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	<title>Comments on: &#8220;Preliminary agreement&#8221; reached on new Vikings stadium</title>
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		<title>By: bluedogrunning</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/02/17/preliminary-agreement-reached-on-new-vikings-stadium/#comment-1585724</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Feb 2012 18:09:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thank you eeedlef. The proper way to finance a stadium is via the team owner, and if that is not enough, via Personal Seat Licenses paid for by the people who attend the games. I realize that some government involvement is necessary.  For example, the local government might have to pay for some of the new road infrastructure to accommodate traffic. Personally, I am surprised that the people of Minneapolis and greater Minnesota would permit this. It would not fly in many areas of the country; the team would be laughed out of town.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you eeedlef. The proper way to finance a stadium is via the team owner, and if that is not enough, via Personal Seat Licenses paid for by the people who attend the games. I realize that some government involvement is necessary.  For example, the local government might have to pay for some of the new road infrastructure to accommodate traffic. Personally, I am surprised that the people of Minneapolis and greater Minnesota would permit this. It would not fly in many areas of the country; the team would be laughed out of town.</p>
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		<title>By: eeedlef</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Feb 2012 17:47:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Also, myopinionisrighterthanyours says:

I live in Indianapolis, and the city as a whole made very little, if anything significant. The revenue lost because the NFL paid no taxes on anything they sold or leased, and increased police cost, and costs to the CIB mean we were lucky to break even. Stop perpetuating lies about how fantastic the Super Bowl is economically for the host city. If it was, wouldn&#039;t Miami be Shangri-la right now?

http://www.indystar.com/article/20120212/NEWS11/202120361/City-s-Super-Bowl-spending

http://www.indystar.com/article/20120211/NEWS11/302120003/Super-Bowl-2012-Most-outlying-areas-didn-t-see-spending-splash

http://money.msn.com/taxes/news.aspx?feed=BLOOM&amp;date=20120202&amp;id=14751265

http://www.ibj.com/cib-expects-to-lose-money-during-super-bowl/PARAMS/article/31969]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also, myopinionisrighterthanyours says:</p>
<p>I live in Indianapolis, and the city as a whole made very little, if anything significant. The revenue lost because the NFL paid no taxes on anything they sold or leased, and increased police cost, and costs to the CIB mean we were lucky to break even. Stop perpetuating lies about how fantastic the Super Bowl is economically for the host city. If it was, wouldn&#8217;t Miami be Shangri-la right now?</p>
<p><a href="http://www.indystar.com/article/20120212/NEWS11/202120361/City-s-Super-Bowl-spending" rel="nofollow">http://www.indystar.com/article/20120212/NEWS11/202120361/City-s-Super-Bowl-spending</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.indystar.com/article/20120211/NEWS11/302120003/Super-Bowl-2012-Most-outlying-areas-didn-t-see-spending-splash" rel="nofollow">http://www.indystar.com/article/20120211/NEWS11/302120003/Super-Bowl-2012-Most-outlying-areas-didn-t-see-spending-splash</a></p>
<p><a href="http://money.msn.com/taxes/news.aspx?feed=BLOOM&#038;date=20120202&#038;id=14751265" rel="nofollow">http://money.msn.com/taxes/news.aspx?feed=BLOOM&#038;date=20120202&#038;id=14751265</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.ibj.com/cib-expects-to-lose-money-during-super-bowl/PARAMS/article/31969" rel="nofollow">http://www.ibj.com/cib-expects-to-lose-money-during-super-bowl/PARAMS/article/31969</a></p>
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		<title>By: eeedlef</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/02/17/preliminary-agreement-reached-on-new-vikings-stadium/#comment-1585678</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Feb 2012 17:33:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[For everyone voting down the comments criticizing the use of taxpayer money because the stadium will bring money to the city/state:

http://www.sabernomics.com/sabernomics/index.php/2008/05/sports-stadiums-and-economic-development-a-summary-of-the-economics-literature/
&quot;There is little evidence of large increases in income or employment associated with the introduction of professional sports or the construction of new stadiums.&quot;

