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Kamerion Wimbley will be tough call for Raiders

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Raiders linebacker Kamerion Wimbley has been effective for Oakland since the day he arrived from Cleveland. He’s also due $11 million in 2012, a number associated with an elite player.

That presents a conundrum for new Raiders G.M. Reggie McKenzie. Does he see Wimbley as an elite player?

Jason La Canfora of NFL Network reports via a league source that Wimbley, like most NFL players, isn’t interested in a pay cut. It sounds like the Raiders will either have to keep Wimbley at his current salary or release him.

Wimbley’s numbers weren’t overwhelming in 2011. He only had seven sacks last year, and four came against the Chargers’ third-string starter.

We’d argue Wimbley had a better season than the numbers indicated. He consistently pressured the passer and had a boatload of quarterback hurries and hits.

Still, McKenzie said he wanted to get rid of “out of whack” contracts. Wimbley’s true value is somewhere below $11 million.  Cutting cornerback Stanford Routt wasn’t that tough of a decision; he was coming off a poor season.

Wimbley is Oakland’s best pass rusher, so choosing whether to (over)pay him or not will be a much tougher call.

Wimbley’s agent Joe Linta was on PFT Live Friday and talked about Wimbley’s future in addition to Joe Flacco’s next contract. So it makes sense to include that video below.

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53 Responses to “Kamerion Wimbley will be tough call for Raiders”
  1. frostbelt says: Feb 17, 2012 8:29 PM

    Had a great year… but 11 million? I don’t know…

    Maybe 4-5 mil?

  2. emmac13 says: Feb 17, 2012 8:29 PM

    If released Cleveland could use him with the new 4-3. Mangini got rid of him because of his crappy 3-4.

  3. Nikhil Balakumar says: Feb 17, 2012 8:29 PM

    good to see the new GM trying to fix Al Davis’s mistakes.
    with a consistent coaching staff and not over paying this team could go somewhere

  4. essfjay says: Feb 17, 2012 8:36 PM

    it just goes to show how bad things were in Oakland before McZ crazy contracts to players who under performed. i like Kam but he just beat up on terrible OL & when it came to the better comptetion he was a ghost. we need him though we have a weak LB corps as it is. this is a make or break year for McClain as well. i know this will all help the raiders in the future, but re-building sucks for fans..

  5. sportsmeccabi says: Feb 17, 2012 8:42 PM

    Just keep him. Pass rushers dont grow on trees, and he’s a damn good one.

  6. huejackson says: Feb 17, 2012 8:51 PM

    Raiders are releasing him
    11 Mil is way to much for him, There is not a LB in the NFL that should get 11 ml right now..
    It was a poor yea for LBs in general it was a poor year for Defense in the whole NFL this year!
    The 49ers and Giants were the only ones that had a D and I can argue that they are not even that good either they just looked so good compared to all the crap in the NFL..
    Raiders are on the right track I see this team winning the West easily this year.. Broncos are horrible, Chiefs suck and Chargers have Norv Turner as their Head Coach

  7. nucealius says: Feb 17, 2012 8:52 PM

    So many grammatical error. Rosenthal, I know it’s Friday night, but are you drunk already?

  8. jlb10 says: Feb 17, 2012 8:58 PM

    not worth what he is owed this season. that $$ can be spent more wisely

  9. ratbastardshanahandjob says: Feb 17, 2012 9:03 PM

    Capt. Edward John Smith-Titanic, Capt. Max Pruss-the Hindenburg, Capt. Joseph Hazelwood-Exxon Valdez, Capt. Mr Al “Coach” Davis-Raiders. Different Times. Different Ships. Different Captains. Same Result DISASTER!!!

    It’s going to take a while for Mark Davis and Reggie McKenzie to clean up the NFL’s version of Fukushima. But at least now there is hope for us Raider fans. Before there were none. I trust Mckenzie to make the right call on keeping or letting Wimbley go. Going to guess he stays this year. Other players like Huff will get purged like Routt did…..

  10. 1captain1 says: Feb 17, 2012 9:04 PM

    If the Raiders go 8-8 or less they need to can McKenzie

    There is no room for losers.

