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NFL will now investigate Redskins bounty program

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Between Mark Maske’s Friday report in the Washington Post and former Redskins safety Matt Bowen’s Saturday item for the Chicago Tribune, it seems clear that, like the Saints, the Redskins under defensive coordinator Gregg Williams had a bounty program.

That’s apparently news to the NFL.

Maske reports that the league will investigate whether the Redskins used bounties.  Though Maske, citing a source, characterizes the review as almost perfunctory, the fact remains that if the players tell the league what they told Maske, and if Bowen’s article is accepted as true and accurate, not much of an investigation will be needed.

And if the use of a bounty program with the Redskins is indeed news to the NFL, it likely means that, when Gregg Williams inevitably was given a chance to purge his soul by confessing the depth of the rabbit hole, he said something like “I swear I never did it before being hired by the Saints.”

If that’s the case — if Williams lied to the league about pre-New Orleans bounties after initially lying to the league about using bounties with the Saints — Williams has to go.  Permanently.

Apart from any discipline imposed on the Saints or any other coaches or any of the players involved, if Williams failed to admit the extent of his use of a bounty program after finally admitting to using one in New Orleans, the man who recently was hired to serve as the Rams defensive coordinator should be banned from the NFL, for life.

Harsh?  Yes.  But necessary.

Apart from the habit (not mistake) of dangling cash as an incentive to cripple, Williams hasn’t been honest, at least when asked about bounties in New Orleans and most likely when asked about bounties elsewhere.

Williams both broke the rules and lied to conceal it.  Given the underlying nature of the violation, the NFL can’t afford to keep him employed, not at a time when safety has become such a priority.

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  1. mjkelly77 says: Mar 3, 2012 10:19 PM

    Jack Tatum, now spinning in his grave, can’t believe there are bounty programs where players actually attempt to hurt opponents.

  2. silverbuffalo says: Mar 3, 2012 10:20 PM

    What did Butkis do all those years?

  3. theglap says: Mar 3, 2012 10:21 PM

    How could they ban him for life without running afoul of antitrust laws?

  4. bangreggwilliams says: Mar 3, 2012 10:23 PM

    Don’t need bread crumbs to follow this path, just follow Gregg Williams.

    What a class act — the master of injuring others from the safe confines of the sidelines.

    Ban Gregg Williams!

  5. barkerwoofer says: Mar 3, 2012 10:26 PM

    How crazy would it be if this ultimately cost Washington RG3?

  6. niquebchillin says: Mar 3, 2012 10:27 PM

    Spygate still way worse … Hitting always been apart of the game … If you ain’t notice the Saints dirty play before now then shut up … Just illegal motivation, not knowing plays formations of opponents ..

  7. possiblecabbage says: Mar 3, 2012 10:27 PM

    I see no reason why Gregg Williams shouldn’t get the Pete Rose treatment. Sure, he’s not the only one doing things like this (potentially), but I sincerely doubt Rose was the only one gambling on baseball either. If the NFL wants to stamp out this behavior (and they should: nobody wants to watch injuries or backups) then they really ought to make an example out of Williams.

  8. blackqbwhiterb says: Mar 3, 2012 10:28 PM

    Joe Gibbs is clean!!! As for Williams, I suppose Tiki’s flabbergasted….nfl will figure out a way to make this go away in a couple weeks…like everything else they do damage control on…

  9. shaggytoodle says: Mar 3, 2012 10:28 PM

    Feel bad for the Rams if anyone ever gets injured against them the NFL is going to be all over them.

  10. bigblueapple says: Mar 3, 2012 10:28 PM

    At least the Saints won a Bowl doing this. It seems no matter how much bonus money or how it’s distributed can help the Skins win. At this point it is safe to assume that anything but an ownership change will help change that fact.

  11. nflfollower says: Mar 3, 2012 10:29 PM

    Why can’t these be booty programs? It would make for a more interesting offseason. A better storyline too…

  12. keithhodges311 says: Mar 3, 2012 10:30 PM

    The extra G stands for GONER.

