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Irsay’s antics could alienate Andrew Luck

As Colts owner Jim Irsay tries to lay the foundation for absorbing minimal blame if/when (when) the team releases quarterback Peyton Manning, Irsay needs to take into account one key issue.

What impact, if any, will the final days of the Manning era in Indy have on the franchise’s presumed quarterback of the future?

Andrew Luck could still try to make a power play, even if Peyton no longer is sitting atop the depth chart.  And if Luck doesn’t like the looks or sounds of the things Irsay is doing or saying when it comes to Peyton Manning, Luck could make it known that, like the last great Stanford quarterback, he doesn’t want to play for the Colts.

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  1. malgorthewarrior says: Feb 17, 2012 2:49 PM

    yeah luck is def worried about that……

    or maybe he doesn’t care because he knows the colts will keep paying him what he wants, as they did with peyton. Luck should worry about performing well enough to warrant a 25 million dollar contract in any year, much less when he’s in this 30s.

    all this situation is doing is proving that if you are not healthy enough to play quarterback, they won’t pay you 28 million dollars. SUCH AN UNREASONABLE POSITION!!!

  2. chilomane says: Feb 17, 2012 2:50 PM

    I know it’s petty but I would really like to see this happen to Irsay.

  3. hedleykow says: Feb 17, 2012 2:52 PM

    How did Irsay remain under the radar for so long as being such a strange cat? Who knew?

  4. joeydawop says: Feb 17, 2012 2:56 PM

    Andrew Luck should be worried, he should request a trade to a different team (49ers)! A fan can dream, right?……

  5. tigerdactyl says: Feb 17, 2012 2:57 PM

    There’s no way I’d want to go anywhere near this owner, but he doesn’t seem like he’ll give in and not draft Luck.

  6. hooterdawg says: Feb 17, 2012 2:59 PM

    What do people think Irsay would be saying/doing if the Colts finished 2011 at 8-8 and had no shot at either Luck or RGIII? Most of what he is doing is positioning the Colts for the arrival of Luck. Luck must know that he is a big influence. Irsay is preparing the roster for Luck to start in 2012.

  7. jettstyle says: Feb 17, 2012 3:00 PM

    Nothing that tens of millions of dollars couldn’t take care of. I don’t see Luck pulling the power play. Even with an unstable owner, he’d have a great stadium, a great coaching staff and likely some nice pieces to work with if they do any free agent shopping…

  8. tombrookshire says: Feb 17, 2012 3:04 PM

    Add Irsay to the list of laughing stock, buffoon owners of the NFL.

  9. raidermot says: Feb 17, 2012 3:04 PM

    A Stanford QB says “No Thanks” to the Colts?

    I wonder what Denver would offer for the rights to this QB?

    *makes chopping motions along fore arm*

    Same as it ever was. Same as it ever was.

  10. modestmuse23 says: Feb 17, 2012 3:06 PM

    this story is hilariously speculative

  11. hutch119 says: Feb 17, 2012 3:06 PM

    Pulling a Manning on a Manning’s former team would be great. Plus Irsay is a tool who just likes to hear his own voice, just shut up and move on peacefully and respectfully I think Peyton has earned at least that much.

  12. moderndayjhericurl says: Feb 17, 2012 3:10 PM

    It be ultimate karma if Luck pulled an Eli Manning.

  13. db3300 says: Feb 17, 2012 3:13 PM

    I’ve been saying for a few months that Luck can call the shots on this. Why anyone in his position would want to play for the Colts is a mystery. That’s not a knock on Colts fans or the city. It’s a knock on a team that has had the QB many consider the best to ever play the game but couldn’t put enough talent around him to win more than one unmemorable SB. If Peyton had played for about 15 other teams during that time, he’d have 4 or 5 more rings.

  14. kevpft says: Feb 17, 2012 3:13 PM

    The top of the draft is full of questionable team management. Wherever Luck goes is likely to be a mess.

  15. msadpoet says: Feb 17, 2012 3:13 PM

    Hahahahahaha!!!! Like I posted several weeks ago. That would be karma at its best. Luck could opt to not play in Indy no matter what. They would have to trade him. Indy will pick him no matter what. Then the bidding really begins. I would see the Seahawks giving up 2 1sts and a 2nd to get him.

