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	<title>Comments on: Condon: Relationship with Pats won&#8217;t get in way of Lloyd deal</title>
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		<title>By: xli2006</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Feb 2012 19:45:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Is Lloyd the one playing or Condon? If I were a player, I&#039;d tell my agent to knock that garbage out and get me a deal wherever I want to play if possible. Condon&#039;s strained relationships shouldn&#039;t impact his players.

Note: Condon is also Manning&#039;s agent. I&#039;d like to know who pushed for such a terribly constructed contract last Spring.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is Lloyd the one playing or Condon? If I were a player, I&#8217;d tell my agent to knock that garbage out and get me a deal wherever I want to play if possible. Condon&#8217;s strained relationships shouldn&#8217;t impact his players.</p>
<p>Note: Condon is also Manning&#8217;s agent. I&#8217;d like to know who pushed for such a terribly constructed contract last Spring.</p>
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		<title>By: trubroncfan07</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Feb 2012 19:33:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Does not seem like a Patriot to me. He will be crying in a minute when Brady is throwing the ball to Gronk, Hernandez, and Welker. Lloyde needs a high volume of plays to be successful.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Does not seem like a Patriot to me. He will be crying in a minute when Brady is throwing the ball to Gronk, Hernandez, and Welker. Lloyde needs a high volume of plays to be successful.</p>
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		<title>By: rc33</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Feb 2012 18:40:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[gator2006 says: Feb 16, 2012 1:00 PM

I wouldn’t quite call them a “blue chip defense”

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It&#039;s not there yet but definitely going in the right direction. 
I live in Houston. Compare the Texans defense in 2010 vs. the 2011 Texans D we saw last season (2nd overall).
No comparison. At all. 
Assuming you have some pieces in place, teams can turn it around in one off season.
They need a pass rusher, DL depth and some cover CB&#039;s, one of which certainly could be Dowling.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>gator2006 says: Feb 16, 2012 1:00 PM</p>
<p>I wouldn’t quite call them a “blue chip defense”</p>
<p>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;</p>
<p>It&#8217;s not there yet but definitely going in the right direction.<br />
I live in Houston. Compare the Texans defense in 2010 vs. the 2011 Texans D we saw last season (2nd overall).<br />
No comparison. At all.<br />
Assuming you have some pieces in place, teams can turn it around in one off season.<br />
They need a pass rusher, DL depth and some cover CB&#8217;s, one of which certainly could be Dowling.</p>
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		<title>By: crucifixkiss</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Feb 2012 18:33:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[mjdkid100

30 other teams didn&#039;t win it. The Giants did.]]></description>
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<p>30 other teams didn&#8217;t win it. The Giants did.</p>
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		<title>By: sj39</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Feb 2012 18:27:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[What the Pats really need is Tim Tebow. Maybe Josh will find a way to get him.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What the Pats really need is Tim Tebow. Maybe Josh will find a way to get him.</p>
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		<title>By: CKL</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Feb 2012 18:12:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;d rather have Eddie Royal. I think he could be a younger version of Deion Branch.

One thing I am always certain of is that grudge or no grudge, BB will do what he thinks is best for the team. I mean Law cried to the press about how BB was a liar, had a poisonous agent (or did with Poston at that time) and BB was still talking to him every time he was FA about coming back. Law also considers himself a Patriot as do other guys who played for other teams who left with bad feelings like Lawyer Milloy.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d rather have Eddie Royal. I think he could be a younger version of Deion Branch.</p>
<p>One thing I am always certain of is that grudge or no grudge, BB will do what he thinks is best for the team. I mean Law cried to the press about how BB was a liar, had a poisonous agent (or did with Poston at that time) and BB was still talking to him every time he was FA about coming back. Law also considers himself a Patriot as do other guys who played for other teams who left with bad feelings like Lawyer Milloy.</p>
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		<title>By: gator2006</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Feb 2012 18:00:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I wouldn&#039;t quite call them a &quot;blue chip defense&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wouldn&#8217;t quite call them a &#8220;blue chip defense&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: rc33</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Feb 2012 18:00:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Patriots made it to the Super Bowl with a defense that, in all honesty, had no business being in the Super Bowl.
So now they&#039;re washed up?
As it stands, they&#039;re $20 million under the cap and have 4 picks in the first two rounds. Also the return of some young high draft picks (Vareen, Cunningham, Ras-I Dowling) that were either injured or not in the mix last season.
Bottom line, they&#039;ve got at least five quality young pieces to a defense in place right now; Wilfork, Spikes, Mayo, Chung &amp; McCourtey. And the D did significantly improve after Spikes &amp; Chung returned for the postseason last season.