  13. mjkelly77 says: Mar 3, 2012 10:32 PM

    “Williams both broke the rules and lied to conceal it. Given the underlying nature of the violation, the NFL can’t afford to keep him employed, not at a time when safety has become such a priority.”
    ____________________

    Gee, counselor, was he under oath? The only reason safety is now of any import to the NFL is due to pending and possible future litigation by the players. Play a violent game for ungodly compensation, bank $50 million, then sue your employer after you retire. “I didn’t know how dangerous the workung conditions were so you should have warned me.” All NFL player contracts need a clause exempting the teams and the NFL from any subsequent litigation. But make them responsible for providing lifetime medical insurance coverage for the players.

  14. rcali says: Mar 3, 2012 10:34 PM

    Honestly, have we all turned into a country of sissys? When players play dirty they get flagged, fined, and suspended. That’s enough for me.

  15. 123makarov says: Mar 3, 2012 10:36 PM

    theglap says:
    Mar 3, 2012 10:21 PM
    How could they ban him for life without running afoul of antitrust laws?

    Ask Dexter Manley and Pete Rose about being banned for life.

  16. guppies66 says: Mar 3, 2012 10:36 PM

    100% on target.

    And any other team employees (even HC’s) who knew and lied (even once) to the league should be suspended for (at least) 1 year.

    People do not sufficiently appreciate the seriousness of these ‘bounty’ violations. They are taking the sport to below the lowest level of acceptable human behavior, intentionally trying to injure another.

  17. stoutfiles says: Mar 3, 2012 10:38 PM

    How far back can we go to punish teams? The Skins haven’t had this guy for years. If we find out a team had bounties in the 70’s do we punish them now?

  18. chayre says: Mar 3, 2012 10:41 PM

    Banning Williams from the NFL is far from the answer — especially when more details come out about other coordinators and teams doing the same thing. A can of worms I’d be hesitant to open.

  19. goldrush36 says: Mar 3, 2012 10:41 PM

    Well kiss those RG3 dreams goodbye. It’s really a shame that Dr Heat is gonna leave all his former teams burning like that. Question is how high up the chain of command knowledge of the problem went. Obviously eveyone in New Orleans new. Williams, Peyton and Loomis deserve the most punishment in this scandal for sure. Williams should face at least a fine and 1 year suspension. Peyton should get 4-8 weeks and a fine. Loomis should be outright blackballed as he is a high ranking executive. This long after the fact and a whole new staff…… Redskins should really only face a fine unless ownership was aware and didn’t try to stop it

  20. bigmike7914 says: Mar 3, 2012 10:46 PM

    So let me get this straight Donte Stallworth drove drunk killed a person gets to play in the NFL, Leonard Little drove drunk twice once killing a person was able to come back and play football in the NFL, but this guy should get a lifetime ban for putting bounties on a players head, and not to mention the players that tried to hurt someone are accountable also, it’s not like when Williams came to them they said no coach that’s just wrong they went along with it, and tried to get paid so the guys that are so called blowing the whistle on this sort of thing aren’t at all innocent by no means and should be punished too.

  21. gcsuk says: Mar 3, 2012 10:47 PM

    niquebchillin says:
    Mar 3, 2012 10:27 PM
    Spygate still way worse … Hitting always been apart of the game … If you ain’t notice the Saints dirty play before now then shut up … Just illegal motivation, not knowing plays formations of opponents ..
    ——————————————————–

    Speak English much?

  22. r66x says: Mar 3, 2012 10:49 PM

    Attempting to hurt someone is assault. It doesn’t matter if it is on the football field or street corner.

    Coaches who have bounty programs or have knowledge of them should not be allowed to coach again. There are plenty of qualified football coaches around.