http://news.illinois.edu/news/04/1117stadiums.html
&quot;Our conclusion, and that of nearly all academic economists studying this issue, is that professional sports generally have little, if any, positive effect on a city&#039;s economy,&quot; Humphreys and Coates wrote in a report issued last month by the Cato Institute in Washington, D.C.&quot;

http://www.cppa.utah.edu/publications/finance_tax/Sports_Stadiums.pdf
&quot;...independent work on the economic impact of stadiums and arenas has uniformly found that there is no statistically significant positive correlation between sports facility construction and economic development.&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For everyone voting down the comments criticizing the use of taxpayer money because the stadium will bring money to the city/state:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.sabernomics.com/sabernomics/index.php/2008/05/sports-stadiums-and-economic-development-a-summary-of-the-economics-literature/" rel="nofollow">http://www.sabernomics.com/sabernomics/index.php/2008/05/sports-stadiums-and-economic-development-a-summary-of-the-economics-literature/</a><br />
&#8220;There is little evidence of large increases in income or employment associated with the introduction of professional sports or the construction of new stadiums.&#8221;</p>
<p><a href="http://news.illinois.edu/news/04/1117stadiums.html" rel="nofollow">http://news.illinois.edu/news/04/1117stadiums.html</a><br />
&#8220;Our conclusion, and that of nearly all academic economists studying this issue, is that professional sports generally have little, if any, positive effect on a city&#8217;s economy,&#8221; Humphreys and Coates wrote in a report issued last month by the Cato Institute in Washington, D.C.&#8221;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.cppa.utah.edu/publications/finance_tax/Sports_Stadiums.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.cppa.utah.edu/publications/finance_tax/Sports_Stadiums.pdf</a><br />
&#8220;&#8230;independent work on the economic impact of stadiums and arenas has uniformly found that there is no statistically significant positive correlation between sports facility construction and economic development.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: kghannigan</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Feb 2012 00:17:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[$427 million? Now the $200 million my 9ers got is feeling like chump change! Jipped! Wtf NFL? Well, at least Vikings fans can stop griping at us now.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>$427 million? Now the $200 million my 9ers got is feeling like chump change! Jipped! Wtf NFL? Well, at least Vikings fans can stop griping at us now.</p>
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		<title>By: myopinionisrighterthanyours</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Feb 2012 22:53:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@vetdata:

