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Report: Saints punishment coming by March 25

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On Friday afternoon, the NFL announced that the Saints maintained a bounty program for three seasons, in violation of league rules.

But while the crime has been disclosed, the punishment has not yet been determined.  Jay Glazer of FOX reports that a decision from NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell is coming by March 25, the commencement of the league’s annual meetings.

Glazer says that an answer could arrive even sooner, within one or two weeks.

The initial announcement indicates that possible sanctions include fines, suspensions, and the forfeiture of draft picks.  Regardless of the final decision, the situation surely will overshadow every other NFL story until a decision is made.

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  1. lombardihero says: Mar 3, 2012 4:38 PM

    No doubt this needs to be taking care of asap or all we will be hearing about is this story through free agency and right up to the draft.

    Lets get this over with hand down the punishments and lets move on.

  2. j0esixpack says: Mar 3, 2012 4:41 PM

    Goodell took away the Patriots first rounder for placing their signal filming cameras on the sidelines instead of the stands like other teams still do (which is why all coordinators cover their mouths while calling in plays to this day.)

    But because most fans are unaware that all teams film signals Goodell feigned shock and horror and over reacted… and clueless fans to this day still seem unaware that all teams film signal calling from the stands.

    Now let’s see how seriously he takes a coordinated effort by the Saints and Redskins to physically harm other players.

  3. kepickle says: Mar 3, 2012 4:49 PM

    I think they should Kick Sean Payton & the Saints GM out of the NFL for life & strip them of all draft picks for this yr & bothe the 1st 2nd & 3rd pick next yr ………………………………But than me being a Panther Fan has nothing to do with

  4. docboss says: Mar 3, 2012 4:50 PM

    The questions will be: “how does this compare to Spygate, were the bounties tied to injury or just performance, and who lied to the Commish”? It is doubtful the Commish will do much unless there was an intent to injure and/or a cover up.

    I think $500,000 and a first round pick for the Saints, and a $250,000 fine and/or a four-six game suspension for both Payton and Williams w/o pay. What will be the Saints/Rams plans in the event they do not have their coaches?
    Perhaps they should consult Favre and Warner about the punishments.

  5. fumblenuts says: Mar 3, 2012 4:51 PM

    A friggin’ bounty to hurt other players……Williams SHOULD be kicked out of the NFL forever!

  6. tsutton84 says: Mar 3, 2012 4:53 PM

    Ray Lewis broke Rashard Mendenhall’s shoulder during his rookie season, and admitted that the Ravens had a bounty out on the outspoken Mendenhall. There is NO place for this in the NFL, giving people incentive pay for injuring players. The NFL ought to throw the book at the Saints.

  7. purplengold says: Mar 3, 2012 4:57 PM

    It’s good that they should have to wait for certain punishment.

  8. jerrykill4pres says: Mar 3, 2012 4:57 PM

    I think it’s funny they say by the 25th we will hear something…. When FA starts, who is going to want to sign with the ‘Aints? Why would you want to sign there when they will have some serious imposed sanctions against them. Why would you want to go to a team when they won’t have any draft picks to pick up any key blue chip talent? Why would you want to go there when your head coach might not be there next year?

    Nobody will want to negotiate with them. I think this is hilarious for the whole ‘Aints organization and fan base…. Only person i feel bad for is Tom Benson… He heard it was happening and he ordered his employees to put a stop to it… They just ignored an order from their boss…. Bums! THey should all be on the streets, and stripped of their lombardi trophy. That should be the year there was no super bowl, or it should be awarded to the Colts….

  9. time2speakup says: Mar 3, 2012 4:58 PM

    I absolutely hate hearing about this or that person losing a job. Hated it until I read this really stupid and dangerous practice was unveiled. I am old school – real old. Old enough to vividly recall watching Daryl Stingley (rest his soul) get hurt (I hasten to add that it was a solid, classic “football” hit). But seeing that is what keeps replaying in my mind each time I think of this – that people would go out of their way to hurt or maim. Let the owner keep his franchise of course, but everybody else – past and present -fired. Period! Unrealistic – Yes. But that’s how I feel and I offer NO apologies.-

  10. bigjimatch says: Mar 3, 2012 5:00 PM

    Punishment will not be that severe, just some fines that in the end, are a drop in the bucket for an NFL franchise. if the Patriots only lost a first round pick for blatant cheating, and this is not as big as that, then the punishment will be relatively minor, and of no signifigance to fans.

  11. ticalcaldwell says: Mar 3, 2012 5:02 PM

    That has to suck for Saints fans…I know how much speculation and fun leads up to the drafts….I feel you guys…how bout we just take your pick and give it to the Bengals……or give us Nicks….

  12. earneverything says: Mar 3, 2012 5:02 PM

    Who Dat? Who Dat? Who Dat going to lose them draft picks!

  13. nps6724 says: Mar 3, 2012 5:05 PM

    @joesixpack, I find it funny you point out how most fans are unaware of teams filming signals yet acting like bounties aren’t. Bounties have been around far longer than the filming of signals.

  14. ramofsteel says: Mar 3, 2012 5:06 PM

    I hope nothing happens to the Rams. They are the innocent bystanders in this case and just happen to be the team Williams signed w/. Only the Saints and Williams and himself should be punished. Draft picks gone for the Saints. A HEFTY fine and forfeit of some game checks for Williams.

