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“Limited” issues remain for Vikings stadium deal

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Late last week, the Vikings and the powers-that-be in Minnesota reached a tentative deal to build a new stadium.  On Tuesday, Governor Mark Dayton and owner Zygi Wilf said after a meeting to discuss the situation that a final deal is coming.

“There are still matters to be negotiated, particularly with the city of Minneapolis,” Dayton said, according to the St. Paul Pioneer Press.  “The number of issues that remain are limited and can be overcome if all parties are willing.”

And while the plan calls for the stadium to be built near the Metrodome, Wilf isn’t ready to slam the door on the team’s previous preference, Arden Hills.

“I’m never going to say never,” Wilf said regarding the more rural option in Arden Hills.  “We’re very close on hammering a deal right now for the Minneapolis location at [the] Metrodome.”

Even if that deal gets “hammered out,” the challenge will be to nail it down with the Legislature and the Minneapolis City Council.  Though the project finally has momentum (even though the Vikings currently have no leverage), the notion of taxpayer contribution continues to be controversial in the Twin Cities, and it’s an election year.

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  1. Carl Gerbschmidt says: Feb 22, 2012 9:57 AM

    I don’t think I’d call the Mpls City Council members being strongly opposed to spending taxpayer money on this a “limited” issue…

  2. AlanSaysYo says: Feb 22, 2012 10:20 AM

    Perhaps the citizens of Minneapolis will also expect Wilf to purchase the jaws of life necessary to open their purse strings.

  3. clintonportisheadd says: Feb 22, 2012 10:21 AM

    “Even if that deal gets “hammered out,” the challenge will be to nail it down with the Legislature and the Minneapolis City Council. Though the project finally has momentum (even though the Vikings currently have no leverage), the notion of taxpayer contribution continues to be controversial in the Twin Cities, and it’s an election year….”

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    When are these folks going to get it? “Taxpayer contribution” is the 800 lb elephant in the room. Drayton CANNOT make a deal because Drayton CANNOT overcome that elephant.

    The voters-or a highly significant percentage of them- are absolutely dead set against ANY money going to Wilf. Its the rare issue where the left (“no corporate handouts”) and the right (“no new taxes of any kind”) are in complete alignment. Any politician who values his legislative seat knows that—which is why no deal has been done nor can be done.

    Add to THAT, the posturing by the NFL and the Vikings (where they have been blackmailing the people in Minnesota with the old “build us a new free stadium or we move to X” hustle ) has made the locals angry too. Most folks don’t like having a gun put to their heads right?

    Here this Minnesota. DON’T CAVE IN! The Vikings have no where else to go. LA will not have a stadium for 3 years (in a best case scenario) and with Anshutz wanting a sweetheart deal for a piece of an incoming team it may NEVER happen.

    If the Vikings cannot be satisfied with the nice profit they now make then too bad. Move. Good luck.

  4. norseyapper says: Feb 22, 2012 10:43 AM

    Why carl, you stinky little troll, I see you stuck your head out from under the hwy. 94 bridge long enough continue your misguided fantasy about the Vikings leaving MN.
    Go back to counting your retirement fortune, those neatly printed certificates showing how much you “own” of the Green Bay Packers!

  5. gb4mn0 says: Feb 22, 2012 11:07 AM

    contra74 says:
    Feb 21, 2012 4:00 PM
    I love his commitment to return and play but Im worried he is rushing this too soon. I played football all the way up to the NCAA level and have seen the setback that ACL tears have on any athlete.
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    Where are you No.1 vikequeef fan contra74 with your acute football insight that you developed playing football “all the way up to the NCAA level? We need you to enlighten us with your extraordinary wisdom that only someone suffering from the most pronounced case of an over-inflated sense of self-importance ever witnessed by human kind could have.

  6. thankheavenfornumberseven says: Feb 22, 2012 11:36 AM

    This deal could easily be done without any new taxes, but politicians don’t wants to do anything that would lead their particular special interest groups to stop donating to their campaign coffers. How about growing a pair and do the right thing?

  7. dadawg77 says: Feb 22, 2012 11:36 AM

    Question as I don’t know this, but does Minn have a lame duck legislature session? If so this is when this gets passed, as legislators who are leaving can be bought and its at least two years before those who remain will face voters again.

  8. gb4mn0 says: Feb 22, 2012 11:39 AM

    clintonportisheadd says:
    Feb 22, 2012 10:21 AM
    The voters-or a highly significant percentage of them- are absolutely dead set against ANY money going to Wilf. Its the rare issue where the left (“no corporate handouts”) and the right (“no new taxes of any kind”) are in complete alignment. Any politician who values his legislative seat knows that—which is why no deal has been done nor can be done.

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    Here is a man that’s making a nearly inarguable point and inexplicably is being given the thumbs down by all you dim witted vikequeef dolts that are frightened by this truth. You can’t stand it when anyone brings a valid point into this issue that doesn’t march in lock step with your desires to be given what you want which is a taxpayer funded palace that you can rub in the face of the Packer fans. And damned be anyone that dares to speak against your narrow minded, witless wishes. To repeat what I’ve said before, building a new stadium for the vikes is like building a monument to stupidity.