  16. tommyf15 says: Feb 17, 2012 3:20 PM

    “Irsay’s antics could alienate Andrew Luck”

    Doesn’t matter. Thanks to the new CBA, Irsay owns Andrew Luck, who will play in Indianapolis for as long as Jim Irsay wants him playing there. As long as he’s good enough, Andrew Luck will never have any say over what team he plays for.

    Well, unless he sits out the 2012 season. Which he won’t do.

  17. jc327 says: Feb 17, 2012 3:22 PM

    Acts like one, too.

  18. christopher525 says: Feb 17, 2012 3:26 PM

    It’d be better karma if Luck pulled an Elway, as suggested. Say, I won’t sign, I will go to the IFL with T.O., or the arena league, for a year. This would be hilarious. He’s determined to draft Luck to “go full circle” on the Elway deal, imagine if he creates a new Elway himself.

  19. weimdog says: Feb 17, 2012 3:33 PM

    History repeats!

    Elway would not play for BOB IRSAY (Baltimore Colts) which led directly to the decline of their team and MOVE to Indy.

    Be great to see that happen again!!!!

  20. mjkelly77 says: Feb 17, 2012 3:37 PM

    Luck will get drafted by and signed by the Colts. The Swamp Boy who’s trying to hold Irsay up for $28 million is done. He was done last year and he knew it. He ripped off Irsay and his teammates for $24 million for doing absolutely nothing. Now he’s hoping some other owner is stupid enough to throw another $28 at him. By conservative estimates, he’s worth well over $100 million. Greedy. Swamp. Boy.

  21. jbcommonsense says: Feb 17, 2012 3:45 PM

    Luck traded to the Redskins for their 1st and 3rd round picks.

  22. blacknole08 says: Feb 17, 2012 3:54 PM

    Yea, I can see Luck pulling an Eli Manning/John Elway. But then again Irsay had this coming to him. Peyton Manning deserves way more respect than he is getting from the Colts organization right now.

  23. maddog111 says: Feb 17, 2012 3:55 PM

    I’m no Patriots fan, but can you imagine Bob Kraft pulling this sh-t with Brady? I can’t.

  24. colts01 says: Feb 17, 2012 3:56 PM

    It’s not so much what Irsay or Manning are saying because really they haven’t said all that much. It’s how many times all the reporters write about it and twist the words to look bad for both sides kudos to the reporters for keeping everyone blogging!! :)

  25. 1959colts says: Feb 17, 2012 4:02 PM

    If Luck dosent want to play for Colts. Draft RGIII He would love to be the No. 1 pick.

  26. phillyphever says: Feb 17, 2012 4:06 PM

    No chance, he doesn’t have the leverage of going to baseball like Elway had back in 83. I know Eli did the same thing and got his way, but that was with AJ “Lord of No Rings” Smith, who a monkey can outsmart. Doubt Luck can pull the same thing on Irsay.

  27. jgava19 says: Feb 17, 2012 4:07 PM

    Non story. Luck will be in Indy. Bank on it. And Elway had baseball to fall back on. Luck has no such thing.

  28. jgava19 says: Feb 17, 2012 4:08 PM

    The media look no better than Irsay right now. They are so trying to stir the pot, it’s just ridiculous.

  29. tommyf15 says: Feb 17, 2012 4:10 PM

    mjkelly77 says: Feb 17, 2012 3:37 PM
    Luck will get drafted by and signed by the Colts. The Swamp Boy who’s trying to hold Irsay up for $28 million is done. He was done last year and he knew it. He ripped off Irsay and his teammates for $24 million for doing absolutely nothing. Now he’s hoping some other owner is stupid enough to throw another $28 at him. By conservative estimates, he’s worth well over $100 million. Greedy. Swamp. Boy.

    Irsay knowingly and willingly entered into that agreement with Peyton Manning.

    And if anyone has been sold short in the Manning – Colts relationship, it’s Manning. The $24 M he made last year doesn’t even begin to make up for the fact that he was brutally underpaid throughout his career thanks to the draft and the franchise tag.

