Robert Griffin III hopes to run under 4.4, won’t throw at the Combine

Reuters

Everyone knows Baylor Heisman Trophy winner Robert Griffin III is one of the fastest quarterbacks in history, but the question is whether he’ll prove to be an NFL-quality passer. At the Scouting Combine, Griffin plans to demonstrate just how fast he is. But he doesn’t plan to show off his passing arm.

Griffin said on the Dan Patrick Show that he is leaning against throwing at the Combine.

“I don’t think so,” Griffin said. “It’s still up in the air but I’m probably not going to throw.”

Griffin said he doesn’t think throwing to a bunch of receivers he’s never met before is conducive to putting on the best passing performance he can, and so he’d rather hold off until Baylor’s Pro Day to throw to Baylor receivers in a more comfortable environment.

But Griffin, who was a world-class hurdler before focusing on football, is comfortable running anywhere. Griffin he said he’ll have no trouble running it in less than 4.5 seconds, and he’d like to run under 4.4, which he has done in the past.

“I think there’s a possibility that I go under 4.4,” Griffin said.

That would be an impressive showing. But the area where Griffin really needs to impress is with his arm. And that will have to wait.

60 responses to “Robert Griffin III hopes to run under 4.4, won’t throw at the Combine

  1. Scouts want to see throwing mechanics — probably the biggest question with Griffin. No one cares if the passes are actually completed or not. I would seriously doubt any team interested in him would care if he ran a 4.4 or 4.5 though. Pro Day drills that are designed to play to his strengths and hide his weaknesses will do much less to help team evaluate him.

    He is basically banking on being picked high due to a team owner pushing his front office to go after a guy with a fast 40 and name recognition.

  2. They all want to be a quarterback until they’re a quarterbacks. Then, when they are a quarterback, they just want to be a running back.

  3. Throw, dude. Shady when Qb’s don’t throw at the combine, if I’m an employer set to pay them millions of dollars to throw.

  4. I think he’ll provide an instant upgrade to any bad football team. But the bigger question is what sort of ceiling does he have? Can he then take it to the next level and make his team a serious contender?

  5. It amazes me how every year people act annoyed when the top Quarterback don’t throw at the combine. He is slotted in right now as the number 2 pick in the NFL draft. Why would he do anything to risk that?

    Believe it or not, his number 1 concern is not to make sure you are entertained this weekend when you watch a bunch of dudes in shorts and a t-shirt work out on NFL Network.

  6. latrobe21 says:
    Feb 21, 2012 10:32 AM
    They all want to be a quarterback until they’re a quarterbacks. Then, when they are a quarterback, they just want to be a running back.

    “They”, just who is “they”?

  7. This is a smart move for the kid and his handlers. He can only reduce his stock by throwing at the combine with unfamiliar receivers. Much better to have a pro-day with his guys, invite only the teams that want to see him, and control the situation. In fact, I wonder why he wants to run. Everyone knows he is fast, but why risk pulling a hammy? Is there really any difference in a QB that runs a 4.3 vs. a 4.5? Does he think the Colts will pass on Luck?

  8. RG3, nobody cares how fast you can run (Al Davis isn’t around anymore). You are supposed to be a QB, they care about your ability to pass and how tall you are.

  9. qb’s should have to throw at combine. yea they dont want to risk hurting their draft stock etc. but wtf go do what your setting out to do

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    This guy will go top 6, based on his play through college.

    What exactly does throwing at the combine do to help his stock at all? Either a team will draft him or not. He doesnt really have to worry about it.

  10. eaglesnoles05 says:
    Feb 21, 2012 10:33 AM
    Throw, dude. Shady when Qb’s don’t throw at the combine, if I’m an employer set to pay them millions of dollars to throw.
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    Every year we get the article about top QB prospects not throwing at the combine, and every year we get the knee jerk reaction about it being shady.

    The vast majority of top QB prospects over the last decade or so have opted to only throw at their pro day.

    It means nothing and not one single team cares or will hold it against them.

  11. This is a little shady. Newton had similar reasons not to throw. He threw anyways, looked generally awful, was drafted 1st anyways, and set the league on fire.

    But in RGIII’s defense his passing stats, arm strength, and accuracy are all well known and on film. He’s considered the best pure passer in the draft by scouts. When scouts feel that nobody can throw as well as you, then a combine showing can only hurt your stock.

