do you really think anyone else will? I’m a Giants fan and have no issue with Cruz asking for a raise, he has certainly shown he can get the job done.

  52. whatnojets says: Feb 9, 2012 2:07 PM

    I think that every player who is under a current contract that asks or demands more money should be put on the “No Hall of Fame” list.

  53. iamnotoleanderson says: Feb 9, 2012 2:07 PM

    If I were Cruz’ agent I would have told the Giants to give him a raise- before the Super Bowl. And if he didn’t get one he wouldn’t play.

  54. whatnojets says: Feb 9, 2012 2:10 PM

    Brandon Jacobs deserves a pay raise!

  55. 808raiderinparadise says: Feb 9, 2012 2:11 PM

    My life would completely change if I was due to make $490,000 next year :/

    They would be smart to pay him a new contract in the middle range, you know he will take it and his agent can’t preach off one season to be paid like a top 10 WR $$$$ …. or else he will have another good year and then be like Dwayne Bowe and V-JAx situation …… and you will have to dump a truck load on him.

    Great WR, and a great kid.

  56. flyingitalian says: Feb 9, 2012 2:13 PM

    I’m a big Victor Cruz fan. Seems like a humble, hard-working kid. But he needs another 1000+ yrd year before he should get a big contract. Next year teams will be game planning for him like the Pats did in the SB. If he still puts up those stats…show him the money. It’s a business people and the Giants have other areas to address. Primarily LB, OL, TE.

  57. scoob766 says: Feb 9, 2012 2:15 PM

    I still can’t believe people are siding with him lol. This is a business, he is under contract. Arian Foster didn’t complain after one year, he went on to have another great year. He will be paid this year or next. Anyone actually thinking of paying this joke, needs to realize he needs to do it for more then one year and not stop barking immediately after he has a good year.

  58. maryannwiththeshakyhands says: Feb 9, 2012 2:18 PM

    One of the things my Dad taught me when I was young was to never discuss your income, good or bad, with anyone. I know this is pro sports but beyond that it’s a real sign of where society has gone as a whole. Everybody in every profession is so damn worried about making more than the other guy and it’s all we read about in sports (thanks to a-holes like PFT that have to ask about paychecks). And no I’m not ignorant to the “injury factor” but beyond that it’s just become sad.

  59. jmills147 says: Feb 9, 2012 2:18 PM

    Relax, everyone…he answered a question honestly, and it’s true…he’s not saying he’s demanding to be paid more, just that he agrees with the statement that he deserves more than base minimum…so what? Kid had a hell of a year, it’s not like he’s saying he won’t return to the field until his contract is renegotiated, or that he won’t play unless he’s the highest paid receiver in the league…let’s not make a mountain out of this mole hill of an honest response…great season, Cruz, you helped make our Gmen the world champs!

  60. tburris says: Feb 9, 2012 2:19 PM

    Arian Foster waited his time and proved he could do it for the same kind of money. This guy can wait and prove it one more year, then he becomes an UFA.

  61. paybizzy says: Feb 9, 2012 2:21 PM

    @ Noquick see LaSean McCoy

  62. jerseyshoregiant says: Feb 9, 2012 2:21 PM

    dukemarc says:
    Feb 9, 2012 1:36 PM
    Dear one year wonder & fly route receiver, Victor Cruz. Please review Javon Walker’s career and take heed.
    ————————————————–
    you obviously didn’t watch one Giant game all year!!

  63. packattack1967 says: Feb 9, 2012 2:24 PM

    I wish there was a GM that would just cut guys like this that open their trap.

  64. kspells12345 says: Feb 9, 2012 2:24 PM

    This kid, from a football and marketing standpoint had one of the best years anyone could have. Take his rags to riches story and the fact that he’s likeable -how could you not cash in if you are him?