  30. jgava19 says: Feb 17, 2012 4:10 PM

    Elway had nothing to do with the move put of Baltimore. Learn the facts before flapping your lips.

  31. jgava19 says: Feb 17, 2012 4:11 PM

    Karma is non existent. If it was, then the Colts never would have won another Super Bowl after leaving Baltimore in the middle of the night.

  32. macbull says: Feb 17, 2012 4:13 PM

    Seriously, I doubt that Luck makes any kind of power play…but, he can’t claim he had no idea what kind man Irsay was, should his potential career goes down the tubes.

    Colts fans thinking Luck will be another Peyton Manning are in for a rude awakening. The Colts are a team in rebuilding mode and as good as Andrew Luck may be, there is only one Peyton Manning and I doubt we see another for years to come.

  33. Deb says: Feb 17, 2012 4:17 PM

    I don’t get the Irsay hate in all this. Manning signed an exorbitant contract knowing the seriousness of his condition but failing to share it with his team. Bill Polian put the team in a horrific position by making Manning the then highest-paid player in the league without knowing if he’d ever play again. The Colts lost an entire season to Manning’s selfishness and the mismanagement of the Polians. This is a multi-billion-dollar business. No owner in his right mind would just sit back, pat these people on the head, and gamble yet another season on their supposed honesty and good judgment.

    Peyton Manning may be one of the all-time greats, but he’s still coming back from a devastating injury with no evidence he’ll ever play again at his former level. In fact, he may never finish another season. Even if he did, at 36, he’d have three years at the most. Irsay is being prudent. If Luck prefers working for fools, let him take his pick–God knows there are many good choices among team owners and they’ll all be drafting early. Meanwhile the Colts can try out RGIII.

  34. djrando7 says: Feb 17, 2012 4:27 PM

    mjkelly77 says:
    Feb 17, 2012 3:37 PM
    Luck will get drafted by and signed by the Colts. The Swamp Boy who’s trying to hold Irsay up for $28 million is done. He was done last year and he knew it. He ripped off Irsay and his teammates for $24 million for doing absolutely nothing. Now he’s hoping some other owner is stupid enough to throw another $28 at him. By conservative estimates, he’s worth well over $100 million. Greedy. Swamp. Boy.

    ______________________________

    Somebody is JEALOUS! You telling me you would turn down 24mil for doing what Peyton did last season? I sure the hell wouldn’t. That team was built around him. That team IS PEYTON MANNING.

  35. hooterdawg says: Feb 17, 2012 4:29 PM

    “Luck traded to the Redskins for their 1st and 3rd round picks.”

    Apparently you don’t do much reading. It is speculated that this 2012 1st pick under the new CBA could trade for (3) 1st round picks – and possibly more. Most teams that get a franchise QB in 2012 won’t be picking this high for a long time.

  36. armycolts25 says: Feb 17, 2012 4:31 PM

    I’m tired of all the Irsay bashing, Manning has Been awesome but it’s not like he’s some saint. He got paid a lot of money to play for the Colts, had unlimited power but everyone has to move on. Irsay is doing the right thing, if Manning was healthy we all would know about it.

    Luck will love playing in Indy and Irsay is a good owner, is he a little out there….yes, but spending money to field a good team is not one of his faults.

  37. Rockets GM says: Feb 17, 2012 4:45 PM

    HISTORY LESSON FOR weimdog:
    As early as the late 1970’s, Robert Irsay was courting cities to move the Colts from Baltimore. John Elway was in High School at the time. The decay of Memorial Stadium, dwindling ticket sales and a City Legislature that was mere hours from a vote on taking the Colts (a business) away from it’s rightful owner led to an 11th hour deal with Indy Mayor William Hudnut to move the Colts to Indy, arguably Robert Irsay’s 4th location choice. The odds of the Colts leaving Indy with them having a top 5 stadium, rabid fan base, coming off (what many have said) to be one of the best Super Bowl locations ever… IS ZERO.

  38. klunge says: Feb 17, 2012 4:59 PM

    Not to worry…if Luck seems unresponsive to regular forms of wooing, Irsay will sing and play a ballad for him on his guitar. That’ll bring him around.