  23. hendawg21 says: Mar 3, 2012 10:53 PM

    And where has Gregg been? And how long has he been gone from Washington? You might as well investigate every team he’s been with then…and who’s to say some of these snitches aren’t disgruntled ex players? Suspend Williams and any player you have tape on that actually were suspended or fined for a dirty/cheep shot….I mean come on if I guy got paid for what is deemed as a good clean hit that knocked a guy out of the game you have no case other than maybe a salary cap issue…

  24. stairwayto7 says: Mar 3, 2012 11:04 PM

    Ban the deadskins and Aints from national tv or blackout all their home games! If this is news to the NFL, I guess the rat Goodell was slppeing on the job yet again or handing down suspensions with no mertit!

  25. sslikma13 says: Mar 3, 2012 11:05 PM

    Why do some think that this is just about hard hits? It’s not about hard hits… it’s about INTENTIONALLY hurting someone. NFL players or any players that in sports should be paid to intentionally hurt someone. It has no place in sports… hard hits are a part of the game, it will happen, but not hurting someone on purpose.

  26. croghan1919 says: Mar 3, 2012 11:05 PM

    Banned for life?
    Damn skippy!!!

  27. Walk says: Mar 3, 2012 11:07 PM

    Anyone else thing these type of programs cropping up after the nfl started reviewing game footage and handing out fines is just a coincidence?

  28. joeflaccosunibrow says: Mar 3, 2012 11:09 PM

    What about his time in Buffalo as head coach? They should string him up and make an example out of him. He lied to the NFL and should be squashed!

  29. babyhorsemorgan says: Mar 3, 2012 11:12 PM

    It’s not exactly a revelation that Williams is a jerk, and a stupid, loudmouthed one at that. Common knowledge for anyone who follows the game closely. Ban his fat ass and Double D man boobs. For aesthetic reasons if nothing else.

  30. doublebro says: Mar 3, 2012 11:12 PM

    Been nice knowin ya Gregg….

  31. pacificnw7722 says: Mar 3, 2012 11:15 PM

    People talking about Jack Tatum, Butkis etc… that was then, this is now. (Reality Check)

    The NFL is becoming aware of the long term effects of concussions…

    Then we have Gregg Williams putting a bounty on the table to cause concussions and other injuries to take out players!!

    He has been doing this for a VERY LONG time. (Proven)

    Kick this A$$hat out of the NFL for good!

  32. jwreck says: Mar 3, 2012 11:19 PM

    Oh god no! Are we going to lose all of Jason Campbell’s passing records? Adam Archuleta’s defensive MVP? Will Jason Taylor be suspended from Redskins training camp? The Redskins 2004-2007 legacy is forever tarnished.

  33. rubbernilly says: Mar 3, 2012 11:21 PM

    Completely agreed on this.

    First, establish some penalty for involvement in the bounty program. It should be significant, but not banning (outside of repeat offenses).

    But then, for lying to authorized NFL investigators, the penalty has to start at 1 yr. out of the league and go up from there. So where does that leave this guy, with his pattern of lying?

    Gone.

    I hear Terrell Owens owns part of that team he plays for now. Maybe he has a coaching spot open for him.

  34. RussianBreadMaker says: Mar 3, 2012 11:31 PM

    Sean Taylor was the ultimate bounty hunter.

  35. zor9999 says: Mar 3, 2012 11:32 PM

    Next story will be about his time head coaching in Buffalo…… It’s coming…

  36. philliesphan says: Mar 3, 2012 11:33 PM

    I heard 3 NFL players, 2 active and 1 retired talk about bounties on different teams. They said they are for “big hits” or turnovers. It is especially common on special teams when they face a guy like Hester or Cribbs. Anyone who thinks this is limited to just Gregg Williams is pretty naive.

  37. latopia says: Mar 3, 2012 11:34 PM

    But what are the terms of art here? Both Bowen and Maske are talking about “legal” hits that may/may not cause players to sit out a series or a game. They’re not talking about “bounties” for illegal or extralegal acts specifically contrived to endanger lives or end careers.

