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Mayock: Luck is great, but not a “once in a lifetime” prospect

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NFL Network analyst Mike Mayock is a big Andrew Luck fan. Luck is the top player on Mayock’s board, and Luck’s passion for the game reminds Mayock of Peyton Manning and Matt Ryan.

Mayock just doesn’t see Luck as some sort of “once in a lifetime” prospect like others have indicated.  (Yes, others means ESPN in this case.) Mayock compared Luck’s talent level more to someone like Sam Bradford.

That’s not an insult. Bradford was the top pick in the draft and Mayock is a big supporter of him. In terms of pure talent, Mayock said Luck isn’t quite at Peyton Manning’s level.  He wouldn’t necessarily expect Luck to suddenly become Manning or Tom Brady.

Mayock also said on a conference call Wednesday that he loves “everything” about Robert Griffin III, calling the Heisman Trophy winner one of the most exciting players in the last few drafts. He thought the Browns would be well served to look at trading up for Griffin.

Add up the two comments, and this draft has two terrific quarterback prospects. There just isn’t as big of a gap between the two quarterbacks as we once imagined.

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109 Responses to “Mayock: Luck is great, but not a “once in a lifetime” prospect”
  1. gator2006 says: Feb 15, 2012 4:37 PM

    Thank you. Every single year I hear about the [QB prospect #1] sweepstakes and how QBP1 is once in a lifetime.

  2. thenaturalmevs says: Feb 15, 2012 4:38 PM

    At least he doesn’t have any neck spurs.

  3. tooz72 says: Feb 15, 2012 4:39 PM

    Mayock also fell in love with JaWalrus after his pro day..these experts are right about 30% of the time, maybe less

  4. EJ says: Feb 15, 2012 4:40 PM

    Luck is good but, RGIII is better.

  5. blaz0037 says: Feb 15, 2012 4:40 PM

    Another cheap shot @ ESPN.

    Pathetic.

  6. mlmeier says: Feb 15, 2012 4:41 PM

    Considering that I’d rather have RG3, I’d have to agree that Luck is not “once in a lifetime,” or even “once in a draft” for that matter.

  7. 4ever19 says: Feb 15, 2012 4:41 PM

    This is what I’ve been saying. He may be good but isn’t the second coming of Peyton or Montana or Johnny U. I’m still thinking RGIII may be the better player in the long run.

  8. newtons2ndlaw says: Feb 15, 2012 4:41 PM

    Don’t forget this is the clown that said he’d choose Gabbert over Newton. LMAO.

  9. losntina69 says: Feb 15, 2012 4:41 PM

    Shhhhh dont let Irsay read this…lmao

  10. spezzabangsmilfs says: Feb 15, 2012 4:42 PM

    Maylock this time last year
    “Cam Newton is going to be a bust”

    Hated him

  11. spezzabangsmilfs says: Feb 15, 2012 4:44 PM

    But he loves RGIII

    Maylock will have zero creditability one year from now

  12. AlohaMrHand says: Feb 15, 2012 4:45 PM

    All I know is the Colts for all the tweets and all the double speak and for all this Manning news they better HOPE Luck turns out to be as good as advertised.Ifmhe ends up the next Jeff George or Art Schlister the fans there will have Irseys head.

  13. paleandpasty says: Feb 15, 2012 4:47 PM

    I wouldn’t compare Matt Ryan to Peyton Manning so I am not sure what to think of his opinion.

  14. nfl fan says: Feb 15, 2012 4:47 PM

    Why should we care what Mayock think anyway, up until just a few years ago, he was selling Real Estate. I never understood his perceived “expertise” unless he got it from broadcasting Rutgers games…Mel Kiper V2.0.

  15. vegaskid21 says: Feb 15, 2012 4:47 PM

    Andrew Luck needs to Slap this Maylock guy for comparing him to Sam Bradford.

  16. paulk28 says: Feb 15, 2012 4:54 PM

    mayock famously said reggie bush was a once in a lifetime talent when he entered the draft…um ok…

  17. slammincamnewton says: Feb 15, 2012 4:54 PM

    Well…

    there was this once in a lifetime prospect that everyone thought would fail, but we saw how that turned out…

    Panthers Super Bowl 2012.

  18. badnewzkennels says: Feb 15, 2012 4:58 PM

    Last year Mayock wasn’t sold on Cam Newton. Had him below Blaine Gabbert and outside his top 10 overall. How did that work out for him?

  19. eigglesnosuperbowls says: Feb 15, 2012 4:58 PM

    Who is this guy maylox ?

  20. bmue42 says: Feb 15, 2012 4:58 PM

    rg3 to the colts, im callin it

  21. pdxpanther says: Feb 15, 2012 5:00 PM

    tooz72 says: Feb 15, 2012 4:39 PM

    Mayock also fell in love with JaWalrus after his pro day..these experts are right about 30% of the time, maybe less

    If you completed the thought, you’d know that he felt Russell had the physical tools, but said Russell wasn’t even worth a first round pick because of his attitude. Research people, Google is only one click away.

