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Rams see three windows to trade No. 2 pick

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NFL teams usually pretend that they aren’t set on trading out of a certain draft position; just that they are “open” to making a move.

The Rams don’t seem interested in playing this game. They don’t need to play games; they know how much interest Robert Griffin III will attract.

SI.com’s Peter King talked to Rams COO Kevin Demoff; King left the conversation writing that the Rams will trade the pick “for sure” in King’s words. The question: When will the trade happen?

Demoff points to three windows: Before free agency, at the late March league meetings, and in the few days before the draft.

The third option is the most likely. Teams usually don’t put all their cards on the table until the last minute. Then again, Demoff’s words may be a strong signal from the Rams that they’d love seriously consider aggressive offers early in the bidding.  (And why not? The price will only go up.)

“You can’t tell what the musical chairs will do,” said Demoff  in MMQB about the post free agency period. “Maybe someone will get left out and need Griffin. You don’t know.”

The risk for the Rams is that teams that sign Peyton Manning and Matt Flynn will no longer need a quarterback. The Rams need at least two teams dying to move up for Griffin to get the best deal possible.

Based on Griffin’s immense talent and character, we don’t think that will be a problem for Demoff and the Rams.

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62 Responses to “Rams see three windows to trade No. 2 pick”
  1. bigjdve says: Feb 27, 2012 11:25 AM

    It should be interesting to see what they are able to get for it.

    I hope whoever ends up with it gets their money’s worth out of it.

  2. haileli says: Feb 27, 2012 11:29 AM

    If the Colts sign early, wait. And wait. And wait. Don’t let anyone feel comfortable. Make GMs lose sleep over whether or not they’re going to get him. This increases the chances of a panic move exponentially. There is little doubt that the Rams will trade out of the pick, so I don’t see the point in doing it until they have to.

  3. jimmymcnultysbottleofjameson says: Feb 27, 2012 11:32 AM

    Dan Snyder will dump everything to get this guy.

  4. sportsmeccabi says: Feb 27, 2012 11:32 AM

    All they want is three windows?

  5. willycents says: Feb 27, 2012 11:34 AM

    And with the second pick, acquired from St Louis, the Denver Broncos select Jamarcus Russell from Texas to compete with Tim Tebow for the QB positition………Oh….wait

  6. ingraven says: Feb 27, 2012 11:37 AM

    it must SUCK to consistently be picking in the Top 5 year after year after year….

  7. dawglbfan says: Feb 27, 2012 11:38 AM

    The Rams may hold the pick but the Browns have the leverage. The Rams don’t want to lose out on Blackmon or Kalil which they will if they trade with anyone else other than Cleveland.

  8. myspaceyourface says: Feb 27, 2012 11:40 AM

    He’s a heck of an athlete. Time will tell if He is a heck of an NFL QB.

  9. griffnjnc says: Feb 27, 2012 11:42 AM

    Philadelphia Eagles

  10. dawglbfan says: Feb 27, 2012 11:43 AM

    My thought is the Browns give them the 4th pick and their second rounder in this and next years draft. Lets remember they are only moving up two spots. If Miami and the Redskins go the free agent route deal is off and Griffin will fall to the Browns at 4.

  11. karlpilkington says: Feb 27, 2012 11:44 AM

    Skins will swap first rounders, this year a 2nd and 3rd and next years first. It sounds like alot but as a skins fan we need to pull the trigger, we need a big time qb and from what all the talking heads are saying RGIII is big time… The skins do need more playmakers and I hope being so far under the cap we can solve some of these problems with some fa’s. Please Mr. Shanhan get this right I have been waiting a long time to cheer for a winner and have had to stick up for the team when they suck year after year. GET IT RIGHT FOR US DIEHARDS!!!!

  12. We'reFineThere says: Feb 27, 2012 11:44 AM

    The window is the 10 minutes before Pick 3 is on the clock.

  13. lolb23 says: Feb 27, 2012 11:45 AM

    If Rams pass on protecting Bradford with Kalil they’ll regret for the next decade.

  14. eaglesw00t says: Feb 27, 2012 11:47 AM

    Good position for the Rams to be in.

    Hopefully, they have a couple of first to play with, and can start becoming a respectable opponent again. In all honesty, I hate playing teams that are dreadful.