  38. phillychzstk2012 says: Mar 3, 2012 11:36 PM

    PLEAAASE cost the redskins their first round pick this year!! no RG3 for them

  39. cowboysfromdallas says: Mar 3, 2012 11:43 PM

    The Redskins are so far removed from Williams at this point nothing should be done to jeopardize their future. If anything is done to the ‘skins it should be a fine and/or the loss of a LATE round pick. St. Louis should start the search for a new new defensive corrdinator though.

  40. niquebchillin says: Mar 3, 2012 11:47 PM

    If you think spygate is worse than this your a idiot … Patriots ain’t win since ..

  41. cags777 says: Mar 3, 2012 11:53 PM

    If you’re going to ban Gregg Williams from the NFL for life, fine him first. I would have no problem with the NFL putting this person (I won’t even call him a man) through the wringer the same way he instructed his players to do to opposing players.

  42. JohnnyRyde says: Mar 4, 2012 12:03 AM

    There’s an interesting discussion buried in here about how you punish a team several years after the fact in this era of free agency and the salary cap.

    If you punish the Redskins for this bad thing, in what way are you really punishing the people who behaved badly? The GM from that time is gone. The head coach from that time is gone. The head coach who replaced that head coach is gone. The staff has completely turned over and so have the vast majority of the players. At what point is a team no longer the same team?

    The real constant is Dan Snyder. And most Redskins fans would like to punish him just on principle.

    But if you do something that hurts the team instead of just the owner (removing draft picks instead of just a monetary fine on the organization), you’re hurting people who had nothing to do with the bad behavior. You’re hurting Mike Shanahan’s and Bruce Allen’s ability to do their job… and they were both with different teams when this was going on…

  43. cags777 says: Mar 4, 2012 12:03 AM

    And here’s another question I have: Why isn’t anyone holding Goodell accountable for this? He attended the NFC Championship Game in New Orleans and saw the malicious hits on Brett Favre. He only handed out one measly fine over it, did little to investigate the incident, and let the Saints continue on. It was only until one of the league’s favorite players – Adrian Peterson – said that Saints players were purposely trying to hurt him during their last game in December that this investigation go relaunched. I only mention AP because he was the most notable player to speak out on the issue.

  44. duncanthecat says: Mar 4, 2012 12:04 AM

    I guess one can say The Titens are next.

    I can only suspect that Williams was tutored in this practice by current Ram HQ when both where the defensive guru’s at TN.

    On a footnote, considering the Redskins are responsible for a couple of Desean Jackson’s concussions, it can’t be all that bad…

  45. j0esixpack says: Mar 4, 2012 12:05 AM

    If the Saints and Redskins were paying players extra and not reporting it to the League, isn’t that also a salary cap violation?

    Denver cheated the salary cap in able to fit Elway and Terrel Davis’ salary and not cut other players in order to win their back to back Super Bowls.

    The League fined the Broncos $2 million – the largest fine in the history of the NFL to this day, nearly three times as much as the Patriots had to pay for Spygate, plus they took a draft pick away from them too.

    So in addition to cheating the salary cap, and a similar fine and loss of draft picks, I would have to expect that openly and purposefully putting a player’s health and welfare at risk is going to have to result in some pretty stiff penalties.

    But I’m not holding my breath… The only thing that Goodell, and a large number of ignorant football fans seem to care about is to make sure teams put their signal filming equipment in the stands, as allowed by NFL rules, rather than on the sidelines.

    Do that, and you lose a first round draft pick and get a fine.

    Pay players to hurt other players? Meh. The league and a sad number of idiot fans don’t care quite so much. This will be a relative slap on the wrist.

    Cheating the cap and hurting players aren’t big deals to Goodell… They just better keep their team cameras in the stands and off the sidelines.

  46. tinopuno says: Mar 4, 2012 12:06 AM

    silverbuffalo says: Mar 3, 2012 10:20 PM

    What did Butkis do all those years?

    ================================
    It’s always so enlightening to hear from a knuckle dragger. Please don’t ever allow logic or rational thought to influence your opinions. What a player does on his own is entirely different than a member of management: 1) soliciting and rewarding dirty play and 2) lying about it repeatedly to the governing body.