  15. LoCoSu@%s says: Mar 3, 2012 5:10 PM

    Totally irrelevant, but I really !@#$#$ the sight (photo) of the hypocrite that is the commissioner

  16. httr73 says: Mar 3, 2012 5:11 PM

    I expect the Skins and any other team involved will get penalized in some way. However, in Washington’s case I don’t expect it will happen prior to the draft given how long it took to investigate the Saints and how long it is taking to hand out the punishment now that the findings are in. Having said that, I doubt this will impact the Skins ability to move draft picks for RG3.

  17. paulitik74 says: Mar 3, 2012 5:11 PM

    Hey that’s my birthday! What a fantastic birthday present for a Falcons fan!

  18. cags777 says: Mar 3, 2012 5:12 PM

    My suggestions for Goodell:

    1) Suspend Gregg Williams for an entire season without pay. Normally I would have been OK with a four-game suspension, but he has history doing this practice with other teams.

    2) Suspend all involved players in the bounty for half the season and fine them $100,000. Also make them spend time speaking to youth and other college players about how to play the game right and ethically.

    3) Fine Payton and Loomis $1 million each, and make them speak to other coaches and businesses about how you’re not supposed to run an organization.

    4) Strip the Saints away of all their draft picks this year, their first two next year, and the 2012 franchise tag rights they have on Drew Brees.

    Also time to hold refs and all NFL execs just as accountable for allowing this to go under the radar for so long.

  19. vikesfansteve says: Mar 3, 2012 5:12 PM

    The NFL needs to investigate the refs in that NFC Championship game of 09.

  20. londonbengal says: Mar 3, 2012 5:17 PM

    Get ready for the ‘hammer of god’……

    Expect to lose your first round picks, Saints and Redskins fans………

  21. broncobrewer says: Mar 3, 2012 5:22 PM

    I’m I the only one who thinks this is total B.S. I don’t see the big deal. I’m sure Williams learned it from a coach. So why not find that coach and fine him too. This is another example of the nfl going soft. How is this different than paying for a TD? Would it be different if the captain did it? I’m sure every team does it. Hell I wish the Broncos did it so them could tackle an Rb.
    So you mean to tell me that any injury that happened against the Saints or vikings is going to be investigated that’s just dumb. This is ridiculous. The Saints would’ve won the super bowl anyway bc Favre was bound to choke.

  22. yepimgr8 says: Mar 3, 2012 5:24 PM

    They should be put on trial. Premeditated assault deserves jail time.

  23. bigdaddy44 says: Mar 3, 2012 5:28 PM

    The penalties for Spygate should pale in comparison to the penalties for Bountygate. Although both incidents were done by multiple teams over the years, there is a big difference between the two. Spygate was the gamesmanship of trying to decipher a teams signals, and constantly keeping the pressure on them to change signals, even during the same game. Most teams had some sort of system in place for this, every team knew what was going on and any fan who was at a game could see with their own eyes that teams were constantly trying to guard against someone stealing their signals. It was not news to ANYBODY in the NFL, but the Patriots were the most open about it and they were made an example of after Mangina and Tannebaum squealed.
    Bountygate also involves the type of behavior that is not news to anyone in the league, but the difference is it promotes intent to injure and salary cap violations. Now there are three Hall of Fame quarterbacks (Manning, Favre, Warner)whose injuries, which could have been career threatening, have come into question from defenses where Gregg Williams had his bounty system in place.
    The punishment for these types of actions will shock the football world when handed out.
    Also, I would like there to be an investigation to see if there was a bounty system in place in Kansas City when Bernard Pollard took a dive at Tom Brady’s knees, in effect taking two seasons away from him, and putting his career in jeopardy.

  24. mrslay1 says: Mar 3, 2012 5:31 PM

    There should be a major penality for the owner, and coaches and players who participated. But you cannot punish players like Brees for what some did. They should take away there franchise tag for this year and next and not allow them to have the 1st round picks that go with the FA trade. A millon dollar fine to the owner and coach. let the players that took the bounty pay $100,000 fine and deal with the IRS for their tax evasion!

  25. northsidesteel says: Mar 3, 2012 5:37 PM

    While I can appreciate the outrage from the NFL front office, the idea of bounty money actually effect the way any NFL player would play his position is questionable at best. It is really more of an office pool, circumstance of the action in any play is what causes injury. I can see the extra twist of an ankle or eye gouge during a fumble pile up, but we have all known that has been going on since before Rockne. To think a linebacker or safety would sacrifice whatever scheme he is in to try and collect $1,500 is laughable. Don’t misunderstand me, I think the front office has to react with a damaging fine, but to paint these coaches and men as monsters is over the top

  26. stevenfbrackett says: Mar 3, 2012 5:41 PM

    In addition to cags777 ‘s suggestions, I would add banishment from the post season, regardless of record, equal to the number of years the bounty system was practiced – with a max-out at 10. Of course, if they are caught doing it again during the 10 years, add on more.

    Never happen,but, boy would that get all the team’s attention.

  27. couchbasher says: Mar 3, 2012 5:42 PM

    IN THIS PHOTO: Goddell asks himself….how do I destroy the video tapes on this?

  28. draftdoctor says: Mar 3, 2012 5:42 PM

    The Vikings were clearly the most prominent victims of the Saint’s crimes. The unnecessary beating Favre took in the NFC title game is a matter of record. The bounty system may well have cost the Vikings the Super Bowl. Accordingly the Saints should forfeit a high draft pick to the Vikings IMHO. That punishment will assure that teams do not put careers in jeopardy again.

  29. greatminnesotasportsmind says: Mar 3, 2012 5:44 PM

    They should forfeit their Super Bowl and give it to where it belongs: Brett Favre’s Wraglers back pocket and Minnesota has their first Super Bowl victory.

