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Roethlisberger says he still hasn’t heard from Haley

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Roughly two weeks ago, the Steelers hired Todd Haley to serve as the successor to offensive coordinator Bruce Arians, who had a close friendship with quarterback Ben Roethlisberger.

Haley and Roethlisberger have still not communicated.

On Monday, Roethlisberger told Mark Kaboly of the Pittsburgh Tribune-Review (via NFL.com) that Haley “still hasn’t called me yet.”

It’s a topic that came during on PFT Live, during an interview with Ed Bouchette of the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette.  Bouchette has talked on the record with both Roethlisberger and owner Art Rooney II in recent weeks.

Roethlisberger has been lukewarm at best regarding the hiring of Haley.  Bouchette suggested that Haley may be avoiding the quarterback deliberately; I wondered whether Haley is taking yet another page from his mentor, Bill Parcells, who infamously snubbed Jason Taylor upon arriving in Miami as the V.P. of football operations.

Here’s Bouchette on the Haley-Roethlisberger relationship and the various other challenges confronting the Steelers.

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  1. t16rich says: Feb 20, 2012 6:01 PM

    Cause Charlie Batch is starting dummy

  2. chadmurdigan says: Feb 20, 2012 6:02 PM

    Haley and Big Ben are both immature tools who have the emotional age of about 14, maybe 15 on a very good day.

    Freaking mind games are not going to turn the Steelers around, that’s for sure. Tomlin needs to step in and tell these two clowns to get on the same page and start acting like grown men who give a toot about their profession and team.

    Geesh.

  3. lockoftheweak says: Feb 20, 2012 6:02 PM

    *caption*

    “Hey Peyton, nice forehead.”

  4. sportsmeccabi says: Feb 20, 2012 6:05 PM

    My old high school football coach told me “if I haven’t talked to you, you’re not in the plans”.
    However, I think this has more to do with Todd Haley using this time of year to clear his house of bugs from the KC Chiefs. He hasn’t found any, so he isn’t done.

  5. bikeman99 says: Feb 20, 2012 6:06 PM

    Why doesn’t someone ask Haley? He’s in the building everyday and Ben isn’t.

  6. howmanyringsyourteamgot says: Feb 20, 2012 6:08 PM

    Is there an unwritten rule that Haley has to call Roethlisberger? Its not like he doesn’t know where his office is at the team headquarters. What a drama queen

  7. nineroutsider says: Feb 20, 2012 6:12 PM

    “Bouchette suggested that Haley may be [sic] avoiding the quarterback deliberately; I wondered whether Haley is taking yet another page from his mentor, Bill Parcells.”

    Ben thinks he’s the Steelers everything, he needs to be knocked down a peg or 4. Haley is just crazy enough to do it; everyone else in the building is quick to surrender to him like a helpless freshman trapped in the can.

  8. riverhorsey says: Feb 20, 2012 6:13 PM

    “still hasn’t called me yet”?… how arrogant.

  9. goforthanddie says: Feb 20, 2012 6:20 PM

    Is it in his contract that the OC call him on a regular basis? Does he think himself so important his boss needs to speak to his ego ASAP? Get over yourself.

  10. duanethomas says: Feb 20, 2012 6:21 PM

    If Haley is taking a page out the Parcells book, on how to deal with modern players he will fail. This is 2012 not 1992 or 2002. Its a players league and like it or not Ben is a very good player. How many rings does Haley have?…he

  11. rob0527 says: Feb 20, 2012 6:21 PM

    Why doesn’t Ben go to complex and speak to Haley?

  12. tdk24 says: Feb 20, 2012 6:21 PM

    He didn’t get along with any of his recent Qb’s going back to Warner even. You’re in for a bumpy ride Ben, get used to it.

  13. ravenmaniacisback says: Feb 20, 2012 6:30 PM

    I LOVE IT!!!!!! 7-9……..

  14. pibhighfootballrules says: Feb 20, 2012 6:31 PM

    Cant wait to see how this debacle is gonna turn out..

  15. riverhorsey says: Feb 20, 2012 6:35 PM

    Welcome to earth Ben.

  16. atwatercrushesokoye says: Feb 20, 2012 6:40 PM

    He wants to call him but he’s scared the Chefs would be listening in on the calls stealing all of the information.

  17. jimmysimpson55 says: Feb 20, 2012 6:42 PM

    For all of you anti-Haley idiots, Haley was hired to make Big Ben stop being fat and lazy and complacent. The Rooney’s have signed off on Haley’s tough love approach. No team will ever let it’s QB control the organization again after Peyton Manning ruled the Colts. That dynamic is now history and Big Ben needs to start working hard again.

