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Raiders have to dump plenty of salary

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In two weeks, each team must be in compliance with the 2012 salary cap, whatever that number may be.  In the offseason, cap compliance is based on the cap numbers of the 51 highest-paid players on the roster.

The Raiders may have to dump more than a few of their top 51 in order to get under the cap.

Based on the “top 51″ report for each team as of February 28, a copy of which PFT has obtained, the Raiders stand at $145.7 million.  That’s more than $16 million more than the next team, the Giants.

The full list can be seen here.

If the 2012 cap lands at $120 million and based on the availability of $3.23 million in 2011 cap space that can be carried over, the Raiders still must clear more than $22 million in the next two weeks.

At the other end of the spectrum are the Bengals, who have only $83.5 million in commitments for 2012.  The Buccaneers, Titans, Redskins, and Broncos also are under $100 million.

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  1. thraiderskin says: Feb 28, 2012 11:34 PM

    you have got to be kidding me! I knew it might be bad, but 22 Million? Wow!

  2. azjahwkr says: Feb 28, 2012 11:36 PM

    Wow…over the cap, have to dump good palayers and loss of draft picks for noodle arm. This is going to be fun watching this train wreck

  3. asublimeday says: Feb 28, 2012 11:37 PM

    Bears add Mario Williams. Book it.

  4. azheat says: Feb 28, 2012 11:44 PM

    Nice…now that they dumped all of their draft picks for Carson. Whose gonna play for them?

    The Raiders are looking like real contenders…lol

  5. anhdazman says: Feb 28, 2012 11:45 PM

    The new GM has got to correct this problem. It might take a few years, but all these silly bloated contracts for marginal players must stop. Routt has been cut and players with bloated contracts like Wimbley must restructure or cut. No way Wimbley should be making close to 10 million a year.

  6. Nikhil Balakumar says: Feb 28, 2012 11:50 PM

    get spending tennessee

  7. ridiculousjaws says: Feb 28, 2012 11:58 PM

    Dump the owner

  8. brianbosworthisstonecold says: Feb 29, 2012 12:00 AM

    There’s enough dumps on the field in Oakland, it smells like a cesspool.

  9. Stiller43 says: Feb 29, 2012 12:01 AM

    So the steelers are already at the cap and they havent cut players like kemoeatu, ward, john scott, hamtpon, farrior, or aaron smith? Sounds good!

  10. cincybert says: Feb 29, 2012 12:04 AM

    The Carson Palmer trade: the gift that just keeps on giving for the Bengals. Thanks for taking the cap hit on that one Oakland. Of course, the Raiders can choose to look on the bright side, at least they won’t have to worry about spending any money on a first round draft pick this year.

  11. prideandpoise says: Feb 29, 2012 12:06 AM

    No big deal. They will restructure guys like Carson Palmer, Kamerion Wimbley, and Tommy Kelly among others. Bush leaves as a FA and they back load a long term deal for Tyvon Branch.

  12. nflofficeadmin says: Feb 29, 2012 12:27 AM

    Carson needs to take a reduced salary given what the team has given for him, it’s time to give back.

  13. ninerdynasty says: Feb 29, 2012 12:38 AM

    prideandpoise says: Feb 29, 2012 12:06 AM

    No big deal. They will restructure guys like Carson Palmer, Kamerion Wimbley, and Tommy Kelly among others. Bush leaves as a FA and they back load a long term deal for Tyvon Branch.
    ————————————————

    You make it sound like the team has the only say on re-structured contracts.. What makes you think that ALL those players will agree to do that just to stay in a team that is deep in a hole.

  14. onderin says: Feb 29, 2012 12:38 AM

    It really is not a big deal. The Raiders, as well as other teams in the same position, find ways to deal with the cap in time. They renegotiate contracts, dump certain players and do whatever they need to to be in compliance. And they always have enough cap to make moves (maybe not the right ones though).

    Calm down.

  15. riverhorsey says: Feb 29, 2012 12:52 AM

    something funny going on with the “potential” cap space.