  47. switch123 says: Mar 4, 2012 12:14 AM

    Ok so we have Buddy Ryan who was the originator of the bounty Program, than his two defensive disciples:

    Greg WIlliams and Jeff Fisher.

    so all the EVIL BOUNTY teams that need investigating are:

    Saints, Redskins, Buffalo, Tennesse, Jacksonville, Houston, Jets, Cardinals, Philadelphia, 49ers, Chicago and Minnesota.

    Goodell better hurry up, thats alot of investigating…………………………..
    Rediculous

  48. andrewsherylandharry says: Mar 4, 2012 12:15 AM

    If, like me, you have nothing better to do on a Saturday night, at least post something sensible.
    This has nothing to do with Tatum et al.. This is not hard hits over the middle, this is twisting ankles on the bottom of the pile, going low at the knees. A lot of people will have cashed in on the Bounty for plays that we may never have noticed. This is not tough, it is cheap.

  49. djstat says: Mar 4, 2012 12:25 AM

    How is spyware worse? Teams scout all the time too retard!!!

  50. jrfrom508 says: Mar 4, 2012 12:34 AM

    Banned for life from his profession? F you dude. F you. Seriously.

  51. stevenfbrackett says: Mar 4, 2012 12:34 AM

    Albert Haynesworth has been burning up the phone lines to his agent this weekend.

    “Call the Saints. Call the ‘Skins. They gonna need someone and I need a team!”

  52. juv3rd11 says: Mar 4, 2012 12:34 AM

    this makes no sense…Why would a player be told they would get 1500-8000 for a hit when they could get a fine up to a 100,000…the reward were for sacks,INTs,TDs,ETC…..

  53. bullethead527 says: Mar 4, 2012 12:40 AM

    I say all the other 31 teams but bounties on the Saints, 1000000 to knock out Brees for the season, 250000 to knock any starting WR, TE, or RB’s, and then 200000 for each DEF player that gets taking out for the season.

    Then we can see how those Saints fans feel about those kind of bounties.

    Bounties between teammates like, whoever gets the most sacks, or interceptions, FF, FR, tackles, clean hard hits and TD’s seems like camaraderie.

    But to say heres 10 grand for whoever injures Favre and takes him out the game, is ridiculous.

  54. profootballwalk says: Mar 4, 2012 12:55 AM

    Word out of Buffalo – same thing. This guy is gone – forever. You have no right to work for the NFL. If they don’t like the way you open the Men’s Room door, they can fire your a$$.

  55. mattw70 says: Mar 4, 2012 1:01 AM

    Story getting way overblown by the haters,who want to see draft picks taken away.List all the star players the Redskins hurt while Williams was there.I bet there’s no more than any other team.Plus every game is covered by a dozen cameras,you can’t get away with anything.

  56. lovetron says: Mar 4, 2012 1:10 AM

    So what happens if Washington trades away its picks for the #2 spot prior to a ruling? Is the trade then vacated, or is their #2 pick potentially vacated? This could get very dicey and could potentially have some long-lasting implications for a lot of teams, both positively and negatively.

  57. defscottyb says: Mar 4, 2012 1:14 AM

    Buddy Ryan of 1985 Bears 46 defense and ah-ummm… Eagles HC fame was the master and inventor of the “Bounty Cash Award Program”. The 46 stands for “hit em four times harder in the head and their knocked out for at least 6 plays” hahaha. No, I’m joking… thought it sounded clever.

  58. sariff420 says: Mar 4, 2012 1:41 AM

    To the person that said this is assault, are you kidding me ?? It is different than being in a street corner. This is their place of work . And their “work atmosphere” is comprised of violent hits and injuries occuring. Naive. Stop acting like this us flag football.