    One thing no one’s looking at too…is the Latin angle of all of this. NYC – one of the biggest Latino markets – you know how many more fans the Giants probably gained worldwide just from Cruz alone? The Giants need to sign this kid ASAP – he’s almost forced their hand – and this is coming from an Eagles fan that hates the Giants. This isn’t like DeSean’s situation at all.

  65. melikefootball says: Feb 9, 2012 2:25 PM

    This is why teams have a hard time repeating anymore. Players say Championships are what they play for but MONEY talk is downfall of teams.

  66. spinmovr says: Feb 9, 2012 2:27 PM

    Nobody interviews players who take or seek out pay cuts. “So and so’s salary was restructured so the team could…..” That’s usually all we see. Maybe, sometimes a player making ridiculous Peyton Manning-level money in a year will talk about it.

    You all can’t tell players to jump through all kinds of hoops because of how much money they’re paid AND gripe about what they do to make that money in the first place. You all act like it’s your money.

  67. mnfan1 says: Feb 9, 2012 2:27 PM

    Dude you had one good year, thats it. Remember Sidney Rice, one good year and got paid and did nothing since. Its not out of this world to say do it a couple seasons and then get paid $$$

  68. jgboys1 says: Feb 9, 2012 2:32 PM

    That didn’t take long.

  69. kadeeu says: Feb 9, 2012 2:33 PM

    There need to be league mandated incentive bonuses for low round and free agent contracts so situations like this don’t keep occurring.

  70. thom4msu says: Feb 9, 2012 2:33 PM

    Cruze. 1536 yards. 490,000
    Manning. ZERO yards 28,000,000

    Something isn’t right here.

  71. lgwelsh1 says: Feb 9, 2012 2:37 PM

    Sign him up for a long term deal, he is young and is only going to get better. 5 years 20 million + signing bonus and incentives.

  72. bobbyhoying says: Feb 9, 2012 2:40 PM

    Ask DeSean Jackson how to handle the situation. Then go hire Drew. It’s working out just swell for him.

  73. vegasmasons says: Feb 9, 2012 2:40 PM

    Dallas did the same thing with Miles Austin and look how that has turned out (so far). Have to be careful overpaying these guys after one good year.

  74. jakek2 says: Feb 9, 2012 2:52 PM

    I’m a Giants’ fan and I’d tell Cruz to HOLD OUT!

    Desean Jackson killed his chance at the big contract by playing afraid last year. Steve Smith was underpaid and then tore his knee.

    Don’t be the “loyal soldier”. If you play on the $400k this year and get injured, the Giants will not give you the big bucks based upon 2011. Dumb to risk having to live the rest of your life off of $400K. If you want to get your family out of Paterson, this is your big chance to take care of you and them for the rest of their lives. Its just business and I for one won’t begrudge Vic for doing what he has to do for his family.

  75. nfl1818 says: Feb 9, 2012 2:53 PM

    Pats fan here – despite all the gloating by certain Giant posters – the man was a stud and the you could tell he was very cautious and apprehensive about responding to the question – credit for that – Belichick doubled him the whole game – no need to say more. Would think they apply jacobs $$ to him.

  76. jakek2 says: Feb 9, 2012 2:54 PM

    No team wants a sulker and I’d sulk too if I was a beast getting paid less than a 6th rd rookie. Reward him with a modest extension and some guaranteed $$. He’ll be happy and that will make Eli very happy which will make this Giants’ fan very, very, very happy.

  77. cjepp says: Feb 9, 2012 2:58 PM

    I understand relative to other players, he deserves more. I just cant wait for the day that some elite, top performing player to say “Im getting $460,000 this year to play a game and for that, I am thankful!”— Something tells me that that kind of attitude always wins in the end.

  78. bigbluefan1 says: Feb 9, 2012 3:01 PM

    Yes I am a Giants fan and I have been saying for months pay the man
    This kid is a rare find a dimond in the rough

    In one season he has broken the single season record he is the fan favorite and from everything I have seen and read about him he is a great guy.

    He did not say I want more money someone asked him a question and he answered it honestly.