  16. raiderrob21 says: Feb 29, 2012 1:01 AM

    You rookies act like this is the 1st time youve ever heard this? It happens every year with us. As said before, the players we want to keep and want to saty will restructure. Everything will be fine. New regime will clean things up for the future. No worries here. We were only one game away from playoffs last year. And the same. Rap was being said last offseason.

    RAIDER NATION!!!!!

  17. freedomispopular says: Feb 29, 2012 1:06 AM

    The new coach and GM are inheriting a mess, yet they’ll probably be expected to have results within 2-3 years. Such is life in the NFL.

  18. deangelo23hall says: Feb 29, 2012 1:07 AM

    Welcome to Washington, Tyvon!

  19. ggregory34 says: Feb 29, 2012 1:09 AM

    Wow the Raiders are how much over thed cap? Well let’s check this out. Ok you trade a 1st and a 2nd round draft picks to the Bengals? For Carson (I quite on teams) Palmer/ are you kidding me? Who would do that ? Oh wait he came to the bengals too. Didn’t Philly take your best player last year? I can hear it next year With the first pick in the 2013 NFL Draft the Oakland Raiders take Jamarcus Russell and his botttle of that purple stuff he is always seen with. Oh before I forget Michael Bush will be moving to Cincinnati soon.

  20. trojan33sc says: Feb 29, 2012 1:24 AM

    Redskins cap will be even lower next year after having to give away 2-3, # 1 draft picks to move and snatch RGIII. Let’s Roll !!!!!!!!!!!

  21. invaiduh says: Feb 29, 2012 1:24 AM

    @ninernasty
    happens all the time and they always make it under…

    we’ll be fine.

  22. commitment2excrement says: Feb 29, 2012 1:35 AM

    prideandpoise says: Feb 29, 2012 12:06 AM

    No big deal. They will restructure guys like Carson Palmer, Kamerion Wimbley, and Tommy Kelly among others. Bush leaves as a FA and they back load a long term deal for Tyvon Branch.

    LOL, why would Wimbley take a reduced salary when he can just say No, pocket 6.5m then get resigned elsewhere and acquire roughly the same amount as if he stayed and collected his full 11m?
    This isnt madden, these players have agents…..

  23. prideandpoise says: Feb 29, 2012 1:45 AM

    ninerdynasty says: Feb 29, 2012 12:38 AM

    prideandpoise says: Feb 29, 2012 12:06 AM

    No big deal. They will restructure guys like Carson Palmer, Kamerion Wimbley, and Tommy Kelly among others. Bush leaves as a FA and they back load a long term deal for Tyvon Branch.
    ————————————————

    You make it sound like the team has the only say on re-structured contracts.. What makes you think that ALL those players will agree to do that just to stay in a team that is deep in a hole.

    ———————————-

    I’m not saying they’re going to all agree to pay cuts. It’s called restructuring: Moving money around to make the cap work. I guarantee most agents would rather restructure these bloated contracts that Al Davis was handing out like candy than take less money with another team.

  24. trubroncfan07 says: Feb 29, 2012 1:47 AM

    Raiders might get the first round pick in next years draft, that’s if they are smart enough to hold on to it. Oh wait they traded it to the the bengals with this years first pick…LMAO!!!

  25. andyr2120 says: Feb 29, 2012 1:48 AM

    The first thing a Raider fan learns about the salary cap is that the team always looks like they are in deep cap trouble at the beginning of the offseason. Go to bed, forget about the cap, and you wake up with the problem solved and no major player losses. There’s always wiggle room in Al’s contracts.

    At the same time, I suspect this will be the last year we need to have this discussion….

  26. silverhornet says: Feb 29, 2012 1:51 AM

    Just Spend Baby

  27. raideralex99 says: Feb 29, 2012 1:53 AM

    Seriously … this story comes out every year at this time “Raiders over the Cap”. What’s the big deal … they just shuffle the numbers around … end of story.

  28. charly0418 says: Feb 29, 2012 1:55 AM

    Raiders cut Aaron Curry, John Henderson, Hiram Eugene and Kamerion Wimbley and they save themselves more than $20 million in cap room. Combine that with some restructured deals and the Raiders won’t have a problem getting below the cap.

