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Cris Carter thinks Hall of Fame voters don’t appreciate wide receivers

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After getting voted down by the Pro Football Hall of Fame selection committee for the fifth consecutive year, Cris Carter says he thinks the voters oppose his position more than they oppose him.

Speaking to Hall of Fame receiver Michael Irvin on WQAM, Carter suggested that he, Andre Reed and Tim Brown have been the victims of voters who just don’t appreciate the talent of wide receivers.

I just think it’s the wide receiver,” Carter said, via SportsRadioInterviews.com. “I think the modern-day wide receiver, I would say that his skill level is not appreciated. It’s not just about the numbers. It’s the ability to catch the football and put your talent on display.”

Carter may have a point. The receiver position lags behind quarterbacks, running backs, offensive linemen, defensive linemen, linebackers and defensive backs, with only seven receivers in Canton who started their careers after the 1970 AFL-NFL merger: Irvin, Steve Largent, James Lofton, Art Monk, Jerry Rice, John Stallworth and Lynn Swann. And only two of them, Largent and Rice, were selected in their first year of eligibility. Irvin and Lofton were each voted down twice before being selected, Monk and Stallworth were each voted down seven times and Swann was voted down 13 times before finally making it.

In Carter’s opinion, his own numbers compare favorably to Largent’s. Carter questioned why he has been voted down five times while Largent was elected to the Hall of Fame the first year he was eligible.

“If Steve Largent had 130 touchdowns he would have been a first-ballot Hall of Famer. But he didn’t, he had 100 — and he was still a first-ballot Hall of Famer,” Carter said.

On that score Carter’s case isn’t quite as strong: It’s true that Carter’s raw numbers are better than Largent’s, but Carter played in a more passing-friendly offensive environment. When Largent retired he owned the all-time NFL records for catches, receiving yards and receiving touchdowns. Carter never owned any of those records.

Irvin said in his discussion with Carter that he hopes Carter joins him in Canton, and Carter said he has appreciated hearing that from many Hall of Famers, even if the Hall of Fame voters don’t feel the same way.

“When you all say something to me it really means a lot more,” Carter said. “I can’t do no more. I appreciate what you guys are saying and doing and everything, but I pleaded my case those 16 years I played in the league.”

So far, the Hall of Fame voters haven’t thought that case was good enough.

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89 Responses to “Cris Carter thinks Hall of Fame voters don’t appreciate wide receivers”
  1. joetoronto says: Feb 15, 2012 12:19 PM

    My God, where will it end?

  2. youngry says: Feb 15, 2012 12:21 PM

    He’s a bit of a tool and awful on TV but he was an awesome player. The fact that Cris Carter isn’t in the Hall of Fame means there’s something wrong with the process.

  3. waldoampere says: Feb 15, 2012 12:21 PM

    Maybe the voters didn’t think he was good enough.

  4. thereisalwaysnextyear says: Feb 15, 2012 12:21 PM

    Maybe if WR’s weren’t such divas they’d get a little more love/respect from the voters. Funny how the WR’s you mentioned that are in were all apparently pretty good guys and carried themselves well and were good team players.

  5. madtolive5 says: Feb 15, 2012 12:21 PM

    WR is the most overrated position in football.
    These guys just pump themselves up but the show just goes on without them. Look at the core group of WR in this years hall. Did any of the teams really miss them when they retired?

  6. realnflmaster says: Feb 15, 2012 12:23 PM

    Boo-hoo.

  7. ravensfan4life52 says: Feb 15, 2012 12:24 PM

    I think Cris Carter should shut up and stop being a total jerk! (man I wish I could swear on here) Maybe if he got his head out of his butt he would get in.

  8. seahawks80 says: Feb 15, 2012 12:25 PM

    “When Largent retired he owned the all-time NFL records for catches, receiving yards and receiving touchdowns. Carter never owned any of those records.”

    Come on Cris quit begging and dont try to compare yourself to largent!!

  9. psj3809 says: Feb 15, 2012 12:25 PM

    Cris Carter had Randy Moss later on in his career, even had help from Jake Reed for a few years.

    My issue is with Tim Brown. For the majority of Browns career no other WR on the team caught more than 50 passes or a TE until Jerry Rice came on board in 2001, so Brown was the sole focus for the vast majority for a long long time for the Raiders.

    Despite being double teamed or having the opposing teams best CB on him Brown still did it.

