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It’s an easy year to avoid overpaying running backs

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The best free agent running backs aren’t going anywhere. The rest of the free agent running backs aren’t too inspiring.

Perhaps this is the year where NFL teams realize you don’t need to overpay runners in free agency.

Ray Rice, Matt Forte, and Marshawn Lynch are all expected to remain with their current teams under a franchise tag or long-term deal. (We’d argue the Seahawks are likely to overpay for Lynch.)

Assuming Arian Foster — a restricted free agent — stays in Houston, that leaves Michael Bush as perhaps the most complete back likely to hit the open market. We’d rank Peyton Hillis, BenJarvus Green-Ellis, Cedric Benson, and Mike Tolbert as the next guys in line.

Bush wore down late last year, failing to top 80 rushing yards in his last six starts. He’s better used as a complementary player.  Tolbert may be the best value of the group because he has a versatile skill and won’t cost a lot.  Benson no longer breaks tackles and can’t help on passing downs.

Hillis and BGE are examples why you shouldn’t overpay for backs.

Hillis would have cost a lot more money a year ago, but his limitations, attitude problems, and injury issues popped up in 2011. Green-Ellis entered the league as an undrafted free agent and wound up as the starting running back on the No. 1 AFC seed the last two years.

Instead of paying Green-Ellis in free agency, teams should look to find the next Law Firm late in the draft. Or after the draft is over.

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  1. hystoracle says: Feb 21, 2012 10:49 AM

    Why is there a Hockey video on PFT? Now I need to go to PHT to see if they have football videos.. Talk about cross-promotion, you nailed it. I like Hockey but not what I expected to see embeded in this story.

  2. benh999 says: Feb 21, 2012 10:57 AM

    Why teams ever draft RBs high or overpay for them in free agency is beyond me. They have a short shelf life, are very exposed to injuries, and a decent scouting department can find complimentary pieces that can perform the same for less money, while providing good depth.

    There are a lot more Shaun Alexanders out there than Emmitt Smiths.

  3. jakek2 says: Feb 21, 2012 11:01 AM

    Passing league. Best blitz pick-up back in the league. 2x SB champ. He’s not a 100 yd back but who needs them anymore? Last ranked running team in the NFL just won the SB. Therefore, how is Brandon Jacobs not on this list????

  4. kissbillsrings says: Feb 21, 2012 11:04 AM

    I really do hope BJGE ends up staying with the Pats but if he does go elsewhere I wouldn’t mind seeing Hillis getting picked up as our POWER back…he’d have to carry the ball a lot less & save on the wear & tear his body has been taking in Cleveland due to the rotation of backs & the passing attack of Brady & he can catch the ball out of the backfield as well…..would be perfect in short yard situations & to Pound the ball in the 4th quarter when defenses are exhausted & the Pats got the lead…

  5. pacodawg says: Feb 21, 2012 11:09 AM

    Hillis is overrated. Slow off the line,fumbles a lot and not a great receiver. The browns should stay at 4 select rg iii if there if not take Richardson. The next emmit smith
    S

  6. thegonz13 says: Feb 21, 2012 11:09 AM

    A fool and his money are soon parted. Watch a bunch of foolish owners overpay for RB’s who just aren’t worth it!

  7. 6ball says: Feb 21, 2012 11:11 AM

    .

    Green Ellis isn’t going to get a big payday from the Patriots. Belichick likes to have a rotation of backs, each with certain skills. Next season he’ll be sharing time with Danny Woodhead and last year’s 2nd and 3rd round choices, Shane Vereen and Steven Ridley. Rotation backs usually don’t get big paydays.

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  8. We'reFineThere says: Feb 21, 2012 11:16 AM

    The NFL stinks to watch now unless you have a thing for watching good QB’s beat the worst coverage player on the opposing team.

  9. bigjdve says: Feb 21, 2012 11:21 AM

    I think that the backs listed as those that will be staying with their teams are going to be hating life, as I think that AP might’ve been the last back to get the really big bucks.

    I think that the strategy change as well as the glut of decent backs has forever changed the game.