  11. mikeyfresh25 says: Feb 17, 2012 9:21 PM

    Gibril Wilson, MeAngelo Hall, Stanford Route, Michael Huff (Solid), Wimbley (Solid)… Why do they pay these guys such big contracts then dump then after a year… But they can’t resign Nhamdi?

  12. burghman says: Feb 17, 2012 9:40 PM

    When I saw that pic of Flacco and reference to a video, I was expecting something different entirely. A little chica-chica-boom-boom clip or something. Someone needs to give him a man-groomer….

  13. westcoastraider says: Feb 17, 2012 9:44 PM

    All you cats here complaining about Al and celebrating the coming of McKenzie are not and will never be Real Raiders…

    Part of being a Raider is doing things our way, who cares what everyone else is doing.. And that defines Al Davis and what he did with the Raiders..

    Im Hoping McKenzie has a little bit of that in him and keeps us in the tradition that is Being a Raider!!!

    RaiderNation For Ever!!

  14. souldogdave says: Feb 17, 2012 9:50 PM

    Rosy, this video gave Joe Linda’s ugly picture MINUTES of face-time. Out of the 12:28 clip, it’s about Flacco until 7:26, then Hoyer. Wimbley is mentioned at 8:49 and the subject changes at 9:41. I hoped for more, this video was superfluous to the article.

  15. zerophocus says: Feb 17, 2012 9:56 PM

    @ratbastardshanahandjob

    “Capt. Edward John Smith-Titanic, Capt. Max Pruss-the Hindenburg, Capt. Joseph Hazelwood-Exxon Valdez, Capt. Mr Al “Coach” Davis-Raiders. Different Times. Different Ships. Different Captains. Same Result DISASTER!!!”

    I sort of see where you are coming from, but not really. Also what the hell does the Capt. of the Hindenburg have to do with its destruction? The thing was leaking hydrogen and was either sabotaged, struck by lightning or had built up too much static electricity that ignited. Not really sure how that has anything to do with the captain, its not like he crashed it into a pole.

  16. bjtmeyer says: Feb 17, 2012 10:03 PM

    Joe Flacco aka mouth breather.

  17. lostsok says: Feb 17, 2012 10:04 PM

    The best bet would be an extension that would lower his cap but get him more overall guaranteed money. With virtually nothing but the expected compensatory picks (potentially two 3rds and a 4th is the best guess), Wimbley is simply irreplaceable.

    11 million is too much, but no Wimbley is too little.

  18. phillyphever says: Feb 17, 2012 10:15 PM

    Dear westcoastraider,

    This is 2012, not the 70s-early 80s. That era died along with Al. It’s time for the Raiders to join the 21st century of football and run an organization like it should be running. And if that means blowing it up and starting over, then do it.

  19. phillyphever says: Feb 17, 2012 10:16 PM

    BTW, Wimbley should get cut. $11 million is not worth it to keep someone who’s more of a role player than a superstar. Better off trying to get Mario Williams to come there than keeping him.

  20. 7pints says: Feb 17, 2012 10:45 PM

    @huejackson says such. …Raiders are on the right track I see this team winning the West easily this year.. Broncos are horrible, Chiefs suck and Chargers have Norv Turner as their Head Coach….

    ——————————————————————-

    Just another ghetto, uneducated Jokeland fan. Man, your squad has plenty. I hate to support the Chiefs and Chargers fans out there, but who has been representing the AFC West in the playoffs over the last decade. Jokeland? Hahahaha.

    Oh yeah… and your handle is still a guy who now coaches for the Bengals. Jackass.

    You are almost worse than joetoronto. Idiots.

  21. AlohaMrHand says: Feb 17, 2012 11:05 PM

    Not really that tough,cut him.

  22. eaglessuperfan says: Feb 17, 2012 11:07 PM

    Philadelphia…. In the middle? Or maybe Strongside?

  23. jonesjack says: Feb 17, 2012 11:07 PM

    Raiders have no cap space and no draft picks, which makes the premise of this post stupid. They either offer him a new deal or cut him. No tough call involved.