The problem with your study is again, it is only looking at the sport revenue associated purely with the team(s) playing in said stadium.  If that&#039;s ONLY what you are looking at, OF COURSE you have a negative effect, especially since most of your draw is people who live within 30 minutes travel of the venue (although they will spend money on other things both benefiting the local team/venue and restaurants/grocery stores for pre and post game activities like tailgating).  It&#039;s the auxiliary events that are going to be the source of your income and local economic stimulation.  Again, ask Indy how much impact the recent Super Bowl had there, and again check to see where your local Hoteliers and the like stand on the issue.  That should tell you everything you need to know.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@vetdata:</p>
<p>The problem with your study is again, it is only looking at the sport revenue associated purely with the team(s) playing in said stadium.  If that&#8217;s ONLY what you are looking at, OF COURSE you have a negative effect, especially since most of your draw is people who live within 30 minutes travel of the venue (although they will spend money on other things both benefiting the local team/venue and restaurants/grocery stores for pre and post game activities like tailgating).  It&#8217;s the auxiliary events that are going to be the source of your income and local economic stimulation.  Again, ask Indy how much impact the recent Super Bowl had there, and again check to see where your local Hoteliers and the like stand on the issue.  That should tell you everything you need to know.</p>
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		<title>By: stavreafavre</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Feb 2012 20:49:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[A billion dollar stadium for a two-bit team. Yeah, that sounds about right.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A billion dollar stadium for a two-bit team. Yeah, that sounds about right.</p>
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		<title>By: bigjim50010</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Feb 2012 18:58:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[so its 750 mil for  the new stadium.... i missed the cost for the high speed rail system to bring former packer players to mpls.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>so its 750 mil for  the new stadium&#8230;. i missed the cost for the high speed rail system to bring former packer players to mpls.</p>
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		<title>By: wadi79</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/02/17/preliminary-agreement-reached-on-new-vikings-stadium/#comment-1583932</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Feb 2012 18:25:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[As a long time Cleveland Browns fan, I remember attending the last game and watching the city die when Modell moved the team.  It was a sad sad time.  As a current resident of Minneapolis, I am happy that the Vikes and the State are or will reach a deal.  There is a rich tradition with this franchise and leaving the state would have been devastating.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a long time Cleveland Browns fan, I remember attending the last game and watching the city die when Modell moved the team.  It was a sad sad time.  As a current resident of Minneapolis, I am happy that the Vikes and the State are or will reach a deal.  There is a rich tradition with this franchise and leaving the state would have been devastating.</p>
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		<title>By: tdstevie</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Feb 2012 17:48:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[As a Green Bay resident and diehard packer fan, I hope the bike stay...i would miss their fans coming to lambeau and talking smack before the game and us laughing at them after the game...would definitely miss the rivalry if they left...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a Green Bay resident and diehard packer fan, I hope the bike stay&#8230;i would miss their fans coming to lambeau and talking smack before the game and us laughing at them after the game&#8230;would definitely miss the rivalry if they left&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: txbearmeat</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[txbearmeat]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Feb 2012 17:30:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[gergie1957 says: Feb 18, 2012 1:24 AM

“txbearmeat says:
Feb 17, 2012 9:29 PM
Please let the Purple Hornies go down to LA. It would finally shut their stupid fans up. I hate that team. I hate their fans.”

txbear, this has nothing to do with your hate, this has everything to do with your fear.
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Uh, no I don&#039;t fear a 4-12 team with a terrible HC, the worst secondary in the history of the NFL...
I could go on, but I don&#039;t need to.  

The Vikes are awful.  They&#039;ve never won a single title in the history of their franchise.  The organization is a dysfunctional, corporate mess.  Their history of player behavior is, um.....  despicable.  

And yet, their fans suffer from repeated delusions of grandeur and a sense of Packer envy apparent to anyone with two good eyes.  They are obnoxious, mouth breathing tools.  I want to see that franchise move for that reason above all else.  

M/SP has always been a Twinkies town, and it always will be.  If the Vikes left town, within 10 years Minny would be Packerland again.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>gergie1957 says: Feb 18, 2012 1:24 AM</p>
<p>“txbearmeat says:<br />
Feb 17, 2012 9:29 PM<br />
Please let the Purple Hornies go down to LA. It would finally shut their stupid fans up. I hate that team. I hate their fans.”</p>
<p>txbear, this has nothing to do with your hate, this has everything to do with your fear.<br />
&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;</p>
<p>Uh, no I don&#8217;t fear a 4-12 team with a terrible HC, the worst secondary in the history of the NFL&#8230;<br />
I could go on, but I don&#8217;t need to.  </p>
<p>The Vikes are awful.  They&#8217;ve never won a single title in the history of their franchise.  The organization is a dysfunctional, corporate mess.  Their history of player behavior is, um&#8230;..  despicable.  </p>
<p>And yet, their fans suffer from repeated delusions of grandeur and a sense of Packer envy apparent to anyone with two good eyes.  They are obnoxious, mouth breathing tools.  I want to see that franchise move for that reason above all else.  </p>
<p>M/SP has always been a Twinkies town, and it always will be.  If the Vikes left town, within 10 years Minny would be Packerland again.</p>
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		<title>By: neilpountney</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Feb 2012 17:26:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I have no dog in this fight and generally speaking I am against the the use of public money for private enterprises. But, please let us not pretend it does not happen everywhere.  States are endlessly cutting private businesses tax breaks in all manner of ways.