  22. trbowman says: Feb 15, 2012 5:01 PM

    “Add up the two comments, and this draft has two terrific quarterback prospects. There just isn’t as big of a gap between the two quarterbacks as we once imagined.”

    Three.

    Don’t forget Ryan Tannehill.

  23. raiderlyfe510 says: Feb 15, 2012 5:02 PM

    I don’t think Mayock knows Andrew Luck’s responsibilities he had as Stanford QB. Stanford could have 400 yards rushing in a game and large part of that due to Luck’s presnap reads and getting Stanford into the right play.

    It’s take a once in a generation QB to lose two games in two years at Stanford.

  24. goawayeverybody says: Feb 15, 2012 5:04 PM

    Is anyone qualified to know who is a “once in a lifetime” prospect? Did anyone say definitively that Drew Brees or Tom Brady or Aaron Rodgers were locks for Super Bowl MVP when they were drafted? I think not.

    Nobody knows anything.

  25. babyjesus69 says: Feb 15, 2012 5:06 PM

    Mayock was one of the only ones who said prior to the draft with cutler young and leinart that cutler was the best of all of them. ‘you put leinart on vanderbilts team that year they don’t win 3 games all year. You put cutler on leinarts USC team they win the national championship’. Mayock ain’t perfect but I’ll take him over espn ANY DAY!

  26. unomasmore says: Feb 15, 2012 5:06 PM

    I feel like Mayock has given himself a lot of “outs” with his “once in a lifetime “comment. What is that, like 80-90 years?

    Luck is darn near a perfect prospect, given the way the game is played at this time.

  27. rc33 says: Feb 15, 2012 5:07 PM

    I like RGIII a whole bunch but its worth noting the Big 12 this past season was simply loaded with garbage defenses.
    The guy’s a stud but the absurd numbers he put up are misleading.

  28. mistersmith22 says: Feb 15, 2012 5:07 PM

    nfl fan says:
    Feb 15, 2012 4:47 PM
    Why should we care what Mayock think anyway, up until just a few years ago, he was selling Real Estate. I never understood his perceived “expertise” unless he got it from broadcasting Rutgers games…Mel Kiper V2.0.

    ————

    Except Mayock played in the NFL for two years, and at Boston College. And he’s been an analyst and reporter since 1996, covering NCAA football, the NFL, and college basketball. Prior to that, he covered the CFL for ESPN starting in ’93.

    So maybe he sold real estate for a few years: but he was a pro, and has been covering both college and pro football for about 20 years.

  29. nineroutsider says: Feb 15, 2012 5:07 PM

    Funny, Luck stock seems to be falling nationally. He played on a run first team, maybe that has something to do with it. Not sure what he is going to be or isn’t, but I know he is a special talent. His intellect will be what separates him. I like his arm, it isn’t the greatest ever, but he’s a smart kid who will do very well in the NFL. I would say he compares to Peyton very well (Peyton’s arm wasn’t the greatest either), but we’re gonna find out…

  30. ssn760 says: Feb 15, 2012 5:08 PM

    Mayock had Gabbert as #5 overall prospect in last years draft; Cam Newton as #14; Andy Dalton not even ranked. He no longer gets a say in who will be a good QB.

    http://www.nfl.com/draft/story/09000d5d81f19e10/article/defense-still-rules-top-32-but-with-a-few-fresh-faces-included

  31. pacificamjr says: Feb 15, 2012 5:09 PM

    dont forget, the DB’s in the pac-10 are HORRIBLE!

  32. mdpickles says: Feb 15, 2012 5:10 PM

    Is this not what they said about Ryan Leaf, too?

  33. chipper41 says: Feb 15, 2012 5:12 PM

    thanks for letting us know who Mike Mayock is

  34. packattack1967 says: Feb 15, 2012 5:12 PM

    The next hall of fame quarterback will probably come out of the 4th round. Just sayin’

  35. jamaltimore says: Feb 15, 2012 5:12 PM

    Team who drafts Luck may actually SUCK with Luck! Seriously, the kid may be cursed from the start based on how Irsay is handlng things. Coming in as rookie QB on a poor team is hard enough. Coming in as rookie qb who is perceived to have pushed out a legend may be impossible to overcome!

    There’s only once in a while when you can draft a QB like Joe Flacco who can come in and win more than any other QB right out of the gate!

  36. rolltide510 says: Feb 15, 2012 5:13 PM

    Even more spectacular then claiming Gabbert > Newton, Mayock is the guy who insisted Gerald McCoy was going to be better then Suh.

