Vikings stadium project losing urgency

The effort to build a new stadium for the Vikings once again has encountered the biggest possible obstacle to its success.

The Minneapolis Star Tribune reports that the sense of urgency at the State Capitol has diminished.  And it’s not surprising.  As Vikings V.P. of stadium wrangling Lester Bagley told PFT Live earlier this year, the Vikings must tell the league by February 15 if they plan to relocate for the 2012 season.

If Wednesday comes and goes without the Vikings expressing an intent to move, the Vikings are stuck in Minnesota in 2012.  So where would they play?

And that’s where this thing gets even weirder.  The Vikings have no lease for 2012.

The power then would shift to the powers-that-be in Minnesota, who could insist on something more than a one-year Band-Aid lease.  Then what would the Vikings do?  (That said, the state still contends that snow damage in 2010 extended the lease by one year; the Vikings could save face by agreeing to that position and treating 2012 as their lame-duck year.)

Either way, the Vikings need to do something other than hope that the situation will get resolved.  They seem to have no desire to move, and they have done nothing to create the impression that they will.

Maybe the Vikings fear that taking a hard line will backfire.  Maybe the Vikings believe that, if they pretend they want to go, folks in Minnesota will shrug and say, “Fine.  Go.”

Regardless, the situation is no closer to being resolved.  The only viable plan remains the construction of a new building adjacent to the Metrodome.  Contrary to a recent item from Sid Hartman of the Star Tribune that the Vikings would have to spend an entire season playing at the University of Minnesota’s open-air, undersized venue, the Star Tribune now says that the Vikings would be able to stay at the Metrodome for “all but a few games” in 2016, the year the facility would open.

If they don’t get this thing figured out, at some point the Vikings will have to entertain the thought of playing more than a few games in another part of the country.

52 responses to “Vikings stadium project losing urgency

  1. That’s what you always get with an “out-of-town” owner…old new yorker Ziggy.

    He’s in it for one thing…the MONEY.

    I think the Browns’ owner lives in New York too.

  2. The Dome is the worst facility in sports!! I refuse to take my 3 year old son because I have to hold him up above the TRAUF to pee! we are school in summertime “no class” Skol vikes

  3. sorry vikes, looks like your team still ends up in Los Angeles. At least we will appreciate football here in a superior city

  4. Vikings commit to L.A. on Tuesday, ground-breaking ceremony @ Grand Crossings on Wednesday. Minnesota can/will throw out roadblocks until Zygi makes a decision… so make one!

  5. When the roof caved in, the Vikes played in Detroit. I’m sure they could play a few of their home games there. Mr. Ford, the Lions’ owner is a class guy.

  6. I had to suffer living near “The Cities” for one year, a type of forced exile for a Wisconsin native. All I heard from the locals was how lucky I was to leave that “cow manure infested land of cheese heads and beer farts” and live, you know, near civilization.

    Fast forward: they get some old guy with the “4” on his jersey, they have NFL owner after owner with no local ties, the team slides, the roof collapses, and their legislature dawdles. Did I mention they were the worst team in the division last year?

    Green Bay: 15-2, adding onto one of the most revered stadiums in sports, a waiting list longer than the actual number of seats available, one year removed from a Super Bowl title and the league’s MVP.

    Having moved back I must say: the air is just fine here, sportswise.

  7. When the Vikes move to LA they’ll move into the NFC West with SF, AZ and Seattle.

    The Rams will join the NFC North until they move to London.

    Once they’ve moved to London the Rams will join the NFC South and the Bucs will rejoin the NFC North.

    This will all take about 10 years but it will happen.

  8. I also just read on Minnesporta that someone threw in a plan for a Duluth stadium. These guys need to get on the same page and stop worrying about their personal agendas.

  9. Mr. Wilf, find yourself another city. The Twin Cities aren’t an NFL caliber city anymore. They’ve proven that over the past several years.

    Find out what L.A. is offering, and for fun, see what interest San Antonio may have. But kiss Minnesota goodbye. They don’t want an NFL franchise, and they don’t deserve one.

  10. You want some urgency? Have the Vikings come out with a statement that says they plan to move in the next 3 days. There will be a deal struck by the end of the week in MN.

  11. funny how they had money to build the Twins a new ballpark but no money can be used to build a new football stadium.Go west Ziggy go to LA and get yourself a nice suntan and a trophy girlfriend.The Hollywood Vikings….

  12. bigjim50010 says:
    Feb 13, 2012 8:05 AM
    lol……0-4 and zero support for a stadium….talk more smack about how green bay sucks…..lol.

    Why is it everytime they talk about the Vikings on this website we have cheesy Packer Backers chiming in, you have nothing better to do,

    Sounds to me like you are in need of a little confidence for your team, the Giants game still stings a little so lets go after another team to make you feel better.

  13. 1) There is no more bailout money or taxpayer handouts (welfare) for the vikings in Minnesota.

