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Forecasting the franchise tags

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Franchise tag season officially starts on Monday, February 20th. Teams have until March 5 to use their tag.

Last year, a record number of players were tagged. I’m predicting a new record will be set this year.

No Brainers

Barring a long-term extension before March 5, it would be stunning if these guys aren’t tagged. These are in no particular order.

1. Ray Rice, Ravens running back.

2. Matt Forte, Bears running back.

3. Calais Campbell, Cardinals defensive end.

4. Jermichael Finley, Packers tight end.

5. Drew Brees, Saints quarterback.

6. DeSean Jackson, Eagles wide receiver.

7. Fred Davis, Redskins tight end.

8. Brent Grimes, Falcons cornerback.

Tough calls

The next 11 players aren’t slam dunks to be franchised, but they made my cut. My total number of 19 players will surely be reduced when some players on this list get contracts before March 5. 

9. Anthony Spencer, Cowboys linebacker.

10. Matt Prater, Broncos kicker.

11. Marshawn Lynch, Seahawks running back.

12. Brandon Carr, Chiefs cornerback.

13. Wes Welker, Patriots wide receiver.

14. Sione Pouha, Jets nose tackle.

15. Dashon Goldson, 49ers safety.

16. Stevie Johnson, Bills wide receiver.

17. Josh Scobee, Jaguars kicker.

18. Cortland Finnegan, Titans cornerback.

19. Cliff Avril, Lions defensive end.

The Near Misses

Remember that I’m choosing what I think will happen, not what should happen. The following players will be considered for a tag, but I’m predicting they won’t be tagged.

1. Arian Foster, Texans running back.

2. Mike Wallace, Steelers wide receiver.

3. D’Qwell Jackson, Browns linebacker.

4. Michael Bush, Raiders running back.

5. Dwayne Bowe, Chiefs wide receiver.

6. Robert Mathis, Colts defensive end.

7. Paul Soliai, Dolphins nose tackle.

8. Vincent Jackson, Chargers wide receiver.

Teams with no tag candidates

Here are the teams without any realistic tag candidates, just so you don’t think I forgot about you guys: Carolina, Cincinnati, Minnesota, New York Giants, St. Louis, and Tampa Bay.

Now is the part where you tell me why I’m an idiot below. You can check out this column if you want an overly long explanation of why I made all the choices above.

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  1. mac3333 says: Feb 16, 2012 11:31 AM

    If the Bengals were smart they would franchise tag Reggie Nelson.

    The tag # for Safety’s is very low and it would allow them to keep their only good Safety for a moderate price without allowing Miami a chance to poach him. (He’s from Fla & his position coach is now Miami’s DC)

  2. chc4 says: Feb 16, 2012 11:34 AM

    Brent Grimes a no-brainer? I don’t think so.

  3. benh999 says: Feb 16, 2012 11:35 AM

    “Now is the part where you tell me why I’m an idiot below.”

    This statement is a pretty good example:

    “Remember that I’m choosing what I think will happen, not what should happen. The following players should at least be considered for a tag.”

    Which is it, what you think will happen or what you think should happen?

  4. teblows says: Feb 16, 2012 11:35 AM

    If Jermichael Finley gets the tag it will be as a WR as he has taken more snaps lined up in that position than in the TE position making his Franchise number much higher.

  5. shackdelrio says: Feb 16, 2012 11:36 AM

    Teams in need of a receiver are hoping the Chiefs cannot reach a long term deal with Brandon Carr.

  6. silversun60 says: Feb 16, 2012 11:37 AM

    You’re not an idiot.

    Just… some of the things you say… are… idiotic sometimes… that’s all!

  7. lionsfanatic84 says: Feb 16, 2012 11:38 AM

    Dwayne Bowe and Brandon Carr? Do the Chiefs get 2 tags this year? Also what about Cliff Avril? He’s not a no brainer, but there’s a chance, yet you don’t even mention that Detroit has a tag

  8. umbf says: Feb 16, 2012 11:41 AM

    Tampa Bay might franchise tag kicker Connor Barth, who was really the only bright spot for the Buccaneers last season. He made 26 out of 28 FGs.