  9. dcviking says: Feb 22, 2012 12:00 PM

    gb4mn0 says: Feb 22, 2012 11:39 AM

    clintonportisheadd says:
    Feb 22, 2012 10:21 AM
    The voters-or a highly significant percentage of them- are absolutely dead set against ANY money going to Wilf. Its the rare issue where the left (“no corporate handouts”) and the right (“no new taxes of any kind”) are in complete alignment. Any politician who values his legislative seat knows that—which is why no deal has been done nor can be done.

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    To repeat what I’ve said before, building a new stadium for the vikes is like building a monument to stupidity.

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    It stands to reason then, that the stadium will be named after you…correct?

  10. clintonportisheadd says: Feb 22, 2012 12:01 PM

    Carl Gerbschmidt says: Feb 22, 2012 9:57 AM

    I don’t think I’d call the Mpls City Council members being strongly opposed to spending taxpayer money on this a “limited” issue…

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    Its only “limited” in the same way that saying “Except for that iceberg issue the Titanic had a successful voyage”. Or perhaps, “Aside from the Booth interruption Mrs. Lincoln really really enjoyed the play”.

  11. thankheavenfornumberseven says: Feb 22, 2012 12:01 PM

    @gb4mno –

    I gave you a thumbs down just because I don’t like you.

  12. contra74 says: Feb 22, 2012 12:30 PM

    gb4mn0 says:
    Feb 22, 2012 11:07 AM
    …someone suffering from the most pronounced case of an over-inflated sense of self-importance ever witnessed by human kind could have.
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    You just described the entire Packer fanbase in one sentence. I applaud you.

  13. drbob117 says: Feb 22, 2012 12:38 PM

    Mike seems to be hung up on this “Vikings have no leverage” idea; if you think about only the 2012 season , I suppose that’s true. But the world doesn’t begin and end in September , Zygi could quietly inform Roger Goodell during the season that he is now working with LA officials ( Minneapolis fans, if you don’t like the repeated references on this board to LA, call your representative and tell him to vote ‘yes’ on the stadium) to move the team there and that if something isn’t done by December , he’s leaving. And you couldn’t blame him one bit, he gave Minnesota every chance in the world; it’s not one bit like Cleveland or Baltimore.

  14. seals1 says: Feb 22, 2012 12:51 PM

    To Carl and the rest of the GB Fans that want MN to move. Why do you want the vikings to leave so bad.

    Do you fear the vikings? Do you not like boarder rivalry with Minnesota? Are you just a loser that feels better about yourself when others are down? Do you not like the NFL Norris Division and the history that has been built?

    You Tools!

    Go Vikes

  15. gb4mn0 says: Feb 22, 2012 1:02 PM

    dc viking says:
    Feb 22, 2012 12:00 PM
    gb4mn0 says: Feb 22, 2012 11:39 AM
    To repeat what I’ve said before, building a new stadium for the vikes is like building a monument to stupidity.

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    It stands to reason then, that the stadium will be named after you…correct?

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    That would be the height of stupidity but right on par for MN.

  16. deconjonesbitchslap says: Feb 22, 2012 1:06 PM

    i wish i would have been smart enough to get into the nfl owning business. have the state build me a stadium, even though i could more than afford it. then i keep most of the revenues generated by overcharging for tickets and concessions-not to mention my real money maker: adverstising. That way , i will have no problems paying ego maniac, meatheads their incredibly high salaries, which will only drive more people to my playground. it’s like casino: people give you money for absolutely nothing in return… except delusion and a means to supplement their lackluster lives.

  17. gb4mn0 says: Feb 22, 2012 1:09 PM

    thankheavenfornumberseven says:
    Feb 22, 2012 12:01 PM
    @gb4mno –

    I gave you a thumbs down just because I don’t like you.

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    I’m grateful for that.

    How’s that man crushing thing on number seven working out for you?

  18. Carl Gerbschmidt says: Feb 22, 2012 1:31 PM

    seals1 says:Feb 22, 2012 12:51 PM

    To Carl and the rest of the GB Fans that want MN to move. Why do you want the vikings to leave so bad.

    __________

    When did I say I want the viks to move? I don’t care if they move or not, they’re not even our rivals; but I’m fine with them staying.

    I’m just saying I don’t think they are anywhere near close to having a stadium deal in place. Not sure why you’re getting so bent out of shape…

  19. bowhunter8355 says: Feb 22, 2012 1:32 PM

    Every year cities and states all over the country offer tax exemptions and incentives worth hundreds of millions of dollars to lure corporations to build or move to their community for the economic benefits they bring. This with absolutley no controversy because this is business. Right now Minnesota has the most profitable and succcessful sports “corporation” in the world in there state, a corporation that has only 32 outlets. People heve lost sight that this is a business not just sports team. The stadium will also be able to be used for other events. (Try asking a fortune 500 company if you can their factory for Monster Trucks over the weekend since you gave them tax breaks) Bottom line is that Minnesotas economy is hurting, I don’t believe the solution is letting the most successful sports corporation in the world to walk away.

