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Colts permitted to sign Luck as soon as Friday

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In past years, some first overall picks were signed to contracts before the draft actually began.  Last year, due to the lockout, that was impossible.

This year, the presence of a rookie wage scale makes it much easier to get these deals done, since there’s no longer much — if anything — to negotiate.

Thus, the Colts could, in theory, sign the first overall pick long before the draft happens.  NFL spokesman Greg Aiello tells us that the Colts could sign the top pick as of Friday, after a pair of coin flips lock in the draft order.

And so, theoretically, Andrew Luck and Peyton Manning could end up as teammates, after all.  The Colts can sign Luck before they cut Manning.

With owner Jim Irsay clearly concerned about the P.R. issues relating to the departure of the team’s franchise quarterback, why not get the next franchise quarterback under contract before sending Peyton packing?

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59 Responses to “Colts permitted to sign Luck as soon as Friday”
  1. skipbayless says: Feb 22, 2012 1:33 PM

    It shall begin.

  2. rascalmanny says: Feb 22, 2012 1:34 PM

    In other news Irsay just tweeted the lyrics to “Message in a Bottle”.

  3. skinsrock says: Feb 22, 2012 1:35 PM

    And then he fell down a flight of stairs… I think I would wait & go through the process… draft him… then sign him right before camp like usual.

  4. gmsalpha says: Feb 22, 2012 1:35 PM

    Good LUCK with that, Irsay.

  5. fmlizard says: Feb 22, 2012 1:36 PM

    If the Colts did this, would the Rams then be on the clock to potentially do the same thing with their player of choice?

    If so, the early 1st round of the NFL Draft could become a staggered process playing out over 2 months in the spring in some years.

  6. edge3281 says: Feb 22, 2012 1:37 PM

    I am a HUGE Colts fan and may in the minority that the Colts would be making the right decision to move on from Manning and start the rebuild this season. However, doing this before you cut Manning might be a bad idea. It could be seen by a lot of fans to be disrespectful to Manning. At the least resolve his situation first. Then sign Andrew Luck.

  7. haileli says: Feb 22, 2012 1:37 PM

    Why bother? Maybe some incredibly desperate team offers you a once in a lifetime package of picks that the team just couldn’t pass up. Not likely to happen, but if they pick Luck, he’ll be on the field whether he signs in March or July.

  8. linvillegorge says: Feb 22, 2012 1:39 PM

    So let’s say the Rams knew they wanted to draft, say Blackmon for instance. Can they go ahead and sign him after the Colts hypothetically sign Luck?

  9. dprouse says: Feb 22, 2012 1:40 PM

    The sooner the Colts just rip off the band-aid here, the better it will be for all concerned. Release Manning ASAP, wait a few days out of respect for the departed, then announce the signing of Luck. All done…

  10. batyuki says: Feb 22, 2012 1:41 PM

    There’s no doubt in my mind that the Colts will draft Luck anyway, but I actually enjoy watching the draft. That being said, if teams start signing their draft choices weeks before the draft, the said draft becomes pointless. They should change that rule

  11. omystyles says: Feb 22, 2012 1:42 PM

    I can see it now….. Sign Luck this Friday…… Cut Peyton Manning on March 8th….. then on March 9th Luck decides to play a game of HORSE with Jimmy Irsay’s son and blows out both ACLs, MCLs, and PCLs.

    Would love to see Jimmy Ballgames “cool tweet” announcing those chain of events.

  12. wingman057 says: Feb 22, 2012 1:42 PM

    Wonder if Andrew will get Mannings jersey number and locker space?

  13. jeremycrowhurst says: Feb 22, 2012 1:43 PM

    “With owner Jim Irsay clearly concerned about the P.R. issues relating to the departure of the team’s franchise quarterback, why not get the next franchise quarterback under contract before doing so?”

    ————-

    Because the Manning-Irsay P.R. war will be won by the guy who shows his hand last.

    Because there’s value in waiting to see if any other team will make a Herschel Walker-type offer for the pick.

    Because there’s value in making other teams think that it’s at least possible that they’re willing to take RGIII, whether at the top or in the 3 or 4 slot.

    Absolutely no upside whatsoever to signing Luck before his name is called.

  14. deadeye says: Feb 22, 2012 1:43 PM

    How ironic, Manning and Luck might technically be team mates for a very brief time. Luck will certainly be signed prior to the draft.

  15. LoCoSu@%s says: Feb 22, 2012 1:45 PM

    What if someone makes the Colts an offer they couldnt refuse?
    If that resulted in them getting RGIII + a boatload of draft picks, they would be wiser to wait till the day of the draft.

  16. ingraven says: Feb 22, 2012 1:47 PM

    I am MORE than ready to be PAST this ENTIRE “Peyton Manning and Andrew Luck” thing.