    He sould get a bump this year and a new contract that sets some goals and if he reaches those goals then by all means pay the man

    I am sure he will be number two in demand for commericals and being he plays in the big city he will get big dollars for it.

    He will make money off his take on jersey sales and Cruuuuuuuuz t-shirts.

    Victor is a jersey kid who beat the odds growing up in a rough area and has become one of the best at what he does he is a role model to every young kid out there.

  79. cannonballdookie says: Feb 9, 2012 3:07 PM

    He’s a very good WR, but he knows he will never have another season like he had last year. I know he’s talented and all but it doesn’t take a genius to see he got a TON of yardage of completely broken plays and tipped passes. Won’t be receiving all the good luck next year.

    If he can have another 1000 yard season though, he should be in line for a pretty good payday soon. Not sure why guys don’t understand they aren’t going to be getting paid big bucks the first few years if they were unknows. I wish contracts were like how they are in baseball or hockey, where you get the first two or three years of cheap team control then your salary increases based on how good you are before you land that mega deal.

  80. t16rich says: Feb 9, 2012 3:08 PM

    thom4msu says:Feb 9, 2012 2:33 PM

    Cruze. 1536 yards. 490,000
    Manning. ZERO yards 28,000,000

    Something isn’t right here.

    If the Giants used your logic, Victor Cruz would have never been a success and Tom Brady would have 5 rings. He just broke out on the scene and off season hasnt really begun. What isnt right here? Cruz will get his. And for the record Eli is much more valuable then Cruz despite Eli’s poor total receiving yards.

  81. preventdefense says: Feb 9, 2012 3:11 PM

    Maybe prove you’re not a one-season wonder (it happens, often) before begging for bigger bucks? Just a thought.

  82. snowpea84 says: Feb 9, 2012 3:11 PM

    Players have short shelf lives. The team needs his performance. The compensation he is receiving is at this poitn just enough to get him to show up. They can’t cut him because another team would scoop him up. It’s clear what they need to do.

  83. moronhater16 says: Feb 9, 2012 3:14 PM

    Cruze. 1536 yards. 490,000
    Manning. ZERO yards 28,000,000

    Something isn’t right here

    11 time pro bowl MVP Super Bowl champ QB, an a rookie wr, no comparison…

  84. portnoychunk says: Feb 9, 2012 3:14 PM

    Yeah, as much as anyone can “earn” the obscene amount of money pro athlete’s get paid, Cruz certainly deserves a nice bump. This is coming from a Pats fan who was dreading our defense facing him in the SB. THAT’s the kind of player he is – strikes fear into the heart of opponents.

  85. wickerphil says: Feb 9, 2012 3:20 PM

    dukemarc says:
    “Feb 9, 2012 1:36 PM
    Dear one year wonder & fly route receiver, Victor Cruz. Please review Javon Walker’s career and take heed.”

    First off, if you think that Cruz was only – or even primarily – effective on fly routes, you are nuts. Second, Javon Walker’s career – and earning potential – was destroyed by 3 serious injuries. And this means that Cruz should hold off on getting a big contract why?

    It is frustrating to see so many people that are convinced that QBs like Peyton Manning should be allowed to make as much as they can get and are worth every penny, but the other 21 positions on the field should consider themselves to be lucky for whatever they get.

    That being said, Cruz owes his NFL career to the fact that the Giants got him from absolutely nowhere: a small school player that wasn’t even invited to the combine. In that context … his making $910,000 the past two years isn’t SO BAD. He should be fine with playing next season at his current salary, and THEN breaking the bank on an extension. And he should also realize that it helps to have Eli Manning getting you the ball. Not many QBs had the ability to thread the needle on Cruz’s TD reception in the Super Bowl. Had Cruz been signed by 3/4 of the teams in the NFL, no one would have ANY IDEA that he could play, because he wouldn’t have a QB that could get him the ball consistently. And even some of the teams that do have good QBs … had he gone to New Orleans or Green Bay, they have so many weapons that Cruz would have never gotten on the field.