  24. autumnwind999 says: Feb 17, 2012 11:08 PM

    westcoastraider says:Feb 17, 2012 9:44 PM

    All you cats here complaining about Al and celebrating the coming of McKenzie are not and will never be Real Raiders…

    Part of being a Raider is doing things our way, who cares what everyone else is doing.. And that defines Al Davis and what he did with the Raiders..

    Im Hoping McKenzie has a little bit of that in him and keeps us in the tradition that is Being a Raider!!!

    RaiderNation For Ever!!

    ————————————–

    Amen to this.

    What’s up with you all fawning over McKenzie? Basically, the guy :

    – Fired the best coach we’ve had in a long time.
    – Severely downgraded our offensive coaching staff by getting rid of Hue and Wylie and reducing Saunders’ role.
    – Released our best, albeit overpaid, cornerback.
    – Signed a known wifebeater.

    Sorry, and I’m not saying the guy can’t do a decent job despite the shaky start, but let’s not go crazy saying how he’s going to save us from a Hall of Fame owner who got us McFadden, Bush, Reeece, Moore, Ford, Wisniewski, Veldheer, Shaughnessy, Branch and many others within the last few years.

  25. eaglesnoles05 says: Feb 17, 2012 11:28 PM

    N O L E S

  26. bigtganks says: Feb 17, 2012 11:39 PM

    Westcoastraider:

    Perfect example of those who don’t “get it” don’t get that they don’t “get it”.

    Blockbuster Video didn’t want to change what worked before either…

    It’s called adapting. And clearly you see what happened the past 28 years after they haven’t adapted. Lighting in a bottle with and other than that total garbage under clever Al’s direction while the rest of the league laughs and makes fun of us.

  27. whynotusecommonsense says: Feb 17, 2012 11:40 PM

    “Wimbley is Oakland’s best pass rusher, so choosing whether to (over)pay him or not will be a much tougher call.”

    Ah yes, evidence of someone who doesn’t watch or understand the Raiders roster. Should have said that Wimbley WAS Oakland’s best pass rusher…

    Some of us understand that Matt (ShoNasty) Shaunessy will be back from injury next year. Wimbley at $11 million is ridiculous. If he doesn’t restructure he can go try and find someone willing to pay him something even close to that. What he’ll realize is that the team that saved him from Cleveland was the best fit after all.

  28. whynotusecommonsense says: Feb 17, 2012 11:48 PM

    Yo 7pints,

    Who was the last AFC West team to make the Super Bowl? That’s right, Oakland. The Chargers and Chiefs haven’t made noise in the playoffs in over a decade. The Donks have made more noise recently than the other jokes.

    Maybe you should stop posting after 3 pints.

  29. tylerncom says: Feb 18, 2012 12:08 AM

    2 things

    If Oakland plans on being relativley competetive this year they shouldn’t boot too many.

    Flacco/Agent- I can think of at least 10 quarterbacks that should be paid more than Flacco. Some didn’t even make the playoffs this year. Its one thing to be so inconsistant, its another to have a big mouth and talk big and be sooooo inconsistant. You will never win a superbowl chump. You don’t have the testicular fortitude for it. That handlebar stache make you feel like a man, boy?lol

  30. richwaybiomat says: Feb 18, 2012 12:21 AM

    Look, we need stability. Wimbley is a Raider. Keep him. Pay him. Pay him, Seymour and get McClain some help.

  31. richwaybiomat says: Feb 18, 2012 12:22 AM

    Keep Giordano and Shaunessy is back? Prove it. We don’t have time for favortism anymore.

  32. chowface86 says: Feb 18, 2012 12:27 AM

    Somewhere Andrew Walter is laughing.

  33. conjecture101 says: Feb 18, 2012 12:38 AM

    @Nikhil Balakumar

    Just to put things in perspective:

    You comment on blogs

    Al Davis built the best organization in the history of the NFL

  34. dawsonleery says: Feb 18, 2012 12:40 AM

    I think Wimbley is a nice player to have but at 11 million? come on, man… He is good as gone. Not to mention it looks like Raiders will be using some 3-4 and Wimbley was not at his best playing in that defense.

  35. babyhorsemorgan says: Feb 18, 2012 12:45 AM

    Joe Linta needs to speak to Flacco about his severe, unsightly, nasal drip. It’s killing his off field income opportunities.