I don&#039;t know if it is financially worthwhile for the taxpayers of Minnesota or not but sometimes the the sum is greater than all the parts. I am happy for Vikings fans this has been one long drawn out charade in which politicians both for and against have a lot to answer for.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have no dog in this fight and generally speaking I am against the the use of public money for private enterprises. But, please let us not pretend it does not happen everywhere.  States are endlessly cutting private businesses tax breaks in all manner of ways.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know if it is financially worthwhile for the taxpayers of Minnesota or not but sometimes the the sum is greater than all the parts. I am happy for Vikings fans this has been one long drawn out charade in which politicians both for and against have a lot to answer for.</p>
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		<title>By: stellarperformance</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Feb 2012 16:35:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[mrvikingsfan11 says: 
Feb 18, 2012 11:09 AM 
......true Packers fans want us to stay just like us true Vikings fans would never ever want the Packers to leave, it’s a love/hate relationship, so those true fans of both teams please stand up to help keep the Vikings in MN Thank you.
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I don&#039;t want the Vikings to leave. Both teams fight to the end when they play each other, whether one team has more talent than the other, or not. 

But please....when the stadium finally gets built, don&#039;t start up with how superior your stadium is than anyone else&#039;s. Please. Minneapolis is already inhabited by persons with the worst superiority complexes as it is....don&#039;t confirm it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>mrvikingsfan11 says:<br />
Feb 18, 2012 11:09 AM<br />
&#8230;&#8230;true Packers fans want us to stay just like us true Vikings fans would never ever want the Packers to leave, it’s a love/hate relationship, so those true fans of both teams please stand up to help keep the Vikings in MN Thank you.<br />
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<p>I don&#8217;t want the Vikings to leave. Both teams fight to the end when they play each other, whether one team has more talent than the other, or not. </p>
<p>But please&#8230;.when the stadium finally gets built, don&#8217;t start up with how superior your stadium is than anyone else&#8217;s. Please. Minneapolis is already inhabited by persons with the worst superiority complexes as it is&#8230;.don&#8217;t confirm it.</p>
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		<title>By: mrvikingsfan11</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Feb 2012 16:09:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thevikes85 is 100% correct, true Packers fans want us to stay just like us true Vikings fans would never ever want the Packers to leave, it&#039;s a love/hate relationship, so those true fans of both teams please stand up to help keep the Vikings in MN Thank you.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thevikes85 is 100% correct, true Packers fans want us to stay just like us true Vikings fans would never ever want the Packers to leave, it&#8217;s a love/hate relationship, so those true fans of both teams please stand up to help keep the Vikings in MN Thank you.</p>
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		<title>By: tdk24</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[tdk24]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Feb 2012 15:36:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You&#039;d think in this day and age we would know how to build stadiums that would last hundreds of years.  Not ones that need to be replaced after 20-30 years.  I guess the Romans were smarter than we are today.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;d think in this day and age we would know how to build stadiums that would last hundreds of years.  Not ones that need to be replaced after 20-30 years.  I guess the Romans were smarter than we are today.</p>
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		<title>By: randleguy</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Feb 2012 15:29:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Why should tax payers pay for a stadium? why should tax payers for public welfare programs. I did vote for those. Not supporting a business is a loss of state tax revenue collections. It is not only football the game we are supporting, but also football the business. Other business get tax reductions and the such from the Stae to keep them here to employe people and pay Taxes and create dollars for everyone in the state. What would you say if this was a plan to help out 3-M or Honeywell. Loss of an employer, is a loss of an employer. That is what the Minnesota Vikings are a EMPLOYER!!!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why should tax payers pay for a stadium? why should tax payers for public welfare programs. I did vote for those. Not supporting a business is a loss of state tax revenue collections. It is not only football the game we are supporting, but also football the business. Other business get tax reductions and the such from the Stae to keep them here to employe people and pay Taxes and create dollars for everyone in the state. What would you say if this was a plan to help out 3-M or Honeywell. Loss of an employer, is a loss of an employer. That is what the Minnesota Vikings are a EMPLOYER!!!</p>
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		<title>By: vetdana</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Feb 2012 15:25:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Very interesting study that does not support public investment in stadiums as per returns on investment !...Read !
The Economics of Sports Facilities and
Their Communities
John Siegfried and Andrew Zimbalist