    You guys remember Gerald McCoy right? At least a couple of you?

  37. lonewolf330 says: Feb 15, 2012 5:15 PM

    the draft is about forseeing whats gonna happen in the future stop takin what an analyst says to heart man there are some weak minded individuals postin on these sites

  38. Justin says: Feb 15, 2012 5:17 PM

    Mayock is a pretty darn good judge of talent. And ripping him for his take on JaMarcus Russell is way off. He said it was one of the best pro days he has ever seen but still said he wouldn’t take him in the first round because his lack of passion. Sounds pretty right on if you ask me.

  39. tashkalucy says: Feb 15, 2012 5:17 PM

    Fact is that Mike Mayock had a better record on last years NFL draft then anyone from the national mock draft people. He put the 2 guys at ESPN to shame.

  40. doresb21 says: Feb 15, 2012 5:19 PM

    The funny thing is that Luck is actually underrated. Watched every game he played in college and the guy is so much better than ever other player in college football and it’s not even close.

  41. mnajb says: Feb 15, 2012 5:21 PM

    “Blaine Gabbert is the only QB I’m banging the table for.”
    –Mayock last year, by way of number of different media outlets

    Mike’s great, and I love hearing his analysis, but he can be wrong…

  42. vikescry1 says: Feb 15, 2012 5:21 PM

    alot of people thought cam might be a bust, i thought he would be better with a year or 2 of tutilidge myself. but i was wrong aswell. cam is a beast and i think both luck and rg3 will be really good qb’s in the nfl. good luck to both of them.

  43. whatnojets says: Feb 15, 2012 5:24 PM

    Ok….this guy has no idea what the hell he is talking about!

    Joe Namath

  44. thraiderskin says: Feb 15, 2012 5:25 PM

    Mayock is right more often than not… I find it comical that in the business he is in, when he is wrong, he must always be wrong to some people. If you listen to the man speak, instead of just listening to his picks, everyone would learn quite a bit more about the process. As far as the Jamarcus Russell pick, who else should have been taken first overall? Must be nice to be an after-the fact psychic.

  45. fijabbersman345 says: Feb 15, 2012 5:26 PM

    I don’t know why everybody’s hating. All analysts get a good majority of their picks wrong, especially ESPN flubs. He’s right. Luck isn’t on the same level Manning was coming out of college.

  46. gmen1987 says: Feb 15, 2012 5:27 PM

    Here is Mayock’s recent history of QB draft analysis.

    2009: Thought Mark Sanchez was better than Matt Stafford. Thought the Lions should take Eugene Monroe or Aaron over Stafford.

    2011: Thought Cam Newton was not worthy of a top 20 pick. Thought Blaine Gabbert was the only worthy QB to go in the top 10.

    If I am Andrew Luck, I would be very happy that Mayock like RG III better. I would be sweating if I was RG III, over the fact that Mayock says I am the better prospect.

  47. johnnycash19 says: Feb 15, 2012 5:27 PM

    I love Mayock, he may be wrong sometimes, but who isn’t? Especially in this business.

    Love the picture.

  48. saxmachine69 says: Feb 15, 2012 5:28 PM

    Maylock this time last year
    “Cam Newton is going to be a bust”

    Hated him

    ———————

    Want to provide a link for that? Oh that’s right, it doesn’t exist, because Mayock never said that. He was weary of Newton because of his attitude, not his talent, that’s all.

    And Mayock is right in this case, Andrew Luck is not the savior everyone’s made him out to be, and I can’t wait til people actually realize this the further along this draft process goes. Luck is the best player in the draft, but not by as wide a margin as many think.

  49. phillyphever says: Feb 15, 2012 5:28 PM

    spezzabangsmilfs says: Feb 15, 2012 4:42 PM Maylock this time last year “Cam Newton is going to be a bust”

    Hated him

    Hold on, let’s see what happens year 2 for Newton when DC’s have tape on him and a full offseason to plan for him.

    As for Luck: maybe not the “one-in-a-lifetime” prospect ESPN’s touting him out to be, but I rather take him over RGIII anyday.

  50. whatnojets says: Feb 15, 2012 5:33 PM

    I trust Mike and Mike more than anyone else

  51. whatnojets says: Feb 15, 2012 5:35 PM

    Mike Maylock resume:

    “He was selected by the Pittsburgh Steelers in the tenth round of the 1981 NFL Draft, as the 265th overall pick. After being cut from the Giants, Mayock was signed to his first pro contract with the CFL’s Toronto Argonauts during the 1981 season. He played in just one game before being released. He returned to the NFL with the New York Giants for the 1982 and 1983 football seasons.”

  52. cappa662 says: Feb 15, 2012 5:37 PM

    Mayock got Cutler right but totally wiffed on Robert Ayers and Knowshon.

    Anyways, RG3 is so overrated. I’d rather have Luck.