  29. charliewade says: Feb 29, 2012 2:11 AM

    ‘Carson needs to take a reduced salary given what the team has given for him, it’s time to give back.’

    **chuckle**

    And *why* would he do that? He really has no reason to. For one, the Raiders are not going to cut him no matter what. They gave up far, far too much for him to cut him for any reason other than sudden death. So what leverage do the Raiders have? None, that’s how much.

    He is also guaranteed $5 million for 2012 no matter what… which was exactly how much of a pay cut he already took last season to facilitate the trade in the first place. He’s already ‘(given) back’, if you ask me.

    The only leverage the Raiders had with him was before the trade was made. Once he arrived in Jokeland, the Raiders ceased to have any more leverage, at least for 2012 and probably 2013. They gave up far, far too much for him to allow him to walk before then.

  30. cannonballdookie says: Feb 29, 2012 2:18 AM

    Dumped countless draft picks into three QB’s, still don’t have a quality starter= The Raiders Way.

  31. vikingdoode says: Feb 29, 2012 2:31 AM

    What your seeing is the “leftover”spending and dysfunctional Al Davis…..Now what your seeing is a broom getting rid of unwanted bugs….Can you see Barkley in a Raider uniform next Draft?

  32. westcoastraider says: Feb 29, 2012 3:08 AM

    Don’t worry about us, we’ll be alright

  33. quittsburghstoolers says: Feb 29, 2012 3:11 AM

    “Raiders have to dump plenty of salary”

    ———————————————————-

    That shouldn’t be too hard.

    They have plenty of crappy players to choose from…

  34. raidersfreak says: Feb 29, 2012 3:16 AM

    Al what were you thinking in your old age may he RIP.

    Reggie will get this fixed but it will sting for a little bit.

    Even with draft picks who could the Raiders pick for free. Good thing they don’t have any this year until the cap is corrected.

  35. crise40g says: Feb 29, 2012 3:58 AM

    Haha, all these “capologists” are worried for the Silver and Black. Don’t worry, Reg Mc is here to get things in order AND field a competitive team.

  36. psj3809 says: Feb 29, 2012 4:43 AM

    Dont see why people are panicking, this is normal for the Raiders ! Under Gruden and Bruce Allen there were years when Oakland were 40 million over supposedly but easily got under it.

    As others have mentioned, a few restructurings, the odd cut and its not that bad. I like Wimberly but hes making too much money and the defense was ranked near last in the league, so if one or two players from the 28th defense leave i’m not going to worry.

  37. joetoronto says: Feb 29, 2012 5:05 AM

    Gotta laugh at the Bungal fans here, at least the Raiders spend money to TRY and compete.

    So many owners just pocket the money, like yours.

  38. envywv says: Feb 29, 2012 5:43 AM

    Wow. If Reggie pulls this off, and the Raiders field a good team this year, he’ll deserve some kind of reward.
    On the other side of this though, not that other teams are going to jump to take some of these guys, but I imagine there is some possibility of picking up more mid-round picks IF trades occur. Big IF though.

  39. jcioffi1485 says: Feb 29, 2012 6:18 AM

    My beloved Bengals can $80,000,000 under the cap and the rest of the league being $80,000,000 OVER the cap, I can guarantee that virtually nobody will sign with us as a quality free agent

  40. db105 says: Feb 29, 2012 6:39 AM

    With all of their salary cap issues the Raiders are still contenders in the sorry ass AFC West.

  41. raqaiw says: Feb 29, 2012 6:48 AM

    Just goes to show a great GM > great Coach. Of course,great GMs have great scouts,but they rarely get any recognition.

  42. vipod4ever says: Feb 29, 2012 6:59 AM

    really? the Raiders have always taken care of the cap. This is a red herring.

  43. Manny Gonzalez says: Feb 29, 2012 7:25 AM

    And with the first pick of the 2013 NFL Draft, the Oakland Raiders select…

  44. lilrob10201 says: Feb 29, 2012 7:43 AM

    Are the Raiders trying to be the Lakers ?