  10. nineroutsider says: Feb 21, 2012 11:22 AM

    I’d love to see the 9ers replace Anthony Dixon with Mike Tolbert. He can run, catch, and block and would be a huge help in goal line situations.

  11. cincybert says: Feb 21, 2012 11:27 AM

    “Benson no longer breaks tackles…” When did he break tackles? At Texas?

  12. sj39 says: Feb 21, 2012 11:29 AM

    And let’s not forget running backs have been proven to be fungible.

  13. AlohaMrHand says: Feb 21, 2012 11:31 AM

    Id like to see the Raiders keep Bush and trade McFadden while his value is still high. Now I know Bush isnt an everydown back I can see a Taiwon Jones Rock Cartwright Bush combo in the backfield. I like McFadden but he isnt durable. Hes never finished an entire season let alone played one. Perhaps in a dfferent system he can last longer such as New Englands where they dont emphasize the run as often.

  14. joetoronto says: Feb 21, 2012 11:36 AM

    jakek2 says: Feb 21, 2012 11:01 AM

    Passing league. Best blitz pick-up back in the league. 2x SB champ. He’s not a 100 yd back but who needs them anymore? Last ranked running team in the NFL just won the SB. Therefore, how is Brandon Jacobs not on this list????
    ***************************************************
    I’ll give you this, that’s certainly a unique way of thinking.

    Yikes!

  15. eaglesnoles05 says: Feb 21, 2012 11:37 AM

    Saying first that there are very few single total RBs that “carry the load” for a team anymore (unless there are injuries) I’m not sure it’s fair to judge Michael Bush as someone who can’t carry the load after he wore down during the first time he’s ever consistently had 25+ touches for a long stretch. Very well could’ve upped his endurance and seasoned him for a heavier load going forward. I’d certainly take Michael Bush on my team, no question, and I hope he doesn’t go to Washington.

  16. gooboy6 says: Feb 21, 2012 11:40 AM

    what about Jackie Battle of the Chiefs ? Pull out that Colts tape, BAM, BOOM, WHAM, he was CRUSHING those guys, it was awesome

  17. hound32 says: Feb 21, 2012 11:40 AM

    Hillis will resign with the Browns . a one year 5 mill prove it deal . he woke up towards the end of the season after acting like a diva . he wants to stay with the Browns . he needs some help as he can’t carry the load by himself . Hardesty is total draft bust . they had better not be counting on a broken down back who cant catch .. block or run ..cut his sorry ass now !

  18. shaner329 says: Feb 21, 2012 11:42 AM

    Michael Bush was a beast last year, and he had big shoes to fill. I kept saying last year he should get a starting job, and I hope he does.

  19. jmagnet28 says: Feb 21, 2012 11:51 AM

    Bottomline, this ain’t the 80’s anymore.

    Guys like Earl Campbell and Walter Payton just aren’t necessary to win a SB anymore.

    You can absolutely win with a pedestrian RB. Packers did it 2 yrs ago. Giants did it this year.

    There are only 2 questions that need to be asked to determine if a team can compete for a championship: Can you pass the ball? Can you get to the passer?

  20. farvite says: Feb 21, 2012 11:53 AM

    I’d love to see Hillis in Green Bay.

  21. bensstinkyfingers says: Feb 21, 2012 11:56 AM

    Hillis is likely staying in Cleveland, with a hometown discount of course. He would be a good fit with the Patriots though, hope it doesnt happen!

  22. jakek2 says: Feb 21, 2012 11:58 AM

    jmagnet – you are dead on. I made the case for Brandon Jacobs but I think bloggers here reacted negatively sheerly on his (unfounded) bad rap. If half of the equation is getting to the passer and Jacobs is arguably the best back at preventing that from happening, how isn’t he more regarded? I get that he has a big mouth and says dumb things but he stays out of trouble and is the consummate team player (voluntarily took a pay cut, has said he’ll take another, and quietly stepped aside for Bradshaw to take over as No. 1).

  23. lolb23 says: Feb 21, 2012 12:01 PM

    Who was the last elite RB to win a SB? Jerome Bettis?

    And even then the refs had to cheat to help Pittsburgh.