    Had a host of QB’s like Schroeder, Hostetler, Hobert, Evans, George and then finally Gannon.

    Brown should be the one moaning about not being in the HOF not Carter.

  10. braven4evr says: Feb 15, 2012 12:27 PM

    Like him or not he does belong…

  11. frankecharms says: Feb 15, 2012 12:28 PM

    All the way back to Otis Taylor. The Hall of Fame is numbers based and voted on by nerds.

  12. thom4msu says: Feb 15, 2012 12:29 PM

    Man, does this Whitney bitch like to be in the news or what?

  13. bigjdve says: Feb 15, 2012 12:29 PM

    Receivers probably have a harder time because they actually require someone to aide them most of their statistics namely the QB.

    Also if you look at it, Rice and Largent both were the best of the best when they played either for part or all of their careers.

    When most of the other receivers were playing, there was always someone there. With Swann, there was Stallworth, they were even on the same team. So while both were some of the best to play, it is harder to make the argument that both of them were better than everyone else.

    In Carter’s case, he is just a tool, and his mouth and personality overshadow everything else about him.

  14. unitedstateoftexas says: Feb 15, 2012 12:30 PM

    If your skills as a WR didn’t get you into the HOF your skills as a professional cry baby won’t either.

  15. zaggs says: Feb 15, 2012 12:30 PM

    Well receiver is about the only position on the field that is near to 100% dependent on someone else to make a play.

  16. bnwpnw says: Feb 15, 2012 12:31 PM

    Actually Cris, it’s you.

  17. lemmam says: Feb 15, 2012 12:32 PM

    wr’s is the most overrated position in fb? QB’s, WR’s and CB’s are the most important positions on the field. Have you ever watched a pro football game?

  18. seahawks80 says: Feb 15, 2012 12:35 PM

    Cris i think your phone is ringing, its the HOF for beggers and whiners calling

  19. pleasantsurpriselefty says: Feb 15, 2012 12:36 PM

    Cris was a good, but not great player. A lot of his “numbers” were as a result of playing 16 years and not because he was a dominating player. And let’s be real about it, the fact that he was and continues to be a first class putz doesn’t help. Why divas (see TO) don ‘t realize this is perplexing.

    If he was a nicer guy he’d be in, plain and simple. Not fair, maybe. Truthful, for sure.

  20. mogogo1 says: Feb 15, 2012 12:38 PM

    Carter may still get in. If Lynn Swann could wait 13 years, I have no problem with Carter waiting a while. The problem isn’t that voters hate wide receivers, it’s that voters know how much the game has changed. Passing numbers have exploded over the past 25 years. All current players’ numbers look amazing compared to the guys who played in the 70s when d-backs could essentially tackle guys downfield to keep them from getting open.

  21. Clara K. Showalter says: Feb 15, 2012 12:39 PM

    There’s 5 slots a year to vote in HoF guys. There’s 15 positions if you look at it simply. So what other position players should get the boot? Do you vote in 3 WR and ignore tackles? Do you ignore coaches or GMs?

    The bottom line is there’s a math issue. You’ve got tons of very deserving guys at all positions, and only 5 open slots. Do you vote in CC and ignore Les Richter again? He’d been waiting a heck of a lot longer than Carter.

    Tell me Cris, which of this year’s HOF recipients should have been dissed so you could get in?

  22. thankheavenfornumberseven says: Feb 15, 2012 12:40 PM

    They don’t appreciate d-bags either.

  23. war27 says: Feb 15, 2012 12:40 PM

    zaggs says: Feb 15, 2012 12:30 PM

    Well receiver is about the only position on the field that is near to 100% dependent on someone else to make a play.

    ————————

    Where would Emmitt Smith be without the 5 guys in front of him and a very good QB/WR/TE to open up the run for him?

    He wouldn’t be in the hall without the cast around him. Most of the HOF players needed their team to get them there. It’s the ultimate team sport.

  24. bigdogsolec says: Feb 15, 2012 12:42 PM

    Personaly ,i think the guys in the Hall Of Fame ” still alive” should be the voters on “WHO THEY THINK SHOULD HAVE THE HONOR OF JOINING THEM” they keep saying the NFL is a TEAM sport, the HOF’s are still team members ” so to speak” the voters arn’t a member of any NFL team.
    just think of what king arthurs round table woulda looked like if the pheasants got to pick the members of the table

  25. chedberg88 says: Feb 15, 2012 12:42 PM

    No need to generalize. They just don’t like you.