    People may point out that Luck is the projected #1 but understand that Luck is taller and ran a more pro style offense, making him better prepared and proven for an NFL system. Griffen ran a spread offense with a pinch of zone read and option. He has to transition to the NFL. Luck played in as pro style of a system as there is in all of college football. His transition is only to speed and new terminology.

  12. Hat off to Cam Newton for throwing. His throws and workout in general were far from perfect and he still got drafted in a pretty decent spot last time I checked. Incoming QB’s have turned into pure businessmen via their agents. If you are afraid to show off the main asset required to do your job, than you likely got problems. Would a newspaper hire a journalist who dosnt bring his pen? Seriouslly though, these guys should be more worried about besting the other players in the throwing drills, instead of skipping the drill all together.

  13. Is the combine legitimate or just a dog-and-pony show for the rubes? If you’re a QB and don’t throw, why are you there?Might as well make a cool audition video instead of bothering with the combine and the live commercial called a”Pro Day”.

  14. If he wants to get picked number one over Andrew Luck then he should throw at the combine. No one has any questions about his speed so showing that off isn’t helpful.

  15. Doesn’t matter how fast he is…he is listed as 6’2″…it gets interesting if he is actually that tall. But if he is really 6′ or a bit over…then teams willing to draft a ‘short’ QB have to hope he is Brees-like. But all the RG3 lovers out there…stop now with the Cam Newton comparisons…unless this guy is suddenly going to get 3-5″ taller and 40 pounds heavier he is NOT Cam Newton and never will be.

  16. I don’t blame him whatsoever. Like the other guy said, try to keep as much control of the situation as you can. Throw to people you’re used to throwing to. If he anticipates a receiver “bursting” to the ball, he throws it a little harder. If he doesn’t have that chemistry, the plays don’t develop like they’re supposed to do.

    Look at it like Aaron Rodgers. He’s as good as he is because of the consistency in the receivers. He knows what to expect from them. He knows not to throw it as long while throwing it to Jordy vs. to Jennings.

    The team drafting him is taking a QB, but in order to see the true ceiling of the QB, better to see him throwing to guys he’s used to throwing to than complete strangers.

  17. Some of these comments are astoundingly stupid. There is no conspiracy. He’s not hiding anything. Some of you are just dumb.

    You want to see him throw? Why don’t you turn on one of the many games he’s played in? If you want to see him throwing in shorts then you can wait until Baylor’s pro day.

  18. I was really liking this kid and his potential, but its seems the past few weeks, he is coming off as a DIVA, with all the self promotion. I can do this, I should be #1, Etc. Could end up being problem. Confidence is one thing, you get respect by letting your actions speak for themselves.

  19. He’s not going to throw at the combine?? That’s like a wide-out or tight end saying he’s not going to catch. Unless he has an injury (or something to hide) he should be throwing. Oh but he will run the damn 40.

  20. I think these guys agents make them overthink things sometimes. I doubt RG3 could really hurt himself by throwing. Even if he did, beind drafted lower is in his best interest because it would mean a better team.

    Tebow on the other hand made the right call, he didn’t throw at the combine for obvious reasons and was able to fool a team into drafting him in the 1st.

  21. If Andrew Luck is throwing then this makes RGIII look like a chump.

    If you’re going to run and risk a hamstring pull, then you might as well throw the ball….remember, you’re a QB.

  22. Unbelievable.

    I can’t fathom the reaction to this.

    HE IS NOT REFUSING TO ALLOW TEAMS TO SEE HIM THROW.

    He is making the decision not to throw to wide outs he’s never met without having any time to practice with them- a situation he will NEVER find himself in once he is on a team.

    He is making the prudent choice that is made by a majority of top NFL prospects- something like 10 out of the last 13- and choosing to throw at his pro day to recievers he is familiar with.

    You know- like he will when he is in the pros.

    Eli Manning didn’t throw at the combine.
    Philip Rivers didn’t throw at the combine.
    Ben Rothlisberger did, and his poor performance there is often listed as a reason both of those guys were drafted before him.

    By the way, Luck is most likely not throwing either.

    Get over it.

  23. If a quarterback wants to participate in the scouting combine, they should be required to do everything for quarterbacks. Throwing to new people in a new environment shows a lot of very specific things that more likely than not will have actual relevance, like nerves. So instead of using the opportunity to grow, or prove they have already grown, quarterbacks are sacrificing a key small piece of their development to not risk sliding down in the draft, and unless they’ve already had something that grows you like throwing in the scouting combine, their confidence and nerves will be slightly off most likely during the preseason and the regular season.

