Comments on: Talks on HGH testing will continue at Scouting Combine

By: johntonioholmes

johntonioholmes — Sun, 19 Feb 2012 17:12:31 +0000

steviemo

Oh definitely. Same with d-line. I was just picking out obvious impact players.

By: steviemo

steviemo — Sun, 19 Feb 2012 15:36:39 +0000

@johntonioholmes: 90% of offensive linemen.

By: FinFan68

FinFan68 — Sun, 19 Feb 2012 13:14:14 +0000

The NFLPA is full of __it. Their stance basically equates to nfl players are naturally above the norm for HGH levels. stupid people actually believe this. They, collectively, are knowingly taking banned substances in order to get an edge. That’s why they refuse the tests they agreed to. It has nothing to do with test validity, protocols or the “natural” body composition of superhuman nfl players.

By: johntonioholmes

johntonioholmes — Sun, 19 Feb 2012 04:17:42 +0000

I’d like to see the players who abused HGH.

My top guesses? Calvin Johnson, Andre Johnson, Brandon Marshall, James Harrison, Clay Matthews.

It’s pretty much impossible to weigh 235 lbs. and run a 4.35/40. James Harrison is WAY too strong (I’m a Steelers fan, by the way). And it’s pretty much impossible to get biceps that look like Clay Matthews’ without steroids or HGH. They aren’t the biggest, but they look like he’s flexing constantly. That’s not normal.

I like and respect all of these players, so please don’t assume that I’m taking cheap shots. Those players just have seemingly unnatural skills or physiques.

I could definitely be wrong. If I am, that’s a tribute to those players’ skills.

Name your top suspects…

By: steviemo

steviemo — Sun, 19 Feb 2012 01:20:12 +0000

Just a few short paragraphs from WADA’s site: “Commonly reported side effects for hGH abuse are: diabetes in prone individuals; worsening of cardiovascular diseases; muscle, joint and bone pain; hypertension and cardiac deficiency; abnormal growth of organs; accelerated osteoarthritis.

In untreated acromegalic individuals (known for pathological over-production of hGH), many of the symptoms described above are observed and life expectancy is known to be significantly reduced.

Because of the role that hGH plays in stimulating IGF-1 secretion, excessive use of hGH may also lead to metabolic dysfunction, including glucose intolerance and other side effects associated with excess levels of IGF-1.”

By: steviemo

steviemo — Sun, 19 Feb 2012 00:26:12 +0000

I like the guy on here who just says over and over again ad nauseum that HGH has no performance benefit and merely helps you recover more quickly. That is complete nonsense and totally contrary to the facts. Beyond that, the reason the league is awash in 320 pound+ linemen now versus 20 years ago is that pretty much every lineman uses the stuff to gain that last 30-40 pounds, and it’s undetectable without a blood test.

Why on earth do you think the NFLPA keeps trying to delay or kill the testing that both parties agreed to in the CBA? Obvious to anyone with a brain.

By: mnsadsportsfan

mnsadsportsfan — Sun, 19 Feb 2012 00:01:12 +0000

I could care less if they are using it in fact i. could care less if they smoke pot snort coke or are on the juice cause at the end of the day ( sunday ) i could care less what happens to them. just sayin

By: bearsstillsuck

bearsstillsuck — Sat, 18 Feb 2012 23:01:50 +0000

I’m surprised these commenters don’t know the side effects of hgh and how severe it can be. That’s why the nfl wants to stop it, so in fifty years players can’t sue saying that the nfl knew the risks, but still let players take it; because you know it’d happen.

By: chaney13

chaney13 — Sat, 18 Feb 2012 21:58:09 +0000

Not saying good or bad. If the NFLPA believes that HGH has positive benefits for the proficiency, health & welfare of the players, than they should come out and make their case publicly, rather than just playing around and avoiding the issue. This would clear up any perception that they, themselves, feel that they may be cheating, or risking potential health issues.

By: cornersss

cornersss — Sat, 18 Feb 2012 21:56:32 +0000

“Seems like the more the NFLPA fights HGH testing, the more it looks like a pretty sognificant number players must be using it”

Very large assumption. Most union in any job will fight drug testing or blood testing of their members. Doesnt have to be football, or a sport for that matter

By: chaney13

chaney13 — Sat, 18 Feb 2012 21:34:09 +0000

Seems like the more the NFLPA fights HGH testing, the more it looks like a pretty sognificant number players must be using it

By: dabigbangclock

dabigbangclock — Sat, 18 Feb 2012 21:28:29 +0000

Can we stop with this please? These guys take a beating week in, week out, isnt it a good thing that they have access to something that will help their bodies recover and help them heal more quickly from injuries? I dont see a downside to HGH use in the NFL… Que the moral police…