  26. cleverbob says: Feb 15, 2012 12:43 PM

    Thumbs up if you think Megatron gets in first

  27. cowboyhater says: Feb 15, 2012 12:46 PM

    In true form Chris. You must have been wearing you wife beater when making these comments.

    Come on man!!

  28. minkytails says: Feb 15, 2012 12:48 PM

    lemmam, have YOU ever watched a pro football game? A game is won or lost based on the play of your offensive and defensive lines.

  29. efriedo says: Feb 15, 2012 12:49 PM

    psj3809 says: Feb 15, 2012 12:25 PM

    “My issue is with Tim Brown. For the majority of Browns career no other WR on the team caught more than 50 passes or a TE until Jerry Rice came on board in 2001, so Brown was the sole focus for the vast majority for a long long time for the Raiders.”

    ***********************************

    Well said! Another thing about Tim Brown is that he came out of college as a speedster, but he had a bad knee injury in his first season. He adjusted his game and became a possession receiver with no fear of going over the middle. He had an uncanny ability to juke and run the go-route as well. And he never got injured for the rest of his career because he learned to preserve his body by getting down and not taking the big hit. This helped him have a long, productive career.

    Tim Brown is in the top 5 in most receiving catagories all time. Yet, because he wasn’t flashy, he will probably wait a few more years to be a HOFer.

    Unfortunately, Jack*sses like Randy Moss will probably get in first even though he quit on multiple teams and really only had 4 or 5 really good years…

  30. colinsnooks says: Feb 15, 2012 12:51 PM

    zaggs says:
    Feb 15, 2012 12:30 PM
    Well receiver is about the only position on the field that is near to 100% dependent on someone else to make a play.
    —————-
    Come on man, QBs & RBs are dependent on the O-line, all defensive positions need to work together to defend effectively. Basically everyone is dependent on everyone else all the time. Team sport dude.

  31. mulletcork says: Feb 15, 2012 12:53 PM

    Cris Carter is just not a Hall of Famer. Highly overrated and completely impossible to listen to on BSPN. The guy’s ego is out of control.

  32. lolb23 says: Feb 15, 2012 12:53 PM

    Megatron will make HOF. Just sayin’

  33. cavemanna says: Feb 15, 2012 12:55 PM

    Whatever. Based on his stats he should be in, no question

  34. pocketsstraight says: Feb 15, 2012 12:56 PM

    It is the HALL OF FAME

    not the hall of really good…

    Rice and Carter played during the same era.

    Rice has 8000 more yards, 67 more TDs, and 20 yards per game more.

    Carter is not even top 50 in the efficiency metrics.

    What about Carter makes him a HOFer?

    He was great, no doubt, he was not a HOFer.

  35. nagaswan says: Feb 15, 2012 12:56 PM

    Actually WR is the most overrated position in football, and probably American sports in general. The best WRs of this generation? Randy Moss, T.O., Calvin Johnson, Andre Johnson, Larry Fitzgerald, superbowl appearances: 3, superbowls won 0. It is the QB, plain and simple.

  36. madstork87 says: Feb 15, 2012 1:01 PM

    psj3809 says:
    Feb 15, 2012 12:25 PM
    Cris Carter had Randy Moss later on in his career, even had help from Jake Reed for a few years.

    My issue is with Tim Brown. For the majority of Browns career no other WR on the team caught more than 50 passes or a TE until Jerry Rice came on board in 2001, so Brown was the sole focus for the vast majority for a long long time for the Raiders.

    Despite being double teamed or having the opposing teams best CB on him Brown still did it.

    Had a host of QB’s like Schroeder, Hostetler, Hobert, Evans, George and then finally Gannon.

    Brown should be the one moaning about not being in the HOF not Carter.
    ___________________________________

    I would also think that being a top 5 all time punt returner and the oldest man to ever return a punt for a TD would be a legit tiebreaker for Brown over Carter/Reed since their numbers are pretty similar and none of them have any rings. I don’t understand how he seems to be third on the pecking order to at least some of the voters…

  37. peytonwantsaflag says: Feb 15, 2012 1:02 PM

    what’s to appreciate? egoism? arrogance? Historically and statistically this proven – wide receivers are absolutely the EASIEST position to fill.

    Get over yourself Cris – maybe your mom knew what she was doing when she left that “H” out of your name.

