More changes may be coming on overtime, replay

AP

A year after the NFL adopted changes to playoff overtime and the use of instant replay, more changes on those fronts may be coming.

The NFL Competition Committee is considering proposals to make overtime uniform throughout the year — rather than having a different overtime format for the postseason — and to make turnovers automatically reviewable, as scoring plays are now.

Last year the NFL changed playoff overtime so that the team receiving the opening kickoff couldn’t win on a field goal on its first possession. The NFL could decide to adopt that rule for the regular season as well, although there has been resistance in some quarters to any rule that could make the game longer, which this rule could.

And last year the NFL changed the instant replay rules so that all scoring plays were automatically reviewed, rather than subject to a coach’s challenge. The Competition Committee will look into expanding that rule so that all turnovers are also automatically reviewed.

Any recommendations from the Competition Committee will be voted on by all 32 teams at a meeting of the league’s owners.

48 responses to “More changes may be coming on overtime, replay

  1. What about the inclusion of plays that weren’t called a TD, but may actually be a TD? It is stupid not to include these plays.

  2. How about you take away the challenge flags and just have the booth official buzz the ref whenever a “questionable” call/action happens? Be it a spot of the ball, reception, TD, turnover, etc.

  3. Could all these changes to ensure the calls are right be part of an effort to move towards legalizing gambling? That is one area the league hasn’t expanded to yet and there are increasingly fewer opportunities to expand the button line.

  4. Overtime in the NFL should always be sudden death. If they want to change it, change it back to that. Forget his everyone-gets-a-trophy nonsense they utilize now.

  5. How about always reviewing plays that could be overturned to become a scoring play. Like a play where the ruling is to spot the ball on the “1 inch” line.

  6. I don’t like the 2 proposed rules. The TD rule took forever, I was cool with it because it was scoring rule. Turnovers happen all the time it’s up to the team whether they challenge. Regular season doesn’t need to change OT rules

  7. It always bugs me when people complain about how reviews make the game longer. First of all, you’re watching a football game. You got somewhere else to be? Something more important to do? No, so sit there and enjoy it. Secondly, I don’t know about you but I’d rather watch a 3 1/2 hour game that is fair and has all the correct calls than a 2 1/2 hour game that is questionable.

  8. Why would you make it a permanent rule when it has never been used, and was a complete mistake in the first place?

    It’s a proven fact that the coin toss is irrelevant in determining the outcome in OT games.

  9. Can they find a way to get rid of rubes who watch the replay but still get it wrong and bitch about the call?

    “He was totally in!” His elbow was down, it was down!!” Pffft

  10. And off topic but, how is the Lambeau Leap not considered excessive celebration? Vernon Davis got a penalty for jumping on top of a platform. But whenever a Packer scores, they jump INTO THE STANDS.

  11. I’m in favor of both of these proposed changes. Since turnovers often decide the outcome of a game, I think its important that the officials get the call right. It also makes sense for overtime rules to be the same for both regular season and post season…..and in my opinion, that would include having no game end in a tie.

  12. bigdan7885 says:
    Feb 24, 2012 11:46 AM
    And off topic but, how is the Lambeau Leap not considered excessive celebration? Vernon Davis got a penalty for jumping on top of a platform. But whenever a Packer scores, they jump INTO THE STANDS.
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    If this is your first observation of Packer bias…you need to pay attention more!

  13. So first coaches stopped having to use challenges on scoring plays, now they might have to stop using them on turnovers… why don’t they just make all plays over 10 yards automatically reviewable at this point?

    There won’t be any strategy to saving your challenges if the coaches don’t have to worry about challenging the game-changing plays, and then we’re stuck waiting for all these obvious plays to be reviewed, lame.

  14. Hey NFL, can you please make it as difficult as possible to explain the modern game of NFL football to my wife? K Thanks.

  15. While they are at it they need to kick the video review to a guy upstairs. We have to wait 2 minutes for the official to get to the video review thing. Would make it much quicker and smoother.. And if you think it won;t work I would provide College Football as an example that it does. As well as the NHL, heck the NHL is able to call all the way to Toronto to have someone look at it and make a decision much less time than the NFL takes. Technology is an awesome thing.

  16. bigdan7885 the lambeau leap was grand fathered into the rule. so it is legal. complete bs in my opinion. if you are gonna do that for 1 team you should be doing it for every team.

    definitely like the fumble being an auto replay rule.

    don’t see the necessity of having 2 different rules for ot

  17. bigdan7885 says: Feb 24, 2012 11:46 AM

    And off topic but, how is the Lambeau Leap not considered excessive celebration? Vernon Davis got a penalty for jumping on top of a platform. But whenever a Packer scores, they jump INTO THE STANDS.
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    Because that celebration was grandfathered in when the rules were changed. Had Davis jumped into the crowd, no penalty.

  18. Why can’t they just use logic and solve this easily once and for all? The first team to score 6 points in OT wins. Simple. Either 2 FGs or 1 TD…(or 3 safeties…) Same rules for regular and postseason. And NO ties…f&% ties!

  19. PLEASE get rid of excessive celebration penalties on touchdowns. Can anyone honestly say they didn’t love Stevie Johnson’s dance when he shot himself in the leg? These celebrations bring more publicity to the league and are entertaining and fun.

    At the very least be consistent…why should the Pack be able to have a great TD celebration but the Niners are flagged 15 yards in a playoff game when Vernon Davis stands on a camera booth? That’s just not fair.

  20. @orbearider66 says: Feb 24, 2012 11:33 AM

    Good start … now please make personal foul calls reviewable and change pass interference to a 15 yard penalty.