    Cruz should continue to lobby for more money, but do so with his play on the field next year, not by speaking through the media.

  86. jbcommonsense says: Feb 9, 2012 3:25 PM

    Cruz is stating the obvious. Understating it in fact.

  87. numbersdude says: Feb 9, 2012 3:29 PM

    Does he deserve more…yeah…does he deserve a superstar contract…no…One season does not a career make…besides how many guys give back money after they have a horrendous season with huge contracts…this is a business…of course you want to keep him happy…maybe double his salary with a promise to extend his contract in the third year with a significant pay increase…

  88. eaststsfb says: Feb 9, 2012 3:30 PM

    One good year doesn’t mean he’ll do it again. Show consistent production for 1-2 more years, then you can talk.

  89. drobstad says: Feb 9, 2012 3:32 PM

    It is not rocket science to know a guy who breaks your franchise receiving record should get a raise from his un-drafted rookie FA contract. Unfortunately Cruz is absolutely right and this all but spells the end of Super Mario in NY.
    Resigning Steve Smith @ the veterans minimum will have to do.

  90. wicky888 says: Feb 9, 2012 3:33 PM

    Picture this. You decide to “hold out” from work tomorrow, demanding a salary 10 times higher than what you agreed to. So you sit at home and wait, knowing damn well if your company desides not to pay you, that 31 others will be lining up.

  91. rcali says: Feb 9, 2012 3:33 PM

    Who trapped him into the 3 year deal again? I have a day to day deal at work.

  92. fittytuckin says: Feb 9, 2012 3:36 PM

    I want to hear from all the giants fans that threw desean jackson under the bus.

  93. danwahl80 says: Feb 9, 2012 3:38 PM

    He’s right, he should be paid more after the Pro Bowl level season he had. But it was just one season. If I were the Giants, I would bump him up a bit for next year, and then tell him, go out and do it again, then we’ll talk long-term.

  94. danwahl80 says: Feb 9, 2012 3:44 PM

    “I want to hear from all the giants fans that threw desean jackson under the bus.”

    When Victor Cruz holds out of training camp, and becomes a distraction to the team like Desean Jackson did to the Eagles, then you can make that comparison.

  95. Slim Charles says: Feb 9, 2012 3:48 PM

    Everyone who is whining that he shouldn’t hold out and that they’d play for free should try being good enough at something that they even have a chance to make that amount of money before they cry about someone else doing it.

  96. patsfiend says: Feb 9, 2012 3:53 PM

    Wow, that was quick. Get used to this Giants fans… hard decisions ahead, and investing in the wrong guys can torpedo the team for a while. After Pats went to SB in 1996 they overpaid on a bunch of guys, and it took wholesale clearance by Belichick to start straightening things out in 2000.

  97. 2sausage11 says: Feb 9, 2012 3:54 PM

    One good year dosen’t make you a HOF just ask Eli

  98. bigjdve says: Feb 9, 2012 4:01 PM

    Cruz had a great year. Does he deserve more, sure however when he signed he was an undrafted free agent. That means he was going to take anything he could get.

    He has 2 more years on his deal. He didn’t start the talk, he should just play, I think that he will.

    That being said, the Giants should give him a little bump, not to premier prices but maybe to 1.5 a year or something like that for another year or 2. That would be fair to both sides. It will show that they appreciate his work, and give him a chance to show consistency.

    Personally, I think that he will be great for a long time which sucks because then my team will have to face him twice a year as long as he is with the Giants.

  99. mortymcfearson says: Feb 9, 2012 4:07 PM

    I can only assume that if Cruz under-performs in the future, he will try to renegotiate his salary lower to reflect his under-performance.