  18. enx31 says: Feb 20, 2012 6:44 PM

    Haley is your coach. Call him. Big Ben is such a BIG baby.

  19. deadeye says: Feb 20, 2012 6:57 PM

    This is an outrage! The fact that Haley hasn’t caled Big Ben is clearly a sign of disrespect, and it’s going to cause irreparable harm to the Steelers for the forseeable future.

    In all honesty, when a new OC is hired and a two-time SB winning franchise QB is already on the roster, that new coordinator OWES a courtesy call to the established veteran. Anything less is an insult.

    Ben needs to get the Rooneys invovled to help clear the air.

  20. trollaikman8 says: Feb 20, 2012 7:00 PM

    Gettin my popcorn ready.

    Big Ben needs a rude awakening and the organization deliberately brought in a passive aggressive narcissist in Haley.

    The Steelers organization is always a step ahead, i gotta give them real credit. They will win 10 games with or without Ben, Mendenhall, Harrison and an o-line of castoffs, minus Pouncey.

    Ben better start losing weight real quick.

  21. yelix says: Feb 20, 2012 7:05 PM

    Ben is being a drama queen. Whether you like Haley or not, he is capable of whipping that offense into shape. With a QB like Ben and receivers like Wallace and Brown, they shouldn’t barely squeak by bad teams and depend on their defense every week. They would have won in Denver if they had opened the game with two touchdowns instead of two field goals.

  22. nannymcsack says: Feb 20, 2012 7:07 PM

    todd hayley hasn’t even reached the midway point to his offseason binge yet

  23. halftermguv says: Feb 20, 2012 7:10 PM

    Haley should have called him within a day or two of being hired; it’s common courtesy. Winning in the NFL is hard enough without creating extra barriers.

  24. johnteedee says: Feb 20, 2012 7:11 PM

    Rothlesberger wainting on Haley to call him??????? I guess Ben does not know how to dial a phone!!!!!!!!

  25. bigbluenationdb says: Feb 20, 2012 7:12 PM

    Big Ben is a Hall of Fame qb according to all the experts and steelers fans out there. I personally think he is the most overrated qb in football. He stumbles around for three quarters and because the steelers have a great defense is able to put together one drive in the 4th quarter and win a game. He should be training a little harder so he doesn’t look like a fat out of shape qb. He is the sloppiest looking qb in the NFL.

  26. mmmpierogi says: Feb 20, 2012 7:19 PM

    If training camp rolls around and Haley hasn’t talked with Roethlisberger, that’ll be weird. Until then, non-issue — there are bigger things to worry about (e.g., free agency/salary cap/contractual matters, the draft).

  27. johnnycamparm says: Feb 20, 2012 7:48 PM

    Big deal, peyton manning never had any contact with his offensive coordinators his entire career…

  28. cannonballdookie says: Feb 20, 2012 8:09 PM

    Ben has two Super Bowl rings, I think he’s earned the right to have the coaching staff shoot him straight. Enough with the games and BS, all parties need to wake up and prepare for next season.

  29. steelcurtainn says: Feb 20, 2012 8:21 PM

    I see the haters are out in full force again. Big Ben and the steelers will be enjoying more superbowl wins in the future. Get used to it!!!

  30. steel2372 says: Feb 20, 2012 8:25 PM

    I agree with Cannon I feel Big Ben has earned the right to have coaching staff contact him out of courtesy. I think also though they will be fine because neither haley nor ben runs the team The Rooney’s do. In the end, The Steelers will be enjoying more super bowls ! Go Steelers!!!

  31. jbaxt says: Feb 20, 2012 8:33 PM

    Todd will get the best out of Ben. You can put the Chiefs downward spiral on Pioli. It wasn’t Todd’s job to have a decent backup qb, Rb, or S. oh, and being 37 million under the cap. It’s amazing what money can actually get you.

  32. tdtheoracle says: Feb 20, 2012 8:35 PM

    Haley is just worried someone has tapped his phone again.

  33. leftcoastnative says: Feb 20, 2012 8:40 PM

    If Haley follows the Parcells plan of how to treat players he is headed for disaster and is a nimrod, and I don’t use that word in the Biblical sense.

  34. babyhorsemorgan says: Feb 20, 2012 8:59 PM

    Todd hasn’t been able to figure out how to spell Ben’s last name yet, to search directory assistance for the number. “What the hell is with all these extra vowels?”.

  35. righthereisay says: Feb 20, 2012 9:07 PM

    If they haven’t talked yet, either:
    1. They are both children
    2. The Steelers are going to trade Roethlisberger

  36. jgo304 says: Feb 20, 2012 9:14 PM

    Its almost as if the Rooney’s are setting this season up for total failure. Personally I think they want to rid the organization of PigBen once and for all.

