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Richard Seymour isn’t going anywhere

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Richard Seymour doesn’t have one of the “out of whack” contracts that Raiders G.M. Reggie McKenzie plans to whack.

Jim Trotter of Sports Illustrated points out that Seymour’s $15 million salary in 2012 became fully guaranteed a few days ago. The Raiders could have cut him to avoid half of the salary.

That’s a big price for Seymour, who is coming off a Pro Bowl season. But keeping him was a no-brainer. McKenzie had the choice to pay Seymour $7.5 million for nothing or $15 million to stay around.

Even though it was an easy decision to keep Seymour, we wouldn’t expect McKenzie to hand out many contracts like the one Seymour received last year. Two-year, $30 million contracts that are almost entirely guaranteed are generally bad for business.

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38 Responses to “Richard Seymour isn’t going anywhere”
  1. Chairman Al says: Feb 12, 2012 10:16 AM

    Also have to factor in what Big Sey brings to the team outside of his play. Young defense, young coach, soon to be new defenseive backs. #92 is probably as influential as the defensive coordinator, if not more so.

    Looking back, I think this was one of Oakland’s better gambles…which doesn’t say a lot, as there were some terrible ones. But after Seymour’s intial reluctance to go to Oakland, he’s taken on the huge responsibility of being the team leader. Oh, and he’s still considered one of the meanest guys to play against out there.

  2. steelerhypocrite says: Feb 12, 2012 10:20 AM

    Well, here comes another wasted year for Seymour…damn the Raiders are awful. Al Davis’ carcass has more fight than this team…

  3. benh999 says: Feb 12, 2012 10:23 AM

    “we wouldn’t expect McKenzie to hand out many contracts like the one Seymour received last year.”

    Al Davis’ ghost will not be pleased.

  4. benmci says: Feb 12, 2012 10:28 AM

    Just “smacking” Rothlisberger this year was priceless

  5. lostsok says: Feb 12, 2012 10:38 AM

    Letting Seymour go would have unraveled that defense. Simple as that.

  6. 1captain1 says: Feb 12, 2012 10:45 AM

    They better make a splash in free agency… if not then we will know that the new management & ownership is all about the benjamins…

    …and not trying to win.

  7. AlohaMrHand says: Feb 12, 2012 10:48 AM

    Seymour isn’t the problem,the stiffs that surrounded him were.Wembley and Curry I wont shed a tear if and when they are cut.

  8. dubaradhandi says: Feb 12, 2012 10:50 AM

    The problem is after getting paid and after retirement sey sitting in the media will kill OAK for their inability to win. It happens.

  9. whodeytn says: Feb 12, 2012 10:54 AM

    Sorry, but his numbers were not worthy of a pro bowl. He got in on name alone.

  10. noeffinway says: Feb 12, 2012 11:05 AM

    Isn’t he the dude that acted like Suh but did not get punished like Suh?

  11. ihatetheeffingjets says: Feb 12, 2012 11:22 AM

    Sorry, Seymour wasn’t even that good when he was good. All but maybe 2 of his pro bowls he made on reputation alone. He’s the opposite of Willie McGinnest who was an injury-prone underacheiver who had a great second half of his career. Seymour, onm the other hand, came out like gangbusters but has coasted on his rep. since about 2005.

  12. Chairman Al says: Feb 12, 2012 11:25 AM

    Isn’t he the dude that acted like Suh but did not get punished like Suh?

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    He did throw a swing during a scuffle and got fined for it. Suh stomped a guy who was laying on the ground. Not worth the same punishment to me.

  13. goformarty says: Feb 12, 2012 11:28 AM

    If Seymour had still been with the Patriots they would have won the Super Bowl this year. Last year too.

  14. 7pints says: Feb 12, 2012 11:53 AM

    1captain1 says:
    Feb 12, 2012 10:45 AM
    They better make a splash in free agency… if not then we will know that the new management & ownership is all about the benjamins…

    …and not trying to win.
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    A splash in free agency??? To make a splash you have to have, you know, cap space. Cutting one player does not make space. Jokeland is just trying to get back to even.

  15. raiderfankirk says: Feb 12, 2012 12:35 PM

    Any moron who thinks cap space keeps a team from signing a player / players is well..just that a moron.

  16. ratbastardshanahandjob says: Feb 12, 2012 12:49 PM

    It would be impossible for R.M to whack all of “Coach” Davis overpaid-underachieving “great playaaa’s” in one year. It’s going to take time to clean up the mess Al left. Think exxon valdez kind of mess. But as a Raider fan at least going into 2012 we start to have a chance. With Al there wasn’t any. Unless of course the goal was failure……

    Routt, Hue Jackson, Bresnahan. I can’t wait to see which stiff goes next. Let the heads roll…..

  17. ravensfan4life52 says: Feb 12, 2012 12:53 PM

    I want to see what Palmer looks like next season. I think after a whole offseason he’ll be a lot better. I wouldn’t be surprised if the Raiders made the playoffs next year.