  100. kajepage says: Feb 9, 2012 4:21 PM

    2sausage11 says: Feb 9, 2012 3:54 PM

    One good year dosen’t make you a HOF just ask Eli

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    Saying your worth more than the least amount any NFL player is receiving doesn’t necessarily mean you think you’re a HOF’er. The guy was asked point blank if he thinks he’s underpaid and after breaking a franchise record he responded honestly.

  101. kajepage says: Feb 9, 2012 4:29 PM

    For everyone trying the reverse argument, if a player underperforms he can be cut by the team and his salary goes to 0. Avg shelf like of NFL players is very short and contracts are not guaranteed, there is no reason to talk about renegotiating a contract after significantly outperforming it the way the contracts are structured for the players.

  102. kev86 says: Feb 9, 2012 4:30 PM

    Based on production its obvious he will be underpaid next season.

    He needs to be careful though. If he elects to sit out, Eli/Giants offense can quickly turn someone else into a slot WR star. He did it with Steve Smith and he did it with Victor Cruz.

  103. glac1 says: Feb 9, 2012 4:34 PM

    Did he sign a contract???? If so…honor it.

  104. stavreafavre says: Feb 9, 2012 4:41 PM

    Amazing that with all the scouts out there from 32 teams that every year talented guys still fall through the cracks and then shine when they have a chance. Seems like a great kid. Even though he helped knock out the Packers I can’t feel any animosity toward him. I think he’d spend the money wisely and I hope he gets it.

  105. chocolatebaconbutter says: Feb 9, 2012 4:41 PM

    Do this, in this order:

    1. Extend TC
    2. Lock up Nicks
    3. Resign Terrell Thomas
    4. Lock up Cruz
    5. Resolve Osi Issue (regardless of outcome)
    6. Draft OL and LB help.

  106. nyjetsmaniac says: Feb 9, 2012 5:16 PM

    Is this the same guy who was shut down in the Super Bowl ,After they smashed him off the line after every snap..Yea they won the Super Bowl but the Pats did supply the blueprint to shut him down…Take it easy 1 year wonder ……

  107. broncosaddict says: Feb 9, 2012 5:18 PM

    Really easy. Make all contracts incentive based.

    Set a base salary for each position and the number of years played.
    Have escalater/bonus’s for performance, (ie. number of tackles, yards receiving, td’s, etc )

    The player gets paid for what they do
    The team pays for what they get

    Have a bad year, get a small paycheck, have a monster year have a monster paycheck.

    Everybody should be happy….but sadly they probably wont.

  108. brenenostler says: Feb 9, 2012 5:29 PM

    The problem is that when these players start asking for big contracts, it usually happens just after their best season. So they never actually quite live up to expectations.

  109. granadafan says: Feb 9, 2012 5:34 PM

    “radrntn says: Feb 9, 2012 1:35 PM
    kid you do, but don’t pull a Desean Jackson on the Giants. If you want more than sit out until they give you more. No cave in like Desean did.”
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    DeSean Jackson was fat out lied to by the Eagles GM who said that if came back to camp he’d be taken care of, and not while he was holding out. They said they would do it after the restructered Vick’s contract which ate up too much cap room. If I was DeSean, I’d give the middle finger to the Eagles and walk. They did him dirty. Of course, he didn’t exactly help his cause much either.

  110. pat940 says: Feb 9, 2012 5:49 PM

    I don’t understand why more contracts aren’t incentive based. If you perform really well, you get paid accordingly. If you do not get paid, it means you didnt produce. You could negotiate the base pay and the incentives so it would still be free market, but with contracts that long its hard to lock in a salary for unknown future production.

    Think auto companies. They have evolved to where the hourly rates are less, but profit share could make you more money in good years, and you wouldnt be laid off during the bad- just paid less.

  111. sixburghrules says: Feb 9, 2012 6:33 PM

    pat940 says: Feb 9, 2012 5:49 PM

    I don’t understand why more contracts aren’t incentive based. If you perform really well, you get paid accordingly.