    2) Nobody has yet made the case why a 64,000 capacity stadium has to be torn down to be replaced by a 64,000 capacity stadium.

    3) The vikings are not that popular in Minnesota. They did not even sell 50,000 season tickets last season. People only see the players when they are going to court.

    4) The vikings are hundreds of millions of dollars in debt already and can’t afford the costs of relocation to Los Angeles.

    5) Their best move is to relocate where a large stadium already exists and become the first international team. Mexico City or Guadalajara would be perfect for the vikings. Those cities have more football fans than Minneapolis and could sell more tickets. There is a lot more money to be made South of the Border by becoming Mexico’s team.

    It makes much more sense than London.

  14. I think Ziggy has made it perfectly clear that he wants to keep the tean Minnesota. Ziggy will make money no matter where his team is. Maybe Ziggy and the Wilfs just want to go broke. Then all you nasayers will be happy. I bet Ziggy just sits at home an hopes everyone goes broke in their lives.
    Ziggys job is to make money, whats yours to sit back and collect welfare. Dont know what the big deal is.

    Maybe piss and moan about the politicans making all the money they do with retirement, free health care, etc etc, and not doing a damn thing but bicker and argue amongst themselves…. and then worry about rich people, it you want to be rich then get off your ass and make it. Dont hate the ones who are.

  15. I’m conflicted on this situation. 1st I would point out that the NFL could build a stadium there with there own money. Just like most of the country Minnesota is in major debt because of reckless spending. The party does end people someone has to pay the bills unfortunately this reality is coming to citys threw out this country. I agree that there will be a team in la before the decade is up and I would point out that most of the stadium proposals out there are privately founded. I just belive that all these sports teams should build there own stadium they are not hurting for money.

  16. This isn’t a big deal, entertainment-wise. The MN legislature already spent $300 million on fixing up the Guthrie Theatre and $110 million on refurbishing the exterior of the Cedar-Riverside crack stacks.

    According to Minnesota logic, this makes them more cultured, classy and intelligent than the lowly states with their peasant, barbaric NFL football. Does Green Bay even have a Center for Interpretive Dance?

  17. bigjim50010 says:
    Feb 13, 2012 8:05 AM

    Why is it everytime they talk about the Vikings on this website we have cheesy Packer Backers chiming in, you have nothing better to do.
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    Maybe because Viking fans do the same thing on Packer articles. That would seem to indicate Minnesota people ALSO have nothing better to do, despite how much they love to brag about how much more hip and awesome their state is. Newsflash: Minnesota and Wisconsin are the same freaking state. The only difference is Wisconsin is the leader in dairy products and Minnesota is the leader in hipsters/arrogance.

  18. After all these years of being screwed over by Minnesota and their, so called, fans; this TRUE fan says the Vikings should schedule the next two to three years to split their home game between London and Toronto … until LA is ready for them. The Vikings deserve better than that which Minnesota and its “fans” have given.

  19. I’m no Vikings fan, but I find it ridiculous that a story about their stadium issues always prompts a thundering herd of idiotic comments from Packers fans. Really, what’s the point in beating on the Vikings while they’re down? They won like two games last year and their stadium’s a hellhole. Exactly what is there to be gained by taunting them further?

  20. You Green Bay Fans are hilarious!!! You sucka’s didn’t even make it to the championship game this year after such a great run.

    Maybe your hollywood double discount actors can pick up some side work now that there big time movie stars and forgot how to win games when it counts.

    Too bad state farm couldn’t write that script too…

  21. Maybe because Viking fans do the same thing on Packer articles. That would seem to indicate Minnesota people ALSO have nothing better to do, despite how much they love to brag about how much more hip and awesome their state is. Newsflash: Minnesota and Wisconsin are the same freaking state. The only difference is Wisconsin is the leader in dairy products and Minnesota is the leader in hipsters/arrogance.

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    You forgot to mention you guys are the soul provider of for this country of ELITIST FOOTBALL FANS.

  22. Does Green Bay even have a Center for Interpretive Dance?

    Get over yourself…yes they do..they have University of Wisconsin and St Norbert College right there ..and PLEEEEZE..when was the last time YOU’ve been to the Guthrie?

  23. California is a leader in the dairy business too, Maybe you are on to something, If the Packers grow some vines, they can have Cheese and Whine together,

  24. sorry vikes, looks like your team still ends up in Los Angeles. At least we will appreciate football here in a superior city

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    Yep, they can stay in LA for a few years until they decide like every other team that has been there to leave. LA attracts and then repels teams like no other city.

  25. kcrobert10 says:
    Feb 13, 2012 10:10 AM
    I’m conflicted on this situation. 1st I would point out that the NFL could build a stadium there with there own money. Just like most of the country Minnesota is in major debt because of reckless spending.

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    That’s a conclusion about which many of us would disagree.