    Changing the rule to a 15 yard penalty on pass interference is ridiculous. What if a team is down by 5pts. with under a minute with 80 yards to go and a WR beats a corner for a sure TD on a fly pattern. Instead of the ball being at the (let’s say) opponents 10 yard line because that’s where the foul occurred, it’s instead on your 35 because of the rule change. Every CB on earth would just molest the receiver every time on a play like that.

  21. @orbearider66 says: Feb 24, 2012 11:33 AM

    Good start … now please make personal foul calls reviewable and change pass interference to a 15 yard penalty.
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    Changing the rule to a 15 yard penalty on pass interference is ridiculous. What if a team is down by 5pts. with under a minute with 80 yards to go and a WR beats a corner for a sure TD on a fly pattern. Instead of the ball being at the (let’s say) opponents 10 yard line because that’s where the foul occurred, it’s instead on your 35 because of the rule change. Every CB on earth would just molest the receiver every time on a play like that.

  22. The Packers aren’t the only ones who jump in the stands… most teams have had multiple players jump in the stands after TD’s and not get flagged. I think th ey let it slide because it involves the fans and generates expiriences lucky fans will never forget…

  23. Chuck Knox, when he was with the Seahawks, used to say the solution to instant replay was to have three couch potatoes up on the booth who would push the yes or no button on questionable calls. If not unanimous, majority rules.

    But, that just makes sense, so it will never happen.

  24. @ chiadam

    Feb 24, 2012 11:39 AM
    Overtime in the NFL should always be sudden death. If they want to change it, change it back to that. Forget his everyone-gets-a-trophy nonsense they utilize now.

    __________________________________

    Rules are an attempt to make sure both teams are treated the same and have the same opportunities.
    How does a coin toss accomplish that objective?

    Perhaps you also think the second half choice should be determined by a coin toss???

    If anything, I would suggest that the overtime rule be extended to apply to touchdowns and not just fieldgoals. It seems that would more truly accomplish the objective of fairness to each team.

  25. I forgot to also say that just because the history of scoring is close to 50%, does not mean that in each particular case, a coin toss is fair to the team that lost the toss.

  26. nineroutsider, you are 100% right!!!

    Why do you think they moved Kickoffs up?
    If you’ve noticed, they cram in a few commercials during Touchbacks…..also, during reviews, they show us a couple replays, go to commercial and then come back with the result. So, they are just trying to add more reviews…..for more commercials (I mean MONEY).

  27. The lambeau leap is NOT just allowed at Lambeau. Any player on any team in any nfl stadium can do a lambeau leap and not be flagged. It is not something that only the pack can get away with at lambeau. But in the end the pack still sux.

  28. Everyone is missing the clever scheme behind this proposition by the NFL: The longer the games are the more ADVERTISING REVENUE they can generate. CASE CLOSED

  29. Some teams win because they have a good offense. Others win because they have a good defense. So sudden death will many times put one team at a distinct disadvantage. Let both teams have an opportunity to have their defense and offense on the field it OT – it is that simple.

    Review all plays that could have resulted in a score. No matter what it was ruled on the field.

    Why set a limit to how many times a coach can call out a ref for making a bad call. As it stands now after the 3rd time a ref is caught making a mistake he has a free ticket to blow as many calls as he wants the rest of the game….that is not right. Fix it!

  30. The reason this is so interesting to me, is that if these rules were in effect this year, we’d have the Niners vs. the Ravens in the Superbowl.

    The NFL has lots of rules that are odd and not executed well by part-time officials in the first place. And for the guys who love the “human” aspect of the game, you’ll still get that. The official under the hood still guesses sometimes and still give the cheeseheads calls they don’t deserve. Just look at the game against the Giants in the playoffs, still not sure how the Giants won 11 v 13. 🙂

  31. And while they’re at it, why not make every QB sack automatically reviewable? Time is, after all, BIG money in the world of NFL TV contracts.

    They could also make every penalty an automatic TV timeout, then mandate that only local car dealerships can use the commercial time for those, because that would make the sure-to-be-5-hour-games SO much more fun to watch…

  32. When a referee misses a blatant facemask that should be reviewable. It’s ridiculous that something that is completely objective as grabbing a facemask isn’t subject to review.

    I remember a handful of games last year where blatant facemasks were missed that would have changed the game if they were called.

  33. Let’s not give 40Whiner fans and their coach even more reasons to complain about conspiracies.

    Games are becoming less about the action and more about the rules/refs. When their teams aren’t good enough, this is what the fans focus on. And it becomes a shrill discourse.

    Stop meddling and play football.

  34. Well it got kind of stupid with the replay on scoring plays I mean there are some plays that leave no question whatsoever but yet the extra point was held up while officials reviewed it…come on now not every scoring play needs reviewing…only those where both feet are in play on the sides and back of the endzone and those to see if a runner actually crossed the goal line…

  35. NFL sudden death OT is the most exciting football there is. They need to just get rid of the new playoff rule and put it all back to sudden death.

  36. Why do they even have refs anymore? If they’re going to do all this, then get rid of them. I for one love the human error of the game and hate instant replay.

  37. for OT, I know people think its fair for both teams to get a chance with the ball, but that’s not really the case with the current OT rules. if you want fair, then if one team gets a TD, then the other team should still get a chance on offense–just like FGs.

    I still prefer sudden death in OT. If the Broncos had marched down the field and kicked a FG in our playoff game, I would have wanted the game to end there. More point should win the game–no matter a FG or TD.

  38. @ Buffbacker – the reason this isn’t a good idea is because the league has their biases. Any call that doesn’t go the Steelers or Packers way will be reviewed while other more unestablished teams will be waiting for the buzz from upstairs and will never get it. League needs to stop playing favorites in the review booth.

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