  24. Hey RGIII…. What are you going to do when you get to a new team with unfamiliar Receivers? Part of the whole evaluation process involves you being able to adapt to unfamiliar sitatuations. Throw the damn ball kid!

  25. rodgers419 says:
    Feb 21, 2012 11:45 AM
    Some of these comments are astoundingly stupid. There is no conspiracy. He’s not hiding anything. Some of you are just dumb.

    You want to see him throw? Why don’t you turn on one of the many games he’s played in? If you want to see him throwing in shorts then you can wait until Baylor’s pro day
    amen.. amen..amen..

  26. ummmm.. I will take the white guy since its been proven that blacks qbs can not win championships
    I know people get all crazy when Limbuagh said that but its true.
    Would yo rather have Tom Brady or Vick as your qb?
    Cam Newton or Brees?
    Vince Young or Eli Manning
    Its not racist its just facts… I would take Darren Mcfadden over Danny Woodhead, I would take Peterson over Hillis
    Just a fact.
    Stop being so sensitive about it and just take it for what it is…

  27. mjkelly77 says:
    Feb 21, 2012 12:07 PM
    Smart of him to listen to his agent and not throw. Maybe he’ll fool someone into thinking he’s a quarterback

    ======================

    Smart of you to think the same things people said about Cam Newton. When he makes fools out of all of you makes it just that much sweeter. Hoping he goes to Cleveland and explodes , so they can forget about the disrespect of LeBron leaving that area.

  28. So does that mean if a team drafts him they also have to draft his Baylor receivers so he has someone he knows to throw to?

  29. icanspeel says:
    Feb 21, 2012 12:53 PM
    So does that mean if a team drafts him they also have to draft his Baylor receivers so he has someone he knows to throw to?
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    Umm………no. I am pretty sure that he will get to know the recievers on his team during the 3 or 4 minicamps, a full training camp, and 4 preseason games.

    At least a little better than he would know some combine reciever he met 5 minutes before he threw to him.

  30. I hope all of the people on here ripping RGIII’s head off for not throwing at the combine will post the same snarky comments when it is officially announced that Andrew Luck is also not throwing at the combine.

    Because he’s not. The Colts have already asked him not to.

    Which shows you how much stock teams put in combing throwing.

  31. Why would *ANY* certain high first round pick do *ANYTHING* at a combine?

    I woundnt even *show up* if I were him.

    Dude, your stock can really only go 1 direction!

  32. Realitypolice, if the Colts asked Luck not to participate in the scouting combine it isnt because they are afraid he will get injured, its because he will be throwing in front of other teams. The power of the scouting combine at work.

  33. @huejackson,

    Are you suggesting that Doug Williams isn’t black or that he wasn’t a QB?

    Mjkelly77,

    No need for you to continue to post on every story. We already know why you don’t like certain athletes.

    Bigots used to be full of entertainment value. You two are just full of misinformation. Enjoy!

    Go Lions! Go Badgers!

  34. Andrew Luck won’t throw at the combine either. Only guys trying to play their way into the 1st round throw at the combine. As it would take a total meltdown for RG3 to drop out of the top 10, he isn’t throwing.

  35. Most qb dont throw at the combine b/c they arent familiar with their wr’s. THAT WHY THEY HAVE PRO DAYS. They can throw to the guys they have been playing with for the last 3/4 years.
    Feeling like that “cam newton type hate” is surfacing again this year. The ppl so caught up on race. Probably never made it off their middle school “C” team. Thats why they are so bitter.

  36. I really think its the right decision not to throw until his pro-day.

    It would be one thing if he ran an option offense and only threw a handful of passes the whole season.

    It would be another if his completion percentage was specious going into the combine and he was having to fight his way out of the future WR label.

    But neither of those things are the case — there’s little doubt that he has a quality arm with a 70% completion percentage.

    Guys like Tebow and Pat White need to throw in front of scouts every chance they get to prove they’re not TE’s or WR’s. Everyone knows RGIII will be a QB. Let the combine do what the combine is best at — measuring quantitative metrics of physical performance.

  37. themonster49 says:
    Feb 21, 2012 1:35 PM
    Realitypolice, if the Colts asked Luck not to participate in the scouting combine it isnt because they are afraid he will get injured, its because he will be throwing in front of other teams. The power of the scouting combine at work.
    ===========================

    1) I never said they were afraid he would get injured. I didn’t give any reason why they asked him not to, just that they did.