  30. bangreggwilliams says: Mar 3, 2012 5:46 PM

    My favorite day of the year is usually draft day, but this year March 25th will be even more fun.

    Who Dat going to get what’s coming to ‘em? The lying/cheating/injuring Saints – that’s who.

  31. jct32191 says: Mar 3, 2012 5:50 PM

    I think all of you idiots who keep saying the saints should lose everything they have are truly ignorant to the game of football. You think the saints are redskins are the only teams to put out bounties? What are you suppose to do on the field playing football if not to punish the oppenent? This isn’t flag football.

  32. numberoneinthehoodg says: Mar 3, 2012 5:50 PM

    Disclosure: I do not accept or condone what the Saints have done ok!

    Maybe PFT could look into the conspiracy (hell, I’ll start it) that the NFL is not willing to shell out cash to teams that need new stadiums if they are not going to get their return. The Saints have a stadium that is over 30 years old (give or take). In the long run, the NFL isn’t willing to continue to allow a small market team to continue to milk the cow without providing dividends. They will pick and choose when and whom they want to make an example of. The Redskins will get a smaller slap because of revenue, etc.. Fans of teams that have outdated stadiums especially in small markets that get caught up in shenanigans will be punished to the point that they no longer exist. Dare I say that the Saint’s could be the team that moves to Los Angeles? Not saying today, but watch how the NFL squeezes out some of the smaller markets.

    Except when you can sell “stock”.

  33. thumper59 says: Mar 3, 2012 5:53 PM

    This prob had an impact on nfc championship game against minnesota,,, they really went after farve

  34. hitwithafade says: Mar 3, 2012 5:54 PM

    hope you bengal fans enjoy Janoris Jenkins…his signing bonus should go straight to the government
    to pay for those kids he made

  35. 8man says: Mar 3, 2012 5:55 PM

    Hmm. As a Patriots fan, I feel bad for Saints and Redskins fans. It’s a bit embarassing and God knows, fans of other teams just love to get their digs in.

    Here’s the point. There are only 32 franchises in the NFL and occasionally, one or two do something questionable and get slammed. Well, after the punishment comes and the Saints and Redskins and their fans endure it, it’ll be time to move on.

    Glass houses and all that….

    And like it or not PFT Planet, the Saints are a legitimate Super Bowl contender/favorite, can beat any NFL team on a given day or destroy them in New Orleans and the Skins play in the capital of the free world. Let the jealous rants begin.

  36. 6ball says: Mar 3, 2012 6:03 PM

    .

    Make em take Santonio Holmes and name him captain.

    When the answer to “Who Dat ” is Santonio, they’ll change their ways.

    .

  37. footballfan292 says: Mar 3, 2012 6:06 PM

    It’s the old saying…it’s not just the crime, it’s the cover-up.

    Payton and Loomis lied to the NFL and tried to obstruct the investigation. That’s the reason the hammer will be hard against them. Goodell does not like being lied to. Very heavy fines and a loss of picks needs to be the punishment.

    If Gregg Williams has been doing this since the Redskins days, he needs to be thrown out of the league.

  38. mocards says: Mar 3, 2012 6:06 PM

    What I don’t get is why the NFL gave the Saints the Hall of Fame slot for this year. I mean, when the league announced they and the Cardinals would be playing — which was only a week ago — it had to know that the bounty investigation had uncovered serious violations. Why, then, on the eve of the probe becoming public, would the league in effect hand out a reward to the very team at the heart of the alleged wrongdoing? Strange (mixed) signals to send.

  39. gothwolf says: Mar 3, 2012 6:09 PM

    The Saints had the program in place for three years? Then they lose their next three first round picks.

    All coaches involved in this are banned for life, including Peyton if he knew. Otherwise he just gets a one year suspension for NOT knowing.

    I think they’re should also be the possibility of criminal or civil suits against the team on behalf of any player injured while playing the Saints for the past three years.

    I think you also put an asterisk by Super Bowl XLIV.

  40. kevpft says: Mar 3, 2012 6:10 PM

    Want to stop this? Here’s how to stop this:

    1) Void the Saints’ Super Bowl win.
    2) Ban Williams, Payton, and the GM from the NFL.
    3) Fine all the players involved their entire 2009 salaries.
    4) Remove all 2012 draft picks from the Saints.

    And it never happens again. Easy.

  41. lilbittyme says: Mar 3, 2012 6:25 PM

    Ok now I have a problem! You people act like the Saints are the only team to do this bounty. Well guess what, they are not!!! They are just the only ones to get caught because the finally won a super bowl. Every team in the NFL does this. So for all those people who claim their team are angels, wake up! They are not!!!

  42. chachanola says: Mar 3, 2012 6:28 PM

    Wow. Please now you all sound like idiots. This isn’t college and did the hammer of god make hoodie take a seat? If the bounty was so intact over the past 2 seasons.. lets be honest that was the crappiest defense I’ve seen in 2 seasons. They asked Brett Farve about it…. His answer he was not upset its footbal and there are guys that do he same thiing for no money. Mind you he lives in Mississippi…and of all playoff games this past season which one was he at? Suh did the same thing this season..im sure there was no pot butnhe got some atta boys for it. Stop with the bleeding heart , too rough, BS. If it’s for the faint of heart and they were truly bothered . No one would play but every year their is a influx of athletes that want their chance.