  36. conjecture101 says: Feb 18, 2012 12:55 AM

    @WestCoastRaider

    you’re so right. I’ve been trying to tell people this, but the fake ones refuse to listen.

    @BigTGangks

    your comment proves why you will never get it. Blockbuster video was strictly about making money. There weren’t 29 other video franchises competing in a league of video stores.

    The Raiders were about something far more significant than money. They were a cultural idea that united millions of people, and changed the perception of sports. Whatever Reggie Mckenzie does will have no effect on what the shield will forever represent.

    His insignificance will reveal itself in 100 years when his cookie cutter, mundane teams aren’t remembered at all, irregardless of record.

  37. humboldt420 says: Feb 18, 2012 1:06 AM

    autumnwind999 says:

    What’s up with you all fawning over McKenzie? Basically, the guy :

    – Fired the best coach we’ve had in a long time.

    I’m a Raider fan and all but what?

    Is this the same “best coach we’ve had in a long time” that had to settle for a special teams/defensive backs coach with the Bengals?

    Really?

    Hue was creative and his offense was fun to watch, but best coach?

    If he really was great as you point out, Hue Jackson would have landed an offensive coordinator job the moment he was canned by Oakland.

    Now, he’s relegated to coaching defense and special teams, something he has never done in his coaching career.

  38. mistersmith22 says: Feb 18, 2012 3:06 AM

    huejackson says:
    Feb 17, 2012 8:51 PM
    Raiders are releasing him
    11 Mil is way to much for him, There is not a LB in the NFL that should get 11 ml right now..
    It was a poor yea for LBs in general it was a poor year for Defense in the whole NFL this year!

    ———————

    Ask me how I know you never watched any Niners games this year. Patrick Willis is the best linebacker alive. Not since Ray Lewis (10 years ago!) has anyone played like him. I don’t mean the basically-defensive-end guys like Suggs and Ware that get the spotlight, I mean, REAL defensive LB play. And I’m a Ravens homer! P-Wil is the shiat.

  39. tatum064 says: Feb 18, 2012 4:30 AM

    7pints says:
    Feb 17, 2012 10:45 PM
    @huejackson says such. …Raiders are on the right track I see this team winning the West easily this year.. Broncos are horrible, Chiefs suck and Chargers have Norv Turner as their Head Coach….

    ——————————————————————-

    Just another ghetto, uneducated Jokeland fan. Man, your squad has plenty. I hate to support the Chiefs and Chargers fans out there, but who has been representing the AFC West in the playoffs over the last decade. Jokeland? Hahahaha.

    Oh yeah… and your handle is still a guy who now coaches for the Bengals. Jackass.

    You are almost worse than joetoronto. Idiots.

    =====================

    uh have your teams even been in a Super Bowl THIS DECADE?

    WTF did the Bengals do when they got to the playoffs…all they did was

    A. lose to the Niners twice the SB
    B. end Bo Jackson’s career
    C. have a WR die falling out of a truck

  40. tatum064 says: Feb 18, 2012 4:35 AM

    What’s up with you all fawning over McKenzie? Basically, the guy :

    – Fired the best coach we’ve had in a long time.
    – Severely downgraded our offensive coaching staff by getting rid of Hue and Wylie and reducing Saunders’ role.
    – Released our best, albeit overpaid, cornerback.
    – Signed a known wifebeater.

    he also

    -got rid of the most penalized corner, and obviously not a shut down corner
    -you wont know how its downgraded until the season goes
    -the “best coach” got the same record Cable got, lost his team traded away picks for a QB, then sought even more power..following an absolute GAG job v. the Chargers that would’ve won them the west.
    -Ray Lewis murdered someone (allegedly) , Brandon Underwood is a camp body – he basically just takes Jerome Boyd’s spot on special teams…

  41. ch8878 says: Feb 18, 2012 5:38 AM

    huejackson says: Feb 17, 2012 8:51 PM

    Raiders are releasing him
    11 Mil is way to much for him, There is not a LB in the NFL that should get 11 ml right now..
    It was a poor yea for LBs in general it was a poor year for Defense in the whole NFL this year!
    The 49ers and Giants were the only ones that had a D and I can argue that they are not even that good either they just looked so good compared to all the crap in the NFL..
    Raiders are on the right track I see this team winning the West easily this year.. Broncos are horrible, Chiefs suck and Chargers have Norv Turner as their Head Coach
    ____________________________________

    Really bro the Giants a good D they were Rank 27 that’s not great in my book but lucky for them they played the 31 ranked D in the Super Bowl.