    I agree completely with you. I would give him a little more base salary for next year loaded with incentives! Not like the QB or offense is going to change much next year. I think incentive based contracts are really the way to go especially if I were an owner or GM. For the player you also have to be considerate for the injuries as well.

    Nothing more except GO STEELERS!

  112. rastaraider says: Feb 9, 2012 6:40 PM

    Truuu that

  113. jmota222 says: Feb 9, 2012 8:03 PM

    He deserves more !! One of the most humble stars in the league with that being said PAY DA MAN!!!!

  114. janvanflac says: Feb 9, 2012 8:18 PM

    All NFL contracts should have a reasonable guaranteed base salary, and then heavy on incentives, which should be a mix of playing time, stats etc. That way if someone has a breakout season, the DO get paid….and if someone underachieves or struggles with injury theres less incentive to cut them.

  115. sixburghrules says: Feb 9, 2012 8:31 PM

    jmota222 says: Feb 9, 2012 8:03 PM

    He deserves more !! One of the most humble stars in the league with that being said PAY DA MAN!!!!

    Pay him with incentives! Nothing more nothing less! Make sure he works for his paycheck

  116. buzzbissinger says: Feb 9, 2012 10:32 PM

    He punctuates every catch over 10 yards by signaling first down, that’s worth something, isn’t it?

  117. andyreidisfat says: Feb 10, 2012 1:01 AM

    I just want to say their are people saying Cruz is “pulling a desean “. But well that’s just false. Jackson played great for 3 years before he said a word about money, Cruz has only played one year. Jackson established himself in the nfl and truly proved he deserved big money. Giving Cruz a big money long term deal after one year would be stupid, I would look for gmen to give him incentives or maybe just a flat bump in salary.

  118. eaglesw00t says: Feb 15, 2012 12:42 PM

    jakek2 says:
    Feb 9, 2012 2:52 PM
    I’m a Giants’ fan and I’d tell Cruz to HOLD OUT!

    Desean Jackson killed his chance at the big contract by playing afraid last year. Steve Smith was underpaid and then tore his knee.

    Don’t be the “loyal soldier”. If you play on the $400k this year and get injured, the Giants will not give you the big bucks based upon 2011. Dumb to risk having to live the rest of your life off of $400K. If you want to get your family out of Paterson, this is your big chance to take care of you and them for the rest of their lives. Its just business and I for one won’t begrudge Vic for doing what he has to do for his family.
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    Im an Eagles fan. I hate the Giants. I dont like Victor Cruz. (Thanks Nnamdi :( ) I normally end up on the owners side of arguments, because players tend to be out of whack when they make demands. And I hate to see anyone under an existing contract whine that they arent making enough money, close after signing a piece of paper. (See T.O. in Philly)

    I must say though…that was a well thought out argument, and well stated on the side of the player. You actually made me slightly change my mind, and think about the matter in a different manner.

    Thanks for taking the time to write that. Its rare that you read something on the internet that actually makes you think twice about your own opinions.

  119. eaglesw00t says: Feb 15, 2012 12:48 PM

    I don’t understand why more contracts aren’t incentive based. If you perform really well, you get paid accordingly. If you do not get paid, it means you didnt produce. You could negotiate the base pay and the incentives so it would still be free market, but with contracts that long its hard to lock in a salary for unknown future production.

    Think auto companies. They have evolved to where the hourly rates are less, but profit share could make you more money in good years, and you wouldnt be laid off during the bad- just paid less.

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    The reason more contracts arent heavily incentive laden is complicated.

    1. Salary cap minimum expenditures state they MUST spend a certain % of their income on salaries. Its hard to get all of your players to fit in that small window between minimum and maximum if you dont know what their total salary will be until incentives have been met or missed.
    2. The salary cap would be difficult to manage if all your players have contracts that the team cant plan for until the end of the year.
    3. Players want guaranteed money. If they get hurt, incentives arent going to pay their bills. So they say “show me the money…and now, not later, so I can complain about that contract, and ask for more in 2 years time again.”

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