  39. tommyf15 says: Feb 17, 2012 5:14 PM

    I don’t get the Irsay hate in all this. Manning signed an exorbitant contract knowing the seriousness of his condition but failing to share it with his team.

    All due respect to Deb, but this is not true. If I knew Manning had neck surgery prior to signing his extension, Irsay knew it as well. If he didn’t know, that’s just lack of due dilligence on his part.

    What were Irsay’s options? Remember,the Colts had no inkling they’d wind up with the rights to Andrew Luck.

    1. Franchise Manning. He would have ended up having to pay him around $20M for 2011 anyway.

    2. Opt not to sign him. Well, someone else would have.

    3. Make a deal with him. Seemed like the best option a year ago, before the Colts had any idea they’d gain the Andrew Luck pick.

  40. musicman495 says: Feb 17, 2012 5:22 PM

    The odds of the Colts leaving Indy with them having a top 5 stadium, rabid fan base, coming off (what many have said) to be one of the best Super Bowl locations ever… IS ZERO.
    ————————————
    Without Peyton Manning, there would be no stadium, or Super Bowls in Indianapolis, and the Colts might already be in Los Angeles.

    Irsay wants to be a two bit Jerry Jones and run the team himself. And as Jerry has proven, any owner who runs his own team has a fool for a general manager.

  41. riverhorsey says: Feb 17, 2012 5:30 PM

    This sounds more like a sports media jock throwing around idle gossip.

    And that is not responsible journalism.

  42. chiadam says: Feb 17, 2012 5:32 PM

    The Colts were better off when Irsay was shoveling things up his nose and down his throat. The team was taken away from him then. Now he’s back and fancies himself a general manager.

  43. waltdawg says: Feb 17, 2012 5:41 PM

    This is actually a great point! Irsay is a freak! Luck should think about working for such a person. What other NFL owner Tweats? I mean really man!

  44. themonster49 says: Feb 17, 2012 5:49 PM

    Now this is something we can all sink our teeth into, it’s got a little more substance than the other possibilities.

    Interesting point PFT, very interesting point. I guess we will have to see.

    I for one, regarding only Andrew Luck, hope Irsay turns things around and makes Luck have to come out and say that he already previously decided not to play for the Colts. This way we would know for sure if he already just didn’t want to play for them, or if it was Irsay that swayed him to go elsewhere.

    I also think absolutely anyone that attempts a power-play in the NFL should be required to explain it in a way that has no outs, no excuses, and no options.

  45. drewzducks says: Feb 17, 2012 5:54 PM

    This would be perfect. Does he really want to play in Guberville anyway?

  46. adx321 says: Feb 17, 2012 6:00 PM

    tommyf15 says:

    Manning was brutally underpaid? lol is that really what you said?

    He’s had one of the highest contracts in the league if not THE highest his entire career.

  47. jgava19 says: Feb 17, 2012 6:07 PM

    Tool Manning 8 years to get to the Superbowl. Our new GM will build this team with balance, unlike what Polian did. Luck will get to the dance sooner than 8 years. It’s going to be fun!!!

  48. tommyf15 says: Feb 17, 2012 6:07 PM

    adx321 says: Manning was brutally underpaid? lol is that really what you said? He’s had one of the highest contracts in the league if not THE highest his entire career.

    Okay…and…? Trying to figure out the relevance here.

    Let’s say a player is worth $40 M but he only makes 1/3rd of that. You understand that he’s underpaid, right?

  49. Deb says: Feb 17, 2012 6:09 PM

    @tommyf15 …

    I’m referring to a comment Peyton made a while ago about knowing his condition was more serious than the Colts realized. It’s not so much the contract signing that’s at issue, but the guaranteed money. Just leaves me with an uneasy feeling about him. Terry Bradshaw has confessed to something similar. The Steelers trusted him and passed on Dan Marino, only to learn later Terry would have to retire. That situation is certainly coloring my opinion here.

  50. EJ says: Feb 17, 2012 6:10 PM

    jgava19 says:
    Feb 17, 2012 4:10 PM
    Elway had nothing to do with the move put of Baltimore. Learn the facts before flapping your lips.