  38. tlmoon2112 says: Feb 15, 2012 1:05 PM

    I would argue that he’s right to a degree but not for the reasons he stated. Simple fact of the matter is that what’s the first thing that comes to mind when someone mentions T.O., Ochocinco, Keyshawn Johnson, Hines Ward, and Plaxico Burriss………..angst, thats what. These are the faces of today’s Wide Reciever corps in the NFL, nothing but a bunch of chump jaw-jackers that under-perform. Want to make the HOF? Catch the football when its thrown to you, be a leader on your team, a model citizen to the community and let the stats speak for themselves. If you need someone to model after, try Jerry Rice, Fred Biletnikoff, Steve Largent, Lynn Swann or Art Monk. First things first though, SHUT UP AND PUT IT ON THE FIELD.

  39. lionfan419 says: Feb 15, 2012 1:05 PM

    This is the same guy who said Megatron isn’t in the top 5 WR in NFL right?

  40. tatum064 says: Feb 15, 2012 1:06 PM

    nagaswan says:
    Feb 15, 2012 12:56 PM
    Actually WR is the most overrated position in football, and probably American sports in general. The best WRs of this generation? Randy Moss, T.O., Calvin Johnson, Andre Johnson, Larry Fitzgerald, superbowl appearances: 3, superbowls won 0. It is the QB, plain and simple.

    ==========================

    And who do Quarterbacks throw to genius? Including Super Bowl game winning TD passes?

    Hello? Santonio Holmes? John Taylor? The position itself creates the QB legacy, and the largest totals, and game changing plays put QB’s in Super Bowls.

    Is it so hard to make that connection?

    FAIL

    Thanks for playing , drive home safely.

  41. nannymcsack says: Feb 15, 2012 1:06 PM

    it’s because you won’t shut up about it.

  42. jeremycrowhurst says: Feb 15, 2012 1:08 PM

    nagaswan says:Feb 15, 2012 12:56 PM

    Actually WR is the most overrated position in football, and probably American sports in general. The best WRs of this generation? Randy Moss, T.O., Calvin Johnson, Andre Johnson, Larry Fitzgerald, superbowl appearances: 3, superbowls won 0. It is the QB, plain and simple.

    ————

    Yeah, and Jerry Rice, Michael Irvin, Marvin Harrison, Reggie Wayne, and Isaac Bruce don’t have any rings either. Oh wait….

  43. dempsey63 says: Feb 15, 2012 1:13 PM

    Steve Largent as a first-ballot Hall of Fame inductee first struck me as overkill, but then I went back and looked at footage that showed him setting up defensive backs with cat-quick out patterns and then double-out moves and finally double-outs followed by “Goodbye!” fly patterns that left multiple jockstraps in his wake.

    Awesome. Flat-out awesome.

  44. cavemanna says: Feb 15, 2012 1:14 PM

    if thats the case then Irvin doesnt belong, Carter’s stats dwarf Michael’s

  45. clayton43 says: Feb 15, 2012 1:15 PM

    “I can’t do no more. I appreciate what you guys are saying and doing and everything, but I pleaded my case those 16 years I played in the league.”………………………………………………………….

    Ok then shut up about it… I never minded him while playing but after so many years of his crying and his act on tv I cant stand him. I hope he never gets in EVER and I think all Superbowl parties should be partially for him not getting in once again and everyone saying a Cheers !! He was not a TEAM player.. He was a ME player and person and still is.

  46. rc33 says: Feb 15, 2012 1:18 PM

    Any chance Carter’s gonna come to the realization that no one cares what he thinks?
    About anything?

  47. cliffordc05 says: Feb 15, 2012 1:21 PM

    I wish Cris Carter would shut his pie hole. What a whiner.

  48. tdk24 says: Feb 15, 2012 1:25 PM

    It’s too bad that Brown didn’t get in sooner so Mr. Al Davis could present him. That would have been the icing on the cake.

  49. granadafan says: Feb 15, 2012 1:27 PM

    Listening to Cris (sic) bash other players, pump himself up, and drone on endlessly, it’s no wonder there is a backlash against this dirtbag. I was a pro-Carter fan, but not anymore. I hope he never gets in now.

  50. godofwine330 says: Feb 15, 2012 1:35 PM

    I have taken football as a religion since 1987 when I was 10 years old and he has the best hands I have ever seen.

    Like glue.