  45. pskotte says: Feb 29, 2012 7:48 AM

    Bye bye Bush.

  46. spellingcops says: Feb 29, 2012 8:15 AM

    Why don’t the raiders just join the cfl? Maybe then they could be somewhat competitive again.

  47. outburst78 says: Feb 29, 2012 8:18 AM

    Ah, yes. The salary cap that we are always over at this time of year but always get under on time without dumping productive players. There is some depth in the positions that have out of whack contracts. Those that won’t restructure will be shown the door. There may not be much improvement in the record this year, but we only needed to win one more game last year to make the playoffs in this weak division, and some could argue that some of the cuts we would make of the players listed above would be addition by subtraction. I’m not worried.

  48. godcanfirealdavis says: Feb 29, 2012 8:18 AM

    Commitment to excrement……

  49. jgrange08 says: Feb 29, 2012 8:55 AM

    All these articles about how dire the steelers cap situation is, the steelers are right at the cap and have competitive team even if they lose wallace. The raiders are 22 million over and that squad they have assembled with that money?

  50. okldr8daz says: Feb 29, 2012 8:56 AM

    Thanks Again Big Al !

  51. jgrange08 says: Feb 29, 2012 8:57 AM

    jgrange08 says:
    Feb 29, 2012 8:55 AM
    All these articles about how dire the steelers cap situation is, the steelers are right at the cap and have competitive team even if they lose wallace. The raiders are 22 million over and that squad they have assembled with that money?

    Sorry…that IS the squad they have assembled with that money

  52. tatum064 says: Feb 29, 2012 9:10 AM

    ninerdynasty says:
    Feb 29, 2012 12:38 AM
    prideandpoise says: Feb 29, 2012 12:06 AM

    No big deal. They will restructure guys like Carson Palmer, Kamerion Wimbley, and Tommy Kelly among others. Bush leaves as a FA and they back load a long term deal for Tyvon Branch.
    ————————————————

    You make it sound like the team has the only say on re-structured contracts.. What makes you think that ALL those players will agree to do that just to stay in a team that is deep in a hole.

    ======================

    Yeah, I realize it sucked having Kyle Williams fumble away a Super Bowl run, Niner fan….

    So close, yet so far… See you in Santa Clara

  53. tatum064 says: Feb 29, 2012 9:11 AM

    azjahwkr says:
    Feb 28, 2012 11:36 PM
    Wow…over the cap, have to dump good palayers and loss of draft picks for noodle arm. This is going to be fun watching this train wreck

    ==================

    Yep, and the train wreck will be coming to SMASH your team – just like we did San Diego’s on NFL Network…

    this thing is just beginning, bro.

  54. silvernblackpa says: Feb 29, 2012 9:14 AM

    Gah, this is quite the Gordian knot for McKenzie to untangle.

    Overpaid, oft injured guys like Chris Johnson and Hiram Eugene are already as good as gone. Wouldn’t surprise me to see Cooper Carlisle take a walk too. He had a surprisingly good season last year, but you can find right guards elsewhere for less.

    Wimbley, Huff, Kelly and Curry are prime targets to be released if they don’t restructure.

    Read over on Steve Corkran’s blog that Curry loves it in Oakland and will probably re-do his deal. Wimbley doesn’t seem inclined to.

    In Reggie We Trust.

  55. tatum064 says: Feb 29, 2012 9:17 AM

    cincybert says:
    Feb 29, 2012 12:04 AM
    The Carson Palmer trade: the gift that just keeps on giving for the Bengals. Thanks for taking the cap hit on that one Oakland. Of course, the Raiders can choose to look on the bright side, at least they won’t have to worry about spending any money on a first round draft pick this year.

    ================

    Bengal fan…lets try to get past the Steelers, AND Ravens before we run our mouths…and that PUNKING 1 and Done by the Texans did not suck much, did it?

    You still are a minor annoyance to our Nation, by ending BoJackson’s career…. that and choking to the 49ers TWICE are about the only highlights in that scrub franchise started in 66 in the shadow of the Browns….which is the name of your owner.