  53. norseyapper says: Feb 15, 2012 5:37 PM

    The wishful thinking is that Luck is another Peyton Manning but with greater mobility, and RG3 is another Cam Newton but with even greater quickness and perhaps better passing accuracy.
    But as I said, it’s all today’s wishful thinking and NFL QBs are like Forest’s box of chocolates…you never know what you’re going to get.

  54. hawkitnow says: Feb 15, 2012 5:38 PM

    sweet glamour shots photo.

  55. saxmachine69 says: Feb 15, 2012 5:41 PM

    ssn760 says: Feb 15, 2012 5:08 PM

    Mayock had Gabbert as #5 overall prospect in last years draft; Cam Newton as #14; Andy Dalton not even ranked. He no longer gets a say in who will be a good QB.

    http://www.nfl.com/draft/story/09000d5d81f19e10/article/defense-still-rules-top-32-but-with-a-few-fresh-faces-included

    ———————

    He only ranks 32 players in that link. Find me another ranking where Dalton is in the top 32? If you can, I’d be he’s no higher than 30th. So your point is completely useless.

    As for the whole Newton vs. Gabbert debate. ZOMG he was (seemingly wrong) once. This guy is clueless, blah, blah, blah.

    News flash, NFL scouts who have access to a lot more than Mayock make mistakes. Mayock happens to be right more often than anyone else in his field, and is probably the only well respected draft analyst by those in the league.

  56. xli2006 says: Feb 15, 2012 5:42 PM

    You do realize that this is a prime example of Media-Fueling-Media.

    How many stories can the Sports Media create out of thin air?

    A bunch of talking heads say one thing about a topic (Luck in this case)…

    Then another random guy says another…

    Then a different Media Source writes an article about that.

    Wow, what a niche you guys have carved out for yourselves. Creating stories to write stories about.

  57. nightrain42 says: Feb 15, 2012 5:46 PM

    I agree. Guys like Mushberger have a serious man crush on Luck. I just don’t see it yet.

  58. tatum064 says: Feb 15, 2012 5:50 PM

    phillyphever says:
    Feb 15, 2012 5:28 PM

    Hold on, let’s see what happens year 2 for Newton when DC’s have tape on him and a full offseason to plan for him.
    ============================
    Newton will still complete passes, and run for large chunks of yardage. Dude is the real deal and EVERYONE was wrong about him. He completed passes with accuracy and velocity, period. – i’ll bet he wins as many games as Michael Vick will.

    “Mayock had Gabbert as #5 overall prospect in last years draft; Cam Newton as #14; Andy Dalton not even ranked. He no longer gets a say in who will be a good QB.”
    ==============================
    absolutely right…..lets let the process play out.

  59. bigbluebruiser says: Feb 15, 2012 5:50 PM

    Mayock was a former Giant so I can’t come down on him too hard…………lol

    But Luck is the best QB prospect in over a decade.

  60. plum13sec says: Feb 15, 2012 5:51 PM

    I am actually glad he says this. as a colts fan. this means Luck will be better than I thought, Mayock is wrong all the time. Keep it coming mike

  61. willisaldon9952 says: Feb 15, 2012 5:51 PM

    @mistersmith22

    And he was a scout as well and to all the fools saying Mayock didn’t think Cam Newton wasn’t a good prospect here is why.

    http://blog.49ers.com/2011/02/17/nfln%E2%80%99s-mike-mayock-talks-draft/

    he never says he isn’t good or that Gabbert is better, he is simply unsure if Newton has a passion for football, not that he doesn’t have the tools to be excellent, I.E. character issues. Get it strait people, Google is your friend.

  62. bchapman2011 says: Feb 15, 2012 5:56 PM

    Good call Mayock….When all is said and done and this draft is evaluated 5 years from now Luck will probably be the 2nd best QB and the 5th best overall player from this draft.
    He is a nice player that makes good decisions but what does he do that makes a person say WOW!!!?
    I see him being an upgraded Chad Pennington type QB minus the injuries.

  63. waraggie says: Feb 15, 2012 5:58 PM

    I remember all the pre-draft banter prior to the 1998 draft. Ryan Leaf’s stock continued to soar right up to the draft. Peyton on the other hand, actually slipped a little bit as all the so-called experts complained that his footwork wasn’t the greatest, his arm wasn’t as strong, and he didn’t consistently throw tight spirals. We all know how that worked out. Peyton took a hit because the expectations for him were so high for a long period of time while Leaf was a popular choice because he kind of took everyone by surprise. It’s the same situation with Luck and RGIII and a far cry from Newton and Gabbert. As a Colts fan, Luck is the answer.

  64. hrmlss says: Feb 15, 2012 6:00 PM

    Someone has to take the lower expectations view so in 3 years they can crow “I told you so”. I think they take turns. I predict he’s a total bust, there, I’m ready for the long shot to come in and start my Mel Kiper career off!