  59. skinsfanwill says: Mar 4, 2012 2:02 AM

    The worst cheat in the history of sports is Bill Belicheck. Knowing what someone is going to do defeats the whole purpose of SPORT. Yet he gets an NFL and ESPN special. Hit somebody too hard and get paid a little extra and you want to ban the man. This is football, not ballet. Like you all actually care about a players career. Let a player hold out for money and you will drag him under the bus yourselves. I wanna see helmets flying, mouthguards flying all over the place, and cleats being separated from their owners after hits. To heck with these penalties and fines for cracking an opponent. THIS IS FOOTBALL!!!!!!! Why the heck are their pads if you can’t hit somebody with them.

  60. beavertonsteve says: Mar 4, 2012 2:04 AM

    Looks like former Bills players are saying there were bounties paid out there too.

  61. toppdogg51 says: Mar 4, 2012 2:08 AM

    @niquebchillin
    Stealing plays versus ending someone’s career is not the same nor should be any comparison. Spy gate is an old issue that was resolved by the league. No one has been injured physically from some one stealing their plays.

  62. Slim Charles says: Mar 4, 2012 2:22 AM

    The last sentence of this post should read:

    “Williams both broke the rules and lied to conceal it. Given the underlying nature of the violation, the NFL can’t afford to keep him employed, not at a time when they are trying to push an 18-game season.”

  63. kilo0986 says: Mar 4, 2012 2:26 AM

    I dont get it, why punish the organization only.. Gre with 2 g’s clearly should be suspended! Just like that dude.from the jets who formed a wall on the sidelines. Take his ring punch him in the mouth and say thats for.manning and favre!

  64. devikesfan says: Mar 4, 2012 2:45 AM

    IIRC, Williams was slated to become the Redskins HC after Gibbs retired (again).
    But, after Gibbs was gone, Williams was fired.
    I wonder if Dan Snyder found out about these bounties, and let Williams go?
    IF so, I have a new respect for Snyder.

  65. enx31 says: Mar 4, 2012 3:03 AM

    NFL knew about this for a long time. But wow, better not reveal truth at an inconvenient time. That might be hard!

  66. tigobitties says: Mar 4, 2012 3:20 AM

    Hey Goodell…. maybe you should start investigating who the refs are paid by!?
    other then you.
    oh wait… it was the saints magical season… it was who you wanted to win because it was good for the city, = good story. I agree. but when your team is apart of the negative side of a scam you might be pissed also! Call me a blind viking fan, thats fine, but if you were in the same spot you might be upset also.

  67. tigobitties says: Mar 4, 2012 3:26 AM

    Sorry to be that guy, but really? lets look at this. not only did the saints have a bounty system, and target, on Farve in 09. ( any QB that season in playoffs) which is pretty obvious. and nothing was called!?
    I was well and done, not worried about the 09 NFC title game. until now, it lights a fire and makes me feel like my team got screwed.

    Gaurantee anyone that would have had that happen to their team would feel the same way

  68. themightywhitey says: Mar 4, 2012 3:51 AM

    the sad part is not that he was offering “well paid people ” money to hurt players ….its that these “well paid people ” were willing to do it for money …! I know they all have heard what goes around , comes around !!!!

  69. tatum064 says: Mar 4, 2012 4:04 AM

    mjkelly77 says:
    Mar 3, 2012 10:19 PM
    Jack Tatum, now spinning in his grave, can’t believe there are bounty programs where players actually attempt to hurt opponents.

    =================

    Back then, it was standard operating procedure to just obliterate people going across the middle. What bounty? It was football. Not just Tatum, either. Atwater, Rodney Harrison, Donnie Shell, Pat Fischer, Reinfeldt, a number of people used to explode on receivers….

  70. tatum064 says: Mar 4, 2012 4:07 AM

    gcsuk says:
    Mar 3, 2012 10:47 PM
    niquebchillin says:
    Mar 3, 2012 10:27 PM
    Spygate still way worse … Hitting always been apart of the game … If you ain’t notice the Saints dirty play before now then shut up … Just illegal motivation, not knowing plays formations of opponents ..
    ——————————————————–

    Speak English much?