What they really need, and haven&#039;t had for 2+ seasons, is a defense that&#039;s capable of getting off the field on 3rd down.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Patriots made it to the Super Bowl with a defense that, in all honesty, had no business being in the Super Bowl.<br />
So now they&#8217;re washed up?<br />
As it stands, they&#8217;re $20 million under the cap and have 4 picks in the first two rounds. Also the return of some young high draft picks (Vareen, Cunningham, Ras-I Dowling) that were either injured or not in the mix last season.<br />
Bottom line, they&#8217;ve got at least five quality young pieces to a defense in place right now; Wilfork, Spikes, Mayo, Chung &amp; McCourtey. And the D did significantly improve after Spikes &amp; Chung returned for the postseason last season.</p>
<p>What they really need, and haven&#8217;t had for 2+ seasons, is a defense that&#8217;s capable of getting off the field on 3rd down.</p>
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		<title>By: neilpountney</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Feb 2012 17:55:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well said, just hearing the term “The Patroit Way” makes me want to barf. They are obviously a very good team and they are competitive each year but they are starting to get away from the formula that got them rings.
+++++++++++++++++

I understand fans of some teams wishing to bash another it is part of the game but surely in your infinite wisdom you have noticed the game has changed somewhat in that time. This team was possibly a single play away from winning the Super Bowl so it seems to me they get it!!!!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well said, just hearing the term “The Patroit Way” makes me want to barf. They are obviously a very good team and they are competitive each year but they are starting to get away from the formula that got them rings.<br />
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<p>I understand fans of some teams wishing to bash another it is part of the game but surely in your infinite wisdom you have noticed the game has changed somewhat in that time. This team was possibly a single play away from winning the Super Bowl so it seems to me they get it!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: mjdkid100</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Feb 2012 17:40:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[cannonballdookie says: Feb 16, 2012 11:50 AM

skolvikesskol says: Feb 16, 2012 11:28 AM

Im not impressed by the patriot way… They had great talent, especially on d when they won the superbowls. They think they can outsmart talent and always go cheap. All the while the owner makes millions. Well u get what u pay for and thats y the pats come up just short in their most recent sb loses. It not about the xs and os… Its about tthe billy and the joes.. Time to open up the purse strings – just a little – and get that little bit bit of talent to make them a dynasty again. However, they shld really focus their attention to the defense.
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Well said, just hearing the term “The Patroit Way” makes me want to barf. They are obviously a very good team and they are competitive each year but they are starting to get away from the formula that got them rings.

BB can’t expect to keep turning water into wine with every untouted draft pick and undrafted FA, they need to take advantage of their window and add some finishing touches to a roster that is championship caliber. Enough with the trading down of picks, maybe trade up and get a game changer.

Also, I feel like they are slowly becoming the Indianapolis Colts of the past. They would always beat Indy when they were a simple team who played strong defense and played great clutch ball, but now they are an offensive juggernaut that’s built perfectly for the regular season but gets bounced out in playoffs when they aren’t scoring 30+ a game. They got away from what won them rings, but I guess it’s hard to argue with the SB appearances.

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Are you two idiots on drugs? 