  9. ridingwithnohandlebars says: Feb 16, 2012 11:41 AM

    And here I thought you never read our comments.

  10. jakek2 says: Feb 16, 2012 11:41 AM

    And that my friends will be the only time in 2012 that you see the Giants lumped in with Car, Cinn, Minn, Stl and TB.

  11. johnpietrzak says: Feb 16, 2012 11:41 AM

    Detroit???

  12. quizguy66 says: Feb 16, 2012 11:42 AM

    Nelson’s been good but that tag isn’t all that low. I think if the Bengals tag anyone it would probably be Nugent.

    -QG

  13. omegalh says: Feb 16, 2012 11:42 AM

    Finley isn’t a no brainer. GB doesn’t need him. He isn’t any better than Keller on the Jets.

  14. dabreesknees says: Feb 16, 2012 11:42 AM

    Give me a good reason why Prater shouldn’t be a no-brainer. Too often, kickers are underrated and underestimated, but just look at some of the kickers who make or break games: Akers, Vinatieri, Tynes (say what you want, he kicked the NYG to two Superbowls), and of course Cundiff in the shame category. Prater is a reliable kicker who can sink FGs from inside the Broncos’ own half. If you think Tebow is a keeper, then at least tag this guy – he might be the one who saves Denver more than once when Timmy’s luck finally runs out and he’s left staring at two mean DEs on 3rd and long from the 50.

  15. hikohadon says: Feb 16, 2012 11:44 AM

    The Browns have already said definitively that D’Qwell Jackson will be returning next season, so you might as well move him up to “No Brainer”.

  16. rc33 says: Feb 16, 2012 11:45 AM

    IMO, Welker’s a slam dunk for the franchise tag this year. Regardless of how replaceable we may believe he is or how he may be just a “Brady-made” WR, he’s still too damn productive to allow to walk. Giving him a long-term deal (at age 31) is more up in the air but after being waaay underpaid for 5 seasons, $9.4 million for 2012 is palatable.

  17. benh999 says: Feb 16, 2012 11:46 AM

    @mac3333,
    I don’t think there is a tag value for safeties. They are defensive backs along with cornerbacks. It is similar for DL and OL — RG and LT have the same cap number, ditto for DE/DT, etc.

  18. keevel says: Feb 16, 2012 11:47 AM

    lionsfanatic84 says: Feb 16, 2012 11:38 AM

    Dwayne Bowe and Brandon Carr? Do the Chiefs get 2 tags this year?
    ———————————————————–

    That is why one is a near miss.

  19. kriswd40 says: Feb 16, 2012 11:47 AM

    How is Jermichael Finley a no-brainer? Between his drops and his throwing the defense under the bus for the Packer’s loss, I don’t think it’s even a give that they want him back. I live in Wisconsin and there are a lot of fans here that would like to see him gone.

  20. phillyphever says: Feb 16, 2012 11:51 AM

    Carl Nicks and Colston should at least be mentioned on the list, just in case Brees does sign before getting tagged.

  21. burntorangehorn says: Feb 16, 2012 11:52 AM

    teblows says:
    Feb 16, 2012 11:35 AM
    If Jermichael Finley gets the tag it will be as a WR as he has taken more snaps lined up in that position than in the TE position making his Franchise number much higher.
    ================================
    Snaps at WR? Just being flexed out on a play doesn’t mean being a WR that play.

  22. phillyphever says: Feb 16, 2012 11:54 AM

    Plus, I would let DJax walk. Game changer: yes. Worth the $9 million franchise tag? Not a chance. I rather the Eagles get Dwayne Bowe and pay him that money than DeSean.

  23. norrinradd12 says: Feb 16, 2012 11:55 AM

    Connor Barth made 93% of his FGs. His only miss from inside 55 hit the upright.

  24. bleedgreen says: Feb 16, 2012 11:55 AM

    If the Chargers actually franchise Vincent Jackson again, AJ Smith will officially be the dumbest human being on the planet. How many times does he need to franchise Jackson before he either gives him a long term deal, or just lets him go?

  25. uwsptke says: Feb 16, 2012 12:00 PM

    teblows says:
    Feb 16, 2012 11:35 AM
    If Jermichael Finley gets the tag it will be as a WR as he has taken more snaps lined up in that position than in the TE position making his Franchise number much higher.