    Sorry Stiller fans, doesn’t look like 7 is happening anytime soon. Couldn’t happen to a classier bunch lol

  37. steelerdynasty2010 says: Feb 20, 2012 9:24 PM

    @bigbluenationdb:
    you know he’s played since his rookie year right?

  38. hsbox27 says: Feb 20, 2012 9:24 PM

    The Steelers as always will be fine so keep hating haters

  39. sportyspice99 says: Feb 20, 2012 9:43 PM

    ben is over-rated! bring back maadox, kordell, graham, tomczak, odonnell, or brister! those guys helped the great d bring the rings!

  40. citizenstrange says: Feb 20, 2012 9:46 PM

    Good Lord this is not rocket science brain surgery.

    What Art Rooney II wants to see is NOT getting blown out 35-7 by the Ravens and NOT getting blown out 20-3 by the 49ers NOT scoring under freakin’ 20 point games in over half the regular season games by a supposedly Pro Bowl quarterback.

    Am I taking crazy pills here?

  41. bensstinkyfingers says: Feb 20, 2012 9:48 PM

    Let the drama begin, the Steelers will implode. They had a good run ,but are clearly on the downward spiral to the bottom of the AFC north. they will not make the playoffs again anytime soon (book it) And Poor Baby Benny didn’t get a phone call, WAAAAHH, now you know how your women feel not getting the “courtesy call”. Should make for good entertainment this year.

  42. rascalmanny says: Feb 20, 2012 9:49 PM

    Haven’t talked in two weeks? Wow. Not good.

    Doesn’t bother me though….I hate the Steelers. LOL

    Of course, Big Ben could be lying. He definitely has questionable character.

  43. riverhorsey says: Feb 20, 2012 9:54 PM

    Ben, has Todd called you yet ???

  44. drewzducks says: Feb 20, 2012 9:55 PM

    That’s cuz Haley is too busy relocating his daughters as far away as possible from this serial sexual deviant.

  45. arnoldziffel says: Feb 20, 2012 10:28 PM

    Seeing as how Haley is a professional coach, beginning his time with an organization that was in the Super Bowl just two years ago … a courtesy call to your 2-time winning Super Bowl quarterback might not be a bad idea.

    Each offensive coordinator has a system with an invented language that’s fairly unique … and I suspect you’d want your starting quarterback to be able to master it before the season kicks off.

    Perhaps it’s still too early … maybe he wants to give Big Ben his time off – at least until after the draft. But a phone call or a visit wouldn’t be out of order.

    Screw up this relationship – and Failure won’t be far behind.

  46. hsbox27 says: Feb 20, 2012 10:31 PM

    Let the drama begin, the Steelers will implode. They had a good run ,but are clearly on the downward spiral to the bottom of the AFC north. they will not make the playoffs again anytime soon (book it) And Poor Baby Benny didn’t get a phone call, WAAAAHH, now you know how your women feel not getting the “courtesy call”. Should make for good entertainment this year.

    Bottom of the AFC North? 12-4 is hardly on the “downward spiral” Must be a Browns/Bungals/Gayvens fan. You’d know all about it then.

  47. psmith7716 says: Feb 20, 2012 10:32 PM

    I am a Big Ben fan, but an even bigger Steeler fan. I say, c’mon Ben, go up to Haley, stick out your hand, and tell him you want to start getting ready for the season. The team is bigger than any individual player (or coach). I want the team to win!!

  48. getyourownname says: Feb 20, 2012 10:35 PM

    Note to Haley: You know how queens play hard to get. Send Ben some flowers and a note telling him how pretty he is, he’ll come around.

  49. tmilla19 says: Feb 20, 2012 10:36 PM

    How many Super Bowls has Parcells been to/won versus Haley? Parcells said, “Put some pelts on the wall.” Haley has no pelts, unless you count that beard. So who cares what he has to say. Jellyburgler at least has been to the dance and won it before.

  50. briang123 says: Feb 20, 2012 10:42 PM

    The Rooneys are senile yes but this is a good tact. I like it.

  51. johntonioholmes says: Feb 20, 2012 10:50 PM

    bigbluenationdb

    Oh please. Eli has 2 superbowls exclusively because of his defense.

    I can tell you right now that he would have 0 if he was playing with Pitt’s D.

    Despite the fact that Pitt’s D is perpetually #1 or #2 in the league, Brady usually carves them up. And in 2007, the Giants won because their defense held the highest scoring offense in league history to 14 points.

    Don’t talk about “overrated.”