They&#039;ve gone 14-2 and 13-3 the last two years with multiple drafted Free Agents. Its not easy to win the Super bowl, 31 other teams didnt win either. 

They have 4 draft picks in the first 2 rounds and a ton of cap space. I like the Patriot way. Look for them to make big moves as Brady&#039;s career only has a few years left.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>cannonballdookie says: Feb 16, 2012 11:50 AM</p>
<p>skolvikesskol says: Feb 16, 2012 11:28 AM</p>
<p>Im not impressed by the patriot way… They had great talent, especially on d when they won the superbowls. They think they can outsmart talent and always go cheap. All the while the owner makes millions. Well u get what u pay for and thats y the pats come up just short in their most recent sb loses. It not about the xs and os… Its about tthe billy and the joes.. Time to open up the purse strings – just a little – and get that little bit bit of talent to make them a dynasty again. However, they shld really focus their attention to the defense.<br />
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<p>Well said, just hearing the term “The Patroit Way” makes me want to barf. They are obviously a very good team and they are competitive each year but they are starting to get away from the formula that got them rings.</p>
<p>BB can’t expect to keep turning water into wine with every untouted draft pick and undrafted FA, they need to take advantage of their window and add some finishing touches to a roster that is championship caliber. Enough with the trading down of picks, maybe trade up and get a game changer.</p>
<p>Also, I feel like they are slowly becoming the Indianapolis Colts of the past. They would always beat Indy when they were a simple team who played strong defense and played great clutch ball, but now they are an offensive juggernaut that’s built perfectly for the regular season but gets bounced out in playoffs when they aren’t scoring 30+ a game. They got away from what won them rings, but I guess it’s hard to argue with the SB appearances.</p>
<p>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;-</p>
<p>Are you two idiots on drugs? </p>
<p>They&#8217;ve gone 14-2 and 13-3 the last two years with multiple drafted Free Agents. Its not easy to win the Super bowl, 31 other teams didnt win either. </p>
<p>They have 4 draft picks in the first 2 rounds and a ton of cap space. I like the Patriot way. Look for them to make big moves as Brady&#8217;s career only has a few years left.</p>
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		<title>By: bencoates57</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Feb 2012 17:35:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The best has not come and gone in New England, you idiot. People said this after they lost SB 42. Since then they earned the number 1 seed in the AFC in 2010 AND 2011 and came within a few seconds of winning a SB they should have put away minutes earlier -- all with a blue chip defense that suffered unbelievable misfortune all year and should be solid next year. By your logic the only teams these players should consider playing for are those which have won SBs in the last 4 years: the Steelers, Saints, Packers, and Giants. That&#039;s a small target.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The best has not come and gone in New England, you idiot. People said this after they lost SB 42. Since then they earned the number 1 seed in the AFC in 2010 AND 2011 and came within a few seconds of winning a SB they should have put away minutes earlier &#8212; all with a blue chip defense that suffered unbelievable misfortune all year and should be solid next year. By your logic the only teams these players should consider playing for are those which have won SBs in the last 4 years: the Steelers, Saints, Packers, and Giants. That&#8217;s a small target.</p>
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		<title>By: bencoates57</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Feb 2012 17:31:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[There are other free agency options with Vincent Jackson and Randy Moss. I personally would take, if he were available, Jabar Gaffney over all these guys. Gaffney, now with the Redskins, was clutch for Brady. I remember that flea flicker bomb to Gaffney that embarrassed the Steelers in the &quot;guarantee game,&quot; the catch that won the game against the Ravens and preserved the undefeated season, the third down spearing of a high bullet in the back of the end zone to re-take the lead -- though briefly -- in the AFCCG.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are other free agency options with Vincent Jackson and Randy Moss. I personally would take, if he were available, Jabar Gaffney over all these guys. Gaffney, now with the Redskins, was clutch for Brady. I remember that flea flicker bomb to Gaffney that embarrassed the Steelers in the &#8220;guarantee game,&#8221; the catch that won the game against the Ravens and preserved the undefeated season, the third down spearing of a high bullet in the back of the end zone to re-take the lead &#8212; though briefly &#8212; in the AFCCG.</p>
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		<title>By: 6ball</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Feb 2012 17:30:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[.