  24. mikewhorio says: Feb 21, 2012 12:12 PM

    Someone will overpay for Tolbert.

  25. theytukrjobs says: Feb 21, 2012 12:18 PM

    Running backs have a short shelf life most of the time, but don’t underestimate the value of having an elite back and running game. Passing is more important and the SB teams were great passing, poor running squads.

    But you know what, the two teams that lost in the championship rounds, in extremely close games, were both squads with a terrific running game and not elite passing game.

  26. howardheezy says: Feb 21, 2012 12:27 PM

    Um, Shaun Alexander was the #1 reason the Seahawks made it to its one and only Super Bowl. You cannot underestimate the impact that a great running back can have on a team’s chance of winning a title. Even if he only has five good seasons, 1500 carries means a whole lot to your team’s success when the guy consistently gets you first downs and eats up clock.

  27. shavodog1 says: Feb 21, 2012 12:47 PM

    Jerome Bettis was not an elite running back, more like a one trick pony…

  28. infectorman says: Feb 21, 2012 12:58 PM

    jakek2 says: says: Feb 21, 2012 11:01 AM

    Passing league. Best blitz pick-up back in the league. 2x SB champ. He’s not a 100 yd back but who needs them anymore? Last ranked running team in the NFL just won the SB. Therefore, how is Brandon Jacobs not on this list????
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
    “Best blitz pick-up back in the league”
    In a dream world much?

    “how is Brandon Jacobs not on this list????”

    Let me count the ways:

    *Old
    *Slow
    *straight-ahead runner without shake nor bake
    *horrible punk-a$$ attitude
    *on the back 9 of career

    That about covers it.

  29. sirmixalotalotalot says: Feb 21, 2012 1:35 PM

    RB’s are a dime a dozen. Success at this position now is all about system and not about ability. No RB is worth a 1st round pick or money because 3 deep on most teams can be just as successful as the number 1 guy when camp starts.

    If you want to be a good NFL team you need to build a strong D-Line, good O-Line, and find a great QB. RB’s, WR’s, DB’s are all just a byproduct of the the success of D-Line, O-Line, and QB.

  30. wickerphil says: Feb 21, 2012 1:42 PM

    Another idiotic article. Look, if you don’t have a top 5 QB – which by definition 27 NFL teams won’t – then your best chance is with the combination of a very good QB and a strong running game. If Lee Evans doesn’t drop that ball OR if the kicker doesn’t shank that field goal, then the Ravens are in a Super Bowl. That and if the 49ers had signed a good backup KR/PR, then the Super Bowl would have been between Frank Gore and Ray Rice.

    If the NFL ceases to draft RBs high and pay them well, then you will see the best athletes abandon the RB position to play WR, TE or defense. (It has already happened with fullbacks … a lot of guys who would have made great fullbacks 25 years ago are now playing LB.) When that happens, the dearth of good QBs in the NFL will be even more pronounced, as defenses will be able to totally ignore the running game and tee off on QBs. Result: more QBs will get hurt, and there will be yet another round of “we need to change the rules to protect the QB!” nonsense.

    I believe that Rosenthal was the same guy who bashed Montee Ball for coming back for his senior season to try to become one of the top 50 players drafted (1st round or halfway through the 2nd). Why Ball be in any particular hurry to get used up for 4 years and then thrown away if that be the case, if guys like Rosenthal do not believe that guys like Ball should get big contract extensions? If RBs aren’t going to get the chance to get rich like QBs do (didn’t the Bills’ QB just cash in for winning a whole 6 games last year?) then they definitely should stay in school and get their degrees, because they are going to need them.

  31. sadviking says: Feb 21, 2012 1:43 PM

    While it’s true that you don’t need an all-star back to win, you do still need a back that is good enough to make a defense respect them. Additionally, a GREAT back will open up the passing game for the quarterback by requiring 7-8 men in the box. I don’t think it’s that a run first team can’t win anymore, I just don’t see any run first teams lately that have even an Average quarterback.

  32. jakek2 says: Feb 21, 2012 1:47 PM

    infectorman –

    Your hate on Jacobs oozes in your post. Lets talk facts.

