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No progress between Ravens, Ray Rice

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Lost in the talk about the commencement of talks on a new contract for quarterback Joe Flacco is the fact that, while Flacco remains under contract for one more year, running back Ray Rice has an expired contract now.

A league source tells PFT that the Ravens and Rice have made no progress, which seems to make Rice a sure-fire candidate for the franchise tag.

Rice told PFT Live last month that he’ll be a Raven in 2012, which means that, if the Ravens use the franchise tag, he’ll likely sign it quickly and focus on getting ready for his fifth NFL season.

Still, it’s hard not to wonder whether another team decides to try to sign Rice away from the Ravens, since the price for an offer sheet that the Ravens choose not to match would be a pair of first-round draft picks.  For currently teams at the bottom of the round (like the Patriots or the Giants, who play in Rice’s home state/area of New York/New Jersey) and likely to be in the same position next year, trading a pair of low first-round picks for a Pro Bowl talent still in the front end of his prime could be tempting.

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34 Responses to “No progress between Ravens, Ray Rice”
  1. raven410 says: Feb 16, 2012 2:10 PM

    Pay the man! He IS the Ravens offense.

  2. steelerhypocrite says: Feb 16, 2012 2:13 PM

    Rice is awesome and without him the Ravens will become a turd franchise, like the Browns.

  3. nyg88 says: Feb 16, 2012 2:14 PM

    Ray Rice as a Giant would be absolutely ridiculous!

  4. t2live says: Feb 16, 2012 2:15 PM

    At least if he gets the tag he will be one of the top 5 paid RB’s in the league. Still he should be pushing for a deal, is he and always has been a bright spot on the offensive side of the ball. Oz, pay the man!

  5. pedrovillegas21 says: Feb 16, 2012 2:18 PM

    GIANTS could do it, last pick in the draft for RICE, YES SIR!!!!

  6. braven4evr says: Feb 16, 2012 2:18 PM

    He isn’t going anywhere! This will/has to get done!

  7. domeunit says: Feb 16, 2012 2:19 PM

    The Ravens aren’t trading away Rice for a 1st rounder, so let’s put that right to bed. They will figure out an appropriate contract for him, I just wish they would do it without the franchise tag so they can keep Grubbs

  8. southpaw2k says: Feb 16, 2012 2:28 PM

    “For teams at the bottom of the round (like the Patriots or the Giants, who play in Rice’s home state of Jersey), trading a pick for a Pro Bowl talent still in the front end of his prime could be tempting.”

    Pipe dreams. The Ravens aren’t about to let their best offensive player jump ship for an extra first round pick. Sure, it’d be tempting for the Patriots or Giants to consider trading for him, but Ozzie Newsome isn’t going to permit that.

  9. jsho55 says: Feb 16, 2012 2:34 PM

    Will be tough to sign him when you have to sign your QB to top 5 money…….wait, what?

  10. illiniftw says: Feb 16, 2012 2:34 PM

    Why do the Bears get crap all the time for not signing Forte yet, but nobody says anything about the Ravens being cheap, etc? Forte even has an injury history!

  11. NakedCowboy! says: Feb 16, 2012 2:38 PM

    Are you seriously saying that a team will not trade a top 5 pick for Rice? Leaving out Luck and barring dire position needs, do you see anyone with even enough potential to achieve what rice has already achieved?

    Ravens will never let him go… till he has got nothing left… that’s a life of star RB… always a struggle to get a contract and after 3-4 years, ppl start reading out the obituaries…

  12. nesportsfan0428 says: Feb 16, 2012 2:39 PM

    While Flacco’s agent is pretending he’s a top 5 QB based on the Raven’s wins, Ray Rice is the best back in the league and the main offensive reason for all those wins.

    Pay the man.

  13. zaggs says: Feb 16, 2012 2:40 PM

    They better sign Rice if they want to have a hope of Flacco getting close to top 5 status!

  14. steelersarewhatfootballisabout says: Feb 16, 2012 2:41 PM

    How ironic the other day when Ravens fans were piling all over the Steelers front office about them getting their salary cap managed with the comments section on that article, that they suddenly are calm and resolute (or at least excited in a positive way) that ‘their’ front office knows what they’re doing. They do have a solid front office, thanks to Ozzie Newsome, but where’s the sense of reality and objectivity then when they were piling on the Steelers?

  15. tellmeyouhaveaclue says: Feb 16, 2012 2:44 PM

    How can they afford to pay him tag money when they need to pay Flacco $50M/year because he’s the greatest quarterback ever!!!

  16. saje43 says: Feb 16, 2012 2:44 PM

    I really don’t believe Ray is going anywhere. They’ll take care of him, they know they need to.

  17. gregeer says: Feb 16, 2012 2:55 PM

    Why on earth would the Ravens trade Rice away. He’s clearly the best player on their offense and they wouldn’t be able to replace him/make their team better in other ways if they were to trade him.

  18. clavette says: Feb 16, 2012 2:58 PM

    0% chance the giants get rice. Would I love it? Absoluetl but the giants are tight to the cap and need the money to adress other positions. Only free agent on their radar should be dqwell jackson. What a beast he would be on that team

  19. omegalh says: Feb 16, 2012 3:00 PM

    Why would anyone franchise a RB? Check the last 10 SB winners. Any overpriced RBs?

    Great RBs winning the SB is so 90s.