  43. packerswambulance says: Mar 3, 2012 6:34 PM

    NFL is going to put itself on the level of WWF if Roger Goodell goes light on the penalty to the Saints and Williams etc…
    Trying to injure someone and have them sent off the field in a cart is a criminal assault.
    The hits to Favre in the NFCCG were intended to send him off the field in a cart. If he was not injured he probably runs for the first down and Longwell wins the game. It sure did change the course of NFL history, and it was cheating.
    Take the trophy away, suspend coaches and players involved, forfeit draft picks, AND INVESTIGATE THE REFS OF THAT GAME!!!
    Otherwise this thing might get away from you and you’ll find your legacy as Commish is less the guy that took it to another level, and more outraged clown Vince McMahon.

  44. time2speakup says: Mar 3, 2012 6:35 PM

    Playing the game right and using good and proper blocking and tackling techniques still makes the NFL one of the top 2 or 3 roughest sports known to humankind. So this type activity is not called for – or in any way necessary. We all love this game to the ength degree – and this just makes me feel sad to regard another human being in such low esteem.

  45. linemanguy74 says: Mar 3, 2012 6:39 PM

    What is he going to do with the refs they were just as guilty as the players for not calling the cheap shots !!!!!!!

  46. terryleather says: Mar 3, 2012 6:47 PM

    “Regardless of the final decision, the situation surely will overshadow every other NFL story until a decision is made.”

    Really? This? I really couldn’t care less about this story. It’s meaningless. I’m sure that every team that has a great defense does it, and I don’t see it as that big of a deal. As a matter of fact, I congratulate the Saints. It’s up to the offense to block them.

  47. gotampabay52 says: Mar 3, 2012 6:50 PM

    love it slap the saints hard i want to see brown bags on the ugly cajun women and aints across their chest Go Bucs

  48. hooterdawg says: Mar 3, 2012 6:59 PM

    “Regardless of the final decision, the situation surely will overshadow every other NFL story until a decision is made.”

    So finally you declare that the Peyton story is no longer the #1 story of the NFL?

  49. bigbluefan1 says: Mar 3, 2012 7:08 PM

    To late to really kickk NO in the sack
    Take the Bowl out of NO next year
    Now that will teach NO its not nice to mess with uncle rodger

  50. bigbadal21 says: Mar 3, 2012 7:12 PM

    Some of these reponses border on lunacy. Plus to even have losing the francise tag in the mix is just stupid. Draft picks, fines and suspensions is what could be in the mix of punishment. There will not be a multi year draft pick taken away. There will be fines and suspensions. The real issue here is the coverup. That is why the sanctions will be pursued.

  51. teal379 says: Mar 3, 2012 7:19 PM

    Love the Saints homers all crying about how “everyone else does it”…

    Well with that rationale – I wonder how you’d feel if someone intentionally hurt one of your loved ones and walked away, scott free because “hey, everyone else does it”

    If someone intentionally put your loved one on a cart with a hit, intentionally tried to concuss them, intentionally blew out their knees – all for a cash payment – and they walked.

    Simply walked.

    “Hey everyone else does it. Don’t think other teams do it!” <- weakest argument ever for this and the product of small thinkers and immature children.

  52. bouwel92 says: Mar 3, 2012 7:27 PM

    this is ridiculos the only reason there makin such a big deal outta this is because the superbowls in new orleans this year and they know that the saints are serious contenders every dam team in the leauge puts bounties on players take out the top threat and you can win easier thats why its a compition sport take out the biggest competiter and they shouldnt be able to take draft picks away from any team cuz wat does that have to do with any disiplunary suspensions and fines yes but theres no reason to mess with draft picks but then again i guess i forgot that rodger goodell is the anti christ of football but all this bounty thing aint nothin but a big heap of bs

  53. melikefootball says: Mar 3, 2012 7:34 PM

    I read 51 comments and not one mention of Harrison and the Steelers, what happen to you guys.

  54. 6burghgirl says: Mar 3, 2012 7:44 PM

    To all of you who consistenly call the Steelers ‘cheaters’, I suggest you rethink who you accuse of cheating. Cheating is not a call that you think is bad, cheating is not winning the game in the last seconds, cheating is not playing hard football.

    Cheating is Spygate and Cheating is Bounty-hunting. Cheating is HAVING to do those things to win.

    Don’t do anything to the Saints. Let Karma take care of it ~ right Brady-Boy?

  55. matthewcarlson1 says: Mar 3, 2012 7:46 PM

    I’m sick of people throwing out that lame excuse “everyone is doing it.” If that was true then why are the aints the only ones getting called out? If every team tapes signals on the sidelines then why are the Patriots the only ones who got in trouble?

  56. spyboots says: Mar 3, 2012 7:54 PM

    Both Spygate and Bountygate were CHEATING, 2 different methods, one for 7 years and 3 Super Bowls (much worse) and one for 3 years and 1 SuperBowl. (All 4 tainted.) Patriots got a slap on the wrist, so Saints will probably be whipped with a wet noodle.

  57. j0esixpack says: Mar 3, 2012 7:56 PM

    It’s hilarious… Even on this very string of responses you see fan after fan who seems to think that other teams are not filming and stealing signal calling (albeit from the stands where the NFL allows them to do so)

    Don’t these so called football fans wonder why ALL coordinators cover their mouths when calling in plays?

    Do they actually not think ALL teams aren’t filming and analyzing play calling?

    Their ignorance is nothing short of embarrassing.

  58. northsidesteel says: Mar 3, 2012 7:58 PM

    Because like the Patriots, they are the ones that got caught.

  59. leatherface2012 says: Mar 3, 2012 8:05 PM

    as a viking fan, i say give jared allen 20 unblocked rushes at drew brees with brees’s back turned. kevin williams grabbing him on top, allen coming in well below waist level…..yep that would pretty much do it

  60. matthewcarlson1 says: Mar 3, 2012 8:09 PM

    Shut up about the Steelers.. First of all NOBODY CARES Second This article has nothing to do with your team.. the only people who find the Steelers interesting live in pittsburgh.