    1) Name me a better RB at picking up blitzes. There isn’t one. What Jacobs does to blitzers, you can’t find in a shiftier back.

    2) You say he’s old. I say, he’s 29 and has less mileage on him than 25 yr old Ray Rice or Gore.

    3) Straight ahead runner w/o shake or bake. Granted. But that’s his style. His use is to wear down opposing front 7s. Body blow 3-4 yd gains. Don’t underestimate this. Worn down front 7s are a HUGE reason why the Giants put up big 4th quarter numbers.

    4) Horrible punk attitude. Granted. But his teammates love him and that is what counts…not what opposing fans think of him.

    5) On the back 9 of his career. That’s what plenty said about Bettis in the years before Pitt won their SBs. I never said that Jacobs deserved DeAngelo Williams money. I just said he belongs on the list above. Surely he is better than Cedric Benson under whatever criteria you use.

    Admit it. If Jacobs kept his mouth shut, you’d put him on the list. I’ll go one further…if the Giants release him, the Eagles will sign him that day.

  33. KIR says: Feb 21, 2012 1:53 PM

    I laugh at these football experts who want to compare an entire O Line to 1 RB. Of course 5 players are more important than 1 RB. Now tell me which O Lineman on their teams is more important than Rice, Forte and Foster? Tell me what individual player(s) on the entire teams are more important than these players? I’ll wait for your answer. Then you can tell me 1) How easy they are to replace 2) How much they’re worth.

  34. 49erlifer says: Feb 21, 2012 1:57 PM

    gooboy6 says:
    Feb 21, 2012 11:40 AM
    what about Jackie Battle of the Chiefs ? Pull out that Colts tape, BAM, BOOM, WHAM, he was CRUSHING those guys, it was awesome.

    Id say just about every team did that to the Colts

  35. wickerphil says: Feb 21, 2012 1:57 PM

    sadviking:

    That is true. Most teams either have a great RB and terrible QB, or a great QB and terrible RBs. Teams that have a great QB and great RBs are rare. Peyton Manning did for awhile, but then Edgerrin James got old, and Joseph Addai got beat up behind that horrible OL. Houston WOULD, but Matt Schaub won’t stay healthy! Ditto with the Bears: Cutler won’t stay healthy. I guess the closest thing to it is Joe Flacco and Ray Rice, and after that Matt Ryan and Michael Turner (and the Falcons also have OL issues).

    But get this: if it was as easy to find good RBs later in the draft as Rosenthal claims, then why do the RBs for the Packers and Patriots stink? The Patriots had to at least respect Ahmad Bradshaw and Brandon Jacobs, where the Giants could totally ignore Green-Ellis and Woodhead and concentrate on covering the WRs and teeing off on Brady. That was the difference in the game. It CERTAINLY wasn’t Eli Manning being a better QB than Tom Brady. Not that Rosenthal will admit it! And then there was the fact that the RB made the game-winning score. Before you say “they let him score”, Bradshaw had several key runs on that final drive after Manningham made his catch: he played a huge role in driving them into chip shot field goal range in the first place. When you add the fumble problems that Stevan Ridley had that got him benched, the Super Bowl … maybe NE would have 4 Super Bowl championships by now had they just gone out and drafted a RB in the first round already.

  36. eaglesnoles05 says: Feb 21, 2012 2:29 PM

    If the eagles sign Jacobs instead of Bush or Hillis, I’ll shoot myself in the face.

  37. jakek2 says: Feb 21, 2012 2:34 PM

    joetoronto says:
    Feb 21, 2012 11:36 AM
    jakek2 says: Feb 21, 2012 11:01 AM

    Passing league. Best blitz pick-up back in the league. 2x SB champ. He’s not a 100 yd back but who needs them anymore? Last ranked running team in the NFL just won the SB. Therefore, how is Brandon Jacobs not on this list????
    ***************************************************
    I’ll give you this, that’s certainly a unique way of thinking.