  65. sickcuz says: Feb 15, 2012 6:03 PM

    ESPN is like WWE. The next event is the biggest and best ever. The current event is the greatest thing to ever happen in the existence of mankind.

  66. slobberknockered says: Feb 15, 2012 6:05 PM

    The Colts just need to draft Jeremy Lin. That would be good.

  67. raider17 says: Feb 15, 2012 6:09 PM

    Mayock is official. Never forget him calling
    DHB right before the Raiders drafted him.
    Nobody’s perfect!

    Al Davis Forever!!!
    Just Win Baby!!!

  68. whatswiththehate says: Feb 15, 2012 6:15 PM

    saxmachine69 says:Feb 15, 2012 5:28 PM

    Want to provide a link for that? Oh that’s right, it doesn’t exist, because Mayock never said that. He was weary of Newton because of his attitude, not his talent, that’s all.
    ————–
    Yeah, that “Entertainer/Icon” quote taken out of context really does show a kid with an “attitude” problem…Insert big behind eyerolling.

    Also, Mike Mayock is as shallow as they come. All he does is simply repeat what others are saying and trying to add his own spin. He didn’t care for Cam because the media didn’t care for Cam. And, many of you love to play that perceived “attitude” card as much as you love to accuse blacks of playing the “race” card.

  69. plum13sec says: Feb 15, 2012 6:16 PM

    At least he is not mark sanchez. HHAhaHAHA

  70. emmac13 says: Feb 15, 2012 6:18 PM

    No team , city, or fan cares who the QB is as long as they win the Superbowl. For example, look at Baltimore and Trent Dilfer.

  71. 989lions says: Feb 15, 2012 6:18 PM

    Hey raiderskin you know who went after jawalrus right ?? Oh yeah this guy you may have heard of him MEGATRON. Thank god Al took jawalrus though because the entire country knows Millen would’ve taken him had he been there.

  72. gadgetdawg says: Feb 15, 2012 6:22 PM

    I feel for both Luck and RGIII. Analysts keep building both of them up to superhuman status and I am pretty sure neither dresses for the game in a phonebooth.

    I hope both are well grounded mentally because no one is perfect and many folks will come down on them hard for any mistakes made.

  73. chiadam says: Feb 15, 2012 6:27 PM

    At least someone finally said it. He’s good. Probably really good. But isn’t Stanford a running team?

  74. guestsinger says: Feb 15, 2012 6:28 PM

    Look, there is no way we can have a guy named Luck playing with anything but a horse shoe on his helmet. Now let’s move on.

  75. 1liondriven says: Feb 15, 2012 6:38 PM

    Mayock is in bed with certain agents, GMs and owners so much that his opinion has zero credibility.

  76. justwinbaby29 says: Feb 15, 2012 6:43 PM

    I’ll say it again about Andrew Luck in the NFL:

    Best case: He’s Peyton Manning II

    Worst case: He’s Eli Manning II

    Maybe he wants more the worst case and have more rings :)

  77. sasquash20 says: Feb 15, 2012 6:44 PM

    @tooz72- Your actually wrong about Mayock loving Jamarcus. In fact he said he shouldn’t even be taken in the 1st round. He hated his work ethic, and leadership. Some even called him a racist. So get your facts first douche bag.

    Mayock is better then every other expert. Is he always right? Of course not, no one is ever always right. But Mayock has been more consistant then anyone else out there.

  78. slammincamnewton says: Feb 15, 2012 6:47 PM

    So this guy was wrong about walrus, suh, and cam? This guy has a job why?

  79. slammincamnewton says: Feb 15, 2012 6:49 PM

    “ESPN is like WWE. The next event is the biggest and best ever. The current event is the greatest thing to ever happen in the existence of mankind.”

    This is the most accurate statement i’ve ever heard.

  80. sportsrube90 says: Feb 15, 2012 6:59 PM

    Thank you Mike! Because it seems like every year we hear about some player being a once in a lifetime player. And I am only 21 years old and I have heard about “once in a lifetime” players almost every year.

  81. gretzkyoneyzermantwo says: Feb 15, 2012 7:01 PM

    Funny who this time of year the guy everyone wants gets dumped on because everyone wants him, and the guy nobody wants gets propped up because everyone wants someone else to take him.

  82. beedubyatoo says: Feb 15, 2012 7:30 PM

    Maylock will have zero creditability one year from now

    ——————————–

    We don’t have to wait a year. He already has reached the zero creditability platform.

  83. trubroncfan07 says: Feb 15, 2012 7:33 PM

    Mike did say that he thought Jamarcus Russel had the best skill set he has seen from any prospect in the last ten years. Luck is a pretty rare prospect.