  61. ericn42000 says: Mar 3, 2012 8:32 PM

    Beat them with a stick!

  62. bigbluefan1 says: Mar 3, 2012 8:36 PM

    I thought the saints were favored to win the SB last year how did that work out?
    As I recall the aints were beat by Alex Smith?
    Yeah sounds like a contender to me.

    I still think move the Super Bowl out of NO
    There is no reason the fans or the city should profit from it they back low life cheaters.

    A team that can not win with out playing by the rules has no business hosting the biggest event of the year.

    Payton should be gone for a season and that is just for starters maybe a million or so in fines and then there is the cap rules

  63. aljack88 says: Mar 3, 2012 8:39 PM

    6burghgirl says:
    Mar 3, 2012 7:44 PM
    To all of you who consistenly call the Steelers ‘cheaters’, I suggest you rethink who you accuse of cheating. Cheating is not a call that you think is bad, cheating is not winning the game in the last seconds, cheating is not playing hard football.

    Cheating is Spygate and Cheating is Bounty-hunting. Cheating is HAVING to do those things to win.

    Don’t do anything to the Saints. Let Karma take care of it ~ right Brady-Boy?
    ———————————————————-
    “Gambling” that karma will take care of matters? Nothing sadder than self righteous Steeler fans throwing stones.

  64. vikingdoode says: Mar 3, 2012 8:44 PM

    As far as giving the Vikings the super bowl trophy, I’m not sure if they could have beaten the Colts. That year they barely won the Ravens and lost to a bad Steelers team. I’d be thinking the Colts would be first in line. I think GODdel will do the same as what he did to the Patriots for Spy gate…… Draft choice bye bye…….Williams should be out for a year as well as the GM…….. Shawn Payton can’t get away with out getting spanked too!

  65. leatherface2012 says: Mar 3, 2012 8:44 PM

    saints now have a superdome sized bullseye on their backs

  66. broncobrewer says: Mar 3, 2012 8:47 PM

    You people are idiots to say the only reason the saints won the NFC championship game was bc of the bounties. Everyone knows that if you put pressure on Farve he gets reckless he’s always been that way. Hell any qb is like that. Get over it. This whole thing is stupid. I don’t think anything should happen to the Saints, redskins or anyone bc everyone does it. Just like spygate when it went to another team and Mcidiot got caught doing it, I’m sure one of Williams guys will get caught down the line. This whole thing is just part of Godell’s pussification of the NFL. Like I’ve said before they’ll be wearing flags in 10 yrs.

  67. mattw70 says: Mar 3, 2012 8:48 PM

    You can tell which comments come from people who hate the team being mention.”TAKE AWAY THEIR DRAFT PICKS” A big fine or suspenions would be more in line with punishing the management of that team.Losing draft picks also hurt the fans of that team,who did nothing.

  68. annes22 says: Mar 3, 2012 9:04 PM

    I hope the NFL take away some draft picks, and fine them heavily. The owner and head coach
    should be ashamed of themselves, for letting this happen. Greg Williams should get his punishment too, and I hope it’s big. These players get too much money anyway, and they have to get even more doing this. Sean Payton was responsible for this team.
    What a disgrace.

  69. bigperm33 says: Mar 3, 2012 9:05 PM

    Way to take quick decisive action Roger. Nothing quite like letting a negative story linger for almost a month. More solid work by the commish.

  70. musicman495 says: Mar 3, 2012 9:26 PM

    They should forfeit their Super Bowl and give it to where it belongs: Brett Favre’s Wraglers back pocket and Minnesota has their first Super Bowl victory.
    —————————————-
    At 0-4 so far, that is the only way Minnesota is likely to win one.

  71. musicman495 says: Mar 3, 2012 9:27 PM

    I still think move the Super Bowl out of NO
    There is no reason the fans or the city should profit from it they back low life cheaters.
    —————
    Congratulations, that is truly the most stupid suggestion I have heard since the story broke.

  72. tommynatorii says: Mar 3, 2012 9:46 PM

    Easy on the owner. Remember, who knew? And when did they know it?

  73. barroomhero80 says: Mar 3, 2012 9:52 PM

    Give the Vikes their draft picks for screwing them out of their first Super Bowl

  74. legeisyaj says: Mar 3, 2012 10:02 PM

    Ban Williams for 2 years from any nfl position. Fine Payton atleast 500k. If what we are reading is true (or just the bones of truth even) this is far far worse than the Spygate stupidity. We will see how serious the nfl is now, with their pending punishment.

  75. portnoychunk says: Mar 3, 2012 10:17 PM

    matthewcarlson1 says: Mar 3, 2012 8:09 PM

    Shut up about the Steelers.. First of all NOBODY CARES Second This article has nothing to do with your team.. the only people who find the Steelers interesting live in pittsburgh.

    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

    Actually, most of them have moved away because Pittsburgh is a cesspool. This is why there are so many terrible towels on the road.

  76. portnoychunk says: Mar 3, 2012 10:19 PM

    aljack88 says: Mar 3, 2012 8:39 PM

    6burghgirl says:
    Mar 3, 2012 7:44 PM
    To all of you who consistenly call the Steelers ‘cheaters’, I suggest you rethink who you accuse of cheating. Cheating is not a call that you think is bad, cheating is not winning the game in the last seconds, cheating is not playing hard football.