  Option 1.  If Condon&#039;s relationship   with the Patriots is strained,  why not recuse himself and let an associate handle the talks with NE ?

Option 2. Make it about Tom Condon, the victim.  If things are &quot;complicated &quot;,  it&#039;s because you and mega tool Ron Borges made it that way.

Luckily for Lloyd I&#039;m not the Pat&#039;s GM.  My response would be, &quot; we have no interest in players with baggage. &quot;  Condon is nothing but baggage.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>.</p>
<p>  Option 1.  If Condon&#8217;s relationship   with the Patriots is strained,  why not recuse himself and let an associate handle the talks with NE ?</p>
<p>Option 2. Make it about Tom Condon, the victim.  If things are &#8220;complicated &#8220;,  it&#8217;s because you and mega tool Ron Borges made it that way.</p>
<p>Luckily for Lloyd I&#8217;m not the Pat&#8217;s GM.  My response would be, &#8221; we have no interest in players with baggage. &#8221;  Condon is nothing but baggage.</p>
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		<title>By: skinsrock</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Feb 2012 17:29:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Good...  Maybe they&#039;ll think LLoyd is the answer...  when the real play makers are there for the taking come Free Agency...  mainly Dwayne Bowe, Colston, V Jax, &amp; Reggie Wayne.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good&#8230;  Maybe they&#8217;ll think LLoyd is the answer&#8230;  when the real play makers are there for the taking come Free Agency&#8230;  mainly Dwayne Bowe, Colston, V Jax, &amp; Reggie Wayne.</p>
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		<title>By: bostonbornandbred</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Feb 2012 17:03:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[hendawg21 says: 
Feb 16, 2012 11:20 AM 
Oh come people now why does every player feel a need to want to go play for the Patriots now? Their run is over, sure they won the AFC East and the AFC championship but lets get real they have flaws and the best has already come and gone…but go ahead and go there see what it gets you!!!! Look at all the players who’ve flocked there since 03 thinking they would finally get a super bowl ring only to fall short…

 did you actually read the article?  Brandon Lloyd said he wanted to go play for Mcdaniels and Mcdaniels is in New England... its pretty simple... This isnt some random Post that Rosenthal put claiming everyone wants to play in New England.. thats what Lloyd said...  

Oh and the Patriots last won the superbowl in the 04 season... so any free agents who &quot;flocked there&quot; in 03 and 04 actually won a superbowl....

And finally, yes the Patriots are 0-2 in superbowls in the past 7 seasons and its heartbreaking that they lost.. but between  superbowls 36-46 they&#039;ve played in 5 of them.. ill take that ratio any day of the week .]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hendawg21 says:<br />
Feb 16, 2012 11:20 AM<br />
Oh come people now why does every player feel a need to want to go play for the Patriots now? Their run is over, sure they won the AFC East and the AFC championship but lets get real they have flaws and the best has already come and gone…but go ahead and go there see what it gets you!!!! Look at all the players who’ve flocked there since 03 thinking they would finally get a super bowl ring only to fall short…</p>
<p> did you actually read the article?  Brandon Lloyd said he wanted to go play for Mcdaniels and Mcdaniels is in New England&#8230; its pretty simple&#8230; This isnt some random Post that Rosenthal put claiming everyone wants to play in New England.. thats what Lloyd said&#8230;  </p>
<p>Oh and the Patriots last won the superbowl in the 04 season&#8230; so any free agents who &#8220;flocked there&#8221; in 03 and 04 actually won a superbowl&#8230;.</p>
<p>And finally, yes the Patriots are 0-2 in superbowls in the past 7 seasons and its heartbreaking that they lost.. but between  superbowls 36-46 they&#8217;ve played in 5 of them.. ill take that ratio any day of the week .</p>
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		<title>By: theandy59</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Feb 2012 17:02:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Tampering?  Lloyd is a free agent.  You can&#039;t &quot;tamper&quot; with a free agent; tampering only applies to players under contract with another team.