    From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    In the 1983 NFL Draft, Elway was selected as the first overall pick by the Baltimore Colts. Elway had, by then, played two summers of minor league baseball for the New York Yankees organization, and threatened to join the Yankees full-time unless the Colts traded him.

  51. aldavisisthenfl says: Feb 17, 2012 6:15 PM

    Irsay looks to be a stoner…..just sayin’

  52. jgava19 says: Feb 17, 2012 6:23 PM

    Im very aware of the Colts situation from Baltimore and Elway. As I said, he wasn’t the reason they left Baltimore. My days of being a Colts fan started in Baltimore. I don’t need to be educated on the hows and whys.

    Can’t wait for Luck to come aboard.

  53. fmwarner says: Feb 17, 2012 6:38 PM

    No offense to Colts fans, but this would be HILARIOUS.

  54. prmpft says: Feb 17, 2012 6:48 PM

    …that’s ok – they can just pay him w/out testing him out – just send him a check now…that’s the general plan in indy, right???

  55. prmpft says: Feb 17, 2012 6:54 PM

    …is it just me or does Irsay (in that pic anyway) look kinda like kiefer sutherland (but old)…??

  56. hehateme30 says: Feb 17, 2012 6:54 PM

    It looks like Irsay had a few too many the night before.

  57. brintfatre says: Feb 17, 2012 7:05 PM

    Clearly Manning is better at politics than Irsay.

    He’s always reminded me of Geoff George anyway, a selfish player who creates drama and blames others…

  58. indyrage says: Feb 17, 2012 7:10 PM

    I cant believe the way the press and media are treating Irsay. The man paid Manning 20 million dollars to take a year off. Everyone wants to paint him as the bad guy. I honestly believe that they…..”the so called experts” want Manning in a different uniform. I will laugh when Irsay does resign Manning. He will either be a Colt, or he will retire. Mark that on your journals “so called experts” We will draft Luck and have Peyton too. He will restructure his contract because there is a chance he may not be ready until Sept. Who says you can have your cake and eat it too?

  59. tommyf15 says: Feb 17, 2012 7:20 PM

    indyrage says: I cant believe the way the press and media are treating Irsay.

    He most certainly did not. You act as if it was an act of charity, but we both know:

    1. No one knew Manning would miss all of 2011 when the contract was signed.

    2. It was either pay Manning or lose him.

    indyrage says: The man paid Manning 20 million dollars to take a year off. Everyone wants to paint him as the bad guy. I honestly believe that they…..”the so called experts” want Manning in a different uniform. I will laugh when Irsay does resign Manning. He will either be a Colt, or he will retire. Mark that on your journals “so called experts” We will draft Luck and have Peyton too. He will restructure his contract because there is a chance he may not be ready until Sept. Who says you can have your cake and eat it too?

    I think this post is going to leave you with cake on your face.

    Manning is done in Indianapolis. There’s an off-chance he may retire, but he obviously doesn’t want to.

    Why would Manning agree to re-structure his contract knowing that they’re going to draft Luck, and that he can make more money in the open market?

  60. mykl954 says: Feb 17, 2012 7:20 PM

    You better believe Archie is in his buddy, Oliver Luck’s ear reiterating what an azzclown Irsay is while giving him a primer on how to sidestep the 2012 equivalent of Spanos – and pointing out how well that worked out for Eli.

  61. deadeye says: Feb 17, 2012 7:30 PM

    Luck wants to be the #1 pick for the money. Nothing is guaranteed, and if he’s foolish enough to piss away that opportunity, then so be it. RG3 will be a worthy #1 overall pick in Luck’s place.

  62. blindshootist says: Feb 17, 2012 7:43 PM

    I was a kid living near the Colts trainng facility when the Mayflower move happened. I couldn’t hope for more if an Elway like scenario played out on them again after he lets Manning go… nobody is a sure thing..

    A bird in the hand is worth two in the bush!

    If the public would take the time to understand the injury they would realize that if his arm strength/ nerve issue returns to normal, then his risk is exactly the same as it was the day he put on a helmet.

