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Greg Blache disliked and discontinued Gregg Williams’ bounty program

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The man who succeeded Gregg Williams as the Redskins’ defensive coordinator reportedly didn’t like the bounty program that Williams instituted and made it clear to his players that it needed to come to an end.

Greg Blache arrived as defensive line coach in Washington in 2004, the same year Williams arrived as the defensive coordinator and assistant head coach. When Williams left the Redskins after the 2007 season, Blache was promoted to defensive coordinator. And Mike Wise of the Washington Post reports that Blache immediately ended the system of bounties that had been part of the defense during Williams’ four years running things.

According to the report, two players have said this weekend that Blache did not approve of bounties and made that clear to several players.

For his part, Blache, who is now retired from coaching, told the Washington Post, “I don’t want to talk about it.”

Although it’s admirable that Blache discontinued the bounties once he took over the defense, he apparently didn’t do anything about it — like tell head coach Joe Gibbs — while he was an assistant under Williams. Gibbs says he knew nothing about any bounties, and the Post reports that other players back that up.

And that may be how Williams was doing this undetected for so long: Some people who knew about it were eager participants, and those who disapproved said nothing.

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  1. chadmurdigan says: Mar 4, 2012 12:29 PM

    “Some people who knew about it were eager participants, and those who disapproved said nothing.”

    And once again we see how the NFL so perfectly mirrors real life. This comment could be said about so many institutions in 2012 America that it’s practically Biblical in depth!

  2. kmurph1226 says: Mar 4, 2012 12:31 PM

    Ban Williams= Thumbs up
    Fine Williams= Thumbs down

  3. saints25 says: Mar 4, 2012 12:31 PM

    oh well what goes on in “Vegas stays in Vegas”.. Quit digging,The NFL knew about this,an if they werent being sued by retired players this would have never come out…

  4. ascensionparish says: Mar 4, 2012 12:32 PM

    Can we stop treating this like it’s Penn State? kthx.

  5. firstandonlywarning says: Mar 4, 2012 12:36 PM

    And there goes the apologists “everyone does it” excuse.

    #BanWilliamsForLife

  6. jppforprez says: Mar 4, 2012 12:44 PM

    Lets just put this out there before it even begins…
    There is no comparison to what Joe Gibbs did compared to what Joe Paterno did, plain and simple. Do I question if Joe Gibbs really didn’t know… yes but to compare a bounty system on men amongst men who are wearing protective padding and child molestation against young innocent children would be beyond ridiculous.

  7. phillyphever says: Mar 4, 2012 12:44 PM

    ascensionparish says:
    Mar 4, 2012 12:32 PM

    Can we stop treating this like it’s Penn State? kthx.

    Don’t like it, don’t read it. #easyasthat.

  8. santolonius says: Mar 4, 2012 12:46 PM

    i think it is too much to ask to say blache should have gone over his boss’s head about these bounties and ratted him out to the head coach.

  9. fixedgame says: Mar 4, 2012 12:47 PM

    Can see where this is going. By By Williams.
    All others keep the cash and life goes on.

  10. realitypolice says: Mar 4, 2012 12:47 PM

    Sounds to me like the main point of responsibility for these schemes is pretty clear. You can’t possibly identify everyone involved, but we all know who the main guy is, and hopefully he will deservedly receive the brunt of the punishment for this.

    Also- it’s not reasonable to expect Blache to rat out his boss. It’s easy to say from the outside, but these assistants hold on to their jobs by the thinnest of threads as it is, it’s not fair to expect them to take that risk.

    As far as I am concerned, as soon as he felt he was in a position to do something about it, he did.

  11. ericof70 says: Mar 4, 2012 12:51 PM

    Its not an excuse. Its a fact.

  12. kingjoe1 says: Mar 4, 2012 12:51 PM

    This has officially gotten out of control. If bounties come as a surprise than your head has been buried in the sand. There has been plenty of bounty situations for years. Heck Buddy Ryan relished the idea.