Players want to play in New England because they know they&#039;ll have a chance to win every year.  It doesn&#039;t always work out, but they&#039;re almost always in the discussion.  If Gronkowski doesn&#039;t have that ankle sprain, maybe they win this past Super Bowl.  That&#039;s football - all you want is a chance.

The Pats are always in the discussion because of Brady and Belichick.  I think the other reason players like it here is because the only thing that matters is winning.  The players that give them the best chance to win every week play, rather than players that may have been drafted higher or signed to big money deals.  Ochocinco got paid $6 million this year, but he hardly saw the field because there were better options - players see that and they love it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tampering?  Lloyd is a free agent.  You can&#8217;t &#8220;tamper&#8221; with a free agent; tampering only applies to players under contract with another team.</p>
<p>Players want to play in New England because they know they&#8217;ll have a chance to win every year.  It doesn&#8217;t always work out, but they&#8217;re almost always in the discussion.  If Gronkowski doesn&#8217;t have that ankle sprain, maybe they win this past Super Bowl.  That&#8217;s football &#8211; all you want is a chance.</p>
<p>The Pats are always in the discussion because of Brady and Belichick.  I think the other reason players like it here is because the only thing that matters is winning.  The players that give them the best chance to win every week play, rather than players that may have been drafted higher or signed to big money deals.  Ochocinco got paid $6 million this year, but he hardly saw the field because there were better options &#8211; players see that and they love it.</p>
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		<title>By: tedmurph</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Feb 2012 16:53:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Not sure I&#039;m too excited about this one. Lloyd&#039;s beeen in the league 9yrs and only has &gt;700yds receiving twice, with only one big yr. Gotta be a reason he&#039;s been with 5 different teams. Have to wonder what will happen when he gets his money.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not sure I&#8217;m too excited about this one. Lloyd&#8217;s beeen in the league 9yrs and only has &gt;700yds receiving twice, with only one big yr. Gotta be a reason he&#8217;s been with 5 different teams. Have to wonder what will happen when he gets his money.</p>
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		<title>By: pftcensorssuck</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Feb 2012 16:53:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Not a &quot;fairweather fan&quot; by any stretch, but I just can&#039;t get excited about my Pats right now ..... that was a very flat Super Bowl for us.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not a &#8220;fairweather fan&#8221; by any stretch, but I just can&#8217;t get excited about my Pats right now &#8230;.. that was a very flat Super Bowl for us.</p>
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		<title>By: cannonballdookie</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Feb 2012 16:50:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[skolvikesskol says: Feb 16, 2012 11:28 AM

Im not impressed by the patriot way… They had great talent, especially on d when they won the superbowls. They think they can outsmart talent and always go cheap. All the while the owner makes millions. Well u get what u pay for and thats y the pats come up just short in their most recent sb loses. It not about the xs and os… Its about tthe billy and the joes.. Time to open up the purse strings – just a little – and get that little bit bit of talent to make them a dynasty again. However, they shld really focus their attention to the defense.
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Well said, just hearing the term &quot;The Patroit Way&quot; makes me want to barf. They are obviously a very good team and they are competitive each year but they are starting to get away from the formula that got them rings. 

BB can&#039;t expect to keep turning water into wine with every untouted draft pick and undrafted FA, they need to take advantage of their window and add some finishing touches to a roster that is championship caliber. Enough with the trading down of picks, maybe trade up and get a game changer. 