    I would much rather go into Sunday, knowing that we will be facing a tough game, and looking forward to it, instead of thinking its a guaranteed W.

  15. FinFan68 says: Feb 27, 2012 11:48 AM

    I think Cleveland is in the driver’s seat to move up. They have 2 first round picks this year to play with and the Rams would only drop 2 slots (and still get the guy they really want). The Redskins will likely want to move up from 6 and the Dolphins from 8. There are other possibilities but these are the three most likely. The Dolphins would be at a severe disadvantage because they likely discussed some draft/player strategy with Fisher while trying to convince him to come to Miami. He likely knows exactly what their best offer would be. Flynn/Manning will determine what happens with RGIII. If Flynn/Manning go to different teams and the Browns trade up for RGIII. Picks 3 and 5 are going to be pretty valuable to the phins/skins. Neither team wants to be without a chair when the music stops and if Tannehill is the best one left it will get interesting.

  16. eaglesw00t says: Feb 27, 2012 11:51 AM

    dawglbfan says:
    Feb 27, 2012 11:43 AM
    My thought is the Browns give them the 4th pick and their second rounder in this and next years draft. Lets remember they are only moving up two spots. If Miami and the Redskins go the free agent route deal is off and Griffin will fall to the Browns at 4.

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    Look at the numbers on b0th draft value charts.

    #4 and a second isnt even close to getting it done. Thats why teams RARELY ever trade up from later than #10 to get into the top 3. It costs waaaay too much

  17. cannonballdookie says: Feb 27, 2012 11:52 AM

    I think some people are going to be disappointed with what happens this off-season and draft. Every year, we see a team who is a logical pick to trade down, but it takes two to tango. There could be good fits this year but ultimately the team wants too much and they just stay at their spot.

    Also, I don’t see anything happening with RFA’s. There is always talk about it but first round picks are more valuable than ever with their cheaper contracts. It’s very hard to give up that kind of cost control even if you are getting a great player back. Nothing beats getting a guy from scratch and tailoring him to your system.

    Just stating observations here, these things can be happen and I could be wrong but I’m personally not counting on it.

  18. beavertonsteve says: Feb 27, 2012 11:56 AM

    it must SUCK to consistently be picking in the Top 5 year after year after year….

    _________________________________

    It sucks during the season, but at least you enjoy the run up to the draft. and they did pick 14th last year… still sucked though.

  19. jakek2 says: Feb 27, 2012 11:57 AM

    We’reFineThere says:
    Feb 27, 2012 11:44 AM
    The window is the 10 minutes before Pick 3 is on the clock.
    ————-
    That is window #4. Window #5, Rams and team “x” do what the Giants and Chargers did. Rams will work out a “trade” before the draft, select Griffin and then consummate the trade with “x” after they made their pick.

  20. dryzzt23 says: Feb 27, 2012 11:58 AM

    I hope that the Colts pay Manning and keep him. This will cause 3 teams to join the RG3 derby, thus driving up the costs even more.

    Irsay has already said that the Colts could afford to have both Manning and Luck.

  21. vegaskid21 says: Feb 27, 2012 11:59 AM

    Instead of trading their 2nd pick, they should see what they can get for Bradford.

  22. beavertonsteve says: Feb 27, 2012 11:59 AM

    Lets remember they are only moving up two spots.
    ______________________________

    By that logic it should be easy just to move one more spot and pick Luck then! It’s not just how many spots you want to move it’s how much teams value the spot.

  23. hendawg21 says: Feb 27, 2012 12:06 PM

    Oh so they are baiting teams in order to start a bidding war in the hopes someone will overpay…I like RGIII however, I don’t know if i’d mortgage the farm to get him as those draft picks can be used to fill other needs…As for the Skins picking at 6 i’d think 2 first round picks should be enough. The league needs to rethink these draft positions as no player is guaranteed success and teams are mortgaging their future because of flawed trade value system…

  24. norcalcane6 says: Feb 27, 2012 12:09 PM

    Watch out for the Eagles – This years #1,2,4,6, next years 1, DJax, and Asante Samuel will get it done.

  25. citizenstrange says: Feb 27, 2012 12:10 PM

    He’s sure look good in Black and Gold!!!