    Minnesota is actually in major debt because it undertaxes rich folks and corporations than you do in taxes.

  26. Ok here’s the situation for those of you who may have had trouble following this. Namely everyone in Minnesota.

    1. The Wilfs wanted a place in the boon doc’s that allowed then parking revenue that they do not get now plus enough land for a couple of strip malls which is how they make there money.

    2. The Politicians however, under extreme pressure to keep the team in Minneapolis have po pooed this idea.

    3. The country where the Wilfs want the stadium have been denied by the legislature, approval to raise taxes, add fee’s, increase gambling and what have you to come up with their share of the money. They’ve presented three plans and all have been rejected.

    4. Meanwhile back in Minneapolis they have proposed a new location almost daily and none of them workable yet. The Wilfs would not get the parking revenue but would contribute less money for these locations.

    5. The Wilfs haven’t thrown their hats in the air yet because in their mind they will get that 1 billion stadium for a third of the price so they win.
    Thus, no reason to talk LA. LA isn’t giving them anything to entice them so thats out.

    Did I mention the legislature also has to deal with a huge indian gaming lobby that is saying, no pull tabs, off track gambling, or non indian casinos to raise the money or you will not get re-elected.

    Yes this is better than a soap opera so stay tuned.

    Did I mention we have a republican legislature and a Democratic governor all vying to say they saved the Vikes from leaving town, please re-elect us.

  27. hodag54501 says:
    Feb 13, 2012 8:47 AM
    I had to suffer living near “The Cities” for one year, a type of forced exile for a Wisconsin native. All I heard from the locals was how lucky I was to leave that “cow manure infested land of cheese heads and beer farts” and live, you know, near civilization.

    Fast forward: they get some old guy with the “4″ on his jersey, they have NFL owner after owner with no local ties, the team slides, the roof collapses, and their legislature dawdles. Did I mention they were the worst team in the division last year?

    Green Bay: 15-2, adding onto one of the most revered stadiums in sports, a waiting list longer than the actual number of seats available, one year removed from a Super Bowl title and the league’s MVP.

    Having moved back I must say: the air is just fine here, sportswise.

    duece5 says:

    You forgot the most recent pink elephant in your 15-2 record: THE ONLY NFL TEAM TO EVER, I MEAN EVER GO 15-1 AND LOSE IN THE FIRST ROUND GAME!! AT YOUR BELOVED “home” nonetheless. So much for the self-proclaimed “dynasty”……not even your MVP could take them anywhere. So where did the MVP and 15-1 record leave you? Uhhh….nowhere!!! Like your armpit in green bay…..it is an absolute armpit!!!

    All you have is the packers, better hope they concentrate more on getting a better defense than “double check” commercials…..or is that “DOUBLE CHOKE!!” DOH!!!!!!

  28. As an LA resident I would love to have an NFL team back here in this great region. The stadium is being built with private money and I hear the NFL is giving a loan. Why isn’t the NFL giving a loan to the Vikings and/or Minnesota to build the stadium?

    It’s completely absurd that a multi billion dollar organization with multi billionaire owners expect the public in a terrible recession to build their places of employment. The NFL is the most arrogant corporation in the world. No other business entity punishes their customers just because they won’t/ can’t buy enough of their over priced product (blackouts). Then these multibillionaires expect the poor cities to build their workplace or they’ll move. Arrogance!

  29. how quick did the Browns Colts Rams Raiders Oilers leave town? Minnesota politicians are clearly not thinking clearly. maybe it was this warm weather in the winter throwing them off.

  30. Minnesota has a more pressing issue in regards to buildings right now. Mainly the capitol building is crumbling. Literally. It is in such a state of disrepair after decades of neglect of upkeep and necessary renovations that if it were an apartment building, it would be condemned. The plumbing and electrical all need to be completely redone and oh, yeah, chunks of marble are falling off.

  31. duece5 says:You forgot the most recent pink elephant in your 15-2 record
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    Well douche5, I’ll take that pink elephant over the vikequeef’s pink elephant of going 3-13 with the 3rd highest payroll in the league plus being one of the most embarrassing stories in pro sports with the lack of ability to resolve the stadium fiasco among all involved parties. Stupid is as stupid does! DAH!

  32. Since the Packers are so popular and their season tickets are sold out until the year 2445, just move the Vikings to Green Bay (pop. 104,057) and they can share Lambeau like the Jets and Giants share Met Life Field.

  33. gb4mn0 says:
    Feb 14, 2012 11:36 AM
    Well douche5, I’ll take that pink elephant over the vikequeef’s pink elephant of going 3-13 with the 3rd highest payroll in the league
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    Funny how anyone on the internet can make up stats without verifying their source? Well, the Vikings are far from top 3 in the highest payroll but the Packers are definitely there. Here is my source, where is yours?

    http://www.altiusdirectory.com/Sports/nfl-salaries.php

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