    ===================

    False. He will argue that he is a WR ($9 mil/year) rather than a TE ($4 mil/year), but that will be up to an arbitrator. He can argue that he splits out often, but how often do you see a WR with his hand on the ground? Never. It will be tough for him to make that arguement, because if he wins it will essentially make the TE franchise tag obsolete.

    The reason I think he would lose the argument is that the franchise number for TE’s is going to correct itself in the next few years. After Sharpe, Gonzalez and Gates pioneered the new breed of TE’s, Finley is the first of the new wave of athletic TE’s that are matchup nightmares. Graham, Gronk, Hernandez, Davis, etc. will all get new deals in the next few years that will blow that $4mil/year tag number out of the water. The market will correct itself. This isn’t a situation like Suggs arguing he should get the DE franchise money rather than the OLB money since he’s a 3-4 rush LB. In that case, the arbitrator created a “Hybrid” tag for 3-4 OLB’s. It would be insanity for an arbitrator to do the same (or rule he is a WR) for Finley, since every TE that comes after will claim they are a Hybrid or a WR. Hardly anyone uses TE’s in the traditional sense, and those TE’s would never even be considered for the franchise tag anyways. So let the market correct itself. To do otherwise would be chaos.

  26. theroc5156 says: Feb 16, 2012 12:02 PM

    jakek2 says:
    Feb 16, 2012 11:41 AM
    And that my friends will be the only time in 2012 that you see the Giants lumped in with Car, Cinn, Minn, Stl and TB.

    _______________________________

    Hey, you can also lump the Bengals with the Giants when you look at all who made the playoffs.

  27. thefiesty1 says: Feb 16, 2012 12:06 PM

    Spencer? Why him? They should let them all go and start over with all new players and owner.

  28. jakek2 says: Feb 16, 2012 12:09 PM

    Clarification please….Since Desean Jackson refuses to run routes on half the field, does that mean Philly only has to pay him half of the tag?

  29. purplengold says: Feb 16, 2012 12:10 PM

    no franchise players,
    no stadium deal either.
    a bleak offseason.

  30. timunga says: Feb 16, 2012 12:10 PM

    I agree Gregg, who really cares about Detroit.

  31. uschawk says: Feb 16, 2012 12:14 PM

    Not sure how Beast Mode could be a tough call. He was only the entire offense of the team in the last 2/3 of the season. Not to mention the only player to get really excited about on offense for the Seahawks…well maybe Doug Baldwin too but the guy ran like a man possessed last year.

  32. xpensivewinos says: Feb 16, 2012 12:15 PM

    bleedgreen -

    The existing body of work does not already have you convinced that AJ Smith is the dumbest……. :)

  33. FinFan68 says: Feb 16, 2012 12:15 PM

    You can remove Soliai from your near misses. He was tagged last year and is not worth the money. He will go to a 3-4 team because he is solid but not great. There is no way the Dolphins tag anybody this year.

  34. johosophat says: Feb 16, 2012 12:23 PM

    Packers will tag Finley they aren’t dumb enough to let him walk. They see him as a great player in the future and they are probably right. Year a bad drops was an anomaly and if not they can get rid of him next year easily. He never threw the defense under the bus either, they did that to themselves. regardless I don’t think he called them out ever. I’ll be glad to have him back

  35. Grulks says: Feb 16, 2012 12:25 PM

    Could have sworn someplace that SD already said they would not tag VJ. I could be mistaken on that, but at any rate, it makes no sense to tag a WR for 3 years straight.

    I can’t see Dallas tagging Spencer. He has not consistently performed during his tenure. Except for this last year, he has been average at best. There is no excuse for that, when you are lining up opposite DW, and outside of Ratliff. Both of them get double teamed often, as such, anyone with talent and drive should be getting consistent double digit sacks.

    Skins have a real dilemma with Davis. He is one failed test away from a year suspension. I almost feel like it’s better to walk in that situation. A one year TAG does not protect you in any way there, except to maybe draft a TE and hope that you can groom him during that year to start the following.