    Mike Wallace and the Steelers first round pick for R.G. III

  26. zonon85 says: Feb 27, 2012 12:16 PM

    I think the Rams should take Griffin. He seems to be the best player left in the draft (if not the best). When the league goes to an 18 game schedule you will need two quality QB’s and the possibilities are endless both on and off the field if you have both of them. With that said, if they go ahead and say they are taking RGIII they might get a last minute offer they can’t refuse…If they keep him and he turns out to be the next Cam Newton it changes their entire world. I have been a Carolina fan since the beginning so I know how that feels…

  27. 3yardsndust says: Feb 27, 2012 12:20 PM

    If the Rams trade down to 4, say goodbye to Kalil. The Vikings need a LT badly, and Kalil is the best in the draft. As tempting as it may be to take the extra picks, Kalil is an all-pro that will give them a decade or more of sound protection.

  28. therealsmiley says: Feb 27, 2012 12:21 PM

    The longer the Rams wait the less they’ll get. Plus…trading that many picks for one player is waaay too risky. Browns just need to sit tight and see who signs Flynn, Manning or Orton. If Miami signs anyone (I’m assuming Flynn)…the Rams are screwed. In that scenario, it’s betweeen Cleveland and the Redskins….and both teams know it. Rams lose a lot of leverage because of Sam Bradford, you’re not going to draft RGIII, and unless Bradford is on the trading block we know you don’t want RGIII. Redskins will not give up a ton of picks to move up…way too many holes to fill. Who blinks first? Hail!

  29. jenniferxxx says: Feb 27, 2012 12:22 PM

    It’s very funny to read all the proposed trades on fan sites to get that #2 slot for RG3. Packaging up garbage and worthless picks. Total fantasy.

  30. AlohaMrHand says: Feb 27, 2012 12:23 PM

    The windows to move to LA are there as well.

  31. therealsmiley says: Feb 27, 2012 12:24 PM

    P.S. No one is going to trade with the Rams before free agency. It’s a buyers market and less buyers (less interest) will reduce your leverage on your asking price. Especially if said buyers KNOW you have to sell.

  32. chocolatebaconbutter says: Feb 27, 2012 12:25 PM

    The thing I’m most excited about the season starting again is not having to hear about the Browns and the Skins anymore.

  33. coonsqualler says: Feb 27, 2012 12:34 PM

    Ok Heard it hear first! Colts take R.G. III. Rams pick Luck and trade Bradford to Cleveland for the #4 pick. Rams get Blackmon and Browns get franchise QB they need and still have the 22nd pick for a #1 receiver. Everyone wins (except Skins)….Just Sayin’ …Go Brownies!!

  34. gmen1987 says: Feb 27, 2012 12:36 PM

    dawglbfan says:
    Feb 27, 2012 11:43 AM
    My thought is the Browns give them the 4th pick and their second rounder in this and next years draft. Lets remember they are only moving up two spots. If Miami and the Redskins go the free agent route deal is off and Griffin will fall to the Browns at 4.

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    Rams want picks and players for this year, not next. If Cleveland wants to move up, they are going to have to surrender both 1st round draft picks this year.

  35. gmen1987 says: Feb 27, 2012 12:37 PM

    citizenstrange says:
    Feb 27, 2012 12:10 PM
    He’s sure look good in Black and Gold!!!

    Mike Wallace and the Steelers first round pick for R.G. III

    ===================================Get off the drugs, Goobs.

  36. gmen1987 says: Feb 27, 2012 12:39 PM

    norcalcane6 says:
    Feb 27, 2012 12:09 PM
    Watch out for the Eagles – This years #1,2,4,6, next years 1, DJax, and Asante Samuel will get it done.
    ————————————————-
    Got going to happen, Goobs. Eagles are picking too old, have Ron Mexico, and Asante Samuel is too old.

  37. bigjd says: Feb 27, 2012 12:43 PM

    You can’t give up too much. There’s already two good QB’s in next years draft. There’s no such thing as a can’t miss pick.

  38. cannonballdookie says: Feb 27, 2012 12:47 PM

    It would be funny if the Rams are trolling everyone and just take RGIII with the second pick. Not a fit but I’m willing to say he’ll be much better than Bradford who really didn’t impress me a ton in his rookie season either. Even though it will set the team back big time, if they get rid of Bradford and Jason Smith who are probably counting for around 30M towards the cap, that will go a long way towards building a competitive team quickly. Too drastic to do something like that though.