  42. jmclarkent says: Feb 18, 2012 7:10 AM

    Sorry, and I’m not saying the guy can’t do a decent job despite the shaky start, but let’s not go crazy saying how he’s going to save us from a Hall of Fame owner who got us McFadden, Bush, Reeece, Moore, Ford, Wisniewski, Veldheer, Shaughnessy, Branch and many others within the last few years.

    I like those guys, but that is a sad list of “best players”.

  43. ampats says: Feb 18, 2012 7:27 AM

    westcoastraider says,

    Part of being a Raider is doing things our way,who cares what everyone is doing..And that defines Al Davis and being a Raider.

    So are you saying to continue the Raiders motto, Just Lose Baby ???

    Raider Nation? The third world country of the NFL.

  44. boknowsvt says: Feb 18, 2012 8:43 AM

    Amen to this.

    What’s up with you all fawning over McKenzie? Basically, the guy :

    – Fired the best coach we’ve had in a long time.
    – Severely downgraded our offensive coaching staff by getting rid of Hue and Wylie and reducing Saunders’ role.
    – Released our best, albeit overpaid, cornerback.
    – Signed a known wifebeater.

    Sorry, and I’m not saying the guy can’t do a decent job despite the shaky start, but let’s not go crazy saying how he’s going to save us from a Hall of Fame owner who got us McFadden, Bush, Reeece, Moore, Ford, Wisniewski, Veldheer, Shaughnessy, Branch and many others within the last few years.

    *******************************************************

    Hue was toast after his rant following the SD game. Even if it’s justified, you don’t publicly call out your team. Remember the “dumbest team in America” comment? Callahan lost the team for good after that one.
    I liked Wylie a lot, and replacing him was a head scratcher, but Reggie, like any good G.M., is letting his HC pick his owb staff. ZB is the way Allen wants to go, so he went out and got on of the best. Hue was a terrible play-caller and I’m glad he’s done. We don’t have to worry about any triple reverses on the 2 yard line anymore.
    Stanford Routt and his 17 penalties (and those were just the ones the refs caught) had to go. He was just bad.
    The wifebeater will be nothing more than camp fodder.

  45. AlohaMrHand says: Feb 18, 2012 9:20 AM

    the people who post about”being true Raiders” are the ones who must be ok with losing seasons and ridiculous signings and inconsistency.Hue Jackson the best coach we had in a long time?Thats why when he was fired the best work that was offered was as a secondary’s coach.This isn’t 1977 what worked then doesn’t work now,enough with this pride and poise and will to win crap.You might as well use those for those stupid motivation posters they hang up at work hallways.If the Raiders want to start winning again it starts with a housecleaning.Raider fans always want to play scenerios,” oh what if this happened what if that happened”well it didn’t and the Raiders finished the year not any better than the year before.And for the record Tom Cable had the command and respect of the locker room ,Hue didn’t,he was divisive and arrogant AND unproven.So far I like what McKenzie is doing.Trim that fat off a long overweight and lethargic franchise.

  46. lunarpie says: Feb 18, 2012 10:40 AM

    This was his first year with the 4-3 defense in the NFL. Cleveland tried and failed to convert him to the 3-4 defense. Wimbley nowhere near worthly of being paid $11 mil. I commend Reggie McKenzie for getting rid of ‘whacko’ contracts. However, he needs to make every attempt to keep certain players by offering contracts that are comparative to what will be offered by teams that need a 6’4″ 255 lb 4-3 OLB.

  47. steviekthr3e says: Feb 18, 2012 12:18 PM

    McK to Wimbley: please explain why this contract makes sense.

    (silence)

    I hope McK asks to restructure the contract to something he’ll get on the market. Or off with his head..