    2) Why the hell would they care if other teams saw him throw? They have the number one pick, it’s not like someone can jump them. And I doubt opposing scouts would be able to get much intelligence on how to stop him (if that’s what you mean) by watching him throw out patterns to strangers in shorts.

    I’m pretty sure they have all the tape they need, and the Colts can’t stop them from coming to his Pro Day, where he WILL throw.

    They don’t want him to throw because it’s pointless. And only stupid waste time doing pointless things.

  38. The folks claiming that he won’t run a 4.5 at the combine … what do you base this on?

    Maybe this:

    “In track, he broke state records for the 110-meter and 300-meter hurdles. He ran the 110-meter hurdles in 13.55 seconds, and the 300-meter hurdles in 35.33 seconds. The 300-hurdles time was one-hundredth of a second short of breaking the national high school record. He was also a gold medalist in the 110 and 400-meter hurdles on the AAU track and field circuit. He sprinted 13.46 in the 110-meter hurdles and 49.56 in the 400-meter hurdles as a junior in high school. In 2007, as a junior, he was rated the No. 1 high school 400-meter immediate hurdler in the country, and was tied at No. 1 for the 110-meter sprint hurdler in the nation. ”

    Or this:

    “Earned All-America status in outdoor track and field during spring 2008 (early enrollee) before freshman season of football… Selected to Texas UIL All-Century Boys Track and Field prep team in May 2010… 2010 Academic All-District VI and Academic All-Big 12 first team

    Track & Field All-American after finishing third at NCAA Outdoor Championships in 400-meter hurdles (49.55)… Won Big 12 gold medal in 400-meter hurdles with third-fastest time (49.22) in school history.”

    Yeah. Believing that he won’t run a 4.5 40 is perfectly grounded in reason and logic … it is obvious that most of the RG3 bashers have never seen the guy play.

  39. hatesycophants says:Feb 21, 2012 1:37 PM

    @huejackson,
    Are you suggesting that Doug Williams isn’t black or that he wasn’t a QB?

    Mjkelly77,

    No need for you to continue to post on every story. We already know why you don’t like certain athletes.

    Bigots used to be full of entertainment value. You two are just full of misinformation. Enjoy!

    Go Lions! Go Badgers!
    _____________________

    I’m not a bigot. But if you feel better compartmentalizing people, go right ahead. That’s what real bigots and racists do.

  40. Never have understood the decision of a Qb who declines to throw at the combine. Obviously does not feel confident for some reason. One thing a Qb should always have is confidence in his arm.

    But why choose to run? If he feels he has nothing to prove by his passing, why does he feel he needs to run? Everyone already knows he is fast. What does he gain by running? Hope he doesn’t get hurt, but how ironic would it be if he blew an ACL while running drills at the combine. Makes no sense..

  41. huejackson says:
    Feb 21, 2012 12:44 PM
    ummmm.. I will take the white guy since its been proven that blacks qbs can not win championships
    I know people get all crazy when Limbuagh said that but its true.
    Would yo rather have Tom Brady or Vick as your qb?
    Cam Newton or Brees?
    Vince Young or Eli Manning
    Its not racist its just facts… I would take Darren Mcfadden over Danny Woodhead, I would take Peterson over Hillis
    Just a fact.
    Stop being so sensitive about it and just take it for what it is…
    —————————————-

    While I dont agree with the racist connotation of your post, I myself would also rather have a pocket passer than a running QB.

    As an Eagles fan, Im tired of watching “mobile” QBs NOT win championships. Yes, Randall Cunningham, Donovan McNabb, and Mike Vick have been fun to watch. They are very entertaining.

    But I honestly believe that if we had a pocket passer, we would have won a Super Bowl by now. Instead, we get erratic play from mobile QBs that are also inconsistent.

    I dont, however, care if that pocket passer is purple, black, white, yellow, orange, or plaid. Just give me a guy that can win a game when the chips are down. As much as I hate the Giants, I completely envy having a guy that will walk his team down the field in the ending minutes of the SB to win.

    When my team was in that position in 2004, my mobile QB threw 4 incompletions, 3 of which hit the ground 3-5 feet in front of the receiver. So instead of winning a championship in the last minute, we pitched a 3 and out.

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