    Give the dude a 1 million dollar fine and move on.

  13. nflfan555 says: Mar 4, 2012 12:52 PM

    I think you should suspend the whole Saints organization for one year!

  14. riverhorsey says: Mar 4, 2012 12:54 PM

    It’s just not believable that Gibbs didn’t know about it.

  15. realitypolice says: Mar 4, 2012 12:55 PM

    Let me throw something else out there for debate:

    Jeff Fisher worked with Gregg Williams in Tennessee. The two were supposedly very close and Fisher couldn’t wait to take him to St. Louis with him.

    Are we supposed to believe that Fisher had no idea that apparently Williams liked to take these bounty systems with him wherever he went?

    Really? They’re that close and Fisher had no clue?

    Hmmm…………..

  16. billsfan1 says: Mar 4, 2012 12:55 PM

    so can we finally agree the Joe Gibbs return to the NFL was an EPIC fail…any coach that wouldnt know about this is either lying or so far out of touch…Gibbs had to know or else didnt want to know

    as far as Greg Williams goes, he probably should be in far greater trouble than i imagine the league will come down with …. and that is a shame

  17. thetooloftools says: Mar 4, 2012 12:57 PM

    I Love the bounty system. Just don’t reward hits that are penalized.
    Derod Cherry said on WKNR /Cleveland yesterday that some guys loved bounty money more then their game checks. How cool.
    I have NO problem with this.
    Whatever it takes.
    bounty $ may be better then roids!

  18. oruacat2 says: Mar 4, 2012 1:02 PM

    Interesting that my first comment seems to have been disappeared. I’ll try again.

    “And that may be how Williams was doing this undetected for so long: Some people who knew about it were eager participants, and those who disapproved said nothing.”

    So, everyone is fair game for criticism except for the so-called journalists in the sports media world whose job it is to uncover this stuff?

  19. goawayeverybody says: Mar 4, 2012 1:02 PM

    So now we know that Gregg Williams has been doing this everywhere he’s been in the NFL.

    Here’s what I don’t get: This bounty system is actually counterproductive to winning football games!

    When I was watching the NFC Championship game there was an instance where one of the Saints defenders clearly went after Favre way after he got rid of the ball. The result was a 15 yard penalty which helped the Vikings a lot, because they scored a touchdown on that drive!

    This bounty system actually cost the Saints quite a few penalties if I recall correctly. Therefore, even from the standpoint of trying to be “tough” and “intimidating” it just doesn’t work at all.

  20. phillyphever says: Mar 4, 2012 1:04 PM

    “Let me throw something else out there for debate:

    Jeff Fisher worked with Gregg Williams in Tennessee. The two were supposedly very close and Fisher couldn’t wait to take him to St. Louis with him.

    Are we supposed to believe that Fisher had no idea that apparently Williams liked to take these bounty systems with him wherever he went?”

    I’ll give you something else: Fisher worked with the league last year before taking the Rams job, during the time of the investigation. Think he knew this was going to happen at some point, yet still hired him?

  21. ruffbufffire says: Mar 4, 2012 1:08 PM

    Must be an elderly thang! Those young whipper snappers keep going behind old coaches backs

  22. fromthetoprow says: Mar 4, 2012 1:10 PM

    Joe Gibbs has been a classic enabler while getting a media “pass”. First the stashing of healthy players, looking the other way to steroid and cocaine abuse, and now thisToo bad he can’t be booted frpm the Hall!

  23. DonRSD says: Mar 4, 2012 1:13 PM

    someone investigate the Steelers low knee hit on Carson Palmer in the playoff game.