  36. teblows says: Feb 16, 2012 12:25 PM

    uwsptke … good point.. should have phrased it.. “will try to argue to be classified as a WR”

    kinda like the Suggs thing.

    Any agent and player would try for more money if given the tag

  37. shadowgm1 says: Feb 16, 2012 12:32 PM

    Uhhh…I think Finley has played himself out of Green Bay, what with the terrible play / complaining of bad treatment during the team’s Super Bowl / shots across the Packers bow regarding how he and his agent will demand top WR money. They already have Williams and Taylor on board, so at best Finley is in “Tough Call” territory. I say he walks.

  38. twoodham says: Feb 16, 2012 12:36 PM

    Regarding Brent Grimes – I agree he should be franchised. However, I’m hoping the Falcons do that so they can trade him for some draft picks.

    The man has skills, but he’s 29 and probably won’t have the athleticism needed to overcome his lack of stature much longer.

  39. shadowgm1 says: Feb 16, 2012 12:40 PM

    uwsptke says:Feb 16, 2012 12:00 PM

    teblows says:
    Feb 16, 2012 11:35 AM
    If Jermichael Finley gets the tag it will be as a WR as he has taken more snaps lined up in that position than in the TE position making his Franchise number much higher.

    ===================

    False. He will argue that he is a WR ($9 mil/year) rather than a TE ($4 mil/year), but that will be up to an arbitrator. He can argue that he splits out often, but how often do you see a WR with his hand on the ground? Never. It will be tough for him to make that arguement, because if he wins it will essentially make the TE franchise tag obsolete.

    The reason I think he would lose the argument is that the franchise number for TE’s is going to correct itself in the next few years. After Sharpe, Gonzalez and Gates pioneered the new breed of TE’s, Finley is the first of the new wave of athletic TE’s that are matchup nightmares. Graham, Gronk, Hernandez, Davis, etc. will all get new deals in the next few years that will blow that $4mil/year tag number out of the water. The market will correct itself. This isn’t a situation like Suggs arguing he should get the DE franchise money rather than the OLB money since he’s a 3-4 rush LB. In that case, the arbitrator created a “Hybrid” tag for 3-4 OLB’s. It would be insanity for an arbitrator to do the same (or rule he is a WR) for Finley, since every TE that comes after will claim they are a Hybrid or a WR. Hardly anyone uses TE’s in the traditional sense, and those TE’s would never even be considered for the franchise tag anyways. So let the market correct itself. To do otherwise would be chaos.
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    Actually, they have a shot to get the arbitrator to side with them on WR money, thank McCarthy for that. This kid is an attitude and a problem, just because McCarthy likes him does not mean he needs to stay with the Packers (see Ryan Grant). He’s proven he’s a cancer and his bad attitude has already affected his potential. He’s shot. Good luck extorting that WR money from any other team, and good riddance Finley.

  40. 49erjohnny says: Feb 16, 2012 12:41 PM

    Telling how no one ever brings up Alex Smith as a possibility for the franchise tag.

  41. mrnickles says: Feb 16, 2012 12:45 PM

    Give me a good reason why Prater shouldn’t be a no-brainer

    ____________________________

    Because it’s Denver…..

  42. mrnickles says: Feb 16, 2012 12:46 PM

    14. Sione Pouha, Jets nose tackle.

    Jets won’t tag him….but they’ll bring him back on a 2-3 year deal.

  43. chadgoy says: Feb 16, 2012 12:52 PM

    I’d say an almost sure thing is the Raiders tagging Tyvon Branch. He was the only solid player in the secondary, and will be a priority.

  44. EJ says: Feb 16, 2012 12:54 PM

    The Bills will get a long term contract set with Stevie Johnson before March 5th. He is too important to the teams future growth.

  45. gator2006 says: Feb 16, 2012 12:58 PM

    Why doesn’t anybody talk about using a transition tag instead?

  46. gravedigger93 says: Feb 16, 2012 12:58 PM

    Finley isn’t going to be getting the tag for Green Bay, Scott Wells is. He’s a core player for GB and there hasn’t been any progress towards a new deal. Finley is a luxury, not a necessity, and he’s not a blue chip player. They use the same tact they used last offseason with James Jones. They will let him test the FA waters but ultimately the Packers will be the only team to give him a good deal. It’s going to be a humbling experience for him as I imagine it was for James Jones.