Also, I feel like they are slowly becoming the Indianapolis Colts of the past. They would always beat Indy when they were a simple team who played strong defense and played great clutch ball, but now they are an offensive juggernaut that&#039;s built perfectly for the regular season but gets bounced out in playoffs when they aren&#039;t scoring 30+ a game. They got away from what won them rings, but I guess it&#039;s hard to argue with the SB appearances.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>skolvikesskol says: Feb 16, 2012 11:28 AM</p>
<p>Im not impressed by the patriot way… They had great talent, especially on d when they won the superbowls. They think they can outsmart talent and always go cheap. All the while the owner makes millions. Well u get what u pay for and thats y the pats come up just short in their most recent sb loses. It not about the xs and os… Its about tthe billy and the joes.. Time to open up the purse strings – just a little – and get that little bit bit of talent to make them a dynasty again. However, they shld really focus their attention to the defense.<br />
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<p>Well said, just hearing the term &#8220;The Patroit Way&#8221; makes me want to barf. They are obviously a very good team and they are competitive each year but they are starting to get away from the formula that got them rings. </p>
<p>BB can&#8217;t expect to keep turning water into wine with every untouted draft pick and undrafted FA, they need to take advantage of their window and add some finishing touches to a roster that is championship caliber. Enough with the trading down of picks, maybe trade up and get a game changer. </p>
<p>Also, I feel like they are slowly becoming the Indianapolis Colts of the past. They would always beat Indy when they were a simple team who played strong defense and played great clutch ball, but now they are an offensive juggernaut that&#8217;s built perfectly for the regular season but gets bounced out in playoffs when they aren&#8217;t scoring 30+ a game. They got away from what won them rings, but I guess it&#8217;s hard to argue with the SB appearances.</p>
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		<title>By: ballergac</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Feb 2012 16:49:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Lloyd would be a nice addition. But the lack of a big strong wr for the Pats hurt them. No deep threat either. But if they can pick up Lloyd and either draft a big wr or sign one. Doesn&#039;t have to be a big star. Maybe a Plax. A Chaz Schilens. Or hey isn&#039;t Vincent Jackson out there? That would be a coup.. they just need someone to keep the defense honest while they work underneath to Welker. Gronk and Hernandez.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lloyd would be a nice addition. But the lack of a big strong wr for the Pats hurt them. No deep threat either. But if they can pick up Lloyd and either draft a big wr or sign one. Doesn&#8217;t have to be a big star. Maybe a Plax. A Chaz Schilens. Or hey isn&#8217;t Vincent Jackson out there? That would be a coup.. they just need someone to keep the defense honest while they work underneath to Welker. Gronk and Hernandez.</p>
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		<title>By: marcuswelby70</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Feb 2012 16:49:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[marima07 says: 
Feb 16, 2012 11:23 AM 
Leave it to Borges to present the angle of whichever side sticks it to the Patriots the hardest. Gotta love the hometown press.

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Borges has never been able to deal with the fact that BB won&#039;t give the press what it wants...nor should he.
Borges&#039; best days are way, way behind him!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>marima07 says:<br />
Feb 16, 2012 11:23 AM<br />
Leave it to Borges to present the angle of whichever side sticks it to the Patriots the hardest. Gotta love the hometown press.</p>
<p>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;-</p>
<p>Borges has never been able to deal with the fact that BB won&#8217;t give the press what it wants&#8230;nor should he.<br />
Borges&#8217; best days are way, way behind him!</p>
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		<title>By: nfl1818</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Feb 2012 16:46:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It is interesting that Condon and Borges came together for this article -  neither one exists in NE.