Journal of Economic Perspectives—Volume 14, Number 3—Summer 2000 —Pages 95–114

Time series studies conﬁrm the cross-section results. Baade and Sanderson
(1997), for example, found no perceptible net increase in economic activity or
employment in 10 cities that acquired new sports teams between 1958 and 1993
after factoring out other economic trends affecting each area. They did observe a
reordering of leisure expenditures within the cities that acquired new teams, but
there was no evidence that the new sports teams brought output or employment
growth to the local area. A more recent study, by Coates and Humphreys (1999),
ﬁnds that new stadiums and sports teams actually reduce per capita income in the
host communities. This result is consistent with a higher (negative) multiplier for
the displaced leisure expenditures than for the expenditures on a new team or in
a new stadium because the latter likely involve substantial leakages from the local
economy to the remote residential locations of some players and team owners.
The conclusion that sports teams and facilities do not stimulate economic]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very interesting study that does not support public investment in stadiums as per returns on investment !&#8230;Read !<br />
The Economics of Sports Facilities and<br />
Their Communities<br />
John Siegfried and Andrew Zimbalist</p>
<p>Journal of Economic Perspectives—Volume 14, Number 3—Summer 2000 —Pages 95–114</p>
<p>Time series studies conﬁrm the cross-section results. Baade and Sanderson<br />
(1997), for example, found no perceptible net increase in economic activity or<br />
employment in 10 cities that acquired new sports teams between 1958 and 1993<br />
after factoring out other economic trends affecting each area. They did observe a<br />
reordering of leisure expenditures within the cities that acquired new teams, but<br />
there was no evidence that the new sports teams brought output or employment<br />
growth to the local area. A more recent study, by Coates and Humphreys (1999),<br />
ﬁnds that new stadiums and sports teams actually reduce per capita income in the<br />
host communities. This result is consistent with a higher (negative) multiplier for<br />
the displaced leisure expenditures than for the expenditures on a new team or in<br />
a new stadium because the latter likely involve substantial leakages from the local<br />
economy to the remote residential locations of some players and team owners.<br />
The conclusion that sports teams and facilities do not stimulate economic</p>
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		<title>By: das14</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Feb 2012 14:43:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[What the heck? People are going to think we are a major city behaving like this. What PROGRESS? Something is afoot.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What the heck? People are going to think we are a major city behaving like this. What PROGRESS? Something is afoot.</p>
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		<title>By: AlohaMrHand</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/02/17/preliminary-agreement-reached-on-new-vikings-stadium/#comment-1583729</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[AlohaMrHand]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Feb 2012 14:35:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[^427 million?Hellooooooooooooo higher ticket prices.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>^427 million?Hellooooooooooooo higher ticket prices.</p>
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		<title>By: AlohaMrHand</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/02/17/preliminary-agreement-reached-on-new-vikings-stadium/#comment-1583728</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[AlohaMrHand]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Feb 2012 14:33:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[maybe I missed it but how much are the Vikings kicking in to lose,I mean play in this new stadium?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>maybe I missed it but how much are the Vikings kicking in to lose,I mean play in this new stadium?</p>
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		<title>By: jenniferxxx</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[jenniferxxx]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Feb 2012 13:33:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[So in the end the taxpayers foot the bill ... and they don&#039;t have any share in the team.

Wow ... hey Minnesota, will you buy me a football team?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So in the end the taxpayers foot the bill &#8230; and they don&#8217;t have any share in the team.</p>
<p>Wow &#8230; hey Minnesota, will you buy me a football team?</p>
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		<title>By: mattolikesthevikes</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/02/17/preliminary-agreement-reached-on-new-vikings-stadium/#comment-1583692</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Feb 2012 13:04:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[dtrb10 says:
Feb 17, 2012 6:57 PM
Hallaulja!!!!!!!!! Haha all the Packer fans in MN are going to help pay for it HAHAHAHA!!! I freaking love it!!!! Listen to Contra bitchin!!! I love it
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Bitchin about what?