    Cheating is Spygate and Cheating is Bounty-hunting. Cheating is HAVING to do those things to win.

    Don’t do anything to the Saints. Let Karma take care of it ~ right Brady-Boy?

    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

    Cheating=steroids=Steelers. Clear enough for ya?

  77. gobirds215 says: Mar 3, 2012 10:20 PM

    Saints Defense ran a Bounty program and got smoked by Alex Smith in the playoffs?? Isn’t that punishment enough???

  78. siggtacular says: Mar 3, 2012 10:24 PM

    Forfeit the first round draft pick. Though im a Ravens fan, im very disappointed in the Saints organization. Im remarkably glad the Ravens Nation has Ozzie Newsome and John Harbaugh on our side, a quality organization.

  79. dkeyser says: Mar 3, 2012 10:40 PM

    What do you fools think defensive players get a salary to go do?? It isnt deliver flowers. Its to go out and hit and punish the offensive player… I cant remember how many interviews ive seen where a defensive player has gone on tv or radio and said they wanted to hurt the man with the ball. Make him regret ever stepping on the field.. Now its a big deal because of the pussified product that is being shoved down the throats of fans..

  80. scomibord says: Mar 3, 2012 11:03 PM

    It.s apparent , the Hate for the NO Saints! As a lifelong member of the who dat nation, you ViQueen fans are the biggest pansies around!!! Brett didn’t and still doesn’t have a problem with the hits he received in the nfccg!! Holy crap, that was three-four years ago. No wonder purple is your team color! You want a lombardi trophy in that case, put together a team that can win it, pansies

  81. stairwayto7 says: Mar 3, 2012 11:18 PM

    Goodell will say here is the punishment: The Saints will open the season on the road vs the Giants on Sept 5 and the Redskins will play thier 1st road game Monday Sept 17 vs the Giants! Thats all folks!!!!

  82. zn0rseman says: Mar 3, 2012 11:40 PM

    Putting bounties out to injure or disable players in any sport, is dastardly. It’s one of those thing that had no place in any level of any sport.

    I read one fool who said this isn’t as bad as Spygate. Wrong. It’s much, much worse and needs to be dealt with as such. This goes for the Redskins and the Saints. The time to make an example for the rest of the league is now.

    $0.02,

    –Z

  83. rajbais says: Mar 4, 2012 12:52 AM

    Dun Dun Dun

  84. nps6724 says: Mar 4, 2012 2:21 AM

    siggtacular says: Mar 3, 2012 10:24 PM

    Forfeit the first round draft pick. Though im a Ravens fan, im very disappointed in the Saints organization. Im remarkably glad the Ravens Nation has Ozzie Newsome and John Harbaugh on our side, a quality organization.

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    This the same organization that employs Terrell Suggs, who in 2008 admitted on a radio show they put out a bounty on both Hines Ward and Rashard Mendenhall? And who also employs Ray Lewis, who after injuring Mendenhall in that game, gloated about it to Sports Illustrated? Just checking.

  85. nola59 says: Mar 4, 2012 6:05 AM

    Alright, alright, let’s not get our panties in a bunch. And y’all need to chil out, with all the hostility towards the Saints because of your various reasons for discontented with the Lombardi they were able to earn. With that said does anyone actually think the game is played differently or any less physically because the players (and irresponsible coaches) made inside wagers on their prowess over another team. Although I’m sure at this point many of you have decided to disagree with any vantage point I take, allow me to elaborate that I think that this bounty system is wrong, and encourages the wrong aspects of a contact sport, no question there. Injuring an opponent should not be celebrated. But it’s a far cry from cheating. Aside from the fact that teams all over have done this for ages, and that Williams has likely been a large part of that cancerous mind set, does anyone think that it’s unfair to the other teams. Do you suppose they’re are only going half speed or not trying to inflict pain and possibly injury? I think Williams’ construction of these unsportsman-like incentives should be stomped out, but arguing that the team should be stripped what they’ve earned in the past or can earn in the future is ignorantly arguing to dull the competition for your team. Give it a rest. If you think that football games aren’t won by making big hits and delivering damage, and that every team isn’t vying to be more aggressive than their opponent, you must not be well acquainted with football. May I suggest in this case, that you find a new sport. I’m sure there’s room for you in the tennis fan base, for instance.

  86. mrsamk says: Mar 4, 2012 7:06 AM

    This isn’t about cheating or abut the nfl becoming “soft” this is about setting goals a prescient. I love a hard hitting defense as much as the next person but the small fact all have looked over is that this “bounty” system could lead to the death of a player. I know I know it is unlikely but there is still a possibility. And you can’t ignore that… not when good, hard, legal hits end in concussions, broken bones and bruised internal organs. This isn’t about a serious season or career ending injury but a life ending one. People are speculating about the nfl’s sustainability because of the concussions and parents being weary of allowing their sons play… think of the problem an accidental death would cause with sustainability. I know football is a physical sport which is why I love it but bounties are just too much. A bounty isn’t even about money. It is a team getting together and admitting they don’t think their team can beat their opponent because of a few players and then saying let’s you and I play to hurt and forget the actual game.
    Bounties are for teams who think they won’t win a real man-to-man game. And that is what football is supposed to be and THAT is why there is no further place in football for it.