  84. jago3825 says: Feb 15, 2012 7:41 PM

    ssn760 says: Feb 15, 2012 5:08 PM

    Mayock had Gabbert as #5 overall prospect in last years draft; Cam Newton as #14; Andy Dalton not even ranked. He no longer gets a say in who will be a good QB.

    http://www.nfl.com/draft/story/09000d5d81f19e10/article/defense-still-rules-top-32-but-with-a-few-fresh-faces-included

    ————–
    ssn760 – You have to actually read why he ranked cam at 14. Mayock said he was sold on Cam the QB, but not on Cam the person. He had no doubts about his skills as a QB. Just questioned his character like many people did. Cam hurt himself in this aspect by talking about himself in the 3rd person and doing as much as he could to shine questionable attention to himself right before the draft. If it was a WR doing it, everyone would have called him a Diva and avoid him like the plague until the mid 20’s in the first round. Cam has so far proved everyone wrong regarding his character. Picking #1 in the draft on a questionable character player takes huge Juevos. For that I give the Panthers big props. But Mayock wasn’t wrong. Cam just realized he needed to grow up.

  85. nfl fan says: Feb 15, 2012 7:46 PM

    nfl fan says:
    Feb 15, 2012 4:47 PM
    Why should we care what Mayock think anyway, up until just a few years ago, he was selling Real Estate. I never understood his perceived “expertise” unless he got it from broadcasting Rutgers games…Mel Kiper V2.0.

    ————

    Except Mayock played in the NFL for two years, and at Boston College. And he’s been an analyst and reporter since 1996, covering NCAA football, the NFL, and college basketball. Prior to that, he covered the CFL for ESPN starting in ’93.

    So maybe he sold real estate for a few years: but he was a pro, and has been covering both college and pro football for about 20 years.
    —————————————————–
    Oh, he was a basketball reporter, my bad. I overlooked those credentials.

    Did I mention that he’s painful to listen to and watch on the NFL Network? Terrible.

  86. croghan1919 says: Feb 15, 2012 7:48 PM

    As a Colts fan I hope the Colts don’t take a mobile QB.
    They don’t last long in the NFL.

  87. blainegabbert says: Feb 15, 2012 7:53 PM

    @newtons2ndlaw

    HEY, SHUT UP MAN!!!

    …actually, you’re right, I’m terrible…

    As for the rookies,

    Andrew Luck will be a top 5-10 QB from Game #1, and Colts’ fans will be shocked by his similarities to Peyton. Luck would succeed in any NFL offense.

    As for RG3, I hope lands with a creative offensive coordinator like Cam has with Rob Chudzinski. Having such an elite athlete at QB is a rare opportunity, and few NFL OC’s have been able to utilize that athleticism in both the run- and pass-game like Chudzinski did with Cam last season. RG3 definitely has all the skills to succeed immediately, and he’s also going to run a 4.38.

    One thing I know for sure: they’re both waaaaaaaaaaaay better than me.

  88. jg725 says: Feb 15, 2012 7:55 PM

    First of all – “matty ice” has been anything but “ice” – has he won even 1 playoff game yet???
    Ang although rg3 was agreat college player – so was vince young, michael vick, jamarcus russel, steve mcnair, warren moon, etc, etc – and how many super bowls have those guys combined to win?????? The facts are what they are – and cam newton wound up with more ints than td’s this year- and i predict a HUGE drop-off for him going forward – probably not a great investment to spend a high #1 draft pick on rg3 – just my opinion – but the facts CERTAINLY back this up……..

  89. jg725 says: Feb 15, 2012 7:57 PM

    Also – for what it’s worth – peyton has not exactly been dominenent in the post season either

  90. farvite says: Feb 15, 2012 8:09 PM

    Rang > Mayock

  91. mizzouram says: Feb 15, 2012 8:13 PM

    vegaskid21 says: Feb 15, 2012 4:47 PM

    Andrew Luck needs to Slap this Maylock guy for comparing him to Sam Bradford.
    —————————————————————-
    Ur right, Sam Bradford is so much better it nucking futs.

  92. gmen1987 says: Feb 15, 2012 8:25 PM

    nightrain42 says: Feb 15, 2012 5:46 PM

    I agree. Guys like Mushberger have a serious man crush on Luck. I just don’t see it yet.

    ====================================
    Goobs, Why don’t you submit your scouting resume to your favorite NFL team since you so know talent?

  93. tr975 says: Feb 15, 2012 8:41 PM

    “He thought the Browns would be well served to look at trading up for Griffin.”
    ——
    No thanks. Browns have too many needs to give away multiple picks in order to move up a couple of spots. If he falls to #4, fine.