  39. th56 says: Feb 27, 2012 1:14 PM

    RGIII will not be there at #4. If the Rams do pass on him and not make a trade, word is the Vikings will grab him.

  40. fwippel says: Feb 27, 2012 1:17 PM

    For the Rams sake, I sure hope Sam Bradford has a great career.

  41. tropboi11 says: Feb 27, 2012 1:19 PM

    The most reasonable thing to do is exactly what most of you already know, they will trade with Cleveland for their 1st and 2nd picks and maybe a #2 pick next year, the Rams wont miss out on Kalil or Blackmon

  42. ramdave says: Feb 27, 2012 1:21 PM

    Dont forget there are at least eight teams that should be in the running for rg3 the bidding will contiune to go up

  43. zn0rseman says: Feb 27, 2012 1:21 PM

    The Rams are in a tough spot. Traded own and lose Kahil to the Vikings, or draft Kahil and let Minnesota have the extra picks that will surely come from the team that wants Griffin.

    Either way, I’ll be happy seeing this draft pan out.

    That said, I’m still not convinced Griffin is all that and a bag of chips like the media is portraying. They were showing the list of top 10 40 times for QB’s in the combine, and it was a dismal group of flops. So while Griffin is saying all of the right things, what he hasnt shown (throwing accuracy) happens to be his biggest question mark, and I’m afraid it will be his undoing. We’ll know in a few years whether that is the case.

  44. 1phd says: Feb 27, 2012 1:22 PM

    RG III > Bradford. Just sayin’.

  45. blaz0037 says: Feb 27, 2012 1:24 PM

    RGIII = Troy Smith

  46. kayakattack says: Feb 27, 2012 1:25 PM

    If they want Blackmon or Khalil, they better pick them at 2 because they both won’t be there otherwise…

  47. blaz0037 says: Feb 27, 2012 1:26 PM

    The windows to move to LA are there as well

    ———————————————

    Get over yourself. CA has 15 professional sports franchises. Plus they have tried….and failed…..TWICE. I think that is enough.

  48. wwwfella says: Feb 27, 2012 1:40 PM

    it all depends on flynn and manning. im not entirely sure that the browns who could add a top notch wr and rb to give mccoy some much needed help will even trade for rg3

  49. ramdave says: Feb 27, 2012 1:48 PM

    Browns fans you are going to somn
    eday fix your qb problems just do it now rip the band-aid off and do the deal

  50. oldcracker says: Feb 27, 2012 2:10 PM

    Check out Heckert’s past drafts. There is a reason Big Mike calls him, “His used car salesman.”

    I don’t believe Heckert is dumb enough to give up 2 first round picks (plus more) to get another QB to learn the WC offense. They still don’t know what they have with Colt.

    Colt has had 2 different offense schemes, 2 different head coaches, 2 different OC’s with Childress being a 3rd (and not calling the plays).

    Colt didn’t do too badly in college…just like RG3. Give the kid (Colt) a legitimite chance to prove what he can do.

    We have plenty of holes to fill with those draft picks. If anything, I see Heckert picking up more picks.

  51. promickey says: Feb 27, 2012 2:15 PM

    Jeff Fisher now HC of the Rams played the same game with the Miami Dolphins when he was interviewing for the Dolphins HC job. I hope the Dolphins have the good sense not to get into a bidding war, which would amount to giving up many draft choices. The Dolphins have to many position needs to get into a bidding war for Griffin’s services. There is a risk to Fisher and the Rams that the teams in need of a QB get what they want in free agency and the draft without giving up what Fisher and the Rams want; many draft picks.

    Dolphins should tell Fisher and the Rams, “Keep both Bradford and Griffin for good luck”

  52. BrownsTown says: Feb 27, 2012 2:20 PM

    Holmgren would probably bite on a trade for Sam Bradford if the Rams were serious about getting rid of him. In 2010, he would have given up most of the draft for SB. Given SB’s contract and injury history, I would try to move him also.

    Be that as it may, Matt Flynn is the latest apple in the Big Show’s eye. Unless they make him some utterly huge or outrageous offer, Flynn will not sign with the Browns. Plan B is RT I > RGIII. Tannehill is definitely on their radar and the Fatman will pull the trigger if the price is right. It would not shock me if they took Tannehill at 4. Colt McCowpoke will make a nice back-up.