    I’m on board with the clean house.

    Old time Raider fans need to realize (like others have said), the “Raider way” just isn’t realistic for success at this point. It can still be done- but there has to be an actual foundation to the squad- which there isn’t.

    Keep the heads rolling and get that stink out of the Coliseum…

  48. thetwilightsown says: Feb 18, 2012 1:52 PM

    1captain1 says:
    Feb 17, 2012 9:04 PM
    If the Raiders go 8-8 or less they need to can McKenzie

    There is no room for losers.

    ____________________________

    Always posts from 1captain1 about the Raiders. Yer azz is hanging out, champ.

    To all you “I Heart Al Davis and the Raider Way” old schoolers: As a Raider fan since ’76, I am certainly “real,” so save it.
    I’m always confused by your ridiculous allegiance to a man who actually hated you on many levels. Al Davis moved our team to another city, threatened to move away a second time after crawling back whenever he thought someone else might cut a slice of elusive LA Pie, and consistently brought unnecessary ire from his 31 other partners, adversely effecting this team’s chances of ever winning anything (hence, the Tuck Rule/Snow Job and so forth) while he was still running it. I started watching football when he was great, and (along with any other self respecting Raider fan) suffered through the agony of his stubborn allegiance to all the wrong elements of the Raider Way for his second act. What was once, was no more: no longer the Raider Way, just Al’s Way. Thankfully, that way is gone – but don’t worry, it will live on in infamy and probably overshadow any good and practical decision Reggie makes… unless we win a Super Bowl again.

    Owners own. Owners hire managers. Managers hire coaches. Coaches coach players. The players play and by default, become extensions owners. For 20 years Raiders players echoed the maverick persona of the old Al Davis, and for the last 20 years they’ve echoed the shadow of that man. Desperate, panicked and totally out of their depth.
    Here’s a question: What’s longer? Two decades of winning and trophies or two decades of losing, dysfunction, embarrassment, repetition vs. correction and stubbornness?

    It’s over. Can you say “we had a great run” when you can barely remember it anymore? The challenges of being champions in the future are NOTHING compared to trying to be champions in the future by methods of the past.

  49. conjecture101 says: Feb 18, 2012 1:56 PM

    WestCoastRaider is absolutely right.

    These fake Raider fans are willing to sell their soul for at best; a bunch of first round playoff exits in a dying, unwatchable NFL.

    The Raiders represented something much greater than a football team, and Mckenzie is doing his best to destroy decades of work, in favor of a cookie cutter regime that represents the power structure in which the raiders are supposed to oppose.

  50. ron69 says: Feb 18, 2012 2:56 PM

    Yes, let’s get rid of the little talent we have on defense, he might be overpaid but if he is cut then we’ll be officially in the rebulding mode and in the race for next year’s first overall pick.
    Let’s remember he plays 30-35% as DE, playing full time there could get a boost in his production, just saying.

  51. trubroncfan07 says: Feb 18, 2012 5:14 PM

    Raiders are old with a maxed out cap and no draft picks. Good luck with that next year.

  52. westcoastraider says: Feb 18, 2012 6:01 PM

    Ha, those of you trying to kick knowledge about “getting with the times” like 2012 football is anything to brag about, do you see any Raider players holding out for bigger contracts, or criticizing their teammates, coaches, fans in public? No… Cause Al took care of his people and the Raider way is to handle everything in house..

    It’s funny how everyone claims to hate the raiders, or how were a joke franchise, But yet everytime there’s a post about us, cats go out of their way to post something about us… Guess that tells you everything you need to know!!

    To everyone else that had my back, preciate the love.. Us true Raiders gotta stick together!!

  53. raiderapologist says: Feb 19, 2012 1:12 PM

    nucealius says: Feb 17, 2012 8:52 PM

    So many grammatical error. Rosenthal, I know it’s Friday night, but are you drunk already?

    “So many grammatical error”? Nice!
    —————

    trubroncfan07 says: Feb 18, 2012 5:14 PM

    Raiders are old with a maxed out cap and no draft picks. Good luck with that next year.

    Old? You’re correct on the draft picks, but the team is far from old, and cap space is always manageable.

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