  17. babyhorsemorgan says: Feb 22, 2012 1:48 PM

    They can just scratch out Peyton’s name on the cheques and put in Luck’s. Saving time, paper, and effort.

  18. ravensfan4life52 says: Feb 22, 2012 1:49 PM

    That would be a mistake. Trade the pick and get a 1st this year and next year, a 2nd this year, a third this year and next year, and a 4th this year. If you trade it to the Redskins you might still be able to get RG3 and if not you could still get Trent Richardson and for once have a real RB and you would have plenty of picks to build a real team and not just another facade. Keep Orlovsky for the short term and be patient and build a defense and a run game to hold you over until you draft a QB, or you could just redo Peyton’s deal and wait another year or two to find his replacement.

  19. rajbais says: Feb 22, 2012 1:56 PM

    It would be entertaining if the Colts cut Manning on March 8 and then signed Luck on March 9.

    Jim Irsay is nuts and could do it based on his recent track record, but he is an eye grabber!!!!

  20. rascalmanny says: Feb 22, 2012 1:56 PM

    I can’t imagine the NFL being happy about this.

    If all teams can do this what’s the point of the draft?

    If teams can sign players can they not also make trades for their pick before draft day?

    This is not good and needs to be addressed right away.

  21. whatnojets says: Feb 22, 2012 1:58 PM

    Can The Jets then sign anyone they want, like R3?

  22. purplekoolaid1 says: Feb 22, 2012 2:00 PM

    Thumbs up if you like Irsay’s rug, thumbs down if you don’t.

  23. gacoltfan says: Feb 22, 2012 2:00 PM

    If, after less than a week, he hasn’t signed the media (with this website being the biggest culprit) will be saying he isn’t signing because he is going to pull an Elway. It won’t matter that it may not be in the Colts best interest for a variety of reasons to wait to sign him.

  24. whatnojets says: Feb 22, 2012 2:01 PM

    Maybe The New York Jets would trade Mark Sanchez to the Colts for their first round pick!

  25. hawkforlife says: Feb 22, 2012 2:02 PM

    And RG III, who’s to say it’s going to be Luck?

  26. 1972wasalongtimeago says: Feb 22, 2012 2:03 PM

    Come on Dolphins fans! There’s not much time. Plant some cocaine on him (circa Marino-83). Photoshop him blowing some dude (Um….Tebow?).

    It’s desperation time people. We have to act now!!!!!!!

  27. capslockkey says: Feb 22, 2012 2:05 PM

    How come every time there’s been this “once in a lifetime” QB prospect available, the Colts somehow end up with the #1 pick. First it was Elway, then Manning, now Luck. What a bunch of BS, especially since they are only a year removed from being a division winner.

    I hope Luck pulls an another Elway. That franchise deserves it for blatantly tanking the season.

  28. profootballwalk says: Feb 22, 2012 2:06 PM

    fmlizard says:
    Feb 22, 2012 1:36 PM
    If the Colts did this, would the Rams then be on the clock to potentially do the same thing with their player of choice?
    ==========================

    No. This has come up in the past.

  29. acerockefellar says: Feb 22, 2012 2:14 PM

    Actually there is GOOD reasons to sign him before the draft.

    He will have more time to get with his new recievers

    He will have more time to start learning the playbook etc.

  30. enutpenfry says: Feb 22, 2012 2:20 PM

    There is very little to be gained by the Colts signing Luck (or RGIII) on Friday. Although everyone expects the Colts to cut Manning, it would be a P.R. nightmare if they signed Luck before making a move on Manning. By waiting, they can at least make the claim that they did everything they could to the last minute regarding Manning’s future. If they sign Luck before that, they come across as not willing to deal with Manning at all.

    Also, while the Colts are expected to use the first overall pick, there could be some team to make a very attractive offer. If the Colts sign Luck, they eliminate all possibilities.

  31. clintonportisheadd says: Feb 22, 2012 2:23 PM

    Why would the Colts sign him?

    The whole point of the draft is to lie about what you are going to do—this is to screw up everyone else and maybe forcing them into making bad choices.

    If the Colts can convince just ONE team in the NFL they are having second thoughts on Luck and are now leaning to Griffin, they have helped themselves.

  32. haileli says: Feb 22, 2012 2:24 PM

    capslockkey says: Feb 22, 2012 2:05 PM

    How come every time there’s been this “once in a lifetime” QB prospect available, the Colts somehow end up with the #1 pick. First it was Elway, then Manning, now Luck. What a bunch of BS, especially since they are only a year removed from being a division winner.

    I hope Luck pulls an another Elway. That franchise deserves it for blatantly tanking the season.

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    Do you buy your tinfoil hats or just create them yourself?

  33. hedleykow says: Feb 22, 2012 2:24 PM

    I’m liking the rookie wage scale cap already. Reading this post was almost painless, compared to five months of haggling between the GM and the player’s agent, and 379 PFT articles before a contract is ever settled.