    Puh-leaze.

    we will return to Cincy and rest assured, Carson will drop 3 or 4 bills on you – no way is he going to lose that game.

    RAIDER NATION! All the other “nations” are frauds.

  56. 7pints says: Feb 29, 2012 9:18 AM

    That’s odd… I don’t see all the delusional Jokeland fan comments about how they are back and will be Super Bowl contenders. Weird.

  57. adantsa says: Feb 29, 2012 9:20 AM

    Micheal Bush is a FA? I’d love to see him start somewhere full time, dude is a beast.

  58. tybrew says: Feb 29, 2012 9:38 AM

    Hope we can get seymore back somehow..draft speed edge rusher…and lockdown corner …j jenkins

  59. jasontaylor99 says: Feb 29, 2012 9:42 AM

    WOW – There are a lot of negative votes on some posts, and I did not even know Radier fans could read!

  60. raiderlyfe510 says: Feb 29, 2012 10:01 AM

    It’s amazing that we’re changing systems from Power football/Air Coryell to Zone Blocking/West Coast Offense without players that fit the system, or any draft picks and cap space to sign players that fit.

  61. rc33 says: Feb 29, 2012 10:08 AM

    Keep convincing yourself that Seymour is worth $12+ million a season, Raider fans.

  62. kscott91685 says: Feb 29, 2012 10:18 AM

    Its funny to read this and see some raider fans actually think palmer is good. Yea he will come to cincy next year and yeah he will probably throw 3 or 4 tds but how many of those will be pick 6s?

  63. jjackwagon says: Feb 29, 2012 10:24 AM

    It’s amazing that we’re changing systems from Power football/Air Coryell to Zone Blocking/West Coast Offense without players that fit the system, or any draft picks and cap space to sign players that fit.

    ————————————————–
    What’s more amazing as that team ownership actually has you believing it will work!!

  64. 2sloweggroll says: Feb 29, 2012 10:25 AM

    Seems pretty simple. Restructure all the big contracts on defense or cut weight.

    They have plenty of young players on the D-line to lose Kelly/Seymour or both

    There are plenty of mid level MLB that could perform at the level McClain did last year, without the gun charge.

    Chris Johson can be replaced by one of the drafted players from lst year.

    I would like to see Huff stay. Maybe a restructure.

    Wimbley needs to bring his coontract back to his playing level or he can go too.

    Bottom line is they can field a team with Undrafted FA instead of over priced veterns if the result is still the same… a 30-32nd ranked defense.

  65. raiderlyfe510 says: Feb 29, 2012 10:37 AM

    Not me. I saw Carson Palmer run the West Coast offense at USC under Paul Hackett. He had the precision and accuracy of a drunk sniper.

    I also saw McFadden under Greg Knapp and that Zone Blocking scheme before…Close to becoming a colossal bust

    4-12 or 6-10 at best next year with this rag tag coaching staff and incompatible system…IMHO.

  66. ptownstripes says: Feb 29, 2012 10:38 AM

    tatumo64 says:
    Feb 29, 2012 9:17 AM

    Bengal fan…lets try to get past the Steelers, AND Ravens before we run our mouths…and that PUNKING 1 and Done by the Texans did not suck much, did it?

    You still are a minor annoyance to our Nation, by ending BoJackson’s career…. that and choking to the 49ers TWICE are about the only highlights in that scrub franchise started in 66 in the shadow of the Browns….which is the name of your owner.

    Puh-leaze.

    we will return to Cincy and rest assured, Carson will drop 3 or 4 bills on you – no way is he going to lose that game.

    RAIDER NATION! All the other “nations” are frauds.
    __________________________________

    Of course Brown is the name of the owner. You say that like there is some great joke there. Paul Brown founded both teams, Student of the Game.

  67. pantherpro says: Feb 29, 2012 10:39 AM

    Hey Silver Black Trash,

    You had chance to go something last year and you gagged it away. You are a rudderless ship with a bunch of lowlife losers who somehow associate with Raiders? You will have to give away more seats this year in the NFL lowest capacity stadium. Maybe you can borrow the tarps from your other team in Oaktown the San Jose A’s? Nice!!