  18. dondiraider says: Feb 12, 2012 1:01 PM

    can we finally get this clear…..Seymour NEVER said he did not want to come to Oakland, the media did!

  19. jessethegreat says: Feb 12, 2012 1:02 PM

    I think the Raiders biggest need is having Run DMC stay healthy next year. Though Bush did well in his absence, the Raiders were a much better team when Run DMC was running at full strength. He’s got all the potential in the world, and if he cuts down on his time missed, there’s no reason to expect the Raiders to miss the playoffs this coming season.

  20. thetwilightsown says: Feb 12, 2012 1:09 PM

    1captain1 says:
    Feb 12, 2012 10:45 AM

    A splash in free agency??? To make a splash you have to have, you know, cap space. Cutting one player does not make space. Jokeland is just trying to get back to even.

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    Your 2nd post on Richard Seymour – gotta be a Charger fan.
    Chef fans are too smart to talk trash from the bottom of the barrel and Donk’s don’t know any name other than Tebow, so… process of elimination.
    Put it this way: We could pay Seymour 30 million for one game and it would still be a better deal than Norv & AJ for a year for free. I’m sure Reggie holds every out of whack contract up against the bonus of two gimmes next year when that heartless powder blue trainwreck finds out the hard way that, “Yes, if your insane owner dies you really can start playing real football immediately.”
    Shoulda won a ring when Al was still around, because that half-azzed football you guys have been trotting out every week for 30 years ain’t gonna be enough anymore.
    “All about the benjamins?” Gawd – you wish.
    Enjoy.

    Look, no matter how

  21. grogansheroes says: Feb 12, 2012 1:27 PM

    The Raiders will go nowhere with C. Palmer at QB. The most over rated Qb, maybe in NFL history.

  22. tonydouglas81 says: Feb 12, 2012 1:57 PM

    Let’s keep Kelly as well.

  23. Chairman Al says: Feb 12, 2012 2:02 PM

    can we finally get this clear…..Seymour NEVER said he did not want to come to Oakland, the media did!
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    Absolutely right. But while he didn’t say it, the delay in him showing up or even speaking about it hinted at me he had reservations, which was reported as well. But you’re right, he didn’t say it. It was just a bit of a rocky start. He has said several times though that he wants to retire as a Raider.

  24. southbayra1der says: Feb 12, 2012 2:22 PM

    illl give him one more year, bring in some young & hungry dt’s , let seymore teach a thing or two then see if big sey wants to stay for less or let em walk

  25. lunarpie says: Feb 12, 2012 2:26 PM

    Keeping Seymour is one thing, but for how much longer? Paying that much $ for a D-lineman that occupies 2 O-lineman is okay. The Raiders need another DT to line up next to Seymour. Tommy Kelly did this pretty well but lacks stamina . Oakland needs to find 2 or 3 free agents who play defense with 3 years or less experience.

  26. southbayra1der says: Feb 12, 2012 2:47 PM

    lunarpie says:Feb 12, 2012 2:26 PM

    Keeping Seymour is one thing, but for how much longer? Paying that much $ for a D-lineman that occupies 2 O-lineman is okay. The Raiders need another DT to line up next to Seymour. Tommy Kelly did this pretty well but lacks stamina . Oakland needs to find 2 or 3 free agents who play defense with 3 years or less experience.

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    just keep him tilll his contract is done. i think he has 1 more year. if he wants to return, get em at a lower price . simple . hes made a difference but he makes alot of bonehead mistakes… he easily cost us the ne game … if he can cut the crap hell be fine

  27. steviekthr3e says: Feb 12, 2012 3:10 PM

    now if he can only go a full season without getting tossed out of a game….

  28. joetoronto says: Feb 12, 2012 3:26 PM

    lunarpie says:
    Feb 12, 2012 2:26 PM
    Keeping Seymour is one thing, but for how much longer? Paying that much $ for a D-lineman that occupies 2 O-lineman is okay. The Raiders need another DT to line up next to Seymour. Tommy Kelly did this pretty well but lacks stamina . Oakland needs to find 2 or 3 free agents who play defense with 3 years or less experience.
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    Oh no they don’t.

    They have Desmond Bryant ready to go, and the kid looks awesome, and they have Lamar Houston, who’s been playing out of position at DE.

    What they need is another DE, but I have a feeling Wimbley will fill that need, instead of playing LB.

    At least I hope so.

  29. schwinnbanger says: Feb 12, 2012 3:27 PM

    Sure would be nice to see a post season game again. I remember when Oakland was practically a “shoe in” for making the playoffs year after year. I don’t care who they cut, who they hire, who they draft. I’d like to care, but really, who has anything to say about that other than the Raider Organization. I just want one thing. WIN BABY!