    Field awareness. Wow. There is a reason they call it the tippy toe catch on the sideline and that reason is Cris Carter. He made catches on the sideline where you were left befuddled as to how he got both feet down, but you look at the replay and, yup, two feet down, every time.

    Did his drug/alcohol problem get him run out of Philly and almost the NFL? Yes. But he pulled his head out of the darkest of places in his 7th year to post his first of 8 straight 1000 yard seasons! Remarkable.

    Is he kind of a contempible person? Yes, but players are judged on not whether you like them as people, but by the way they performed on the field. I hear that Ty Cobb was one of the most contemptible people in the history of sports (I know that is baseball) but he is still in the Hall of Fame. It is what you do on the field that should count the most, and 8 straight Pro-Bowl 1000 yard seasons where he displayed hands like glue and extended the field 7 feet with his patented sideline catches is more than enough proof that he should be in the Hall.

  51. gacoltfan says: Feb 15, 2012 1:38 PM

    This is why having only writers select the HOF does not work. Coaches and former players know better how good someone was and whether they had to gameplan on stopping certain players.

    Stats, especially for WR’s are only one part of the equation. Who is the better WR, the guy that gets double teamed on every play, but still catches 80 balls, or the guy being single covered and catching 100? Irvin played with good TE’s and other good WR’s, and more importantly had a RB that forced a defense to play 8 men in the box.

  52. whyalwaysthehate says: Feb 15, 2012 1:40 PM

    Anyone remember any “best of CC” highlights? Championship runs? Games to remember? The catch? ESPN nostalgia pieces? Rivals talking about the special coverages devised to stop him? Games he ran away with?

    I don’t hear of many old teammates complaining either.

    You can’t bitch your way into the Hall.

    No.

  53. peytonwantsaflag says: Feb 15, 2012 1:43 PM

    “Hello? Santonio Holmes? John Taylor? The position itself creates the QB legacy, and the largest totals, and game changing plays put QB’s in Super Bowls.”
    ————————————————————–

    hey tatum – you just proved all of our points that wide receiver is overrated and easily replaceable.

    tell me in what other position can you get rid of the SUPERBOWL MVP and not miss a beat?

    No – thank YOU for playing.

  54. thankheavenfornumberseven says: Feb 15, 2012 1:44 PM

    Carter is a jerk, but he should be in the HOF. Not because of his numbers, but because if you ever saw him play you know that he may be the best ever at catching the ball.

  55. ebeg420 says: Feb 15, 2012 1:57 PM

    WR’s don’t get in because they are OVER RATED in the 1st place. He would be 1st ballot Fantasy Football Hall Of Famer but not in the real world, being a prick doesn’t help either.

    How can anyone suggest that Cris Carter made his teams that much better?

    How many RINGS does he have?

  56. phillyphinsfan says: Feb 15, 2012 2:01 PM

    Egomaniac

  57. rajbais says: Feb 15, 2012 2:02 PM

    He’s freakin’ correct!!!

    Sportswriters put no emphasis on the fact that these guys run much of the time for no purpose!!!! For a WR, it’s a catch, it’s a miscommunication, or a sprint!!!!

    Plus, does everyone know how many quarterbacks suck without them????
    Quarterbacks, running backs, and defensive ends get in with statistical evidence!!! Even a tight end like Ozzie Newsome got in even with stats supporting him even though John Mackey was the true Godfather of tight ends!!!!

    It’s okay to put a WR in because of stats!!! Why because the longer you can do it the greater you are!!!! How many great players play great without putting up numbers??? Did Joe Montana have a good number of gaudy stat years??? Is anyone smart enough to realize that the way that someone executes is the reason for greatness????

    Some people execute with whatever opportunities they have or the system or supporting players that surround them!!!! Others execute to the point where their statistics explode!!! These writers are not good or too lazy to look into why these numbers are the way they are!!!! That is why the game tape people need to be our deciders!!!!

  58. nacman81 says: Feb 15, 2012 2:02 PM

    HOF voters don’t appreciate WR’S ? Or HOF voters don’t appreciate him?