  94. georgeblanda says: Feb 15, 2012 9:48 PM

    The most important consideration about this story is that THERE IS NOT STORY HERE. My personal opinion of Mayock went down with this quote simply because he just didn’t need to say anything. He is just promoting himself by taking a “safe” shot at Luck. Mayock wants to have his cake and eat it to. He wants to be on the side of saying Luck should be the #1 pick but he isn’t defining him with some mythical “once in a lifetime” pick. No one even knows what that means. He just demeaned the player for no reason whatsoever. None of us will no the answer to this question until we see if Andrew Luck goes into the Hall of Fame. Some of us will be dead by then. But in the meantime, we get to talk about Mayock as if he has some kind of crystal ball. By the way, Montana was a third round pick, Brady was a sixth rounder. Brees was too short. Bledsoe was supposed to be automatic. Cam couldn’t make the NFL throws. Mike McCarthy helped pick Alex Smith over Rogers… and the Raiders picks Russell when they could have pick Calvin Johnson, whom everyone said was a SURE THING STAR.

  95. seeschool says: Feb 15, 2012 9:55 PM

    I wouldn’t compare Matt Ryan to Peyton Manning so I am not sure what to think of his opinion.

    Did you actually read the article? Of course you didn’t, it’s much easier to assume that Mayock is comparing them as players. I guess if he said that they both have similar height, that would be a problem too.

    It’s no wonder there are so many people on this board that don’t care for Mayock’s opinions….there are so many idiots on this board.

    Here’s a newsflash for all the morons on this board. Mayock has missed on prospects, just like EVERYONE has. So for those who are knocking him because he liked Reggie Bush or Blaine Gabbert…really…grow a brain.

  96. myschwartzisbiggerthenyours says: Feb 15, 2012 10:12 PM

    tooz72 says: Feb 15, 2012 4:39 PM

    Mayock also fell in love with JaWalrus after his pro day..these experts are right about 30% of the time, maybe less
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    Get it right; Mayock said JeMarcus had the best pro day he ever saw, which was the case, the guy is a physical freak. But Mayock also said he wouldn’t draft him in the 1st round because of the off the field concerns and the guy couldn’t read a defense to save his life. I guess Mayock was right.

  97. emotionalfatguy says: Feb 15, 2012 11:07 PM

    God i hate people who post on this site. I dont know if you guys are dumba$$es or trolls.

    Mayock was one of the few analysts who said the Raiders should NOT draft JaMarcus no. 1, despite having the most impressive proday Mayock had ever seen.

    Additionally, to the dumba$$ who said Mayock said Newton would be a bust you are also a moron. Mayock said he was concerned about the icon/entertaining comment, but also said Newton is by far one of the best (mechanically) passers in recent drafts – miles ahead of other QBs in his class, miles ahead of Tebow/VY.

    I wish PFT had comment-in-comment feature, so i could post these on the morons who posted above me.

  98. theytukrjobs says: Feb 15, 2012 11:21 PM

    Mayock is not right all the time. Nobody is. But he’s the most respected big time analyst when it comes to projecting NFL players. You can’t just dismiss him because of what he said “that one other time”. A lot of people thought Newton would bust.

  99. shadowgm1 says: Feb 16, 2012 12:22 AM

    newtons2ndlaw says:Feb 15, 2012 4:41 PM

    Don’t forget this is the clown that said he’d choose Gabbert over Newton. LMAO.
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    Newton…you’re referring to the overrated blowhard from Auburn who fell on his face over the final 12 games, failing to break 300 yards passing in those games? The dude is a joke, and it’s only going to get funnier next season. Loved the Pro Bowl performance. What an icon.

  100. saxmachine69 says: Feb 16, 2012 12:29 AM

    whatswiththehate says: Feb 15, 2012 6:15 PM

    saxmachine69 says:Feb 15, 2012 5:28 PM

    Want to provide a link for that? Oh that’s right, it doesn’t exist, because Mayock never said that. He was weary of Newton because of his attitude, not his talent, that’s all.
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    Yeah, that “Entertainer/Icon” quote taken out of context really does show a kid with an “attitude” problem…Insert big behind eyerolling.

    Also, Mike Mayock is as shallow as they come. All he does is simply repeat what others are saying and trying to add his own spin. He didn’t care for Cam because the media didn’t care for Cam. And, many of you love to play that perceived “attitude” card as much as you love to accuse blacks of playing the “race” card.

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    Wait a second here, don’t lump me in with Mayock because I’m defending him. I didn’t say the attitude concerns were warranted, all I said was that those were Mayock’s concerns. And to be fair, Mayock had actually met the kid, talked to people who knew him, etc. You and I haven’t, so I’d say he’s more informed than either of us.

    And for the record, stealing lap tops isn’t exactly something you like to see out of your franchise QB to be.