  52. 5chan says: Feb 20, 2012 10:54 PM

    Listen Ben, Haley’s been a little busy waxing his Firebird while blaring Skynard.

  53. johntonioholmes says: Feb 20, 2012 10:54 PM

    Overblown story, as usual.

    Should they be in contact? Yes, but Tomlin still has the final OK over the playbook.

    I think Ben knows that the plays shouldn’t change too drastically, just the order in which they were called.

    That was the biggest problem with Arians. Sometimes every route by the receiver would be 25 yards long and he would call all of the plays in succession.

    Individually, those are good plays. But back to back to back, when they didn’t work the first time usually spells disaster.

  54. skolvikesskol says: Feb 20, 2012 11:04 PM

    Ben should wear his his Super Bowl rings, so when Haley starts acting like Haley, he can just make a fist and say… how many of these do you have? You know what buddy, you can go scream at a wall for 15 minutes while I stand in the pocket shrugging of 300 pound lineman, during my fourth quarter comebacks where I have to throw the game winning touchdown twice b/c my receivers are bush league. When your done with temper tantrum you can go to press pretend you had something to do with the win.

  55. riverhorsey says: Feb 20, 2012 11:07 PM

    Hey Ben, Todd stuck a hello note in a bottle and threw it in Three Rivers. Have you found it yet???

  56. johanneschimpo says: Feb 21, 2012 12:20 AM

    No means no, Ben.

  57. steelersarewhatfootballisabout says: Feb 21, 2012 1:05 AM

    Both men need to be professionals and learn how to work effectively together. But I don’t put as much stock in Parcells’ coaching methods/style. He was a prick and a half and got away with it because he won Superbowls. There were plenty of men that carried themselves with maturity and professionalism that he still treated like crap. Lombardi was glorified because he was a winner, but treated the players downright abusively. You can get the best out of grown men playing a game they love without having to be a jerk. It’s called being mature.

  58. steelersarewhatfootballisabout says: Feb 21, 2012 1:13 AM

    I remember when the Giants beat the 9ers at Candlestick with Hostetler at QB going into the Superbowl against the Bills first of their 4 consecutive losses in the big game. Hostetler was required to honor a postgame interview, and Parcells left in the buses without him. John Madden drove him on his bus to the airport so Hostetler didn’t miss the flight. Really? You’re QB just played a solid game to get you into the biggest game of the season, and you purposely leave him at the stadium when he had to do a postgame interview? When he had to step in after Simms was hurt and proved when he went to the Raiders after the Giants part of his career that he could sling the ball over the field? Parcells’ ego couldn’t cash that particular check.

  59. flakazoid says: Feb 21, 2012 1:29 AM

    ravenmaniacisback says:
    I LOVE IT!!!!!! 7-9……..
    ——————————————–
    Like this is any worse than the relationship between Flacco and Cameron
    I LOVE IT!!!!!!! 7-9 ALSO………………….

  60. rmavs says: Feb 21, 2012 1:41 AM

    My apologies, but it is the off season, right? I wouldn’t expect or want my “boss” to call and chat when I’m on “vacation”. Steelers fans should be happy as hell that they have Ben. He has proven his mettle time and again, and with that, delivered Super Bowl rings. Everything is going to be fine in the Pit…Haley or not.

  61. TeamBalco says: Feb 21, 2012 2:11 AM

    Next year Big Ben hits the trading block (per his request)

  62. tatum064 says: Feb 21, 2012 2:27 AM

    jimmysimpson55 says:
    Feb 20, 2012 6:42 PM
    For all of you anti-Haley idiots, Haley was hired to make Big Ben stop being fat and lazy and complacent. The Rooney’s have signed off on Haley’s tough love approach. No team will ever let it’s QB control the organization again after Peyton Manning ruled the Colts. That dynamic is now history and Big Ben needs to start working hard again.

    ====================

    Its a receipe for disaster, as he crushed Matt Cassel’s confidence, went against Pioli, sold out Bill Muir, then took over OC duties, and the Chiefs regressed even more (albiet they had injuries to major starters).

    Horrific hire. Tomlin better watch his back, i think it was telling when Tomlin was like “Im on board with Haley” line days after the hire.

    Its no coincidence Charlie Weis split before the season ended to a OC job. He’s a wanna be Bill Parcells type (without the rings or respect from his team)

    half the time, Cassel would be yelling back at him, as were a number of players. You could argue he fired them up, but it backfired often with petty final game accusations of running the score up…I can believe they let this guy into the Blast Furnace….