  47. hawkforlife says: Feb 16, 2012 1:06 PM

    @ uschawk

    As much as I’d like to see “The Beast” back I’d franchise Red Bryant. You can find running backs but a man that big that can play DE and at that level, not out there. Can’t lose him.

  48. Loose Changeup says: Feb 16, 2012 1:11 PM

    Brees getting a franchise tag isn’t a no brainer. Good chance that the Saints use a tag, but it’ll probably be Nicks.

  49. goldrush36 says: Feb 16, 2012 1:14 PM

    @uwsptke…………….. Vernon Davis has been in the league 2 years longer than Finley and just signed a huge extension. He is among the top 3 paid at the position if not top and technically Davis would be the first of the new wave. Also, Finley has a load of talent, but I don’t believe he could unseat any of those guys you mention as a starter. He is much more like a more expensive Delanie Walker with a big mouth…. A matchup nightmare that is too inconsistent with the drops. Walker would likely start on 20 teams or more in the NFL if he weren’t playing opposite Davis but he wouldn’t be grouped among the elite and neither should Finley. @49erJohnny umm because they aren’t paying him 15 mil even if for only a year. It’s cheaper to give him a backloaded contract and cut him if he doesn’t keep climbing. @ Bleedgreen…. I’m pretty sure the new CBA prevents them from slapping a 3rd FT on VJax anyway, but regardless I think they are letting him walk. As to Carr and Bowe…. yes KC please tag Carr :D

  50. rickyrich14 says: Feb 16, 2012 1:14 PM

    How is Tyvon Branch not on any of these lists? Great reporting.

  51. johosophat says: Feb 16, 2012 1:17 PM

    Actually, they have a shot to get the arbitrator to side with them on WR money, thank McCarthy for that. This kid is an attitude and a problem, just because McCarthy likes him does not mean he needs to stay with the Packers (see Ryan Grant). He’s proven he’s a cancer and his bad attitude has already affected his potential. He’s shot. Good luck extorting that WR money from any other team, and good riddance Finley.

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    If you are Finley’s agent you have to try and make him the most money or you are doing a disservice to him. In fact you’d be moronic not to make the WR/TE argument, I think they’ll find a middle ground. I don’t understand how he is a cancer… He really has matured and his “bad attitude” doesn’t really ever show up.
    Yeah he wanted to be in the Super Bowl picture, deservedly so, he played up until the moron Donald Lee fumbled and got him hurt in 2010.
    The Packers can’t afford to fall behind teams like the Saints and Patriots and have nothing at TE again (remember the end of the 2010 season without him?) if the Packers don’t bring him back the position looks bleak to say the least with two second year players and Quarless coming off an ACL tear.

  52. willjasper says: Feb 16, 2012 1:18 PM

    No Mario Williams?

  53. gobs56 says: Feb 16, 2012 1:21 PM

    Giants have only used the franchise tag twice… So great guess that they wont use it.

  54. noquickreactionshere says: Feb 16, 2012 1:21 PM

    benh999 says:
    Feb 16, 2012 11:46 AM
    @mac3333,
    I don’t think there is a tag value for safeties. They are defensive backs along with cornerbacks. It is similar for DL and OL — RG and LT have the same cap number, ditto for DE/DT, etc.

    ______________________________

    Your wrong about almost all three, safetys have their own tag number (6.5 mil) DE and DT have diff tag numbers (just over 12 Mil for DE and 7 mil for DT) and OL is the only area where they all have the same tag number… kind of dumb considering that the pay scale for each position is so differant. Not only do tackles make more than guards but LT make more than RT.

    Just my opinion…it hurts teams trying to franchize a center or guard but helps teams trying to franchize a LT.

  55. glazerh8er says: Feb 16, 2012 1:22 PM

    Glazers, buy all of them that don’t get tagged. I don’t care if that method doesn’t work. It would be a HUGE upgrade over last year’s method that didn’t work.