    But the point is, Mayock was wrong. Woopty f#cking doo. It’s crazy that you say “he just says what everyone else says, because that’s not true at all. Mayock does more tape work than anyone in the business, and often has opinions that aren’t just going along with the majority. For example, Matt Kalil is his #2 OT behind Riley Reiff. Not exactly going with the consensus.

    In fact, I’d say that Mayock is probably the only draft analyst that doesn’t just look up the status quo and rehash what everyone else says about players. Mel Kiper Jr. on the other hand…..

  101. tatum064 says: Feb 16, 2012 12:35 AM

    croghan1919 says:
    Feb 15, 2012 7:48 PM
    As a Colts fan I hope the Colts don’t take a mobile QB.
    They don’t last long in the NFL.

    ===================

    Oh, really?

    Sincerely,

    Steve Young

  102. tatum064 says: Feb 16, 2012 12:37 AM

    nfl fan says:
    Feb 15, 2012 4:47 PM
    Why should we care what Mayock think anyway, up until just a few years ago, he was selling Real Estate. I never understood his perceived “expertise” unless he got it from broadcasting Rutgers games…Mel Kiper V2.0.
    =================================
    Comparing Mike Mayock to Mel Kiper is an insult to the term “2.0”

  103. saxmachine69 says: Feb 16, 2012 12:43 AM

    jg725 says: Feb 15, 2012 7:55 PM

    First of all – “matty ice” has been anything but “ice” – has he won even 1 playoff game yet???
    Ang although rg3 was agreat college player – so was vince young, michael vick, jamarcus russel, steve mcnair, warren moon, etc, etc – and how many super bowls have those guys combined to win?????? The facts are what they are – and cam newton wound up with more ints than td’s this year- and i predict a HUGE drop-off for him going forward – probably not a great investment to spend a high #1 draft pick on rg3 – just my opinion – but the facts CERTAINLY back this up……..

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    wow. I don’t think I’ve seen such a blatant racist post on a football forum in a long as time.

  104. zinn22 says: Feb 16, 2012 1:04 AM

    Mayockwas wrong about Sanchez but he is right more often than any NFL anyalst. What sets Mayock apart is he is not afraid to criticize and speak his mind. If the thinks someone is overrated and not worth the pick like Newton or Russel he will say it. The NFL cleanes and sanitizes everything that is said before it is said. They are all about marketing. It is rare an analyst gets to speak his mind like Mayock. I love the guy and love his passion for football.

    The bottomline is the draft especially at QB is a crapshoot. Its rolling dice. More times than not a 1st round QB will be a bust. No one will be perfect. The process to be is more important than the results. Results are often luck and cannot be controlled but the process used in making picks can be controlled and this is where Mayocks preparation and emotionless logic excels.

    BTW this what he said about Sanchez, Stafford and Freeman.

    “I’ve been very positive on all three of them and I like all three of them. But I wouldn’t bang the table for any of them like I did for Matt Ryan last year. Matt Ryan was my number one guy on the board all year long.

    But amongst those three Freeman reminds me of Joe Flacco both on and off the field. And I think if I had to pull the trigger in the top 10 pick with a quarterback I would take Sanchez because I would feel like his floor is higher than the other guys.”

  105. winstonpark says: Feb 16, 2012 1:46 AM

    Mayock and Kiper are dorks!!

  106. burntorangehorn says: Feb 16, 2012 1:50 AM

    Mayock’s hit and miss, like anyone. He loved some JaMarcus and Jay Cutler, although obviously he was basing those likes on things that were visible in film and workouts, which willingness to learn the playbook or not have an attitude usually aren’t.

    Luck’s certainly a very talented guy, but what sets him apart is that he has a lot of talent, a work ethic, and great coaching on his side. Harbaugh and Co. worked on him for several years, and the guy had another good season this year as well. He’ll be more pro-ready than many others, I believe.

    A once-in-a-lifetime prospect comes along once in a lifetime, obviously. That means for Luck to fit that definition, we’d be looking back 60+ years for the last time there was a prospect of that caliber.

  107. ssgonesolo says: Feb 16, 2012 1:55 AM

    So does this mean that Luck is relative or an absolute? Is it a given or a roll of the die. Help me, help me!! (shaking it up in my hands). Papa need a brand new bag………………………….. Or guitar one or maybe two!!!

  108. texline1 says: Feb 16, 2012 6:45 AM

    I keep hearing about how Newton is the greatest thing since sliced bread. Correct me if I am wrong, but didn’t the Panthers finish 6 and 10? Against the pathetic “defense” in the pro bowl, what was his qb rating? He should be doing Steve Smith’s laundry and mowing his lawn because he is nothing without Smith.

  109. dukemarc says: Feb 16, 2012 10:01 AM

    I love the attacks on Mayock – he is far beyond Kiper and his teenaged sidekick over at ESPN – and at least he played the game. I’ll take his educated opinion over most of these jokers.

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