  34. jimbo75025 says: Feb 22, 2012 2:32 PM

    capslockkey says:
    Feb 22, 2012 2:05 PM
    How come every time there’s been this “once in a lifetime” QB prospect available, the Colts somehow end up with the #1 pick. First it was Elway, then Manning, now Luck. What a bunch of BS, especially since they are only a year removed from being a division winner.

    I hope Luck pulls an another Elway. That franchise deserves it for blatantly tanking the season.

    ======================

    Dude, there is a media appointed “once in a lifetime” QB once every 2 or 3 years. Luck just happens to be the one right now.

    Waa not so long ago that JaMarcus Russell was going to revolutionize the way QB is played in the NFL. Instead, he just made succeeded in making “purple drank” something that everyone was familiar with.

  35. annes22 says: Feb 22, 2012 2:33 PM

    Everyone should be allowed to sign whoever if that’s the case. The draft is the draft, and there is a date for it. Why not keep to it??? Talk about another way of “fixing” this. Maybe there is another team who wants to trade for Luck. Mr Irsay may manage to “mess this up”.

  36. croghan1919 says: Feb 22, 2012 2:34 PM

    Hey Peyton, if Andrew is your teammate can you please explain to him what “chili, chili, chili” meant and when you used it before your exit interview?

  37. jimbo75025 says: Feb 22, 2012 2:38 PM

    To add more names to my previous post-Michael Vick, Drew Bledsoe. David Carr, Kerry Collins (I belive he went #2 though)-sure there are others and this is only from last 20 years.

    Some servicable QB’s there, but no HOF’ers by a long shot.

  38. rabidbillsfan says: Feb 22, 2012 2:39 PM

    Profootballwalk beat me to it, but no, this only applies to the owners of the #1 pick. I believe it was Jake Long that went to the Dolphins when this last came up.

  39. rabidbillsfan says: Feb 22, 2012 2:42 PM

    @clintonportishead

    What? They own the #1 pick in the draft, what are the other teams going to do, trade back to 2011? No matter which QB the Colts take, the Rams will be the true winners come draft day.

  40. bigjd says: Feb 22, 2012 2:43 PM

    After all the hype, wouldn’t it be funny if Luck turned out to be just an average pro QB?

  41. rjg427 says: Feb 22, 2012 2:47 PM

    ravensfan4life52 says:
    Feb 22, 2012 1:49 PM
    That would be a mistake. Trade the pick and get a 1st this year and next year, a 2nd this year, a third this year and next year, and a 4th this year. If you trade it to the Redskins you might still be able to get RG3 and if not you could still get Trent Richardson and for once have a real RB and you would have plenty of picks to build a real team and not just another facade. Keep Orlovsky for the short term and be patient and build a defense and a run game to hold you over until you draft a QB, or you could just redo Peyton’s deal and wait another year or two to find his replacement.

    or even better, (building on your idea), draft richardson, let peyton walk, stink it up one more year, get a high pick next year and take the better qb in Matt Barkley out of USC

  42. artbyrob says: Feb 22, 2012 2:49 PM

    This is totaly NUTS, I’m reading all these post from SO CALLED football fans, you sound like my wife who knows not the rules. DAMN! If the Colts do sign Luck or any other player before the Draft. they can but NO TEAM after them can sign anyone till the draft is done. PERIOD!!!! so called fans, what a bunch of LOSERS!!!!! LMFAO!

  43. croghan1919 says: Feb 22, 2012 2:50 PM

    I wonder if the NFL and their Network will ask the Colts to delay until draft day?
    I would think there would be a good amount of fans not tuning in if the # 1 pick was already known.
    viewers = m-o-n-e-y

  44. whatnojets says: Feb 22, 2012 2:52 PM

    Did you know that since the 1963 draft only six players chosesn number 1 overall and six players chosen number 2 overall have made it to the Hall of Fame?

  45. rooney24 says: Feb 22, 2012 2:56 PM

    If they do sign him ahead of time, then they should just announce the pick when they open the draft. There are few things more annoying than the first team already having their guy signed to a deal, and still using most or all of their 15 minutes on the clock. The draft is soooo long already. If you already have the guy signed, Goodell should already have your draft card when he walks up to open the draft.

  46. rabidbillsfan says: Feb 22, 2012 2:57 PM

    Also, here’s my problem with a “Potential” Herchel walker deal. This team is built to win with the passing game, plain and simple. Your telling me that the Colts would trade this pick to totally revamp their entire scheme? Also, when was the last time a Non-Top-5 QB won anything? 2005? However, in 2005, Ben had the very best D in the league, a whole defensive draft won’t make the Colts D that much better. Everybody also forgets that the Colts line, while excelling at Pass-Pro (at times) is a liability in the run game. So your telling me the Colts would get enough picks/players to revamp their O-Line, D-Line, and LB’s? I don’t think Indy fans will want to sit through another non-playoff campaign at the expense of hoarding picks for a scheme change. Ecspecially when they could potentially watch both Manning and Luck go on and have success in anything other than blue and white.