    ======================

    How about…..Tom Brady G-A-G-G-E-D.

    Understand that?

  71. blackfootkiller says: Mar 4, 2012 4:45 AM

    You can’t change what happened 10 minutes ago. What’s with the witch hunt? The NFL is beginning to resemble our over bearing government…If they just keep creating new rules(Laws) people wont break all of the current ones.
    It hasn’t worked yet, and it never will.
    Human nature dictates the advantage of critical thinking. If you find an advantage, you will use it.
    It’s basic human nature…And no amount of rules and or laws, will stop human nature.

  72. marksgirl85 says: Mar 4, 2012 5:27 AM

    If you have to resort to cheating, then you must not have a lot of faith in your team.
    Cheaters never prosper…

  73. chucknorrissinspiration says: Mar 4, 2012 6:21 AM

    I think some of you folks are a bit soft, but then again this is an internet blog or whatever its called. When I played high school ball, i played to hurt and injur….with no bounty…yer gonna tell me that a couple extra hundred to a grand or so is supposed to make guys in the NFL play any harder?….really?….I’m for Greg and the bounties…and any other team that has them…bigmike7914 thank you sir. Many players have done worse on their own free time and played on. The powers that be will probably make an example of g. Williams, but for the sake of keeping football the best
    that god has ever created, let it go and move on.

  74. pnoy88 says: Mar 4, 2012 6:38 AM

    When haynesworth stomp the cowboys lineman, wonder if that was a bounty hit too?

  75. clavette says: Mar 4, 2012 7:00 AM

    just fine him and get it over with. tired of hearing about this already

  76. waltdawg says: Mar 4, 2012 7:17 AM

    Why in the hell would this have any implications to the SKINS???? Too far removed.

  77. daveydawg says: Mar 4, 2012 7:28 AM

    Quick, talk about spy gate…. Anytime someone does something, the spy gate trolls come out. The pats have almost won two more superbowls since that point, I think that debunks your favorite theory.

  78. mrv072 says: Mar 4, 2012 7:42 AM

    niquebchillin says:Mar 3, 2012 10:27 PM

    Spygate still way worse … Hitting always been apart of the game … If you ain’t notice the Saints dirty play before now then shut up … Just illegal motivation, not knowing plays formations of opponents

    You must be clueless to think that taping signals is way worse then putting a bounty on someone with the intent to injure and put him out of the game. Don’t get me wrong, Spygate was wrong but putting a bounty on someone is almost criminal.

  79. phillyforlife says: Mar 4, 2012 8:24 AM

    Really when you look at this and put it into prospective, it is really 1 competitor conspiring to put another out of the competition not unlike what Tonya Harding did to Nancy Kerrigan. And Tonya was banned from U.S. Figure Skating for life, And also She received three years probation, 500 hours of community service and a $160,000 fine. I know I know this is different because football is hitting and injuries happen , But it is same because if the injuries that are inflicted are on purpose it is premeditated assault and that is a crime in the laws eyes.

  80. redskin1 says: Mar 4, 2012 8:24 AM

    WHY SHOULD THE SKINS BE PENALIZED? THOSE COACHES ARE NO LONGER AROUND

  81. bigjd says: Mar 4, 2012 8:29 AM

    This will open a can of worms. If the start with penalizing teams because of this then they have to go back to games like the 1990 Eagles-Redskins “BodyBag” game. Buddy Ryan called it before the game. He said they would need body bags. That seems like intent to injure other players.

  82. portnoychunk says: Mar 4, 2012 9:04 AM

    niquebchillin says:
    Mar 3, 2012 10:27 PM
    Spygate still way worse … Hitting always been apart of the game … If you ain’t notice the Saints dirty play before now then shut up … Just illegal motivation, not knowing plays formations of opponents ..

    ^^^^^^^^^^
    The only thing the Pats did wrong was WHERE they put the cameras genius. All teams have people with binoculars or cameras trying to decipher play calls…that’s why assistants all cover their mouths when calling in plays. You are either not very smart, or a Saints/Skins fan. The two are not mutually exclusive.

