Luck’s certainly a very talented guy, but what sets him apart is that he has a lot of talent, a work ethic, and great coaching on his side. Harbaugh and Co. worked on him for several years, and the guy had another good season this year as well. He’ll be more pro-ready than many others, I believe.

A once-in-a-lifetime prospect comes along once in a lifetime, obviously. That means for Luck to fit that definition, we’d be looking back 60+ years for the last time there was a prospect of that caliber.

The bottomline is the draft especially at QB is a crapshoot. Its rolling dice. More times than not a 1st round QB will be a bust. No one will be perfect. The process to be is more important than the results. Results are often luck and cannot be controlled but the process used in making picks can be controlled and this is where Mayocks preparation and emotionless logic excels.

BTW this what he said about Sanchez, Stafford and Freeman.

“I’ve been very positive on all three of them and I like all three of them. But I wouldn’t bang the table for any of them like I did for Matt Ryan last year. Matt Ryan was my number one guy on the board all year long.

But amongst those three Freeman reminds me of Joe Flacco both on and off the field. And I think if I had to pull the trigger in the top 10 pick with a quarterback I would take Sanchez because I would feel like his floor is higher than the other guys.”

First of all – “matty ice” has been anything but “ice” – has he won even 1 playoff game yet???
Ang although rg3 was agreat college player – so was vince young, michael vick, jamarcus russel, steve mcnair, warren moon, etc, etc – and how many super bowls have those guys combined to win?????? The facts are what they are – and cam newton wound up with more ints than td’s this year- and i predict a HUGE drop-off for him going forward – probably not a great investment to spend a high #1 draft pick on rg3 – just my opinion – but the facts CERTAINLY back this up……..

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wow. I don’t think I’ve seen such a blatant racist post on a football forum in a long as time.

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Oh, really?

Sincerely,

Steve Young

saxmachine69 says:Feb 15, 2012 5:28 PM

Want to provide a link for that? Oh that’s right, it doesn’t exist, because Mayock never said that. He was weary of Newton because of his attitude, not his talent, that’s all.
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Yeah, that “Entertainer/Icon” quote taken out of context really does show a kid with an “attitude” problem…Insert big behind eyerolling.

Also, Mike Mayock is as shallow as they come. All he does is simply repeat what others are saying and trying to add his own spin. He didn’t care for Cam because the media didn’t care for Cam. And, many of you love to play that perceived “attitude” card as much as you love to accuse blacks of playing the “race” card.

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Wait a second here, don’t lump me in with Mayock because I’m defending him. I didn’t say the attitude concerns were warranted, all I said was that those were Mayock’s concerns. And to be fair, Mayock had actually met the kid, talked to people who knew him, etc. You and I haven’t, so I’d say he’s more informed than either of us.

And for the record, stealing lap tops isn’t exactly something you like to see out of your franchise QB to be.

But the point is, Mayock was wrong. Woopty f#cking doo. It’s crazy that you say “he just says what everyone else says, because that’s not true at all. Mayock does more tape work than anyone in the business, and often has opinions that aren’t just going along with the majority. For example, Matt Kalil is his #2 OT behind Riley Reiff. Not exactly going with the consensus.

In fact, I’d say that Mayock is probably the only draft analyst that doesn’t just look up the status quo and rehash what everyone else says about players. Mel Kiper Jr. on the other hand…..

Don’t forget this is the clown that said he’d choose Gabbert over Newton. LMAO.
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Newton…you’re referring to the overrated blowhard from Auburn who fell on his face over the final 12 games, failing to break 300 yards passing in those games? The dude is a joke, and it’s only going to get funnier next season. Loved the Pro Bowl performance. What an icon.

Mayock was one of the few analysts who said the Raiders should NOT draft JaMarcus no. 1, despite having the most impressive proday Mayock had ever seen.

Additionally, to the dumba$$ who said Mayock said Newton would be a bust you are also a moron. Mayock said he was concerned about the icon/entertaining comment, but also said Newton is by far one of the best (mechanically) passers in recent drafts – miles ahead of other QBs in his class, miles ahead of Tebow/VY.

I wish PFT had comment-in-comment feature, so i could post these on the morons who posted above me.

Mayock also fell in love with JaWalrus after his pro day..these experts are right about 30% of the time, maybe less
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Get it right; Mayock said JeMarcus had the best pro day he ever saw, which was the case, the guy is a physical freak. But Mayock also said he wouldn’t draft him in the 1st round because of the off the field concerns and the guy couldn’t read a defense to save his life. I guess Mayock was right.

Did you actually read the article? Of course you didn’t, it’s much easier to assume that Mayock is comparing them as players. I guess if he said that they both have similar height, that would be a problem too.

It’s no wonder there are so many people on this board that don’t care for Mayock’s opinions….there are so many idiots on this board.

Here’s a newsflash for all the morons on this board. Mayock has missed on prospects, just like EVERYONE has. So for those who are knocking him because he liked Reggie Bush or Blaine Gabbert…really…grow a brain.

I agree. Guys like Mushberger have a serious man crush on Luck. I just don’t see it yet.

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Goobs, Why don’t you submit your scouting resume to your favorite NFL team since you so know talent?

Andrew Luck needs to Slap this Maylock guy for comparing him to Sam Bradford.
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Ur right, Sam Bradford is so much better it nucking futs.

HEY, SHUT UP MAN!!!

…actually, you’re right, I’m terrible…

As for the rookies,

Andrew Luck will be a top 5-10 QB from Game #1, and Colts’ fans will be shocked by his similarities to Peyton. Luck would succeed in any NFL offense.

As for RG3, I hope lands with a creative offensive coordinator like Cam has with Rob Chudzinski. Having such an elite athlete at QB is a rare opportunity, and few NFL OC’s have been able to utilize that athleticism in both the run- and pass-game like Chudzinski did with Cam last season. RG3 definitely has all the skills to succeed immediately, and he’s also going to run a 4.38.

One thing I know for sure: they’re both waaaaaaaaaaaay better than me.

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Except Mayock played in the NFL for two years, and at Boston College. And he’s been an analyst and reporter since 1996, covering NCAA football, the NFL, and college basketball. Prior to that, he covered the CFL for ESPN starting in ’93.

So maybe he sold real estate for a few years: but he was a pro, and has been covering both college and pro football for about 20 years.
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Oh, he was a basketball reporter, my bad. I overlooked those credentials.

Did I mention that he’s painful to listen to and watch on the NFL Network? Terrible.

Mayock had Gabbert as #5 overall prospect in last years draft; Cam Newton as #14; Andy Dalton not even ranked. He no longer gets a say in who will be a good QB.

http://www.nfl.com/draft/story/09000d5d81f19e10/article/defense-still-rules-top-32-but-with-a-few-fresh-faces-included

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ssn760 – You have to actually read why he ranked cam at 14. Mayock said he was sold on Cam the QB, but not on Cam the person. He had no doubts about his skills as a QB. Just questioned his character like many people did. Cam hurt himself in this aspect by talking about himself in the 3rd person and doing as much as he could to shine questionable attention to himself right before the draft. If it was a WR doing it, everyone would have called him a Diva and avoid him like the plague until the mid 20′s in the first round. Cam has so far proved everyone wrong regarding his character. Picking #1 in the draft on a questionable character player takes huge Juevos. For that I give the Panthers big props. But Mayock wasn’t wrong. Cam just realized he needed to grow up.

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We don’t have to wait a year. He already has reached the zero creditability platform.