  56. marshawnlynchlookslikepredator says: Feb 16, 2012 1:23 PM

    Why would the Broncos tag their kicker? I would think they could just sign him to a short term deal a lot cheaper than wasting their franchise tag on him. Jano’s salary alone has to bring the tag above what they could get away with paying Prater

  57. mikebrownistheworstownerinprosports says: Feb 16, 2012 1:25 PM

    @ jakek2

    You do realize the Bengals made the playoffs last year…right?

    They are projected by most to get there again in 2012. So maybe you should re-think your statement.

  58. havok82 says: Feb 16, 2012 1:30 PM

    Houston can’t tag Williams and stay anywhere near the cap. They tag him and it’s 23 million right there. If they tag anyone, it’s Foster.

  59. chocolatebaconbutter says: Feb 16, 2012 1:34 PM

    Jermichael Finley is the most useless player in the NFL. Dude can bench a refrigerator and jump over a van, but he can’t catch a 10 yard dig route.

  60. fmlizard says: Feb 16, 2012 1:40 PM

    Carr might not be good enough to warrant a tag and Bowe reeks of “pack it in once I get paid”.

    That said, the Chiefs better do some serious spending on retaining those guys or landing a few whales from other teams. One source I have seen says they have over $60M(!!) in cap room counting the rollover from last season.

    Going to have to start spending just to meet the salary floor.

  61. magnusthe1st says: Feb 16, 2012 1:58 PM

    Two things:
    1) Finley is NOT a lock to receive the tag. Maybe if he could live up to the hype and his talent potential, it could be plausible. He could start by actually catching 2 balls in a row and not showboating when he catches 1 out of 10.

    2) The Packers have more than shown that they can do just fine without him. They’re deep at receiver and have a couple of really promising guys at tight end.

    Finley is a guy of great potential, no question. But his attitude and lack of focus make him a good candidate to make for a high risk free agent to some team willing to pay him the money. I really wouldn’t be shocked if they do make an offer, it’ll be a mid-level contract and with some incentives.

    I say let him walk and win another Super Bowl without him.

  62. johosophat says: Feb 16, 2012 2:09 PM

    I’m not sure what’s up with all the Finley hate, I think he’ll be a fan favorite after this season when he tears it up. Then everyone’ll say “I was on the Finley train all along!”.

    And if he leaves, I guess its don’t know what you got till it’s gone, and the wide open passing game from last year will have to close up without an option at TE and no mismatch to draw multiple defenders away from the other guys.

  63. theytukrjobs says: Feb 16, 2012 2:19 PM

    Finley could successfully argue that he is a WR because that is the position that he generally lines up in. That is how they use him. If he gets hurt or pulled for a few plays, they don’t replace his position in their base offense with a TE. They use a WR. They use their actual TE’s the way most teams use TE’s.

    He certainly is a hybrid position so maybe they can compromise but his primary role on their team is a big bodied pass catcher who lines up split wide or in the slot.

  64. christopher525 says: Feb 16, 2012 2:57 PM

    If Soliai hits the market, Carolina better make a move. I would prefer Pouha, even though he’s an idiot, but he’ll get tagged, certainly.

  65. LoCoSu@%s says: Feb 16, 2012 3:58 PM

    49erjohnny says:
    Feb 16, 2012 12:41 PM
    Telling how no one ever brings up Alex Smith as a possibility for the franchise tag.

    —————————

    Alex will not be franchised, the 49ers will re-sign him and he does not want to go anywhere else.

  66. fbjule says: Feb 16, 2012 6:12 PM

    Everyone loves finley, but the stats are what they are, he is not an elite tight end, he may become one but so might ed dickson, hernandez, gresham, fred davis, dustin keller, pettigrew……finleys best season of his career was last season, he was 24. The stats are 55 rec (14th among all TE’s) 767 yards (12 among all TE’s) 8 td’s (3rd among all tight ends). Why should the packers give this guy big money HE HASNT DONE ANYTHING ELITE YET. he should be happy they offer him the 4 million dollar franchise tag, then come out next year ball out become a pro bowler then he will get paid. hes not in the class of ray rice, foster, dashon goldson, even desean jackson. They have all proven to be elite at there position and deserve to be paid

  67. guvsta says: Feb 16, 2012 7:36 PM

    gator2006 says:
    Feb 16, 2012 12:58 PM
    Why doesn’t anybody talk about using a transition tag instead?
    *********************************
    Doesn’t exist anymore- part of the new CBA.