  24. infectorman says: Mar 4, 2012 1:15 PM

    Don’t forget the bragging rights and “tallied scores” aspect to this that you have to believe was happening on Williams teams with his players. The $ doesn’t matter as much as the competition among the willing Bounty motivated teammates – they probably had a running tally of who had the most “reward” money throughout the year.
    Just another way to smack talk in and amongst your own teammates and jack each other up in the course of a season, game, quarter or even in a defensive series.
    Just watched a video of NFC championship; Saints v Vikings. You could make an argument that without all of the borderline, blatant, late and low hits on Brett, the Vikings may have won that game.
    Favre was releasing early and look more and more flustered/nervous as the game went on; PART of that is due to the NO schemes and great pass rush, but certainly some of it came from the extra-curricular activities by Saints defenders

  25. ascensionparish says: Mar 4, 2012 1:18 PM

    phillyphever says:Mar 4, 2012 12:44 PM

    Don’t like it, don’t read it. #easyasthat.

    ——————————————–

    How will I know that I don’t like it if I don’t read it? #sillygoose.

  26. Soulman45 says: Mar 4, 2012 1:22 PM

    At the end of the season Detroit played the Saints i a game where the Lions came unglued we talk about how they was trugs maybe we was wrong the Refs might be the blame.
    http://www.mlive.com/lions/index.ssf/2012/03/did_new_orleans_saints_players.html

  27. tybrew says: Mar 4, 2012 1:27 PM

    So who got paid for taking Sean peyton out on the sidelines hit….

  28. crack27back says: Mar 4, 2012 1:38 PM

    It is absolutely ridiculous and naive to think that this hasn’t been going on with multiple coaches for many,many years. GW is the current scapegoat, but I think we will find it rampant throughout the league as this progresses. It’s time to learn and move on.

  29. themightywhitey says: Mar 4, 2012 1:39 PM

    the more and more stuff that is coming out about who on the Redskins knew about this …the more Joe Gibbs is looking like a fool or/and a liar ….cause I ain’t buying it , He knows everything that goes on within this team at the time …..you clown Skins fans make him a Saint ( no pun !!!)

  30. granadafan says: Mar 4, 2012 1:43 PM

    Blache sounds like a stand up guy. That Gibbs didn’t know is just ludicrous. Williams should be banned for a year minimum.

  31. stevenfbrackett says: Mar 4, 2012 1:57 PM

    If we give Blache the benefit of the doubt and he really didn’t know about the bounty system before being elevated to coordinator – he still didn’t report it. What kind of trouble could he be in for that?

  32. atrophiedambitions says: Mar 4, 2012 2:00 PM

    Funny how all of these stories are coming out that make it seem like Greg Williams was the only one to ever do this…

  33. bucks12965 says: Mar 4, 2012 2:04 PM

    Hey goawayeverybody, the Saints won that game.

  34. ampats says: Mar 4, 2012 2:18 PM

    As a Patriots fan I am loving all these comments.

    Saints fans just want it to go away. No big deal everyone is doing it.

    Sounds like something familiar that was said by many long time NFL HC’s back in 2007 but then again it was the Patriots, the Evil Empire.

    Get ready and enjoy it Saints fans because your franchise is going to be muddied, trashed and called every name in the book on top and experiencing the worst penalities,fines and suspensions that has ever occured before in NFL history.

    This is going to get much worse next week as every media news outlet will be banging the drum for the next month until Goodell hands out his punishment.

    Its not going away, enjoy the pain !!!!

  35. dirtydrynn27 says: Mar 4, 2012 2:22 PM

    Who was the blockhead that said “Joe Gibbs coming back to the NFL was an epic fail” He did mamnage to get his team in the 2nd round of the playoffs in the 2005 season therefore its not really an epic fail!!!!

  36. nflfollower says: Mar 4, 2012 2:30 PM

    The saints and gregg Williams are about to get HAMMERED by the long arm of the NFL law. Goodell has been out of control with some of his rules and punishments, but I’m actually excited to see what kind of pain he brings for these punks!

  37. lioncrazy says: Mar 4, 2012 2:31 PM

    If the Defense is going to play “Bounty” type games, I say reinstitute crack back blocks, High and low blocking on Dlineman, clipping and blocking from behind. Gotta give the Offense some love and a fighting chance to collect some $$$ to enjoy the game too!