  47. haileli says: Feb 22, 2012 3:00 PM

    artbyrob says: Feb 22, 2012 2:49 PM

    This is totaly NUTS, I’m reading all these post from SO CALLED football fans, you sound like my wife who knows not the rules. DAMN! If the Colts do sign Luck or any other player before the Draft. they can but NO TEAM after them can sign anyone till the draft is done. PERIOD!!!! so called fans, what a bunch of LOSERS!!!!! LMFAO!
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    Well then don’t disgrace yourself by being in our presence. Leave, and never come back. Deal?

  48. paul82461 says: Feb 22, 2012 3:19 PM

    Why would you sign anyone without hearing offers from other teams? Just stupid !

  49. hawkforlife says: Feb 22, 2012 3:49 PM

    At artbyrob,

    Since we obviously can’t live up to your standards, start your own blog. I’m sure it will be a big hit.

  50. jeremycrowhurst says: Feb 22, 2012 3:58 PM

    rabidbillsfan says:Feb 22, 2012 2:57 PM

    Also, here’s my problem with a “Potential” Herchel walker deal. This team is built to win with the passing game, plain and simple. Your telling me that the Colts would trade this pick to totally revamp their entire scheme? Also, when was the last time a Non-Top-5 QB won anything? 2005?

    ———-

    Um… 2010? Aaron Rodgers? And Drew Brees the year before that, a second round pick?

  51. pickleman77 says: Feb 22, 2012 3:59 PM

    The rookie wage scale is not NEARLY as interesting as the Wookie Rage Scale, a rating of Chewbacca’s level of anger at any given moment.

  52. jgava19 says: Feb 22, 2012 4:10 PM

    Probably because they don’t want to trade out. They want Luck. Pretty simple. Plus with new rookie wage, they will be able to build a balanced team rather quickly.

  53. bigbluefan1 says: Feb 22, 2012 4:48 PM

    If I were Andy Luck I would pull an Eli

    The owner of the colts is a train wreak

    Andy see how he is treating Payton that will be one day.

  54. ravensfan4life52 says: Feb 22, 2012 5:01 PM

    @rabidbillsfan

    Let’s see. They fired their GM, their President of Operations, and their coaching staff. So yeah I think they’re up for revamping their entire scheme.

  55. geefan1 says: Feb 22, 2012 5:08 PM

    enutpenfry says:
    Feb 22, 2012 2:20 PM
    There is very little to be gained by the Colts signing Luck (or RGIII) on Friday. Although everyone expects the Colts to cut Manning, it would be a P.R. nightmare if they signed Luck before making a move on Manning.

    _____

    I disagree. In fact I think signing Luck right away ends the PR war immediately. Sign Luck Friday and then announce that you’d love to have Manning back to finish his career as a Colt, but clearly not with a $28M bonus considering that you have his successor already on the bench.

    Now he can decide to renegotiate or he can take his damaged arm and try to find someone else who’ll take a chance on him, but either way, the last move is up to him and he has until bonus day to decide.

    If he really wants to leave, you’re giving him more time before the draft to find a new home, so you’re doing him a favor.

  56. gacoltfan says: Feb 22, 2012 6:11 PM

    Um… 2010? Aaron Rodgers? And Drew Brees the year before that, a second round pick?

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    Since Elway in ’98, the only SB winning QB’s to be drafted in the top 5 are the Manning’s.

    I think he might have meant QB’s that were considered one of the 5 best in the league. Still if that is the case Rodgers wasn’t before he won, Eli certainly wasn’t in ’07 and not really this year either.

  57. mjkelly77 says: Feb 22, 2012 7:19 PM

    croghan1919 says:Feb 22, 2012 2:50 PM

    I wonder if the NFL and their Network will ask the Colts to delay until draft day?
    I would think there would be a good amount of fans not tuning in if the # 1 pick was already known. viewers = m-o-n-e-y
    _______________________

    There’s no negotiation involved so it doesn’t make sense to sign or even announce Luck as the pick until the start of the draft.

  58. naptownwarrior says: Feb 22, 2012 7:22 PM

    Welcome to LUCKianapolis! The horseshoe fits you perfectly!

  59. rabidbillsfan says: Feb 24, 2012 4:59 PM

    Maybe my “Top-5″ QB had too much emphasis. How about when the last time a Non-QB won superbowl MVP? Or when it wasn’t a clutch play by a QB that led their team to victory? Passing on Luck would be the bigest draft blunder in NFL history. This would top the Ricky Williams trade by a mile!

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