  30. lunarpie says: Feb 12, 2012 5:11 PM

    southbayra1der says: Feb 12, 2012 2:47 PM

    just keep him tilll his contract is done. i think he has 1 more year. if he wants to return, get em at a lower price . simple . hes made a difference but he makes alot of bonehead mistakes… he easily cost us the ne game … if he can cut the crap hell be fine

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    Agree but, chances are that he’ll play great in the last year of his contract like they all do. That’s when you bring 1-2 young D-lineman to learn from him and capitalize on the double team he gets every play. Another Lamar Houston and someone to compete with Tommy Kelly will make the Raiders front-4 tops in the NFL. Next, find run-stopping LBs. Check: nfltraderumors.co/2012-nfl-free-agents/ .

  31. lunarpie says: Feb 12, 2012 5:19 PM

    schwinnbanger says: Feb 12, 2012 3:27 PM

    Sure would be nice to see a post season game again. I remember when Oakland was practically a “shoe in” for making the playoffs year after year. I don’t care who they cut, who they hire, who they draft. I’d like to care, but really, who has anything to say about that other than the Raider Organization. I just want one thing. WIN BABY!
    —————-

    Oh yeh! This team is headed back to GREATNESS! Sure he did some crazy stuff n took chances, but Al Davis RIP is an NFL icon forever . He changed football to be what it is now and all the haters are ignorant and should be grateful. With Reggie in charge this team is going to live out what Al Davis dreamed! He just couldn’t and wouldn’t give up. He went down swinging! The Raiders just needed someone to take over who could deal with the modern day pressures of being a GM and Reggie Mckenzie is exactly that person. He will listen to Al Davis’ when he said, ‘JUST WIN BABY!’

  32. lunarpie says: Feb 12, 2012 5:38 PM

    joetoronto says: Feb 12, 2012 3:26 PM

    Oh no they don’t.

    They have Desmond Bryant ready to go, and the kid looks awesome, and they have Lamar Houston, who’s been playing out of position at DE.

    What they need is another DE, but I have a feeling Wimbley will fill that need, instead of playing LB.

    At least I hope so.
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    Desmond Bryant is solid. The D-line still needs 1 or 2 more at both DE and DT. Wimbley stay at OLB. He’s a good combination of run-stopper and pass-defender. Aaron Curry and Rolando McClain simply need a D-coordinator who knows how to use them and CBs and Safeties that can be reliable pass defenders. Then the Defense will be able to stop the run better and we’ll be 2012 AFC West Champions.

  33. blackbeard43 says: Feb 12, 2012 5:41 PM

    Wouldn’t be surprised to see Oakland run a primarily 3-4 defense w/ big sey at end. They have a pretty good rotation of linemen with only a massive NT missing and maybe a game-changer at LB.

  34. wyrdawg says: Feb 12, 2012 6:29 PM

    Erik Kramer’s never been the same.

  35. lunarpie says: Feb 12, 2012 8:26 PM

    AFC West 2012:
    1st place: Oakland- Defense plays disciplined football and is top ranked and the Offense has a QB that’s prepared and in-shape with a backfield that’s healthy and the WR’s speed open the field up.
    2nd place: KC- Romeo Crennel brings in some young talent on Offense and the Defense gels.
    3rd place: SD- Phillip Rivers gets some help on the O-line but its not enough because the Defense is still in the beginning stage of rebuilding.
    4th place: Denver- Tebow is given an honest chance to be a QB but Defenses know his game and the Tebowmania comes to an end. Defense is solid, but is on the field too much because the Offense is failing.

  36. raiderlyfe510 says: Feb 12, 2012 10:37 PM

    Is this news? Why would you cut a team leader that everybody looks up too? He flew in all the Raider Players to train during the lockout on his own dime. You don’t cut players like that.

    A player like Seymour will only help Dennis Allen implement his system.

  37. radrntn says: Feb 13, 2012 11:53 AM

    Guys like Seymour are part of the solution, not part of the problem. We need more production from Houston, and Wimbley this season up front on D. Play of the safety and Lb in pass coverage was our biggest weakness.
    I will say early on in the season our biggest problem was the run defense on the edges , ends around etc….Aaaron Curry stopped all that the day he got there. He might have been the biggest addition last year for the raiders.
    I would love to try to pick niners pocket for Goldson, but 9ers will probably put the tag on him.

  38. rc33 says: Feb 13, 2012 12:21 PM

    It’s mind-boggling how much Big Sey has fleeced these guys the past 3 years.
    He’s a good player; not great. 15 sacks in 3 seasons; just 29 total tackles last year.
    At the end of the upcoming season he’ll have taken well over $50 million for 4 seasons work….with not one playoff appearance.
    Seymour’s not the reason Oakland didn’t get to the postseason but at no time was he the “last piece of the puzzle” that was gonna put the Raiders over the top….and therein lies the problem.
    With the holes Oakland has, and giving up a 1st round pick, the trade never made sense.

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