    Yikes!
    ———————————
    I’m not sure its that unique. If it was, Jerry Reese likely wouldn’t have reworked Jacobs’ deal when there were numerous other backs “on the list” that could have been had. Therefore, if you’re confident enough to say “yikes” regarding my train of thought, I’d hope you have the same confidence to say the same to a GM with a similar train of thought that has built two super bowl winning teams in the last 4 years. Thank you.

  38. howardheezy says: Feb 21, 2012 2:36 PM

    Brandon Jacobs isn’t on Rosenthal’s list of “top” RB free agents because he had already made his point using the names Bush, Hillis, Benson, and Tolbert, i.e., the free agent RBs in 2012 aren’t likely to put up as many rushing yards for your team as a mid- or low-round draft pick. Roy Helu was a fourth round pick who averaged more yards per carry than ALL these guys (as well as Jacobs). Helu’s good, but no ever said his rookie season was worthy of a Pro Bowl appearance…

    Jacobs still has some good years left in the tank, but no GM is going to think they’ve fixed their backfield by picking up a guy who can handle passing downs and short yardage situations. No, that GM still needs to draft a minimum salary type guy who could get 4+ yards on first downs…

  39. eaglesnoles05 says: Feb 21, 2012 2:49 PM

    Jake- while the “scoreboard” argument will always win in the end, and the superbowl championship comes with the right for fans to play it, Brandon Jacobs looks like crap running the ball recently, although he can block (eli doe get sacked alot though…) If he want’s to be in Bush and Hillis “right now” class as an individual free agent runningback, he better start running the football better.

  40. watermelon1 says: Feb 21, 2012 2:56 PM

    Hilarious that PFT would try and make a case that the Seahawks could overpay for Lynch… but act like the Ravens contemplating giving Ray Rice a huge contract would be a great move when they could spend that same money so much better to try and win in today’s NFL. You don’t win with running. And Ray Rice isn’t the kind of back that can get you that guaranteed 1 yard when it’s a crucial 3rd down, 4th down, or you’re on the goal line.

    Give me Lynch any Sunday over Rice… especially if he’ll cost less. Shoot, give me the 1st and 3rd round pick you’d get for Rice, and any decent rookie or free agent running back over Rice and a huge contract.

  41. hedleykow says: Feb 21, 2012 3:00 PM

    Looks as if Denver is stuck with their overpaid running back (Tebow).

  42. howardheezy says: Feb 21, 2012 3:19 PM

    Ray Rice led the league in yards from scrimmage last season. He already has two seasons with 2,000 YFS, and he’s only played for four seasons. The NFL running back record for number of 2k YFS seasons is four–the three players who hold this record are Walter Payton, Eric Dickerson, and Marshall Faulk.

    Ray, make me your agent! I’ll get you that max money.

  43. jrosenbaum says: Feb 21, 2012 3:21 PM

    No, Denver has a Pro Bowl running back in Willis McGahee. He had an excellent year and I don’t think cost that much money.

  44. jakek2 says: Feb 21, 2012 3:27 PM

    eaglesnoles – You are the perfect person to have this debate with because, as an Eagles’ fan, you should have a keen appreciation for the value of a player whose intangibles exceed his skill level.

    I know the Eagles had troubles on defense this year but I’d submit that their biggest overall problem was that they had no team leader. A good team leader can squeeze better and more consistent play out of marginal players. Although Dawkins isn’t near the player now that he was, the Eagles lost a lot of their identity when he left. The same case can be made for Ray Lewis. He’s been a 1 down LB for a year or two now but the Ravens are a different team with him on the field.

    I make the same case for Jacobs. Obviously, he’s not going for 25 and 150. Instead, he is like having another OL in the backfield on passing downs. He beats up a front 7 with physical 3-4 yd per carry runs and softens up defenses for the rest of the skill players. Most importantly, he’d bring a “toughness” element to a team sorely in need of it. (Once Dawkins left, the Eagles too lost this “toughness” element”. They were no longer “beat-you-up” but more glitzy/speed. This is why I say he’d be a great addition for them). Not only does he bring “toughness”, he brings 2 rings and that cannot be understated (Many teams have all the skill but just simply don’t know how to win).

    Still, I can make this case until I’m blue in the face. However, non-Giant fans won’t listen simply because Jacobs mouthed off to Gisele Bunchen.