    The Irsay family will never gain my sympathy or favor. Manning was the only reason I could even watch the Colts again…

    Please come to Miami Peyton… the weather, the lack of state taxes, and the real estate mogul owner are all favorable aspects.. the defense is already better than the Colts, and most of the parts on offense are at least comparable with a draft and free agency to fine tune for your preferences. Maybe Reggie will come with you, since he went to college down here and would certainly remain single covered with Brandon in place here. Just a thought.

  63. granadafan says: Feb 17, 2012 8:02 PM

    How ironic that another arrogant QB from Stanfurd would once again spurn the Colts.

  64. tommyf15 says: Feb 17, 2012 8:23 PM

    deadeye says: Luck wants to be the #1 pick for the money. Nothing is guaranteed, and if he’s foolish enough to piss away that opportunity, then so be it. RG3 will be a worthy #1 overall pick in Luck’s place.

    As much as I like RG3, don;t kid yourself into thinking he’s interchangable with Luck.

    Andrew Luck is a once-in-a-generation prospect, up there with John Elway, Peyton Manning, and literally no one else. No one is getting selected ahead of him.

  65. gacoltfan says: Feb 17, 2012 8:40 PM

    The only people really bashing Irsay are the media (because that’s what they do these trying to make story) and non-Colt fans. Colt fans know that Irsay has been a very good owner and not at all like his father. We may not fully agree with the way he handled the Manning situation in the press, but other than that there are very few instances to complain about. He has never been afraid to spend money to make the Colts a winner. In 1998, Polian was considered one of the best GM’s around, he became available and Irsay spared no expense to get him. Same thing with Dungy. What owner of a small market team has been committed to building a winning team more than Irsay? As a fan that’s a pretty good trait to have from your owner.

  66. tommyf15 says: Feb 17, 2012 8:42 PM

    granadafan says: How ironic that another arrogant QB from Stanfurd would once again spurn the Colts.

    1. That’s a pretty arrogant statement in and of itself.

    2. Calm down, cupcake- the whole article is speculation. There’s no actual indication whatsoever that Luck doesn’t want to play for the Colts.

    3. There was nothing arrogant about what Elway did. He simply said “no thanks, I’d rather play baseball”. His life, his call.

  67. gacoltfan says: Feb 17, 2012 8:45 PM

    It’s been stated that Elway had other options, and let’s remember the full situation with Manning. San Diego didn’t want Manning, they wanted Rivers all along. They knew the Giants wanted Manning, so they drafted Manning knowing they could still get Rivers but also pick up some extra players from the Giants.

    Luck doesn’t have any of the options (which means much less leverage) that Elway and Eli had.

  68. guestsinger says: Feb 17, 2012 9:50 PM

    Dear Andrew Luck,

    If Jim Irsay and the Colts draft you this April, do not sign with them. Jim Irsay is a stupid dummy and has navigated his team into the playoffs only 12 of the 16 years since he took over the team. I mean c’mon man, just because he has the best winning percentage of any owner during his tenure doesn’t mean he isn’t a stupid dummy.

    In fact, considering many of the posts here from folks I presume are football fans, maybe you should shop your services to some MLB team. I think their fans have a little more on the ball, so to speak.

  69. jgava19 says: Feb 17, 2012 9:57 PM

    Nobody is a sure thing???
    I’m sorry, how does anyone, particularly Irsay, know at this point that Manning is a sure thing with his rehab? There is a chance that he may retire if he doesn’t get all his strength back. He’s not Superman. He just can’t wish himself into his old self. And don’t give me the ” a Peyton at 70% is better than a lot of QBs. That’s total BS. It’s the NFL, the best cover guys in the league. A slightly off Manning will be no better than Gabbert, as an example. Smarten up people.
    Btw. He was paid 26 million last season, not 20. Right from Irsays mouth after their home game vs Texans.

  70. jgava19 says: Feb 17, 2012 10:02 PM

    Luck is coming to Indy. Too bad haters. It’s going to happen. Suck it up and enjoy watching him be a Colt.

  71. tommyf15 says: Feb 17, 2012 10:05 PM

    Dear Guest Singer:

    During that 16 year period, the Colts went 14 – 34 without Peyton Manning.

    Maybe, just maybe, Manning’s on-field ability has more to do with the Colts’ success than anything Irsay has done.