  63. rodgers419 says: Feb 21, 2012 3:16 AM

    Ben is a future hall of fame quarterback. Nobody is going to remember who this Todd Haley guy is 15 years from now. Ben should keep that in mind and not lower himself to Haley’s level.

  64. ridingwithnohandlebars says: Feb 21, 2012 6:25 AM

    While it might be a little bumpy between the two of them at first, Haley will probably make Ben a better quarterback in the end.

  65. quittsburghstoolers says: Feb 21, 2012 7:26 AM

    On Monday, Roethlisberger told Mark Kaboly of the Pittsburgh Tribune-Review (via NFL.com) that Haley “still hasn’t called me yet.”

    ———————————————————-

    Gee, here’s an idea “Einstein”… if ya wanna talk to him so badly try picking up the phone yourself and call him first.

    Freaking diva… Tastelessberger thinks his BOSS needs
    to get a hold of him to talk & not the other way around.

    What a clown…

  66. nflofficeadmin says: Feb 21, 2012 7:57 AM

    For what it’s worth, Bruce Ariens had coffee at Ben’s house this morning – and they enjoyed each other’s company.

  67. CKL says: Feb 21, 2012 8:00 AM

    5chan says:
    Feb 20, 2012 10:54 PM
    Listen Ben, Haley’s been a little busy waxing his Firebird while blaring Skynard.

    ––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––
    COME AT ME, BRO!
    (judging by your name and your comment you must read KSK :) )

  68. jgo304 says: Feb 21, 2012 9:28 AM

    Based on what, 2 SB’s one which was won by Willie Parker and Playing the horrid Seahawks. He is not elite, he is a 6’5 Holligan with a big arm. Thats about it…..Pittsburgh’s success under PigBen is attributed to a great defense and a solid ground game. Since the ground game vanished so did their SB wins.

    Ben is a future hall of fame quarterback. Nobody is going to remember who this Todd Haley guy is 15 years from now. Ben should keep that in mind and not lower himself to Haley’s level.

  69. bigjdve says: Feb 21, 2012 11:31 AM

    In the business world, shouldn’t the employee come to the boss?

    I mean, it is nice when the boss calls, however you would think that Ben would want to make sure to meet his new coach, whether he likes him or not.

    They will have to work together, the Rooneys like Ben but still found it necessary to hire Haley. That should tell him something.

  70. gnutella0 says: Feb 21, 2012 11:47 AM

    jg0304 thinks that the Steelers have had a solid running game. Thanks. I haven’t laughed that hard in years. The Steelers had 58 yards rushing and 2.2 YPC during Super Bowl XLIII. How solid of them. They haven’t ranked in the top 10 in rushing yards or YPC since 2007 either. Quite solid, I must say. Of course, feces is solid too.

    Pittsburgh’s running game has been mediocre for the last four seasons, and yet, they have a combined record of 45-19 in that period of time, with three playoff appearances, two division championships, two conference championships, and one Super Bowl championship. So basically, not only are you guilty of the correlation/causation fallacy, but your timeline is off too. Those little details just get in the way, don’t they?

    You know what’s not solid, though? Your credibility. It just vaporized.

    As for bigbluenationdb claiming that Roethlisberger fools around all game and only gets it together in the fourth quarter, here’s a nifty chart just for you:

    1Q, 2009 – 108.7
    2Q, 2009 – 109.3
    3Q, 2009 – 76.6
    4Q, 2009 – 101.8

    1Q, 2010 – 79.1
    2Q, 2010 – 100.4
    3Q, 2010 – 96.4
    4Q, 2010 – 110.3

    1Q, 2011 – 103.9
    2Q, 2011 – 89.5
    3Q, 2011 – 92.5
    4Q, 2011 – 74.1

    As you can see, Roethlisberger has posted a passer rating of 90.0+ in eight of his last 12 season quarters, and 100.0+ in six of his last 12 season quarters. Doesn’t look like he’s fooling around in every quarter but the fourth to me.

    By the way, Roethlisberger’s 90.1 passer rating in 2011 is still higher than all but two of Eli Manning’s single-season ratings. Really, Giants fans don’t have much room to call other QBs overrated, especially considering everybody’s proclaimed Eli Manning to be “elite” in the last few weeks. Never mind that Roethlisberger has a better career winning percentage, completion percentage, TD percentage, INT percentage, TD/INT ratio and passer rating than Eli does, plus more yards per game and yards per attempt. Great, Eli’s played well in the Super Bowl, but then again, so did Jim Plunkett, Doug Williams and Jeff Hostetler, yet that didn’t magically make any of them elite QBs. For that matter, playing poorly in the Super Bowl didn’t prevent Fran Tarkenton, John Elway or Jim Kelly from being elite QBs either.

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