  45. jakek2 says: Feb 21, 2012 3:29 PM

    eaglesnoles – Separately, as a Giants’ fan, I hope that the other gms in the league devalue Jacobs as many posters here. As someone who has watched his every snap, I know the value he brings to the Giants despite not having the eye-popping numbers.

  46. We'reFineThere says: Feb 21, 2012 4:16 PM

    Jacobs is a joke. The reason the giants won is because the QB-receivers and unlimited long-armed defenders.

  47. rcampore says: Feb 21, 2012 4:18 PM

    jakek2 says: Feb 21, 2012 3:29 PM

    eaglesnoles – Separately, as a Giants’ fan, I hope that the other gms in the league devalue Jacobs as many posters here. As someone who has watched his every snap, I know the value he brings to the Giants despite not having the eye-popping numbers.

    ___________________________________

    I am also a Giants fan who has watched every game he has played, I don’t know what you are smoking.

    Does he have some value? yes, but it’s not worth the money he is due. He picks up the blitz nicely, but that can be taught and yes he has value in the locker room, but as a runner he is not the same player anymore.

    Opponents now know that they just have to tackle him low and he goes down like a feather. He tries to be a bradshaw and make fancy cuts when what he should be doing is stick his head down as far low as he can and pummel his way through the line. Unless he changes his running technique, I will be perfectly fine if he leaves. I’d be happy if I never see him on a 3rd and 1 or 4th and 1 again.

  48. jakek2 says: Feb 21, 2012 4:51 PM

    rcampore – fair points but they do not relate to my argument. I only said that he belongs on this list as a RB that will not be overpaid. I agree that he is not worth $4.9M. Indeed, Jacobs admits that too and has already said he’d take another pay cut.

    However, as to some of your more substantial points. If blitz pickup can be taught so easily, Scott wouldn’t have been banished to the pines (which he was for missing a blitz that nearly cost Eli his life) and that bum D.J. Danny Ware, who has been on this team far too long, wouldn’t have been benched in the Super Bowl for fanning on his blitz pickup. The point is, that skill is not easily learned and, with our team solely dependent on Eli, we better have someone that knows how to do it.

    Second, as to “opponents now knowing to tackle him low”, I don’t think that is any great revelation. The dude is 270lbs. Anyway, I disagree with your opinion that he should just barrel through no matter what. Their OL in the run game was horrific this year and in transition with the losses of Seubert/O’Hara. In years they were good, Jacobs had time to pick his hole and generate his career 5 ypg avg. AB had a bad year too this year. Once we upgrade at RT and TE, holes will open.

    You don’t know what you have until its gone. Strahan left and we had a big hole at team leader. They don’t come around frequently. Keep them while you can even if it means missing an occasional 3rd and 1. (By the way, you do remember that he made the most important 4th and 1 in franchise history right? To me, he’s earned a lifetime of 4th and 1 failures for that one he succeeded on).

  49. eaglesnoles05 says: Feb 21, 2012 5:33 PM

    Jake- turnovers were the biggest problem, and reason the giants were in the playoffs. Even without a leader, we didn’t hold on to the ball. We had a RB throw a fumble pass at the goaline. Things like that = your trophy. So I know you like Jacobs alot, and I used to too, but he ain’t on the pedistal you have him on anymore, and the analysis of the eagles problems goes way too deep. Another year together with those players + less turnovers = good team.

    Jenkins is a leader on D, and was just resigned. Vick is a player guys look up too on the squad too, but he has to do his job ON the field and protect the ball. That was horrid, 2011. Just horrid. And the squeeze of the lemon in the eye for it is that we get to listen to the Giants now.

  50. eaglesnoles05 says: Feb 21, 2012 5:42 PM

    The rest of that was… “…that we have to listen to the 9-7 Giants now, commenting on how the Eagles, easily one of the winningest teams in the past decade who just had one bad 8-8 season, don’t know how to win.” You can see how ridiculously frustrating that would be if the roles were reversed.

    Eagles are coming next year, and not just to beat the giants, which we do anyway. ;)

  51. maddenisfordorks says: Feb 21, 2012 5:45 PM

    AFC south has the best 3 running backs in the league – and man our whole division SUCKS.