  38. mattw70 says: Mar 4, 2012 2:38 PM

    Brian Mitchell said on his radio show.That Reggie White once put a 500 dollar bounty on his head.

    So I guess we have to kick him out of the Hall of Fame?

  39. johnnyhambone says: Mar 4, 2012 2:44 PM

    jeff fisher and greg williams are disciples of buddy ryan, both were part of ‘Mr. Bounty’ Buddy Ryans coaching staff.

  40. 21stnprime says: Mar 4, 2012 3:02 PM

    Ironic that Greg Williams looks like coach Kilmer from Varsity Blues and both look capable of pulling a stunt like that

  41. firstandonlywarning says: Mar 4, 2012 3:21 PM

    You will never see bounties in the NFL again
    After the Saint lose a 1st round pick
    The Skins lose a 1st round pick
    The Bills lose a 1st round pick
    And Williams is banned for life

    Nope pretty sure the next coach who tries such a thing will be turned in out of fear of the consequences to the club.

  42. johnnyhambone says: Mar 4, 2012 3:23 PM

    mattw70 says:
    Mar 4, 2012 2:38 PM

    Brian Mitchell said on his radio show.That Reggie White once put a 500 dollar bounty on his head

    ————————————————-

    probably was the ‘bodybag game’ from 1990 between eagles and redskins. guess who the coach of the eagles was buddy ryan, jeff fisher was on his staff

  43. randolph32 says: Mar 4, 2012 3:39 PM

    Micheal David Smith – Since it’s obvious you haven’t been int he business world for a long time, you don’t crap where you eat, ie, you’re not going to report your boss for something he wants to do.

  44. vesselsk says: Mar 4, 2012 3:41 PM

    Well at least we now know why Gregg Williams called so many blitzes this year…

  45. jagerbmb says: Mar 4, 2012 3:44 PM

    This could potentially impact every team that Gregg Williams coached during the salary cap era. In addition to the pay to injure implications, do not forget about the salary cap ramifications. The NFL took draft picks away from the 49ers even though Carmen Policy no longer worked there for circumventing the salary cap.

  46. shadowgm1 says: Mar 4, 2012 3:46 PM

    So, anything happen in the league over the past couple of days that adversely affected the fans of the purple whiners and the horned helmet wearing creator of this great second hand, day old news site? Too bad we can’t add our own news headlines, it would sure improve it when tidbits like this are blown out of proportion, exasperatingly overcovered and incessantly whined about daily. It makes me happy to know that this site’s “days in the sun” are on borrowed time until the next big thing comes along and topples it’s popularity. As for this “bounty” thing, get over it and move on. Perhaps a suggestion to modify the name from Pro Football Talk to Pro Football Petulants.

  47. realitypolice says: Mar 4, 2012 4:15 PM

    stevenfbrackett says:
    Mar 4, 2012 1:57 PM
    If we give Blache the benefit of the doubt and he really didn’t know about the bounty system before being elevated to coordinator – he still didn’t report it. What kind of trouble could he be in for that?
    =====================

    Um….what?

    The article says that he did know about it before being elevated and immediately brought it to a halt when he became coordinator.

  48. zn0rseman says: Mar 4, 2012 5:19 PM

    So the Saints won a Super Bowl as a direct result of these bounty programs. (See Brett Favre’s busted up ribs and ankle.)

    Any Viking fans out there have an opinion on how many draft picks a Lombardi Trophy is worth?

  49. blackqbwhiterb says: Mar 4, 2012 5:28 PM

    They shouldn’t punish the Saints or the Redskins because its all different people there now than at the time it ALLEGEDLY happened (heheheh)….sorry, Gregg, you’re out to sea all alone on this one. Thanks for taking the hit, the check is in the mail!

  50. tatum064 says: Mar 4, 2012 5:29 PM

    its unbelievable that they still didnt win crap even with bounties.

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