Really odd that people want to come to NE  &quot;Their run is over, sure they won the AFC East and the AFC championship but lets get real they have flaws &quot; 

yup they have 4 flaws and each one will get fixed w/ WR one of them - pretty sure some WR would think it pretty cool to play with an allpro QB, an allpro slot WR, an alllpro TE, and another top 10 TE]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is interesting that Condon and Borges came together for this article &#8211;  neither one exists in NE.</p>
<p>Really odd that people want to come to NE  &#8220;Their run is over, sure they won the AFC East and the AFC championship but lets get real they have flaws &#8221; </p>
<p>yup they have 4 flaws and each one will get fixed w/ WR one of them &#8211; pretty sure some WR would think it pretty cool to play with an allpro QB, an allpro slot WR, an alllpro TE, and another top 10 TE</p>
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		<title>By: weepingjebus</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Feb 2012 16:45:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;He uses me differently than other offensive coordinators used me in my entire career. . . . I want to be used in ways where I feel comfortable and I can be successful and Josh knows how to do that&quot;

This sounds like a belated Valentine&#039;s Day post.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;He uses me differently than other offensive coordinators used me in my entire career. . . . I want to be used in ways where I feel comfortable and I can be successful and Josh knows how to do that&#8221;</p>
<p>This sounds like a belated Valentine&#8217;s Day post.</p>
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		<title>By: bragerber</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Feb 2012 16:45:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Only one problem- Tom Brady can&#039;t throw it down the field accurately.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Only one problem- Tom Brady can&#8217;t throw it down the field accurately.</p>
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		<title>By: rc33</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Feb 2012 16:33:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It really is amazing they&#039;ve avoided each other all these years, considering how many noteworthy players CAA reps. In the Watson situation, Condon wanted a 5 year deal, the Patriots wanted a 6 year rookie deal. Watson ended up firing Condon and giving the Patriots what they wanted. If it makes Condon feel any better, Watson was pretty much a bust in N.E.
I could see Lloyd taking less to play with the Patriots. How much less is the $64.00 question.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It really is amazing they&#8217;ve avoided each other all these years, considering how many noteworthy players CAA reps. In the Watson situation, Condon wanted a 5 year deal, the Patriots wanted a 6 year rookie deal. Watson ended up firing Condon and giving the Patriots what they wanted. If it makes Condon feel any better, Watson was pretty much a bust in N.E.<br />
I could see Lloyd taking less to play with the Patriots. How much less is the $64.00 question.</p>
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		<title>By: homelanddefense</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Feb 2012 16:31:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Borges is a clown with an obvious agenda.  Everyone from the New England area hates him.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Borges is a clown with an obvious agenda.  Everyone from the New England area hates him.</p>
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		<title>By: bigjdve</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Feb 2012 16:31:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Isn&#039;t this considered tampering? 

I mean outright telling everyone that there is a deal to be had, that can&#039;t be right.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Isn&#8217;t this considered tampering? </p>
<p>I mean outright telling everyone that there is a deal to be had, that can&#8217;t be right.</p>
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		<title>By: vicktator</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Feb 2012 16:31:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The funniest part is that Condon played for the Pats.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The funniest part is that Condon played for the Pats.</p>
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		<title>By: bubba9er</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Feb 2012 16:29:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I hate the fact that Brandon Lloyd was a 49er for a few years and didn&#039;t make any noise.  He snuck up (seemingly) out of nowhere and is now one of the better WRs in the league.  Dangit!  Now I wish he had just stuck with us.  We really need a WR that can get open.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hate the fact that Brandon Lloyd was a 49er for a few years and didn&#8217;t make any noise.  He snuck up (seemingly) out of nowhere and is now one of the better WRs in the league.  Dangit!  Now I wish he had just stuck with us.  We really need a WR that can get open.</p>
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		<title>By: kingpel</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[kingpel]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Feb 2012 16:28:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[As a Ram fan, I thought Lloyd may have been a bit overrated coming in from Denver, but now I am a believer. He catches anything that is thrown near him. I think with a QB like Brady, this guy has the potential to be one of the best.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a Ram fan, I thought Lloyd may have been a bit overrated coming in from Denver, but now I am a believer. He catches anything that is thrown near him. I think with a QB like Brady, this guy has the potential to be one of the best.</p>
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