  68. shadowgm1 says: Feb 17, 2012 1:40 AM

    johosophat says:Feb 16, 2012 1:17 PM

    Actually, they have a shot to get the arbitrator to side with them on WR money, thank McCarthy for that. This kid is an attitude and a problem, just because McCarthy likes him does not mean he needs to stay with the Packers (see Ryan Grant). He’s proven he’s a cancer and his bad attitude has already affected his potential. He’s shot. Good luck extorting that WR money from any other team, and good riddance Finley.

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    If you are Finley’s agent you have to try and make him the most money or you are doing a disservice to him. In fact you’d be moronic not to make the WR/TE argument, I think they’ll find a middle ground. I don’t understand how he is a cancer… He really has matured and his “bad attitude” doesn’t really ever show up.
    Yeah he wanted to be in the Super Bowl picture, deservedly so, he played up until the moron Donald Lee fumbled and got him hurt in 2010.
    The Packers can’t afford to fall behind teams like the Saints and Patriots and have nothing at TE again (remember the end of the 2010 season without him?) if the Packers don’t bring him back the position looks bleak to say the least with two second year players and Quarless coming off an ACL tear.
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    Respectfully, there is a reason they drafted the 2010 Mackey Award Winner in Williams last offseason. Maturity was a rather large red flag for Finley throughout his career. He’s shown his immaturity in comments regarding team management (the team photo incident at the Super Bowl) as well as his implications as to the performance of the defense. Facts are this team played better without him in the playoffs than with him all season long. Argue the point as you wish, but they won a championship without “Mr. Wonderful” already. It’s not exactly leaving the roster in tatters with more promising prospects like Williams and Taylor. I think it’s safe to say Quarless is done, at least in the NFL. He was having a hard enough time with separation and speed to the ball before the knee injury. He was also the first string TE in the Super Bowl with those hinderances.

  69. shadowgm1 says: Feb 17, 2012 1:50 AM

    johosophat says:Feb 16, 2012 2:09 PM

    I’m not sure what’s up with all the Finley hate, I think he’ll be a fan favorite after this season when he tears it up. Then everyone’ll say “I was on the Finley train all along!”.

    And if he leaves, I guess its don’t know what you got till it’s gone, and the wide open passing game from last year will have to close up without an option at TE and no mismatch to draw multiple defenders away from the other guys.
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    The normal gametime starting lineup cards list four wide and no TE option for Green Bay. That’s why he’s been flexed out quite often and he and his agent have a leg to stand on with this WR money arguement. Spread systems normally don’t sport TE’s with top pay. Look at Ernie Conwell and Roland Williams with the Rams during the Greatest Show on Turf. He is not a necessity, and I directly challenge anyone who claims he can improve on his lackluster performance as a Packer (outside of 2009) somewhere else. He’s streaky, and always has been. He can’t maintain an efficient high level of play for an entire season, and he’s not worth top five TE money or even worthy of the conversation.

  70. shadowgm1 says: Feb 17, 2012 1:55 AM

    Plus, he’d been covered rather effectively by Chase Blackburn alone against the Giants. He’s not the “matchup nightmare” everyone proclaims him to be. Linebackers alone effectively took him out of gameplans, and his inability to make plays (or even catches) in such a mismatch situation allowed defenses to choke out deep ball players like Nelson and Jennings with their safeties and rendered the offense rather useless. It’s on tape, look for yourself.

  71. mrw423 says: Feb 18, 2012 5:15 PM

    “Remember that I’m choosing what I think will happen, not what should happen. The following players will be considered for a tag, but I’m predicting they won’t be tagged.”

    So which is it? Do you predict they will or won’t be tagged? Pick one.

  72. cornersss says: Feb 18, 2012 6:06 PM

    ““Remember that I’m choosing what I think will happen, not what should happen. The following players should at least be considered for a tag.”

    Which is it, what you think will happen or what you think should happen?”

    People have horrible reading comprehension now a days.

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