  20. gb4mn0 says: Feb 22, 2012 1:32 PM

    contra74 says:
    Feb 22, 2012 12:30 PM
    gb4mn0 says:
    Feb 22, 2012 11:07 AM
    …someone suffering from the most pronounced case of an over-inflated sense of self-importance ever witnessed by human kind could have.
    ———-
    You just described the entire Packer fan base in one sentence. I applaud you.

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    That is such a weak recrimination. Only an intellectual light weight would use to a degree the “sticks and stones” taunt. I applaud your willingness to publicly display your cognitive weakness.

  21. dcviking says: Feb 22, 2012 1:56 PM

    If this attempt fails and Zygi decides he’s had enough of Minnesota, I wonder if he’d be asked to try and find another owner in Minnesota before moving the team.

    Can’t say for certain that a local owner would garner more support, but it’s also something that the Twins, T-wolves, and Wild (at least one point — not sure about now) had.

    I wonder what the reaction would be if Glen Taylor or the Polhads owned the team.

    I’m certain Zygi is under no obligation to do this, but the NFL could “strongly suggest” he do this before approving any sale / move to an L.A. based entity.

  22. ruvelligwebuike says: Feb 22, 2012 1:58 PM

    Simple solution: Change the team name.

    “Minnesota Elite and Cultured Vikings of Arts and Crafts.”

    Nothing opens up the Minnesota purse strings like an art project. Anything, ANYTHING, to seem like a more elite and cultured society. What’s that? Our infrastructure is horrible? Just pretty up the Guthrie and talk amongst ourselves about how our theatre scene blows away Broadway! Our bridges fall down? Our stadium tips over? Oh, well, let’s paint the project buildings in rainbow colors…because that shows we are open minded and more like Paris than those hick towns like Chicago.

    They could call them the Vikings for short. It’s a win-win for all.

  23. clintonportisheadd says: Feb 22, 2012 2:30 PM

    Thats actually funny ruvell—

    You forgot to add the part about the halftime show format being turned away from college marching bands and into Garrison Keillor doing 15 minutes of “News from Lake Woebegone”.

  24. thankheavenfornumberseven says: Feb 22, 2012 2:33 PM

    deconjonesbitchslap says:
    Feb 22, 2012 1:06 PM
    i wish i would have been smart enough to get into the nfl owning business. have the state build me a stadium, even though i could more than afford it. then i keep most of the revenues generated by overcharging for tickets and concessions-not to mention my real money maker: adverstising. That way , i will have no problems paying ego maniac, meatheads their incredibly high salaries, which will only drive more people to my playground. it’s like casino: people give you money for absolutely nothing in return… except delusion and a means to supplement their lackluster lives.
    ____________

    Maybe you could still get into the “nfl owning business.” Start small at first. How about first learning to use capital letters to start sentences?

  25. stavreafavre says: Feb 22, 2012 3:44 PM

    Limited issues remain…
    Just have to dot a few “i”s, cross a few “t”s, and come up with a few hundred million $.

  26. duece5 says: Feb 22, 2012 4:02 PM

    gb4mn0 says:Feb 22, 2012 1:32 PM

    contra74 says:
    Feb 22, 2012 12:30 PM
    gb4mn0 says:
    Feb 22, 2012 11:07 AM
    …someone suffering from the most pronounced case of an over-inflated sense of self-importance ever witnessed by human kind could have.
    ———-
    You just described the entire Packer fan base in one sentence. I applaud you.

    —————————————-

    That is such a weak recrimination. Only an intellectual light weight would use to a degree the “sticks and stones” taunt. I applaud your willingness to publicly display your cognitive weakness

    duece5 says:

    Yo….gb4……get a life. You and clintportis belong together…….must have nothing else to do than to add your dribble to our Vikes board.

    I know i know, PFT doesn’t have much to say about your pukes……my bad!!!!!

  27. seals1 says: Feb 22, 2012 6:08 PM

    carl,

    If the Vikes are not your rival then you must be a closet fan with how often I see and hear your name. Get out of the closet already.

    Carl- I’m not sure to laugh at you or feel sorry for you.

  28. pack13queens0 says: Feb 22, 2012 11:32 PM

    It’s an election year. No way anyone in Minnesota approves the Stadium. And most Minnesotans would rather watch the Packers (the REAL America’s Team) anyway. Vikings can’t sell out home games without a corporate buyout & their games on TV get extremely low ratings. Packer games are the highest rated show on TV in Minneapolis/St. Paul.

  29. vikingsftw says: Feb 23, 2012 12:16 AM

    thankheavenfornumberseven says: Feb 22, 2012 2:33 PM
    Maybe you could still get into the “nfl owning business.” Start small at first. How about first learning to use capital letters to start sentences?
    ————
    Ha Ha ha Brilliant! i red all that post: and i though how stupid….rambling mess of words and random punctuation: he could never be in the….NFL owner business..

  30. Dogsweat says: Feb 23, 2012 4:51 PM

    zzzzzz………

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