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Ah, bitchin about the reason stated above.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>dtrb10 says:<br />
Feb 17, 2012 6:57 PM<br />
Hallaulja!!!!!!!!! Haha all the Packer fans in MN are going to help pay for it HAHAHAHA!!! I freaking love it!!!! Listen to Contra bitchin!!! I love it<br />
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Bitchin about what?</p>
<p>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;</p>
<p>Ah, bitchin about the reason stated above.</p>
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		<title>By: bobgb2000</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/02/17/preliminary-agreement-reached-on-new-vikings-stadium/#comment-1583676</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[bobgb2000]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Feb 2012 12:19:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Congrats on a new stadium Viquees fans. It may look pretty on the outside BUT it&#039;s still the QUEENS in the inside. And you saved a bunch of money not having to build a trophy room.hahahahaha]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Congrats on a new stadium Viquees fans. It may look pretty on the outside BUT it&#8217;s still the QUEENS in the inside. And you saved a bunch of money not having to build a trophy room.hahahahaha</p>
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		<title>By: myopinionisrighterthanyours</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/02/17/preliminary-agreement-reached-on-new-vikings-stadium/#comment-1583648</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[myopinionisrighterthanyours]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Feb 2012 07:25:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I love the debate going on between all these internet Economics majors on the affect of a stadium versus revenue and whatnot.  People on the side of the argument against always forget about non-tangible dollars.  As someone pointed out, it&#039;s not the NFL that will be the big source of revenue (unless you host a Super Bowl, which 1 would almost cover the whole shebang, if you can get it).  It&#039;s the Final Fours, concerts, etc., etc.  And it&#039;s not just tangible stadium revenue.  Ask the local Hotel, Restaurant, and Lodging Association whether they want a stadium or not, especially if they are close to said stadium.  There&#039;s a lot of outside dollars pouring in when you have these events.  P.S., Mike.  Love the chicken before the egg pic.  Surprised no one has commented on it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love the debate going on between all these internet Economics majors on the affect of a stadium versus revenue and whatnot.  People on the side of the argument against always forget about non-tangible dollars.  As someone pointed out, it&#8217;s not the NFL that will be the big source of revenue (unless you host a Super Bowl, which 1 would almost cover the whole shebang, if you can get it).  It&#8217;s the Final Fours, concerts, etc., etc.  And it&#8217;s not just tangible stadium revenue.  Ask the local Hotel, Restaurant, and Lodging Association whether they want a stadium or not, especially if they are close to said stadium.  There&#8217;s a lot of outside dollars pouring in when you have these events.  P.S., Mike.  Love the chicken before the egg pic.  Surprised no one has commented on it.</p>
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		<title>By: gergie1957</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/02/17/preliminary-agreement-reached-on-new-vikings-stadium/#comment-1583633</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[gergie1957]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Feb 2012 06:24:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;txbearmeat says:
Feb 17, 2012 9:29 PM
Please let the Purple Hornies go down to LA. It would finally shut their stupid fans up. I hate that team. I hate their fans.&quot;

 txbear, this has nothing to do with your hate, this has everything to do with your fear.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;txbearmeat says:<br />
Feb 17, 2012 9:29 PM<br />
Please let the Purple Hornies go down to LA. It would finally shut their stupid fans up. I hate that team. I hate their fans.&#8221;</p>
<p> txbear, this has nothing to do with your hate, this has everything to do with your fear.</p>
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		<title>By: th56</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[th56]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Feb 2012 06:21:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[txbearmeat says:
Feb 17, 2012 9:29 PM
Please let the Purple Hornies go down to LA. It would finally shut their stupid fans up. I hate that team. I hate their fans.