  20. lgbarn says: Feb 16, 2012 3:06 PM

    Welcome to the Ray Jay… Ray

  21. jamaltimore says: Feb 16, 2012 3:26 PM

    Funny, did anyone see Ray Rice in the two postseason games? What did he have like two catches and 60 yards a game? Is he explosive, YES, is he a 3 down back NO! Does he along with the rest of the offense disappear YES! Sure I hope he retires a Raven but just amazed at how the blame never falls at his foot. The reality is Ricky may have been a better first option for the ravens in both those playoffs games and the year before the TD machine was Willis not RR…

    Yes he catches screen passes but that’s only because the rest of the field is covered and in many times he’s so open when he catches he could walk for 10 yards.

  22. twonuse says: Feb 16, 2012 3:44 PM

    A minor correction; Ray Rice’s home state in New York, or at least that is where he was raised.

  23. vegaskid21 says: Feb 16, 2012 4:00 PM

    Sorry Mr. Rice, you have to wait to get paid. We gotta pay Flacco 15 millon more per year. Apperantly someone told him he was a top 5 QB.

  24. moderndayjhericurl says: Feb 16, 2012 4:02 PM

    He’s waiting to see what Flacco gets so he can demand more.

  25. schlonkie2 says: Feb 16, 2012 4:16 PM

    How is this a good front office if they are looking to sign arun of the mill qb to a long term deal with a year still left on his contract and they dont seem to be nearly as worried with signing rice to somthin like a 3 year deal when he is about to be an FA?

    Flacco whines about respect, Rice just plays hard and thanks the organization for an opportunity. The only thing Flacco has contributed to that fan base is a reason to wear a sweet fake fu manchu to games.

    I know RB’s NFL lives are short but come on….Ray Rice is that entire offense. After every Ravens loss all I heard was how they lost because they didnt give Rice enough touches. Not because Flacco didnt have enough attempts, not because they didnt get the ball to Boldin and Smith…w/out Ray Rice they are a .500 team at best.

  26. firegoodell says: Feb 16, 2012 4:45 PM

    the steelers or Bengals should consider signing him and giving up the two first round picks if they could work in into their salary cap … they each instantly get better and the ravens offense immediately gets even worse….that’s a win win for the bengals and steelers

  27. trab1011 says: Feb 16, 2012 4:55 PM

    To the Giants and Pats fans out there…look elsewhere, it ain’t happening.

    To Ravens fans…relax. Ngata got franchised and they went down to the last hour before the deal got done last year. Not an angry word was said by either side during the process.

    To the Bears fan, you guys get grief because you’re cheap. The Ravens take care of the guys they want.

    Flacco, Rice and Webb aren’t going ANYWHERE. If J. Johnson and McClain and the safeties leave its because Ozzie let them leave. Grubbs is the only one where we might be in a bind on.

  28. raven410 says: Feb 16, 2012 4:57 PM

    jamaltimore says:
    Feb 16, 2012 3:26 PM
    Funny, did anyone see Ray Rice in the two postseason games? What did he have like two catches and 60 yards a game? Is he explosive, YES, is he a 3 down back NO! Does he along with the rest of the offense disappear YES! Sure I hope he retires a Raven but just amazed at how the blame never falls at his foot. The reality is Ricky may have been a better first option for the ravens in both those playoffs games and the year before the TD machine was Willis not RR…

    Yes he catches screen passes but that’s only because the rest of the field is covered and in many times he’s so open when he catches he could walk for 10 yards.

    …………………………………………………

    The Ravens are like 27-3 when Ray gets 20 or more touches. If it weren’t for Ray..the Ravens might not have made the playoffs

  29. benwantsababyruth says: Feb 16, 2012 5:13 PM

    @schlonkie2
    You don’t know what you’re talking about.

  30. nflwatcher says: Feb 16, 2012 5:21 PM

    Why is it I have seen at least 10 stories on PFT about how stupid the Patriots are for not getting free agent Wes Welker signed to a new contract but this is the first story I have seen concerning Rice and the Ravens.

  31. schlonkie2 says: Feb 16, 2012 5:47 PM

    @benwantsababyruth

    If I give you a baby ruth will you bless me with your knowledge?

    Im assuming ur a genius Ravens fan. They all know what they are talking about.

  32. mdegraide says: Feb 16, 2012 6:30 PM

    You absolutely give Flacco a long-term deal before Rice. Someone made an earlier. Who was the last great RB to win a superbowl? Marshal Faulk? 1999? Not to mention Chris Johnson & Adrian Peterson as exhibits A & B of what can happen after you commit BIG $ and multiple years to a RB. It’s not the way of this league anymore.

  33. mdegraide says: Feb 16, 2012 6:38 PM

    the steelers or Bengals should consider signing him and giving up the two first round picks if they could work in into their salary cap … they each instantly get better and the ravens offense immediately gets even worse….that’s a win win for the bengals and steelers

    —————————————————-

    Maybe the Ravens should do the same thing with Mike Wallace. It would only cost Baltimore 1 1st Rd pick because Wallace is only a RFA. It is totally worth it to give up the 28th pick in the draft for Wallace.

  34. ravensman says: Feb 16, 2012 10:06 PM

    steelersarewhatfootballisabout says: Feb 16, 2012 2:41 PM

    How ironic the other day when Ravens fans were piling all over the Steelers front office about them getting their salary cap managed with the comments section on that article, that they suddenly are calm and resolute (or at least excited in a positive way) that ‘their’ front office knows what they’re doing.

    I guess I owe you and every other Steelers fan an apology. You did not say “some” or “a few” Ravens fans made comments against the Steelers” cap issues, so I’m assuming you meant all Ravens fans did. Please cite one example where I did, so I can make the appropriate apology.
    This site is informative, and I enjoy sensible conversations with knowledgeable fans of opposing teams. Some people just seem to have genuine hatred towards opposing teams and their fans. Sad.

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