    And like many before you, you’re getting too worked up over the article speculating that Irsay’s antics may be turning Luck off. Fact is, for all we know Luck might LOVE how Irsay has handled the Manning situation and may desperately want to play in Indianapolis as a result.

    Betcha didn’t think of that.

  72. j0esixpack says: Feb 17, 2012 10:38 PM

    Don’t sell Irsay short.

    Seems to me Luck is looking forward to playing for Indy

    Down the road there’s no other organization who would be likely to give him a $90 million contract extension without checking if he’s healthy first.

  73. j0esixpack says: Feb 17, 2012 10:44 PM

    It’s pretty funny to look back now to Irsay’s Twitter feed and what he and Manning said at the time he signed that contract.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2011/07/31/sports/football/manning-agrees-to-90-million-contract-with-colts.html

    “Whether I deserve to be the highest-paid player over the next five years is irrelevant,” Manning told The Star. “I would rather them use that money and keep the players they want to keep and get other players. I told them that.”

    “It’s a credit 2 Peyton,” Irsay wrote on Twitter. “Put Colt fans, teammates, Ind. ’n’ winning ahead of all.”

  74. jgava19 says: Feb 17, 2012 11:24 PM

    Irsay wanted to pay him 100,000,000

    Manning took 90,000,000….over 5 years

    10% discount to keep players and get FA’s

    Does anyone really get excited over a 10% discount?

  75. mrslay1 says: Feb 18, 2012 12:14 AM

    When 10% is 10 million dollars it enough to get excited. What the H*ll are you talking about. I guess at this point you people think Peyton should have be paying the Colts to play for them!

  76. lennydpocketqb says: Feb 18, 2012 1:15 AM

    Peyton recieved 24 million dollars to watch 3 quarterbacks fill out the Colts dance card to the tune of 2-14. Irsay decided to make sweeping changes. If this works, they will talk about this regime change for decades.

  77. guestsinger says: Feb 18, 2012 8:58 AM

    Dear tommyf15:

    My goofy little letter was a weak jab at the juvenile posts from the Irsay haters. Every day I have to climb in a suit, wrench my jugular too tight with a silk tourniquet, and interact with a bunch of stiff but spineless and politically correct boobs who bore me to death even if I do admire their business sense and a ability to make tough decisions. I find Irsay and his quirkiness to be refreshing and amusing. He takes the edge off of some of these No Fun League aspect of the NFL.

    As for Peyton being the sole reason for the Colts success, I offer a few points: 1 – Irsay gets equal credit for signing Manning to the team. 2 – The idea that Manning would have guided ANY team to similar success is pure, flawed speculation. It can’t be proven either way. 3 – The idea the Colts should have won 4 SB rings with Manning and didn’t because the Colts org sucks is one of the more juvenile views around. Most of the rantings I’ve seen about this assume that the Colts would have hit 95% amazing late round draft picks, or magically been granted an extra 20 million in cap space to surround him with talent. I lot of folks sit in their living rooms speculating like it is fantasy football with magic money (sort of how they vote for congress).

  78. mrslay1 says: Feb 18, 2012 3:00 PM

    I agree with one thing you said, people will be talking about irsay’s move for a long time. That will be because they will remain at the bottom of the league. I don’t think what happens with Manning will change that. The thing is how players view irsay and whether or not they will really play for him, or just take his money.

  79. vikingjedi says: Feb 18, 2012 3:32 PM

    The Colts are going to keep Manning. Irsay said point blank he wants him to stay in Indy and Manning wants to stay there too. They just have to come to an agreement on a new contract because of his injury so that the Colts aren’t screwed if Manning can’t play in the future for some reason.

    Luck will play for the Colts if he agrees to sit on the bench. I don’t see that happening though so he’s probably going to be traded for RG3 (who said he wouldn’t mind sitting on the bench learning from Manning) and a couple of 1st round picks.

  80. mrslay1 says: Feb 18, 2012 5:48 PM

    The only problem with what you say is it suggests that you can believe what irsay says. The fact that this is going on the way it is proves his word is not valid. If irsay was a man he would have keep the whole thing between he and Manning instead of going through all this PR crap. He may be no better than some owners, but he has certainly proved he is not a man to be trusted.

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