  59. uncletuna says: Feb 15, 2012 2:04 PM

    He should never be voted in after that display, and with Michael Irving of all people…

    And Carter is no where in the same league as Steve Largent or Timmy Brown…

  60. bearsrulepackdrool says: Feb 15, 2012 2:05 PM

    Lol, if they don’t care for WR now. I can’t imagine what will happen when today’s WR go into the Hall of Fame. You can’t hit the WR off the line of scrimmage. The whole “defenseless receiver” non-sense. The Calvin Johnson, Andre Johnson, and Larry Fitzgerald’s of the world might not get in either on the first ballad. All they do is outreach the little guy for the football. Nothing compared to what these guys went through.

  61. ninerdynasty says: Feb 15, 2012 2:05 PM

    What i dont understand is how Carter doesn’t make it in but Irvin a player with a lot off the field issues that numbers don’t come close to cater’s makes it in his first try? lets not add how Jerry Rice (the best WR ever and possibly a top 3 player of all time) on his HOF ceremony got outshined by Emmitt Smith a player that is not even in the top 30 all time

    hmm a little cowboy biased people?

  62. youngry says: Feb 15, 2012 2:09 PM

    It is the HALL OF FAME

    not the hall of really good…

    Rice and Carter played during the same era.

    Rice has 8000 more yards, 67 more TDs, and 20 yards per game more.

    Carter is not even top 50 in the efficiency metrics.

    What about Carter makes him a HOFer?

    He was great, no doubt, he was not a HOFer.
    ___________________________________

    if you’re going to compare WR’s to Jerry Rice then no WR will ever make the HOF ever again. He’s the GOAT, comparing other’s stats to him is completely unfair. Take away Jerry Rice and Cris Carter’s stats match up well with just about any WR. 130 TD’s alone means he should be in the Hall.

  63. gunpowderjones says: Feb 15, 2012 2:16 PM

    ““Hello? Santonio Holmes? John Taylor? The position itself creates the QB legacy, and the largest totals, and game changing plays put QB’s in Super Bowls.”
    ————————————————————–

    hey tatum – you just proved all of our points that wide receiver is overrated and easily replaceable.

    tell me in what other position can you get rid of the SUPERBOWL MVP and not miss a beat?

    No – thank YOU for playing.”

    Yeah, losing Larry Brown killed the Cowboys.

    As long as it’s not a QB, you can likely survive the loss of one guy who happened to be the MVP of one particular game.

    Also, the Steelers really, really could have used Holmes in that loss to the Packers. I absolutely think they win that game if they have him. Assuming he doesn’t pout and they still get there.

  64. ticalcaldwell says: Feb 15, 2012 2:21 PM

    Its not the WR position, its the image of you chickening out on the zip line………..come on man….

  65. jhumbe says: Feb 15, 2012 2:22 PM

    nobody will ever like WRs and as much as they like themselves… its impossible i tell you

  66. ron69 says: Feb 15, 2012 2:38 PM

    This is easy, some voters go for Carter, others for Brown, others like Reed better, they block each other. voters should make up their mind and pick one for year.

  67. trueski21 says: Feb 15, 2012 2:54 PM

    he’s 4th all time in receptions

  68. krashie21 says: Feb 15, 2012 3:00 PM

    Carter’s comments demonstrate what kind of impact cocaine has in the long-term.

    Clearly he’s a little delusional.

    He has the numbers and he deserves to get in, but that’s all he has and he still doesn’t “get it”……

    Every WR in the HOF has intanglibles that Carter will never have.

    Irvin is in because of his leadership…..without him, those Cowboys teams would never have won 3 in 4 years.

    Largent is in because he is an HOF with the numbers when he retired and he’s a class guy.

    CC has none of those things and he alienated himself from virtually everyone he came in contact with.

    Too bad, no one has told him this…..maybe if he came out with a mea culpa he might win back some people, but his ego is so out of control it will never happen.

  69. nightrain42 says: Feb 15, 2012 3:09 PM

    Andre reed doesn’t belong. Inflated numbers from a gimmick offense.

  70. krashie21 says: Feb 15, 2012 3:28 PM

    ninerdynasty says:
    Feb 15, 2012 2:05 PM
    What i dont understand is how Carter doesn’t make it in but Irvin a player with a lot off the field issues that numbers don’t come close to cater’s makes it in his first try? lets not add how Jerry Rice (the best WR ever and possibly a top 3 player of all time) on his HOF ceremony got outshined by Emmitt Smith a player that is not even in the top 30 all time

    hmm a little cowboy biased people?
    _________________________________

    Can’t decide what’s funnier…….Carter’s whining and crying, or the fact that you think there’s a bias FOR Cowboys to get into the HOF????