  68. rayguyreturns says: Feb 29, 2012 10:48 AM

    “godcanfirealdavis says:
    Commitment to excrement……”
    ___________________________________
    Was it you, or one of the other 300 posters who have typed this, the original author?
    Didn’t think so.
    Glad you can copy other people’s ideas.
    Now go out and have an original thought.

  69. chargerzz says: Feb 29, 2012 10:50 AM

    Chargers rule this division

  70. humb0lt says: Feb 29, 2012 11:27 AM

    The Raiders are going to have a tough time competing the next couple of seasons as the new brain trust sorts through the mess created by decades of Al Davis. The Chargers, Broncos and Chiefs are in better shape through and through. I think the Raiders are in for a few seasons of cellar finishes in the division. But that is what their fans have come to expect.

  71. cincybert says: Feb 29, 2012 12:20 PM

    I now understand the exasperation that Broncos, Chiefs, and Chargers fans feel when they try to reason with Raiders fans. Where to begin when responding to @tatum064? Surely he knows that the Raiders have not been to playoffs since 2002, right? And as for the statement that there is “no way” Palmer loses a game to Cincinnati…..let me give you the top 3 ways tatum064 that Carson Palmer loses a game for his team: 1) Throwing more INTs than TDs 2) Throwing a back-breaking pick six, and 3) Horrendous clock managment. In Palmer’s short time with the Raiders, you have probably already seen all three. Best of luck to the Raiders and their fans in 2012, and I hope you all enjoy your Round 5 draft parties.

  72. raiderapologist says: Feb 29, 2012 12:44 PM

    humb0lt says: Feb 29, 2012 11:27 AM

    The Raiders are going to have a tough time competing the next couple of seasons as the new brain trust sorts through the mess created by decades of Al Davis.

    Decades of Al Davis produced 5 Super Bowl appearances. Decades of the assorted crap that’s been running your favorite franchise hasn’t fared nearly as well. Don’t talk down while you’re looking up.

  73. chargerzz says: Feb 29, 2012 2:02 PM

    Raiders are trash

  74. brazy44 says: Feb 29, 2012 2:07 PM

    Unless you are a Whiner, Cowgirl or Steel Magnolia fan, you ain’t got more rings. say what you will, but it’s about Rings. We still own you. Go ahead and get your recycled jokes in while you can. With Reggie in charge, Raiders are on the Rise!!

  75. humboldt420 says: Feb 29, 2012 2:15 PM

    This pretty much sums up the Raiders’ situation…

    From Steve Corkran, Raiders beat writer for the Bay Area News Group (Oakland Tribune):

    It isn’t pretty on paper, sure, but the Raiders never have had an issue finding creative ways to free up cap room. Some of those same people remain in the organization. It’s just that, they are going to have to work harder and longer this season than they did, say, two years ago.
    In other words, expect to hear a ton of gloom and doom in the coming days, only to learn that the Raiders reached cap compliance by March 13 without the sky falling.

    Exactly.

    The National Media will portray this as doom and gloom, when in reality, it’s not.

    When was the last time the Raiders failed to meet the cap?

  76. raiderapologist says: Feb 29, 2012 6:32 PM

    trubroncfan07 says: Feb 29, 2012 1:47 AM

    Raiders might get the first round pick in next years draft, that’s if they are smart enough to hold on to it. Oh wait they traded it to the the bengals with this years first pick…LMAO!!!

    Here’s another acronym you should use…IAAM!!! I’m surprised other Bronco fans don’t ask you to stop embarrassing them with your ignorance. By the way, you are a fan of the team that traded a first round pick to take Alphonso Smith, and wasted another first round pick on Knowshon Moreno. In the same year!

  77. raidadon says: Feb 29, 2012 8:11 PM

    The bengals are sooooo bad ass! Is their ring of honor in a toilet with such greats as icky woods n christy collinsworth! Ya ginger QB gonna get a swirly in yalls ring of honor!!

    RAIDER DAWN !!!

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