  83. tinkletinkleonyourstar says: Mar 4, 2012 9:16 AM

    i’m glad all this came up, i had totally forgotten that i owe lawrence taylor some $$!!!

  84. tonyromoisterrible says: Mar 4, 2012 9:28 AM

    stairwayto7 says:
    Mar 3, 2012 11:04 PM
    Ban the deadskins and Aints from national tv or blackout all their home games! If this is news to the NFL, I guess the rat Goodell was slppeing on the job yet again or handing down suspensions with no mertit!

    __________________________________
    They teach exceptional English in Pittsburgh.

  85. 0sakpo says: Mar 4, 2012 10:23 AM

    I doubt that kid ever go to school at all…. I love how people scare of the RG to RS rumor, they know how much better RS will be with a good QB…..

  86. 8man says: Mar 4, 2012 10:27 AM

    niquebchillin says:
    Mar 3, 2012 10:27 PM
    Spygate still way worse … Hitting always been apart of the game … If you ain’t notice the Saints dirty play before now then shut up … Just illegal motivation, not knowing plays formations of opponents ..
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    You are as mentally deficient as is your handle. Actually supposing you have the capability to determine which situation is more detrimental to the game when you have probably never coached, played or managed in the league? Really?

    Taking video on the sideline is worse than paying one group of players to sideline or cripple another group of players? Really?

    You come off as someone with a hate on for the Patriots and are disappointed to find out that someone else bends the rules or steps outside of the guidelines. Hey, is either of these teams your favorite one?

    I’d like to slap you, but I don’t beat on little girls.

  87. j0esixpack says: Mar 4, 2012 10:46 AM

    Are all those who point to Spygate as “way worse” really that stupid or are is their jealousy just brainwashing them.

    Look up the rules folks. Filming and analyzing signals from cameras in the stands is legal and all teams do it. Cameras on the sidelines are prohibited because Goodell doesn’t want that to be so visible and blatant to clueless fans.

    How exactly have you all brainwashed yourselves into rationalizing why all coordinators on all teams still cover their mouths when calling plays?

    And I love the “Patriots haven’t won anything since they stopped cheating”

    Correct. They just came within a few points of winning two more Super Bowls and are the only team in history to go 16-0 in the regular season all since moving their cameras to the stands like all other teams.

    Stop embarrassing yourselves.

  88. badmojo148 says: Mar 4, 2012 11:37 AM

    Why doesn’t anybody actually learn the facts before( publishing/posting to ) an article like this? Matt Bowen was not a very good player for the Skins. Sounds like he is sour grapes. The COACHES didn’t organize the bounties. The PLAYERS did it the night before the games and put money in the pot from their own wallets. The TEAMS didn’t pay any bounties. So it doesn’t count against cap space. The teams shouldn’t lose draft picks because of it.If any punishment occurs, it should be on players like Bowen who have admitted to it.

  89. teal379 says: Mar 4, 2012 12:18 PM

    sariff420 says:
    Mar 4, 2012 1:41 AM
    To the person that said this is assault, are you kidding me ?? It is different than being in a street corner. This is their place of work . And their “work atmosphere” is comprised of violent hits and injuries occuring. Naive. Stop acting like this us flag football.
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    Go intentionally injure a cop. Their “work atmosphere” is comprised of violence as well.

    See if the legal system defines assault differently due to ones “work atmosphere”.

  90. lov2smile says: Mar 4, 2012 12:39 PM

    Anyone who has watched the NFL Network, has seen and heard the “Old Time” football players openly state, that hitting the opposing player in a manner to get them out of the game is common place.

    However, in my HMO it becomes offensive when there is a bounty involved.

    But as usual the media is blowing this out of proportion.

    On a similar note: I feel sorry for those that make a comparison to the Patriots situation. These people must live very depressing lives, as they seem to derive joy by demeaning others.

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