    Where have you been??? The HOF voting committee has overlooked the Cowboys for years and with people like Balzer, Ira Ledger and especially Peter King carrying the anti-Cowboys media bias, that’s why ‘Boys fans like me get on here calling for at the very least, a fair and just process…..because Dallas has suffered from the yellow journalism and bias of the committee.

    And try giving your opinion to:
    - Drew Pearson
    - Harvey Martin (RIP)
    - Cliff Harris
    - Ed Jones
    - Charles Haley

    There are 5 HOF-ers right there that should be in the Hall today…….for example, Harris is the only member of the NFL’s all-time 70s team NOT in the HOF.

    And suggesting that Michael Irvin and Emmitt Smith shouldn’t be in the HOF shows you know nothing about football and nothing about those Cowboys teams……..

  71. raidermick says: Feb 15, 2012 3:48 PM

    Where is Cliff Branch’s name? It’s make me wanna puke that Timmy would go in before Cliff (Speed Kills) Branch. This guy has three rings and played in all 3 SB’s all won by the Raiders…

    Branch has better stats than Swann – check it out..

    Why is he not in and steve freaking media lovin largent is….

    Late

  72. kaientai72 says: Feb 15, 2012 3:52 PM

    Cris Carter = 100 percent correct. All three (Reed, Carter and Brown) are HOF worthy and they have earned their place. Carter was a top five guy on the football list from http://www.notinhalloffame.com and his was the biggest snub. Having said that, it is hard to complain about the snub without seemingly ehining either.

  73. deadmanwalking47 says: Feb 15, 2012 3:53 PM

    cris carter will never get in the hall of fame as long as he whines and pouts about his cause like he is.personally,i would’nt want him on my team because he is like albert haynesworth,a team cancer!

  74. deadmanwalking47 says: Feb 15, 2012 3:59 PM

    he should try out for the new version of mr ed with john elway!

  75. istuppingyourwhiteewe says: Feb 15, 2012 4:01 PM

    Whether I think Carter should be in the Hall is irrelevant, but for crying out loud be quiet and stop whining. It’s not helping your case! Show some humility, some genuine humility, not what modern athletes seem to think it means; “the whole experience has made me so humble.” Has it now? Jerk off!!

  76. radrntn says: Feb 15, 2012 4:11 PM

    fact is it all east coast bias…nothing more, nothing less

  77. tdk24 says: Feb 15, 2012 4:21 PM

    “whyalwaysthehate says:
    Feb 15, 2012 1:40 PM
    Anyone remember any “best of CC” highlights? Championship runs? Games to remember? The catch? ESPN nostalgia pieces? Rivals talking about the special coverages devised to stop him? Games he ran away with?

    I don’t hear of many old teammates complaining either.

    You can’t bitch your way into the Hall.

    No.”

    When I think of CC, I think of “the complain”. Which is what he did to the refs every time he dropped a ball.

  78. rameyag says: Feb 15, 2012 4:22 PM

    The main problem I have with someone bitterly complaining about his non-election to a hall of fame is this — if you truly were a hall-of-fame player — like a Jerry Rice, Raymond Berry, or Paul Warfield, you are going to be selected on the first ballot. All, by the way, were WRs. The other notables — Don Hutson, Fred Biletnikoff, Don Maynard, and Steve Largent — were simply among the top 3 WRs of their eras. CC’s problem is that some voters simply can’t bring themselves to conclude that he was one of the top three WRs in his era because his era was filled with so many excellent WRs. The voters don’t want to fill the hall with WRs simply because they have numbers inflated by rules preventing defenders from hitting the QB or essentially touching WRs after 5 yards. Can you blame them?

  79. trollhammer20 says: Feb 15, 2012 4:27 PM

    Please do not mention Cris Carter….or the majority of any WRs who played since DBs had their hands tied…in the same sentence as Steve Largent.

    Steve Largent was a 5’11″, 180 lb, #1 wide receiver. If you think that’s some kind of joke, you never saw him play. Even more than being a wide receiver, he was a football player. The two plays from his career that I remember the most are: 1) The hit he put on Mike Harden after an INT. Harden had cheap-shotted him in Denver earlier that year, and in the rematch, Harden gets a pick and Largent puts one of the greatest hits of all-time on him forcing a fumble and leaving Harden dizzy. Youtube search “Largent hit on Harden” for the video. 2) On a screen pass against the Bears in the 80s, he gets out front and puts a textbook block on Mike Singletary, who outweighed him by 60-70 pounds, to spring John L. Williams for a 75 yard touchdown.