 -------------------------------

Wow,  how sad, you must be so empty inside.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>txbearmeat says:<br />
Feb 17, 2012 9:29 PM<br />
Please let the Purple Hornies go down to LA. It would finally shut their stupid fans up. I hate that team. I hate their fans.</p>
<p> &#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;-</p>
<p>Wow,  how sad, you must be so empty inside.</p>
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		<title>By: vikingdoode</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/02/17/preliminary-agreement-reached-on-new-vikings-stadium/#comment-1583625</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[vikingdoode]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Feb 2012 05:52:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[i like the AH location but if its built in Minneapolis, Shakopee Brooklyn Center, Emily, Outing, Remer, Park Rapids Climax, Worthington as long as they stay..... Duluth would be sweet with an open aired stadium...would get f&#039;ing cold and snowy.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i like the AH location but if its built in Minneapolis, Shakopee Brooklyn Center, Emily, Outing, Remer, Park Rapids Climax, Worthington as long as they stay&#8230;.. Duluth would be sweet with an open aired stadium&#8230;would get f&#8217;ing cold and snowy.</p>
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		<title>By: staffordsyear</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/02/17/preliminary-agreement-reached-on-new-vikings-stadium/#comment-1583595</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[staffordsyear]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Feb 2012 04:48:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[When will this just end? at this point i dont care if they stay or go.. just end this please!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When will this just end? at this point i dont care if they stay or go.. just end this please!</p>
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		<title>By: jebdamone</title>
		<link>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/02/17/preliminary-agreement-reached-on-new-vikings-stadium/#comment-1583584</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[jebdamone]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Feb 2012 04:33:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[When the Krafts built the Patriots Stadium 10 years ago it cost approximately $ 400 million…total. It’s a very nice stadium, it was privately financed and the taxpayers didn’t have to pay for it. THAT is the way it SHOULD be. Why are the cost estimates on this Vikings stadium 3 times that and why are the taxpayer get fleecing for 2/3 the cost?
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I will give a hint – would you rather pay gas prices 10 years ago or gas prices today? What was the cost of airfare 10 years ago versus today? Costs go up over time regardless of what it is.
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ten years ago i lived in KY and gas was 89cents a gallon. no joke]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When the Krafts built the Patriots Stadium 10 years ago it cost approximately $ 400 million…total. It’s a very nice stadium, it was privately financed and the taxpayers didn’t have to pay for it. THAT is the way it SHOULD be. Why are the cost estimates on this Vikings stadium 3 times that and why are the taxpayer get fleecing for 2/3 the cost?<br />
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I will give a hint – would you rather pay gas prices 10 years ago or gas prices today? What was the cost of airfare 10 years ago versus today? Costs go up over time regardless of what it is.<br />
&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;</p>
<p>ten years ago i lived in KY and gas was 89cents a gallon. no joke</p>
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		<title>By: claymath52</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[claymath52]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Feb 2012 03:33:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[As a Minneapolis resident I would vote yes to the stadium and my tax participation.  There isn&#039;t anything more fun to do in MPLS than go to the game when the Packers are in town and ruin Vikings fans Sunday in person.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a Minneapolis resident I would vote yes to the stadium and my tax participation.  There isn&#8217;t anything more fun to do in MPLS than go to the game when the Packers are in town and ruin Vikings fans Sunday in person.</p>
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		<title>By: scrapingthefloorioforstorios</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[scrapingthefloorioforstorios]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Feb 2012 03:06:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[hA! awesome how many purple fans are crying about this! how much beyotching would you have done if the team had moved? you were in a situation where you needed a stadium, and your do-nothing passive-aggressive culture prohibited an outcome anyone could appreciate. eat it, and lose for another 50 years!!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hA! awesome how many purple fans are crying about this! how much beyotching would you have done if the team had moved? you were in a situation where you needed a stadium, and your do-nothing passive-aggressive culture prohibited an outcome anyone could appreciate. eat it, and lose for another 50 years!!</p>
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