  87. ackattack22 says: Mar 4, 2012 8:33 AM

    The Saints didn’t earn anything. It is now documented that they CHEATED. Their Super Bowl victory will always need an asterisk next to it. It was obvious that the NFL wanted to “gift” New Orleans with the Super Bowl title three years ago in order to make it a “feel good” story because of Katrina. How else can you explain the poor officiating in the NFC Championship game? They were told to look the other way. Given the strong visual evidence, the NFL even sent a letter of apology to the Vikings afterwards admitting the refs missed some obvious calls. I have a ton of respect for Drew Brees and the offense, but Sean Payton, Greggggg Williams and the defensive players who participated in “bountygate” are punks and cheaters and the Super Bowl victory will be forever tainted. Enjoy your sanctions Saints fans because Goodell has no choice but to make an example out of you.

  88. zn0rseman says: Mar 4, 2012 9:47 AM

    The Saints one a Super Bowl as a direct result of their bounty hunting activities. (See Brett Favre’s busted up ribs and ankle.)

    Viking fans, how many draft picks do you think a Lombardi Trophy is worth?

    The penalty to the Saints should be no less.

  89. tommytd says: Mar 4, 2012 10:21 AM

    I wonder if he will handle this situation as well as he handled the Farve b.s. LOL

  90. seveninc2000 says: Mar 4, 2012 10:33 AM

    This is unbearable in so many ways, ladies it’s football, from youth, 6 yr boys on defense are taught to make hard tackles, to disrupt, blow up and destroy opposing teams, from that momment throughout a defenders career, the object is to destroy your competitor emotionally and physically, Jr high, high school and college, this happens on the field and in the stands, as a fan most hate to see the injuries, but if a player is kicking your teams butt you celebrate and welcomes his exit. I understand Roger wanting a safer league, this is a ugly part of the sports world, and what has made football great, the mean Joe Green, Art Donavan, Mel Blunt, Dick Butkus, and others, kill shots, hard hits, nose bubbles, broken bones, Joe Theisman and Lawrence Tayler, people It’s football, and the weak cheer from the sidelines

  91. dougy1970 says: Mar 4, 2012 12:16 PM

    Cheater Saints’ penalty should be to continue to have to pretend that elvin Drew Brees “Who we?” pregame chant gets them fired up.

  92. siggtacular says: Mar 4, 2012 1:00 PM

    First of all, watch your disrespectful mouth when you talk about Ray Lewis. Second of all, I was talking about OZZIE NEWSOME AND JOHN HARBAUGH. Also, your talking about Terrell Suggs, the 2011 NFL Defensive Player of the year. Yeah he may have said that, but wasn’t it Brady Quinn who intentionally took a shot at Suggs’ knee the same year? Once again, I was talking about our ORGANIZATION. Go somewhere else with that hate, sit down.
    RAVENS NATION

  93. nps6724 says: Mar 4, 2012 1:31 PM

    siggtacular says: Mar 4, 2012 1:00 PM

    First of all, watch your disrespectful mouth when you talk about Ray Lewis. Second of all, I was talking about OZZIE NEWSOME AND JOHN HARBAUGH. Also, your talking about Terrell Suggs, the 2011 NFL Defensive Player of the year. Yeah he may have said that, but wasn’t it Brady Quinn who intentionally took a shot at Suggs’ knee the same year? Once again, I was talking about our ORGANIZATION. Go somewhere else with that hate, sit down.
    RAVENS NATION

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    Exactly. Newsome and Harbaugh are in charge of the ORGANIZATION yet they did nothing to circumvent the bounty their players put out on other players. I don’t know if Quinn did that, but then I’m not condemning one team/player while defending others for the same behavior.

    Truth be told, I like the Ravens. Ray Lewis is one of my favorite players for not only being a HOF-level player for his entire career, but doing it all for one team *and* being their emotional leader for over 15 years. But it’s ridiculous for you to bash the Saints about bounties when the Ravens had a very public issue with one a few years ago. The Ravens were lucky there wasn’t any substantial evidence, if the NFL investigated at all.

  94. nps6724 says: Mar 4, 2012 1:37 PM

    The funniest part of all these comments are the still-butthurt Viking fans who think the bounties are why they lost that NFC Championship game. Even after 2 years, those tears taste just as sweet.

    You can take all their draft picks, you can add an asterisk, it still won’t change two facts:

    1. The Saints have a Lombardi trophy.
    2. The Vikings don’t.

  95. j0esixpack says: Mar 4, 2012 1:54 PM

    All this righteousness over “cheating” in the NFL is actually pretty funny.

    George Halas and Lamar Hunt were the pioneers of what so many in this thread term “cheating” and they’re both honored members of the Hall of Fame.

    Heck, they name the AFC Championship Trophy after Hunt.

    I actually suspect that a great many coaches, teams and players have had various forms of bounty/incentives now and throughout the NFL history. Like filming play calling every team does it.

    It’s just fun to watch Goodell base his punishment not on reality but on how the perceived perception of what is and always has been is received.

  96. siggtacular says: Mar 4, 2012 2:24 PM

    Well obviously there wasn’t sufficient evidence if there was no investigation. Okay, I respect you defending your team. Your obviously a Saints fan in defense mode. However, no matter the situation, the Ravens aren’t in the same situation that the Saints currently got themselves into. I can’t stand New England, but they were stripped of their first round draft pick over Spygate. Bountygate is probably twice as bad, with notable players like Vilma admitting to throwing 10grand reward on a table to the player that injures the QB. It’s a fair penalty. It would be unjust to penalize the patriots and not the saints. I’m no saints hater, I only HATE the Steelers. Vikings fans have a right to be upset, but the past is the past. It wasn’t on all of the Saints players that year, they put on a hell of a season and earned their Super Bowl. However, this situation needs to be addressed and I believe the forfeit of the first round pick is satisfactory. I would say the same if the Ravens were in the same pickle now. Same for the Steelers, Bengals, Eagles, Cardinals, it doesn’t matter, your team messed up and now the saints must take responsibility for their actions.