  53. bullcharger says: Feb 27, 2012 2:27 PM

    The Rams should trade for a few first round picks and then trade those again. They need several good quality guys (2nd or 3rd rounders) more than they need elite first round players.

  54. ramitbaby says: Feb 27, 2012 2:31 PM

    Peter King tweeted last night that the Redskins giving the Rams their first four picks and next year’s #1 “might not be enough”.

  55. plumbstupid says: Feb 27, 2012 2:40 PM

    norcalcane6 says:
    Feb 27, 2012 12:09 PM
    Watch out for the Eagles – This years #1,2,4,6, next years 1, DJax, and Asante Samuel will get it done.

    ————————————————–

    I hope that is sarcasm. The Eagles value their draft picks way too much to ever let that happen. Plus, Andy needs to win now – not build for the future.

  56. 0sakpo says: Feb 27, 2012 2:51 PM

    Flynn to Brown. Manning to Miami.
    Indi after see how great RGIII at the combine decided to go wit him.
    Redskins moved to 2 get A LUCK and rams get our 2 1st picks this n next year…..
    WIN WIN WIN FOR EVERYBODY!!!!!
    HAPPY NOW PEOPLE!!!!!

  57. theandy59 says: Feb 27, 2012 3:16 PM

    Hey znoresman, how much more accurate do you want than a 72.4% completion percentage? This is precisely the reason why Griffin is such a compelling player – unlike the other guys you are comparing him to, Griffin is a gifted passer, with accuracy, sound decision making, and flawless mechanics. Who knows whether he’ll become a great NFL QB, but to suggest that he isn’t accurate – well, it’s obvious that you don’t know who you’re talking about.

  58. eyesofjustice says: Feb 27, 2012 4:05 PM

    Anyone that claims Robert Griffin doesn’t have down field accuracy obviously hasn’t watched a live game. Highlights are deceiving… you’ve got to watch the game man!!! C’mon! Quit basing your “expert” opinion on ESPN and the talking heads. This young man is the REAL DEAL!!! Write it down… take a picture… I don’t give a…

  59. gmen1987 says: Feb 27, 2012 4:06 PM

    oldcracker says:
    Feb 27, 2012 2:10 PM
    Check out Heckert’s past drafts. There is a reason Big Mike calls him, “His used car salesman.”

    I don’t believe Heckert is dumb enough to give up 2 first round picks (plus more) to get another QB to learn the WC offense. They still don’t know what they have with Colt.

    Colt has had 2 different offense schemes, 2 different head coaches, 2 different OC’s with Childress being a 3rd (and not calling the plays).

    Colt didn’t do too badly in college…just like RG3. Give the kid (Colt) a legitimite chance to prove what he can do.

    We have plenty of holes to fill with those draft picks. If anything, I see Heckert picking up more picks.

    ==================================
    Goobs, Colt has a candy arm. Not a good thing to have in Cleveland for November, December, and beyong. Plus Colt is coming off a serious concussion. Put the fangirlism aside and realize Colt is not an quality NFL starting QB, especially in a cold city that plays outdoor.

  60. rosloe62 says: Feb 27, 2012 4:25 PM

    RGIII will be better at first than Luck. Cleveland who needs a QB is crazy not to trade up and get him. It may come at a high price, but a few of the picks were from the Falcons. If the Redskins beat out the Browns for RGIII, it will be a short career for Holmgren and company! The Browns can hold out all they want and then watch RGIII light it up for the Skins.

  61. iced107 says: Feb 27, 2012 4:26 PM

    @ everyone saying the Rams will draft Kalil.

    Sincerely doubt it. They have Saffold at LT (2nd round pick from ’10) and have decided to keep Smith at RT for another season.

    The real culprit of the Rams o-line playing terrible is the o-line coach they had since ’07. Steve loney is absolutely terrible.

    With Bordeau leaving Atlanta and coming back to STL, I expect much better play out of the line.

    I like blackmon, but I wouldn’t be upset with Stephen Hill either.. 6’4, 215, ran a 4.3 flat…

  62. gabe77 says: Feb 27, 2012 4:58 PM

    Already some stories that the Eagles could be in the mix after meeting with RGIII at the combine and that it would secure several more years as head coach for Andy Reid. If they do it, I could see them doing it “early”, before draft day and I’d predict April 5th or 9th as the day it goes down.

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