  52. jakek2 says: Feb 21, 2012 7:05 PM

    eaglesnoles – I can understand your frustration. You would think I “like Jacobs a lot” by my posts but that isn’t true. He’s okay but its not like I have his jersey and am worried about having to ebay it if he’s released (like I was with my Plax jersey).

    I just see the value in having that “team leader” player. It’s not just the Giants. The Broncos with Tebow, the Cardinals with Dockett, the Texans with Ryans (even after Schaub got hurt), even the Ravens with Ray Lewis all overperformed because those players inspired the players around them to play harder. Talent wise, the Eagles, Jets, Cowboys and Chargers are all equal to or even better than those teams. However, they are rudderless boats missing that “team leader” guy to bring it all together. That’s why I’ll readily hold onto a player with diminishing skills as long as they inspire players around them to play better. Its totally worth the tradeoff.

    By the way…Jenkins could turn into “that guy” this year. It doesn’t happen year one. We learned that with Rolle.

  53. eaglesnoles05 says: Feb 21, 2012 11:40 PM

    I wish they would’ve kept Dawk too. Being one of the greatest eagles ever is worth more to me than letting him walk, and he still has 2 more good years and we were just in the NFC champ game (again) when they let him go. Thought we were gonna win it that year. at 9-6-1, lol.

    Eagles have a good history of letting guys go that are done though. Derrick Burgess, Bdawk being the glaring exceptions.

  54. infectorman says: Feb 22, 2012 3:25 PM

    @jakek2 says:
    infectorman –

    Your hate on Jacobs oozes in your post. Lets talk facts.

    1) Name me a better RB at picking up blitzes. There isn’t one. What Jacobs does to blitzers, you can’t find in a shiftier back.

    2) You say he’s old. I say, he’s 29 and has less mileage on him than 25 yr old Ray Rice or Gore.

    3) Straight ahead runner w/o shake or bake. Granted. But that’s his style. His use is to wear down opposing front 7s. Body blow 3-4 yd gains. Don’t underestimate this. Worn down front 7s are a HUGE reason why the Giants put up big 4th quarter numbers.

    4) Horrible punk attitude. Granted. But his teammates love him and that is what counts…not what opposing fans think of him.

    5) On the back 9 of his career. That’s what plenty said about Bettis in the years before Pitt won their SBs. I never said that Jacobs deserved DeAngelo Williams money. I just said he belongs on the list above. Surely he is better than Cedric Benson under whatever criteria you use.

    Admit it. If Jacobs kept his mouth shut, you’d put him on the list. I’ll go one further…if the Giants release him, the Eagles will sign him that day.

    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

    You bet your arse I have a generous level of Hatorade on Jacobs but not for the reasons you think:
    First off, I am a NE fan, which you’ll probably think explains it all. But I don’t dislike him for the obvious reasons – although they are VERY apparent to anyone paying attention over the course of the last month.
    What GM/Coach wants a player that cannot elude a even a Linebacker out of the backfield any longer?

    He used to be able to run thru them, but not anymore. He was virtually useless to the Giants in the SB realting to gaining yards. Bradshaw carried the load and then some against a vastly improved NE Defense.
    When you line up a back in the backfield, most OC’s want to be able to change the play to a potential screen, or swing pass to a back that can MAKE SOMETHING HAPPEN out of the backfield after catching a short pass. One of the most difficult things to defend in todays NFL. Jacobs has never been that back and never will be. Granted he picks up the blitz well, but he is a one-dimensional runner that is long in the tooth and will be short on snap counts going forward. Diminishing returns in the economic concept that comes to mind when I think of a old, large. slow RB who’s best days are behind him.
    He kinda fits on a team that is a couple pieces away from winning a title as a role player now.
    Also I have to wonder about the intelligence level of a player that just won a championship and was compelled to “call-out” another players wife.
    What kind of a person does that? Not sure that I’ve ever heard of such a thing in watching professional sports for the better part of 35 years.

    Absurdly UNPROFESSIONAL, in short a PUNK!

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