    Lester Hayes called Largent the best WR he ever played against. Carter would have been so much roadkill under Lester’s cleats.

  80. nfceastisbeast says: Feb 15, 2012 4:27 PM

    Carter definitely deserves to be in before Irvin and Swann.

  81. lilrob10201 says: Feb 15, 2012 4:34 PM

    Carter.You will get in the H.O.F within the next 3 years.If not then who ever is the H.O.F voters need to be fired.

  82. momentumtech says: Feb 15, 2012 4:48 PM

    You dont hear any of Carter’s former teammates or coaches championing his cause for the hall.

    Why?

    Because all he cared about was his stats. He never showed up in the big games and hurt his team almost as much as he helped even with his talent.

    Football is the ultimate team game and when your teammates dont think you belong in the hall then who am I to argue?

  83. madstork87 says: Feb 15, 2012 5:14 PM

    Where is Cliff Branch’s name? It’s make me wanna puke that Timmy would go in before Cliff (Speed Kills) Branch. This guy has three rings and played in all 3 SB’s all won by the Raiders…

    Branch has better stats than Swann – check it out..
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    You’re 100% right. On career stats, postseason stats, playing his best against the best in the biggest games, Cliff Branch is a surefire Hall of Famer to anyone he played with or against. the greatest deep threat of his era. For some reason the voters don’t see it that way.

    Cliff has a better case than Carter, Reed, or Brown.

  84. win1soon says: Feb 15, 2012 7:25 PM

    Trying to listen to Irvin interview someone is very hard to take, not sure how the guy has a job in a field where speaking is the #1 task. I would have loved Carter to ask Irvin…do you think YOU should have gotten in the HOF before me? Reed, Carter and Brown should all have been voted in prior to Irvin. For those of you who say Carter is a whiner, does anyone remember Irvin the first year he didn’t get in…cried (literally) and complained about the process.

  85. jeneric82 says: Feb 15, 2012 8:21 PM

    Insane that he is not in yet. Those of you saying that the WR position is overrated…..really? When is the last time that a Quarterback got in the Hall based on his rushing stats? The QB depends 100 percent on receivers to win or lose a game, and Carter was one of the best at it. His only true knock is that he never got a ring, but that is not the deciding factor for HOF membership. I can understand a case against him not getting in on the first ballot, but after 5 years its getting ridiculous. He was a leader on and off the field (after he turned his life around with Minnesota) and had the best hands of anyone except Rice in the NFL.

  86. pocketsstraight says: Feb 15, 2012 9:52 PM

    Cris Carter’s stats match up well with just about any WR

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    No they don’t. His longevity matches up well with just about anyone.

    He is not top 50 in any efficiency stat.

    There are WRs who are on pace or comparable to Rice for efficiency stats. (no one quite as good as him): Andre Johnson, Fiztgerald, Irvin, Sterling Sharpe, Art Monk, Tory Holt, Don Hutson (no idea who that is), Bob Hayes, Steve Largent, Lynn Swane.

    Carter is not on par with those guys

  87. dukemarc says: Feb 16, 2012 10:15 AM

    Chris, I think it’s only one WR that they don’t appreciate. Right or wrong, you pissed off a lot people over the years.

  88. ninerdynasty says: Feb 17, 2012 12:24 AM

    @krashie21 – What a moron you are!! hahah.. i laugh on ur face you idiot! look at the thumbs down you had on your comment.. that shows how wrong you are..

    1- i never said that smith or cokehaead dont belong there.. all i said was that they got in their first ballot without any issues and outshined better players than them on the ceremony they were introduced.

    2- JERY RICE > emitt smith.

    3- you are an idiot! hahahaha

  89. meloy79 says: Feb 23, 2012 8:10 PM

    Of course Cris Carter gets in if the cocaine cowboy Irvin and James Lofton are HOF’ers then Cris is for sure. I mean STOP the character attacks (see Michael Irvin) and the numbers talk (see James Lofton). Just watch a little film, the circus catches the winning TDs and he invented stretching the ball for the first down and if he didn’t invent that little 2 yard Touchdown fade he mastered it, also he has the best hands ever at least according to me and NFL Network but what do they know. Just ask Buddy Ryan all he does is catch Touchdowns.

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