  97. jokendave says: Mar 4, 2012 2:31 PM

    In a straight up game that year, the Saints would have lost. It wasn’t just the bounties. It was the ref’s also.(Bought and paid for). The Saint knew it other wise the bounties wouldn’t been called for. The Vikings were strong in the playoffs. Loseing games in the regular season doesn’t count. The playoffs are different. It was the most noteable game of causalty and should lose a pick for each year continued. 3 picks including a 1st. And time off to reflect and go over ethics rules. A fine always makes you pay attention better. The new theme should be. “Who Da Wasn’t”.

  98. nps6724 says: Mar 4, 2012 3:28 PM

    siggtacular says: Mar 4, 2012 2:24 PM

    Well obviously there wasn’t sufficient evidence if there was no investigation. Okay, I respect you defending your team. Your obviously a Saints fan in defense mode. However, no matter the situation, the Ravens aren’t in the same situation that the Saints currently got themselves into. I can’t stand New England, but they were stripped of their first round draft pick over Spygate. Bountygate is probably twice as bad, with notable players like Vilma admitting to throwing 10grand reward on a table to the player that injures the QB. It’s a fair penalty. It would be unjust to penalize the patriots and not the saints. I’m no saints hater, I only HATE the Steelers. Vikings fans have a right to be upset, but the past is the past. It wasn’t on all of the Saints players that year, they put on a hell of a season and earned their Super Bowl. However, this situation needs to be addressed and I believe the forfeit of the first round pick is satisfactory. I would say the same if the Ravens were in the same pickle now. Same for the Steelers, Bengals, Eagles, Cardinals, it doesn’t matter, your team messed up and now the saints must take responsibility for their actions.

    ——————————————–

    I’m fine with punishing the Saints, even though I’m a fan. They broke the rules *and* there’s apparently either evidence, witnesses, or both. My only problem is with all the sanctimonious, holier-than-thou pontificating going on by fans and the media. Bounties have been around for a loooooong time so the feign outrage over it is ridiculous. Especially when former NFL players write books with stories of bounties, when former *and* current NFL players take pride in what non-penalized acts go on in the pile, and when other teams have committed similar acts (regardless of whether there was evidence).

    The NFL and their broadcasts (whether it’s on NBC, FOX, CBS, ESPN, or NFLN) celebrate big knock-out hits, both legal and illegal and they also celebrate NFL history, which includes teams like the 70s-80s Raiders and other notorious figures such as Ronnie Lott. Ronnie Lott would be banned for life if he played today yet he’s a celebrated HOFer (and rightfully so).

    When Spygate hit, everyone jumped on their soapbox to condemn the Pats. And then we found out multiple teams were doing the EXACT SAME THING and Jimmy Johnson even admitted on FOX to doing it himself in 1989 and was taught how to do it by a Kansas City scout.

    I have zero problem with punishing any team, even my favorite, for breaking the rules. But I’m tired of everyone else hopping on their pedestal to condemn them when there are many other offenders who simply haven’t been caught. The same thing happened with Spygate and it happens every time there’s a tampering claim and when any other rule is broken. It’s ridiculous, but we as a people just love any opportunity to judge others and to be outraged.

  99. nps6724 says: Mar 4, 2012 3:31 PM

    jokendave says: Mar 4, 2012 2:31 PM

    In a straight up game that year, the Saints would have lost. It wasn’t just the bounties. It was the ref’s also.(Bought and paid for). The Saint knew it other wise the bounties wouldn’t been called for. The Vikings were strong in the playoffs. Loseing games in the regular season doesn’t count. The playoffs are different. It was the most noteable game of causalty and should lose a pick for each year continued. 3 picks including a 1st. And time off to reflect and go over ethics rules. A fine always makes you pay attention better. The new theme should be. “Who Da Wasn’t”.

    ——————————————–

    And there were several calls that weren’t called on the Vikes, including Jared Allen piledriving Brees into the turf. A call that *was* made against the Saints earlier in the night. But keep crying. The tears taste better when aged.

    Saints – 1
    Vikings – 0

    Bounties didn’t change who the better team was. They didn’t give the Saints an additional man on the field (though I guess the Vikes thought that entitled them to 12?). You lost because of turnovers.

    And even if you beat the Saints, Peyton Manning was waiting. Quit acting like beating the Saints = guaranteed Lombardi. The Saints earned it. The Vikes still haven’t.

  100. jokendave says: Mar 4, 2012 5:28 PM

    The 12 man on the field was called. Jared A. was playing legal and Bree’s wasn’t hurt. And didn’t say the Vikings would have won the SB. I said on an even playing field the Saints would have lost and the bounties prove it. Colts would have played according to the team, so I wouldn’t say Vikings would win a game they didn’t play.Saints only earned it in their fans eyes. Dirty play is dirty play. The Vikings weren’t intenionally playing dirty and the Saints were getting paid to do so. So Rationalize all you want, but the Vikings are NOT in trouble of getting punished.

  101. luckyjc says: Mar 5, 2012 8:39 AM

    The saints and any other teams involved or suspected to have been involved should be stripped of at least the first round of the draft for each year the franchise has been involved in this scandle . How can you say the punishment is too harsh? They had no problem taking stars from other teams why not take a few from them?

  102. couch5q says: Mar 14, 2012 12:09 AM

    judging by how many comments there are of people wanting to destroy only the saints for something that every team does, the saints have arrived as winners. Now we hate them, especially if your team is a loser.

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